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ngnichols
05-23-2015, 07:25 PM
Answered an ad for a few pallets of unlisted wax boxes and sets. Had the guy send me a listing of what he had available for purchase to see if it was even worth my time to look at. I saw he had 1986-87 Fleer listed under basketball so my antennas lit up. I drove out to go check it out and ended up getting the following for $1K:

2x 1986-87 Fleer Basketball Sets (Minus Jordan RC) 131/132 cards

1987-88 Fleer Basketball - Michael Jordan

1988-89 Fleer Basketball - Michael Jordan

1980-81 Topps Basketball - Larry Bird/Julius Erving/Magic Johnson RC

1996-97 Topps Chrome Basketball Complete Set w/Kobe RC

1986-87 Fleer Basketball - Michael Jordan (Was graded by "SCA Grading" as a 10. Obviously not a 10, but at least an 8.5 and maybe a 9.0) - Busted it out of the holder successfully and that's going to BGS on Tuesday for 2-Day grading.

I think I did rather well and that was just the basketball I got.

I also got a binder full of Cal Ripken Jr. cards which included his Topps Traded RC, a sealed wax box of 1989 Score Football, sealed wax box of 1991 Topps Stadium Club Football (Pulled one Favre RC), and a box of 1998 Upper Deck Black Diamond Football (Pulled a Triple-Diamond Randy Moss RC #628/1000 and a Double-Diamond Thurman Thomas #2844/3000)

Jedi1823
05-23-2015, 07:30 PM
All that for a grand? Holy crap that is a steal beyond belief.

IronMonkey415
05-23-2015, 07:31 PM
Could be the greatest Craigslist purchase ever on this board.

ngnichols
05-23-2015, 07:41 PM
Given the other Jordan RC's I've purchased raw within the past month or so, I have a good feel for what to pay raw (I considered this one raw since that's not a legit company). I examined it under magnification like anyone should if buying raw and everything was A-OK. The last two raw I've bought for $425 and $400 ended up both being 8.5's

Already got buyers lined up for the Fleer Sets and the Ripken RC/Cards.

At a minimum I'll end up doubling my money and more likely well beyond that. Not bad for a 120 mile round trip. LOL!

hairyangryfella
05-23-2015, 10:55 PM
I would never buy a graded MJ that wasn't by SGC, PSA or BGS. Too big a chance the lesser company has graded a fake. Fingers crossed for you though.

ninjacookies
05-23-2015, 11:03 PM
CSA? My gut is on a fake. But seems like you got a lot of other cards and some good value. But usually if it's too good to be true, it is. Very few people would undersell themselves on items in that kind of condition, especially ones as iconic as that.

ngnichols
05-23-2015, 11:18 PM
CSA? My gut is on a fake. But seems like you got a lot of other cards and some good value. But usually if it's too good to be true, it is. Very few people would undersell themselves on items in that kind of condition, especially ones as iconic as that.

Checked out 100% in authentication steps I've taken on the other 3 I've bought 100% raw within the past 45 days.

Follow this guide and you'll be just fine: 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan Counterfeit Guide | BBC Emporium (http://bbcemporium.com/1986-fleer-micheal-jordan-counterfeit-guide/)

There is always risk involved in buying a Jordan RC raw, but that mitigates your risk down to an extremely small amount. If you don't take any risks, you'll never get rewarded. However, you need to make sure you buy it at a price that makes sense. I would never pay over $450 for one that is 100% raw and/or graded by a no-name company like the one I bought today was.

I'll post up my results once I submit for 2-Day at BGS on Tuesday.

ngnichols
05-23-2015, 11:22 PM
I would never buy a graded MJ that wasn't by SGC, PSA or BGS. Too big a chance the lesser company has graded a fake. Fingers crossed for you though.

You'll also never have one that you didn't have to pay a ridiculous price for either by doing that. Again, if you can't get it for a reasonable price ($450 or under) then you just pass on it and move on to try and find another one. There are plenty of them out there to be had and I'm proof of that.

Wings
05-23-2015, 11:30 PM
Why would someone send and unaltered mint Jordan to CSA

tristan20
05-23-2015, 11:32 PM
Why would someone send and unaltered mint Jordan to CSA

Guaranteed :)!

nameanking
05-23-2015, 11:32 PM
Insane....I searched on Craigslist for an 84 star jordan. Found one graded a 10 Bccg or better and he had it listed for $900. I wrote him telling him I'd buy it. I kept writing him until he responded and finally he did.

I thought it's bccg so it's gotta be legit. But I did a Google search 1st. Glad I did. Card was a fake in a fake holder. Also Jordan was bald. Thank god it took that fool forever to respond so I had the sense of mind to Google to see if it was fake.

SportsItUpCards
05-23-2015, 11:38 PM
I'll call the Jordan fake unfortunately. That's what my experience in this hobby tells me.

ngnichols
05-23-2015, 11:39 PM
Insane....I searched on Craigslist for an 84 star jordan. Found one graded a 10 Bccg or better and he had it listed for $900. I wrote him telling him I'd buy it. I kept writing him until he responded and finally he did.

I thought it's bccg so it's gotta be legit. But I did a Google search 1st. Glad I did. Card was a fake in a fake holder. Also Jordan was bald. Thank god it took that fool forever to respond so I had the sense of mind to Google to see if it was fake.

LOL.

I already had seen that card and corresponded with the guy. It is 100% fake.

It sure does help to have Hi-Res pics of my 100% legit card to go off of.

Pretty much everything you see in regards to that card it is either going to be an "after-print" or an outright fake. That's why the only picture he has is of the front of the card. The back of it is where you can determine whether it is 100% legit or not.

There were only like 15,000 of the Chicago Bulls team sets printed legitimately so they tend to go for big money if they are even in modest condition.

ngnichols
05-23-2015, 11:40 PM
I'll call the Jordan fake unfortunately. That's what my experience in this hobby tells me.

LOL. Want to bet me?

Last 3 I've bought have been 100% legit.

Go check my eBay account for my sold items if you need proof.

SportsItUpCards
05-24-2015, 12:57 AM
LOL. Want to bet me?

Last 3 I've bought have been 100% legit.

Go check my eBay account for my sold items if you need proof.

I don't need anything....

It all seems set up. A person who is not aware or what they have has a complete set of fleet and chrome, and knew to grade the Jordan with a bogus grading company?

Unless you have an authentic Jordan RC around to prove me wrong... :D

ngnichols
05-24-2015, 01:03 AM
I don't need anything....

It all seems set up. A person who is not aware or what they have has a complete set of fleet and chrome, and knew to grade the Jordan with a bogus grading company?

Unless you have an authentic Jordan RC around to prove me wrong... :D

Unfortunately I sold all of my BGS graded Jordan RC's within the past 3 weeks. Again, check my eBay sold items and you'll have all the proof you desire.

After looking at the pics I posted, I can understand the confusion because this forum drastically reduces the resolution of the cards down to about 1/2 of what I uploaded them at.

You obviously aren't too sure about your proclamation or you'd nut up and make a wager.

Again, I'll have it back by Thursday afternoon and I'll post my results to shut you goons up and bust the myth you can't buy raw or from a off-branded grading company.

tacoma34
05-24-2015, 01:17 AM
Unfortunately I sold all of my BGS graded Jordan RC's within the past 3 weeks. Again, check my eBay sold items and you'll have all the proof you desire.

After looking at the pics I posted, I can understand the confusion because this forum drastically reduces the resolution of the cards down to about 1/2 of what I uploaded them at.

You obviously aren't too sure about your proclamation or you'd nut up and make a wager.

Again, I'll have it back by Thursday afternoon and I'll post my results to shut you goons up and bust the myth you can't buy raw or from a off-branded grading company.

Betting/wagers are against the rules of the forum. Reported. May Mod have mercy on your soul.

rcearley
05-24-2015, 01:18 AM
Unfortunately I sold all of my BGS graded Jordan RC's within the past 3 weeks. Again, check my eBay sold items and you'll have all the proof you desire.

After looking at the pics I posted, I can understand the confusion because this forum drastically reduces the resolution of the cards down to about 1/2 of what I uploaded them at.

You obviously aren't too sure about your proclamation or you'd nut up and make a wager.

Again, I'll have it back by Thursday afternoon and I'll post my results to shut you goons up and bust the myth you can't buy raw or from a off-branded grading company.

I would be interested to know if it comes back with a grade, and not altered or trimmed. Also, I am interested in the Kobe chrome.

ngnichols
05-24-2015, 01:24 AM
Betting/wagers are against the rules of the forum. Reported. May God have mercy on your soul.

LOL. Ok.

I would be interested to know if it comes back with a grade, and not altered or trimmed. Also, I am interested in the Kobe chrome.

Again, measured it against a common that was in the sets I bought and it is spot on.

Obviously there are quite a few tools on this board who just don't know what they are doing in regards to higher-end cards and buying them raw.

Anybody can go buy a graded Jordan RC. It takes some nuts and education to go buy one raw and make a substantial profit.

I've already had one person PM me about the Kobe Chrome so hit me up. It will be submitted with the Jordan RC on Tuesday at BGS and I'll have it back Thursday afternoon.

UltimateDeron
05-24-2015, 04:39 AM
I think the Jordan is real and it looks like a PSA 9 from your pics. Hard to though as I wasn't able to blow the image up to look at the edges. Overall it looks solid. Great steal!

Panthersfans
05-24-2015, 06:40 AM
Great steal man. Congrats.

Rareairx23
05-24-2015, 08:11 AM
Wow what an awesome day for you!

Peties Army
05-24-2015, 08:22 AM
CSA? My gut is on a fake. But seems like you got a lot of other cards and some good value. But usually if it's too good to be true, it is. Very few people would undersell themselves on items in that kind of condition, especially ones as iconic as that.

Geez I bet you are a lot of fun at parties.

Deadshot
05-24-2015, 08:31 AM
Great pickup. There is nothing wrong with taking a calculated risk if you know what you're doing. Seems like a pretty safe purchase and flipping it gives you money to buy some stuff you've probably been watching.

TarjetasBéisbol
05-24-2015, 08:34 AM
Very nice find OP and keep us posted on what grade it gets.

Tones
05-24-2015, 08:38 AM
awesome stuff :D

tke1600
05-24-2015, 09:05 AM
If the Jordan Rc was seen in person it is most likely real but probably has a high chance of being trimmed or altered in some way.

wheeler281
05-24-2015, 09:19 AM
Awesome find man. CSA was pretty reputable before the others took off. The Rickey Henderson CSA 10's do pretty good. Just an amazing steal

JMarchand1981
05-24-2015, 10:21 AM
Damn. I search on craigslist all the time. I only see ads for kisses in exchange for roses...(this is a time when I wish D2R would appear in the basketball boards).

htn315
05-24-2015, 10:32 AM
This is an awesome find. Let me know what you want for the kobe set if it Kobe comes back a 9.

ngnichols
05-24-2015, 10:43 AM
This is an awesome find. Let me know what you want for the kobe set if it Kobe comes back a 9.

PM me and get in line. You're the 3rd person to inquire about it.

SPCRD
06-08-2015, 12:41 PM
What did the Jordan come back as?

jr24ai3
06-08-2015, 12:56 PM
What did the Jordan come back as?


Based on his eBay listings, it looks like it was graded Authentic Altered.

Kosmo Kards
06-08-2015, 01:01 PM
Love the Kobe Chrome. Seems perfectly centered and no Green Hulk Kobe on that one.

Dobber2330
06-08-2015, 01:05 PM
Based on his eBay listings, it looks like it was graded Authentic Altered.

And it looks like he sold it for $500 - all in all not too bad given what he paid

SleeperCards
06-08-2015, 01:10 PM
People pay for cards in Authentic Altered slabs??? I would think having a card known to be altered would make it completely undesirable. Or do people purchase these and then sell them raw or grade them through seedier companies? Just trying to figure out why a doctored card would still sell.

LeonfromNC
06-08-2015, 01:30 PM
So many negative Nancys on this board...

Smh smh smh

NewVintageNY
06-08-2015, 03:19 PM
Pretty much if a Jordan is not slabbed by PSA, BGS, or SGC everyone says it's fake. If you have had luck buying raw Jordan rookies and grading them I am sure you will have the same result with this one. Nice purchase. People don't realize in the early 00's there were a lot of grading companies and the owner would grade a legit Jordan rookie and some other high end rookies to use a promotion.

Most of the guys that write off the Jordan rookie as fake simply due to the fact that it's in a slab other than the big 3 are idiots. How could you people possibly tell if that Jordan is real? It's not even a close up scan.

I have the same experience with a Muhammad Ali auto. I bought a GAI authenticated Ali auto from a friend and new 100% it was real. I posted it on here and everyone proclaimed it was fake because it was slabbed by GAI. 3 months later I posted the same card in a PSA slab after I got it back and crickets.

Make sure you do the same to shut these trolls up.

rcearley
06-08-2015, 03:33 PM
I would be interested to know if it comes back with a grade, and not altered or trimmed. Also, I am interested in the Kobe chrome.



Again, measured it against a common that was in the sets I bought and it is spot on.

Obviously there are quite a few tools on this board who just don't know what they are doing in regards to higher-end cards and buying them raw.

Anybody can go buy a graded Jordan RC. It takes some nuts and education to go buy one raw and make a substantial profit.

I've already had one person PM me about the Kobe Chrome so hit me up. It will be submitted with the Jordan RC on Tuesday at BGS and I'll have it back Thursday afternoon.

What did the Jordan come back as?

Based on his eBay listings, it looks like it was graded Authentic Altered.

Would like to hear from the OP, see quote above......:rolleyes:

NickM
06-08-2015, 03:37 PM
Pretty much if a Jordan is not slabbed by PSA, BGS, or SGC everyone says it's fake. If you have had luck buying raw Jordan rookies and grading them I am sure you will have the same result with this one. Nice purchase. People don't realize in the early 00's there were a lot of grading companies and the owner would grade a legit Jordan rookie and some other high end rookies to use a promotion.

Most of the guys that write off the Jordan rookie as fake simply due to the fact that it's in a slab other than the big 3 are idiots. How could you people possibly tell if that Jordan is real? It's not even a close up scan.

I have the same experience with a Muhammad Ali auto. I bought a GAI authenticated Ali auto from a friend and new 100% it was real. I posted it on here and everyone proclaimed it was fake because it was slabbed by GAI. 3 months later I posted the same card in a PSA slab after I got it back and crickets.

Make sure you do the same to shut these trolls up.

GAI is not CSA. Early GAI was pretty good. They were formed by experienced graders and had every intention of becoming the most respected grading company. Over time, things went downhill, eventually really badly. I'll buy early slab GAI cards/packs/autos. I won't touch white label, however, unless it's something I can see in person and already have deep knowledge of.

Most of us on this thread, myself included, were confident that a legitimate high-grade authentic and unaltered Jordan rookie would not be in the crap CSA slab. The best you could hope for is that it's overgraded. The more likely result is altered. With certain slabs (e.g., GEM and FGA), you expect counterfeit.

It was altered, so I'm really not sure what you're getting so huffy about.

jr24ai3
06-08-2015, 03:44 PM
Would like to hear from the OP, see quote above......:rolleyes:

He said he sent it out on 5/21 for 2 day grading. This card was graded on 5/28/2015. Fits the timeline. Also front and back centering looks right. He knew it was real and got $500 for it when a lot of people said it was fake. Good for him.

1986 87 Fleer Basketball Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls 57 BGS Authentic | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-87-Fleer-Basketball-Michael-Jordan-Chicago-Bulls-57-BGS-AUTHENTIC-/301648267477?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item463ba348d5&nma=true&si=1nQ4wPzTGkL7bO5v%252FS5HRngRT3k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)

NickM
06-08-2015, 03:51 PM
He said he sent it out on 5/21 for 2 day grading. This card was graded on 5/28/2015. Fits the timeline. Also front and back centering looks right. He knew it was real and got $500 for it when a lot of people said it was fake. Good for him.

1986 87 Fleer Basketball Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls 57 BGS Authentic | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-87-Fleer-Basketball-Michael-Jordan-Chicago-Bulls-57-BGS-AUTHENTIC-/301648267477?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item463ba348d5&nma=true&si=1nQ4wPzTGkL7bO5v%252FS5HRngRT3k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)

He also said it was at least an 8.5, maybe a 9.0.

XARZY
06-08-2015, 04:03 PM
He also said it was at least an 8.5, maybe a 9.0.

Had it not been colored in it mightve been that assuming thats what the issue is since he says it measured out.

rcearley
06-08-2015, 04:04 PM
He said he sent it out on 5/21 for 2 day grading. This card was graded on 5/28/2015. Fits the timeline. Also front and back centering looks right. He knew it was real and got $500 for it when a lot of people said it was fake. Good for him.

1986 87 Fleer Basketball Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls 57 BGS Authentic | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-87-Fleer-Basketball-Michael-Jordan-Chicago-Bulls-57-BGS-AUTHENTIC-/301648267477?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item463ba348d5&nma=true&si=1nQ4wPzTGkL7bO5v%252FS5HRngRT3k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)

The question wasn't whether it was fake or real, he said it was not altered....:coffee:

ngnichols
06-08-2015, 06:02 PM
The card did unfortunately come back trimmed. It was EXTREMELY close to being ok, but the guys at BGS said it was just too much for them to let it go through.

Again, I matched it up to a common and measured with a ruler, but their tools are obviously much more precise than just by card matching and a ruler.

Either way, I ended up selling it for more than what I offered to pay for it in the beginning ($400) so with the $25 I spent on grading fees for the 2-Day, a $75 profit for a card that ended up being altered ain't so bad.

Obviously it would have been nice to have had a BGS 9.0 which it would have been without the trimming, but it is what it is. The other three I've bought raw before this turned out pretty well for me (BGS 6.0 and 2x BGS 8.5's).

I've also already sold both sets for $1,100, one of the Bird/Magic RC's for $75 (had a print defect on Magic's eyeball), and one of the 2nd year Jordan's (not gradeable due to centering) for $50.

Still got plenty of stuff from this lot to go and getting some of it back from BGS tomorrow.

I couldn't give two craps about the retards on here who talked a bunch of #@#@#@#@. They are just mad because they've didn't get what I got, period. Not sweating it as I'm enjoying the dead presidents in my pocket that are going to buy more stuff to make even more money.

mikecala98
06-08-2015, 06:07 PM
1984 85 Star Basketball Michael Jordan 101 Rookie BGS XRC TRC | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Star-Basketball-Michael-Jordan-101-Rookie-BGS-XRC-TRC-/301596116521?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4638878629)


Discuss.

ngnichols
06-08-2015, 06:09 PM
1984 85 Star Basketball Michael Jordan 101 Rookie BGS XRC TRC | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Star-Basketball-Michael-Jordan-101-Rookie-BGS-XRC-TRC-/301596116521?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4638878629)


Discuss.

Card had some surface issues and I didn't want to ruin an awesome card.

Buyer was 100% satisfied with the purchase so that's all that matters.

Hate on. I don't give a #@#@#@#@. Someone got a great card for a fantastic deal. Don't be butt-hurt cause you didn't have the coin or the nuts to buy it.

chitownbears22
06-08-2015, 06:18 PM
Good work. If the Jordan came back a BGS 10 with all 10 subs members on here would have complained that you ripped the guy off and that you should give him money back. You did your research and made some money. That was the intention of the purchase, seems like you did good.

ngnichols
06-08-2015, 06:20 PM
Good work. If the Jordan came back a BGS 10 with all 10 subs members on here would have complained that you ripped the guy off and that you should give him money back. You did your research and made some money. That was the intention of the purchase, seems like you did good.

Thanks for the props.

I'm glad at least a few people on here are decent.

He had other stuff I REALLY wanted to snag - 1986-87 Fleer Wax pack & 100% Factory Sealed 1987-88 Fleer Basketball Wax Box, but he was wanting too much for them and I knew what I got was plenty for me.

Beavers98
06-08-2015, 06:42 PM
Still looks like a great overall purchase to me..Congrats!!

Even if you knew it was altered, still a great overall purchase with all you got for 1K



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I only pull for
06-08-2015, 06:54 PM
What kind of cards are you picking up at BGS tomorrow, Nate?

jr24ai3
06-08-2015, 06:59 PM
1984 85 Star Basketball Michael Jordan 101 Rookie BGS XRC TRC | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Star-Basketball-Michael-Jordan-101-Rookie-BGS-XRC-TRC-/301596116521?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4638878629)


Discuss.

Not really sure what there is to discuss. He had it slabbed authentic, posted scans that clearly showed the wear on the card. I don't see anything wrong.

bullard123
06-08-2015, 06:59 PM
Cool. Not bad at all. I paid $400 for a Jordan Rc and a rookie fleer sticker. I think mine is recolored. If I can get $500 for mine I will sell it as well

mikecala98
06-08-2015, 07:01 PM
Not really sure what there is to discuss. He had it slabbed authentic, posted scans that clearly showed the wear on the card. I don't see anything wrong.

It caused a ruckus on Beckett boards. I was being sarcastic about it.

ngnichols
06-08-2015, 07:02 PM
What kind of cards are you picking up at BGS tomorrow, Nate?


1984 Topps - Dan Marino RC
1986 Topps - Jerry Rice RC
1986 Topps - Steve Young RC
1998 Topps Chrome - Peyton Manning RC

1980-81 Topps - Bird/Erving/Magic RC
1987-88 Fleer - Michael Jordan
1988-89 Fleer - Michael Jordan
1996 SPX - Michael Jordan - Gold Parallel
1997-98 Topps - Michael Jordan - Rock Stars - Refractor

1982 Topps Traded - Cal Ripken Jr. RC

I only pull for
06-08-2015, 07:10 PM
1984 Topps - Dan Marino RC
1986 Topps - Jerry Rice RC
1986 Topps - Steve Young RC
1998 Topps Chrome - Peyton Manning RC

1980-81 Topps - Bird/Erving/Magic RC
1987-88 Fleer - Michael Jordan
1988-89 Fleer - Michael Jordan
1996 SPX - Michael Jordan - Gold Parallel
1997-98 Topps - Michael Jordan - Rock Stars - Refractor

1982 Topps Traded - Cal Ripken Jr. RC

Nice, post scans on here or Beckett if you get time. I might even be a buyer on a few. :D
Good luck on the grades.

ngnichols
06-08-2015, 07:17 PM
Nice, post scans on here or Beckett if you get time. I might even be a buyer on a few. :D
Good luck on the grades.

Thanks.

I'll definitely post up what they hit at.

It may be later in the evening as I'm going to try and pick up some more stuff. Hoping to find a Gallo RC or two in my buddy's storage along with some Andrew Luck RC's.

I may have some more Jordan stuff by the weekend as I grabbed all that Ripken stuff for a guy who had bought some Ripken from me before and he apparently has some decent Jordan stuff he's willing to trade.

Forgot to add I also have a 2014 Topps Chrome - Odell Beckham Jr. - Purple Refractor in that bunch coming back to me tomorrow as well.

mc1
06-08-2015, 07:25 PM
Not really sure what there is to discuss. He had it slabbed authentic, posted scans that clearly showed the wear on the card. I don't see anything wrong.

OP posted that card was in a BGS 3.5 and he cracked it out to have it slabbed authentic. Some people thought it was a shady move, others didnt see a problem with it. Any way you look at that card, it looks beat up and best grade it would get is a 4 on a good day. Buyer cant complain if he sends it in to get graded and doesnt get an 8-9.:)!

ngnichols
06-08-2015, 07:36 PM
OP posted that card was in a BGS 3.5 and he cracked it out to have it slabbed authentic. Some people thought it was a shady move, others didnt see a problem with it. Any way you look at that card, it looks beat up and best grade it would get is a 4 on a good day. Buyer cant complain if he sends it in to get graded and doesnt get an 8-9.:)!

Let's get a few things straight here:

I didn't crack anything out. I saw what the subs were and decided that I didn't want to detract from an awesome card with a grade like that given that other than the surface grade being low all the other subs were like 7's. I asked the guys there at BGS what they thought I should do and they felt it would command more money just as BGS Authentic and I took their advice and had them re-slab it there while I was on property.

I stated clearly in the posting that it had condition issues and posted LARGE and HIGH-QUALITY pictures clearly highlighting the condition of the card.

I had several people contact me about the card both locally and on eBay and all of them asked why I slabbed as Authentic instead of with a grade. Every person who asked was disclosed as to the situation I described above.

The guy who bought it had no problems with that and paid what he and I felt was a reasonable price for the card given it's condition. He's happy and I'm happy. Again, that's all that really matters at the end of the day.

mc1
06-08-2015, 07:47 PM
Let's get a few things straight here:

I didn't crack anything out. I saw what the subs were and decided that I didn't want to detract from an awesome card with a grade like that given that other than the surface grade being low all the other subs were like 7's. I asked the guys there at BGS what they thought I should do and they felt it would command more money just as BGS Authentic and I took their advice and had them re-slab it there while I was on property.

I stated clearly in the posting that it had condition issues and posted LARGE and HIGH-QUALITY pictures clearly highlighting the condition of the card.

I had several people contact me about the card both locally and on eBay and all of them asked why I slabbed as Authentic instead of with a grade. Every person who asked was disclosed as to the situation I described above.

The guy who bought it had no problems with that and paid what he and I felt was a reasonable price for the card given it's condition. He's happy and I'm happy. Again, that's all that really matters at the end of the day.

No need to be defensive, I didnt ask for an explanation. Just going off of this post.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/878776-jordan-star-xrc-team-bag-what-do.html#post9309189

ngnichols
06-08-2015, 07:52 PM
No need to be defensive, I didnt ask for an explanation. Just going off of this post.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/878776-jordan-star-xrc-team-bag-what-do.html#post9309189

I'm just clearing up the air since people here obviously like run their mouths without knowing what all of the facts are.

You worry about your stuff and I'll worry about mine.

Bostonsports1
06-08-2015, 08:43 PM
It caused a ruckus on Beckett boards. I was being sarcastic about it.

Beckett boards are trashed compared to here. I find the majority uptight and annoying. Glad I moved over to BO.

Nice haul OP, always great to get a nice score like this.

ngnichols
06-08-2015, 09:19 PM
Beckett boards are trashed compared to here. I find the majority uptight and annoying. Glad I moved over to BO.

Nice haul OP, always great to get a nice score like this.

Any place where you have to pay just to trade a card is ridiculous.

That's why I pretty much got off of there as people wanted to trade cards with me that I had listed and I couldn't do anything because I wasn't a paid member on Beckett.

Thanks for the props as well. Again, nice to see there are a few decent people on here who can appreciate a nice buy by someone other than themselves and aren't jealous jerks.

hairyangryfella
06-09-2015, 03:21 AM
I couldn't give two craps about the retards on here who talked a bunch of #@#@#@#@. They are just mad because they've didn't get what I got, period. Not sweating it as I'm enjoying the dead presidents in my pocket that are going to buy more stuff to make even more money.

Let me get this straight.
People were unsure about the card because they know the grading company is not as professional/careful as other grading companies, were proven right by the fact that it was a trimmed card, and are just 'jealous haterzz' for having stated a concern that ultimately was accurate?
Gotcha :)!

I only pull for
06-09-2015, 06:23 AM
Let me get this straight.
People were unsure about the card because they know the grading company is not as professional/careful as other grading companies, were proven right by the fact that it was a trimmed card, and are just 'jealous haterzz' for having stated a concern that ultimately was accurate?
Gotcha :)!

Yeah because PSA grades multi-million dollar trimmed cards as Nm-Mt..
and slab everything Psa-gems sends in with a PSA 10 knowing good and well they are trimmed....
Puhleeease.


Let's not forget the SGC certified fake auto that was just pulled from ebay.