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shindo03
05-30-2015, 04:52 PM
In this day and age, being in this hobby is like being a detective. Unless you saw it pulled on video or you pulled the card yourself, you really have to do detective work to make sure your card is authentic.

We all know that there are scumbags out there faking relics and autographs. I mean in some cases rumors start that even the licensed autographs of our favorite sports stars were signed by their agents. Then you have all the backdoored items from Topps and Upperdeck, the 90's inserts that have been circulating through ebay from Taiwan, and of course the infamous 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan RC fakes. Here are some examples of what I am talking about:

Buyer Beware: Fake “Proof” Superfractors on eBay » Kinem's Sport Cards (http://www.kinemscards.com/buyer-beware-fake-proof-superfractors-on-ebay/)

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/877406-woot-scored-one.htmls

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/875480-watch-out-fake-jersey-piece-select-lavine.html

I know it's really nothing new, but I wanted to share. Of course PSA or BGS helps us filter out some of the obvious fakes, but sometimes they get fooled as well. I know that PSA and BGS do not authenticate relics in cards because there is really no way to do it. Recently I learned that BGS does not authenticate autographs and only grades them (which is weird imo), but PSA does not grade the autographs and only authenticates them (which is the way it should be imo).

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/874287-new-low-bgs.html

With all this detective work you have to do, I decided to just go with cards that don't have relics or autos, so basically rookie cards. BTW where the heck is the QVC picture match system for relics that Panini was promising everyone? Anyway...I'm pretty sure PSA and BGS can at least differentiate a real 86 Fleer RC and a fake one, but as technology moves forward, do you guys think that at one point it will just be virtually impossible to tell?

bigaust001
05-30-2015, 06:42 PM
That set has been notorious for that... (http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/819277-i-expect-see-card-again.html) But in other news, I agree. There is quite a bit of corruption in our hobby.

shindo03
05-31-2015, 03:39 AM
^ that there is.. do you think there will ever be technology so good that we can't tell fakes from reals at all.

kairi-2008
05-31-2015, 04:06 AM
^ that there is.. do you think there will ever be technology so good that we can't tell fakes from reals at all.

I think that Panini will lift its game and add technology to stay ahead of the fakes.
Photos of every patch prior to release isn't far away.

bigaust001
05-31-2015, 07:37 AM
I think that Panini will lift its game and add technology to stay ahead of the fakes.
Photos of every patch prior to release isn't far away.

This has been discussed for as long as I have been in the hobby, and yet only one major company (Leaf) has actually done it.