Possible fake MJ Auto with Probstein

[SPauthentic84]

Just wanted to give a heads up.

This MJ may or not be fake, however when asked for a pic of the back (or even just for conformation the hologram was legit on the back), Probstein did not return my message.

Here is the listing
2009 Upper Deck Goodwin Champions Michael Jordan Auto Chicago Bulls | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Upper-Deck-Goodwin-Champions-Michael-Jordan-AUTO-Chicago-Bulls-/381288996576?ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123)

And here is why I think there is potential it is fake. I wish I still had the photo of the card I had. It is the same card, not sure if the exact one though
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/basketball/674661-you-know-what-they-say-about-too-good-true.html

[sixtyfeet]

Hard to tell based on that scan but thanks for posting. It's a huge annoyance for me when sellers do not post scans of the back of a moderate to high priced card. If I'm buying a card for more than $100 I'd like to know if there is chipping, potential creases or anything else that would be on the back of a card that would effect the overall condition before I bid it and it gets pretty tiresome to continually be asking for scans of the back by messaging. Just take the extra two minutes and scan the back.

[SPauthentic84]

Hard to tell based on that scan but thanks for posting. It's a huge annoyance for me when sellers do not post scans of the back of a moderate to high priced card. If I'm buying a card for more than $100 I'd like to know if there is chipping, potential creases or anything else that would be on the back of a card that would effect the overall condition before I bid it and it gets pretty tiresome to continually be asking for scans of the back by messaging. Just take the extra two minutes and scan the back.
I agree with you. I never would have started the thread if they messaged back.

[funkgut]

I always get confused with this.....is the card itself fake? I ask because clearly it states autograph series so one would assume that the card was autographed at one time. I am trying to educate myself so that I don't get ripped in the future.

[Jasondr91]

I always get confused with this.....is the card itself fake? I ask because clearly it states autograph series so one would assume that the card was autographed at one time. I am trying to educate myself so that I don't get ripped in the future.

It seems people are taking serious advantage of printing and copying technologies. What's happening is, someone photocopies a legit auto'ed card front and back, then reproducing the card themselves. They can be very tough to spot online, and sometimes in person.

[funkgut]

It seems people are taking serious advantage of printing and copying technologies. What's happening is, someone photocopies a legit auto'ed card front and back, then reproducing the card themselves. They can be very tough to spot online, and sometimes in person.

Thanks Jason, it seems the average collector doesn't stand a chance with that kind of technology........:eek: