Serious Question: If I wrote a book on prospecting would there be any interest? [Archive]

dasiegel

07-23-2015, 10:16 AM

jlzinck

07-23-2015, 10:17 AM

Subscribed!!

TarjetasBéisbol

07-23-2015, 10:21 AM

I am sure many prospectors wouldn't want "secrets" released, just look at how an OP can get slammed by posting a "who should I buy" thread.

HadWayTooMuch

07-23-2015, 10:21 AM

I was paying attention to the thread now moved to the NSCC section about the free prospect seminar and as much as the guy Prospect Trader has gotten ripped about not having credentials or having an amateur take on it, I think it's cool.

a) It's free- if he gives the worst seminar ever you lost nothing and likely gained something

b) There is a stigma about prospecting- that it's bad for the hobby... it can actually be one of the most enjoyable and fun parts of the hobby and furthermore rarely affect those who complain about ti and mostly collect vets and HOFers. So it gets information out about how it can work.

c) I can't say I haven't thought about doing the same thing... he stole my idea:p Last year when I was in Cleveland I was like man I should give a 30 min talk on prospecting.

ANYWAY.

The question is... don't worry about my credentials, assume I have none! Don't worry about me having some scheme to make money, anything I would put out would be free or really cheap and I promise in advance if I do anything not to spam the crap out of it here.

But, if I either made a short book or some type of fun brief read on prospecting, would anyone be interested?

My main goals would be:

1. To give the same info out that i give so many people who pm me for advice in one place

2. To explain prospecting at it's core and why it can be fun and a good investment of money at the same time

3. I've never published anything and I'd be interested in learning the process.

So be honest. I don't want to waste my time as if anyone had interest on the subject it would be people on a sportscard forum. If you wouldn't look at it, that's cool, let me know. If you think you'd read about it but not in book form, let me know. If you think it's be awesome, let me know. If you think it's bad to give out hints and tips let me know. Really anything I'd be interested in hearing.

Thanks

You'll get 50 people committing to buying the book then when it comes out, one will buy it.

I posted I was thinking of opening an LCS in my area. 15-20 people messaged me how great that would be and how they would be customers. Only 3 ever walked in the door, so even if my LCS sucked wind, the other 12-17 wouldn't know it as they never stopped in.

If you want to do it, do it. But don't look for commitments here.

Cubsfanp

07-23-2015, 10:26 AM

Looks like one already exists :eatit:

ronaldo943

07-23-2015, 10:40 AM

I'll read a book on anything I believe can be a good investment. Prospecting wouldn't be one. Prospecting should be seen as something for fun, there are so much better "investments" that have to do with baseball.

wilsonsingles

07-23-2015, 10:40 AM

Maybe some kind of continually updated newsletter would be better. Part general prospecting techniques/info, part current trends/hot players.

andyzk3

07-23-2015, 10:44 AM

A pamphlet would be ideal...

Thommy

07-23-2015, 10:45 AM

I'm going to be brutally honest, not a chance. If you've never written anything the quality is gonna be piss poor (even if you were a good writer in high school and college, it's ridiculously hard to capture a readers attention for 100+ pages). Besides, your OP is riddled with spelling and grammatical mistakes (which is fine, for a forum post, most of my posts have those mistakes as well, but it seriously hurts your ethos in a book). What would you even say for 100+ pages? There's maybe ten pages of material in what you've already talked about, and that's if you're a good writer who knows how to stretch it. I hate to be an #@#@#@#@#@#@#@, I have nothing against you, I just want to help you to not waste your time. If you wanna write a pamphlet or essay in your free time and post it here, people will probably be grateful, but no company is going to publish your prospecting book, even if you think people will read it. Once again, I want to stress this post is not about you :D, it's severe, but it's the severe truth.

benjamincarm

07-23-2015, 10:50 AM

I was paying attention to the thread now moved to the NSCC section about the free prospect seminar and as much as the guy Prospect Trader has gotten ripped about not having credentials or having an amateur take on it, I think it's cool.

a) It's free- if he gives the worst seminar ever you lost nothing and likely gained something

b) There is a stigma about prospecting- that it's bad for the hobby... it can actually be one of the most enjoyable and fun parts of the hobby and furthermore rarely affect those who complain about ti and mostly collect vets and HOFers. So it gets information out about how it can work.

c) I can't say I haven't thought about doing the same thing... he stole my idea:p Last year when I was in Cleveland I was like man I should give a 30 min talk on prospecting.

ANYWAY.

The question is... don't worry about my credentials, assume I have none! Don't worry about me having some scheme to make money, anything I would put out would be free or really cheap and I promise in advance if I do anything not to spam the crap out of it here.

But, if I either made a short book or some type of fun brief read on prospecting, would anyone be interested?

My main goals would be:

1. To give the same info out that i give so many people who pm me for advice in one place

2. To explain prospecting at it's core and why it can be fun and a good investment of money at the same time

3. I've never published anything and I'd be interested in learning the process.

So be honest. I don't want to waste my time as if anyone had interest on the subject it would be people on a sportscard forum. If you wouldn't look at it, that's cool, let me know. If you think you'd read about it but not in book form, let me know. If you think it's be awesome, let me know. If you think it's bad to give out hints and tips let me know. Really anything I'd be interested in hearing.

Thanks

Are you ready to be transparent with all of your proven techniques by showing purchases, sales, etc? I would read over your sales data for sure and if it was intriguing, I'd read over your opinions on how you were able to have success. But if you are going to only provide techniques, opinions, and only talk extermely high level about your sales or purchases, then I'd probably pass.

Boo

07-23-2015, 10:57 AM

Buy Javier Baez autos, don't sell at the peak, hold forever?

Addison

07-23-2015, 11:02 AM

Buy low, sell high.

I wrote the book for you and I want my 7% royalty.

Super8er

07-23-2015, 11:13 AM

A guy learns how to profit from flipping houses. Then he puts together a CD/DVD/book set teaching other people how to profit from flipping houses. Then he pays for production and airtime to run a 30-minute infomercial advertising and selling his CD/DVD/book set. Now he is (probably) making more money teaching people how to flip homes rather than actually doing it himself. So, what was more profitable? Why not just keep his house-flipping secrets to himself and continue to rake in the money from doing that himself?

13goyankees13

07-23-2015, 11:15 AM

Buy low, sell high.

I wrote the book for you and I want my 7% royalty.

Don't buy pitchers.

I want 7% too.

benjamincarm

07-23-2015, 11:15 AM

Why not just keep his house-flipping secrets to himself and continue to rake in the money from doing that himself?

Now he is (probably) making more money teaching people how to flip homes rather than actually doing it himself.

Seems like you answered it yourself ;)

Hollywood42

07-23-2015, 11:16 AM

I would read it. But wouldn't pay for a copy. I'm not into prospecting at all currently, but if there was a good guide on how to do it somewhat effectively, I would definitely give it a read and probably give it a shot

BostonNut

07-23-2015, 11:17 AM

Not a chance in hell I would buy something like that.

1.) I understand simple economics.

2.) I know how to judge talent in baseball.

3.) Prospecting is %99.99999999999999998 luck.

dasiegel

07-23-2015, 11:17 AM

Ok guys, well Jlznick is here so that's cool, lol. And he's right to subscribe because as I expected there has been (good and not trolling comments which I'm very happy about) a general negative sentiment about doing this and you know what, that's cool. Because I'd rather know before I put in the work that it's not something people are interested in. So thanks everyone for their thoughts and feel free to keep them coming. At the end of the day I'm just a guy who's good at prospecting and enjoys many parts of the hobby as a collecting, investor, prospector, etc. Anyone who is on a forum and part of the card community will have a much more weighted opinion to me on this subject so I appreciate the feedback. I know which way I'm leaning but I'll let this play out a little more and try to answer individual posts.

You'll get 50 people committing to buying the book then when it comes out, one will buy it.

I posted I was thinking of opening an LCS in my area. 15-20 people messaged me how great that would be and how they would be customers. Only 3 ever walked in the door, so even if my LCS sucked wind, the other 12-17 wouldn't know it as they never stopped in.

If you want to do it, do it. But don't look for commitments here.

Yea I wouldn't care too much about sales it would be more of a project/community thing. I don't need the $ or anything but I would want people to enjoy the read or it's worthless to me. I wouldn't advertise on BO or the forum at all as I know how that goes (blastfest!) and my rep here is way more important than book sales.

I'll read a book on anything I believe can be a good investment. Prospecting wouldn't be one. Prospecting should be seen as something for fun, there are so much better "investments" that have to do with baseball.

See this is a thought I see here on the forums and I don't get it. So you'd read anything on a good investments but not prospecting? What if it was a good investment? Wouldn't that be counter to what you just said? And prospecting should absolutely be fun... it is! Ask anyone who does it. I'm also legitimately curious on what is a better baseball investmenrt.

Maybe some kind of continually updated newsletter would be better. Part general prospecting techniques/info, part current trends/hot players.

Yea I thought about that but there are several and the traffic is low, I also don't think I could commit to regular updates and eventually it would be another failed experiment.

A pamphlet would be ideal...

Ok interesting thx.

I'm going to be brutally honest, not a chance. If you've never written anything the quality is gonna be piss poor (even if you were a good writer in high school and college, it's ridiculously hard to capture a readers attention for 100+ pages). Besides, your OP is riddled with spelling and grammatical mistakes (which is fine, for a forum post, most of my posts have those mistakes as well, but it seriously hurts your ethos in a book). What would you even say for 100+ pages? There's maybe ten pages of material in what you've already talked about, and that's if you're a good writer who knows how to stretch it. I hate to be an #@#@#@#@#@#@#@, I have nothing against you, I just want to help you to not waste your time. If you wanna write a pamphlet or essay in your free time and post it here, people will probably be grateful, but no company is going to publish your prospecting book, even if you think people will read it. Once again, I want to stress this post is not about you :D, it's severe, but it's the severe truth.

Hahaha, dude don't quote my OP as evidence of my writing style, lol. No, I am a good writer and a journalism major so I'm not worried about that. My threads on here get a ton of responses and I can capture an audience. Your point about content is well taken though. How many pages can one write about the subject without boring the crap out of the target audience. I don't take anything you are saying personally though and appreciate the feedback even though Billy Hamilton is faster than Dee Gordon.

Are you ready to be transparent with all of your proven techniques by showing purchases, sales, etc? I would read over your sales data for sure and if it was intriguing, I'd read over your opinions on how you were able to have success. But if you are going to only provide techniques, opinions, and only talk extermely high level about your sales or purchases, then I'd probably pass.

Ok cool and thanks. I think if I did it it would be more strategy and less data. I think data would bore people and sound like bragging. I'd leave it to someone else to show you how to use outlook, excel, sheets or access to track info and focus more on what to look for, how to pick players, what stats matter, where to look for advice, when to buy, hold and sell.

Andrew Jones

07-23-2015, 11:19 AM

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Peties Army

07-23-2015, 11:19 AM

ronaldo943

07-23-2015, 11:24 AM

See this is a thought I see here on the forums and I don't get it. So you'd read anything on a good investments but not prospecting? What if it was a good investment? Wouldn't that be counter to what you just said? And prospecting should absolutely be fun... it is! Ask anyone who does it. I'm also legitimately curious on what is a better baseball investmenrt.

It isn't a good investment though. The amount of time waiting for a guy to "blow up" isn't worth it. DFS is a much better investment for those that know what they're doing. How much have you made on prospecting and over what period of time that makes it a "good investment?"

dasiegel

07-23-2015, 11:26 AM

Buy low, sell high.

I wrote the book for you and I want my 7% royalty.

Hahaha, well that is kind of any investment, I'll give you 2%.

A guy learns how to profit from flipping houses. Then he puts together a CD/DVD/book set teaching other people how to profit from flipping houses. Then he pays for production and airtime to run a 30-minute infomercial advertising and selling his CD/DVD/book set. Now he is (probably) making more money teaching people how to flip homes rather than actually doing it himself. So, what was more profitable? Why not just keep his house-flipping secrets to himself and continue to rake in the money from doing that himself?

That assumes that the goal is profit. My goal here is more community oriented and a subject I enjoy and have talked to so many people here and at shows about. I just like the topic and wanted to see who else did enough to read my thoughts about it.

Don't buy pitchers.

I want 7% too.

You get zero % bc that's false!

I would read it. But wouldn't pay for a copy. I'm not into prospecting at all currently, but if there was a good guide on how to do it somewhat effectively, I would definitely give it a read and probably give it a shot

Ok thanks

Not a chance in hell I would buy something like that.

1.) I understand simple economics.

2.) I know how to judge talent in baseball.

3.) Prospecting is %99.99999999999999998 luck.

Haha, well my friend you would need to read a book about it if you believe this. Maybe not one I wrote, but somebody's and many people here would back me up on this.

BostonNut

07-23-2015, 11:29 AM

Haha, well my friend you would need to read a book about it if you believe this. Maybe not one I wrote, but somebody's and many people here would back me up on this.

Ha....so if Joe Awesome is batting .678 with 28 homers and 145 RBI's in May and you have a truckload of his cards and he gets hit by a truck, that is not bad luck? :confused::confused::confused:

Yes....Prospecting is luck. The whole "get rich quick" mentality in all aspects of this hobby revolve around luck.

Those who fail to understand this are the ones who need to buy your book....

dasiegel

07-23-2015, 11:34 AM

It isn't a good investment though. The amount of time waiting for a guy to "blow up" isn't worth it. DFS is a much better investment for those that know what they're doing. How much have you made on prospecting and over what period of time that makes it a "good investment?"

Well I guess it depends on what s you see as a good investment. I don't know DFS well so I imagine the way you feel about that would actually help you understand prospecting. You don't have to hold all prospects for months or years. Some you can flip in days, some you flip in weeks, some you can hold until you decide the profit is content for you. I was buying Nomar Mazara for $11 shipped. Whether I chose to sell when the card was $20 a few months later, today when the card is in the mid $30s or next year hoping it's a $50+ card is what can make it fun for each individual person.

Some people would say that's all luck but it's real skill. Some people think luck at the poker table is just that, but if you know math and how people play it's a real skill.

I'm not really gonna debate that point too hard, I'm just saying that you should appreciate that there's a chance it's better than you think and alos a lot of fun.

dasiegel

07-23-2015, 11:36 AM

Ha....so if Joe Awesome is batting .678 with 28 homers and 145 RBI's in May and you have a truckload of his cards and he gets hit by a truck, that is not bad luck? :confused::confused::confused:

Yes....Prospecting is luck. The whole "get rich quick" mentality in all aspects of this hobby revolve around luck.

Those who fail to understand this are the ones who need to buy your book....

Yea, we'll just have to disagree. Prospecting factors in potential injuries and you can't worry about someone getting hit by a truck. I don't want to make this a debate post but rather a feedback post.

trixstar

07-23-2015, 11:38 AM

It's already been written

http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/714467/16287645/1327804918550/Book+Cover+2nd+Edition.jpg

Thommy

07-23-2015, 11:39 AM

Ok guys, well Jlznick is here so that's cool, lol. And he's right to subscribe because as I expected there has been (good and not trolling comments which I'm very happy about) a general negative sentiment about doing this and you know what, that's cool. Because I'd rather know before I put in the work that it's not something people are interested in. So thanks everyone for their thoughts and feel free to keep them coming. At the end of the day I'm just a guy who's good at prospecting and enjoys many parts of the hobby as a collecting, investor, prospector, etc. Anyone who is on a forum and part of the card community will have a much more weighted opinion to me on this subject so I appreciate the feedback. I know which way I'm leaning but I'll let this play out a little more and try to answer individual posts.

Yea I wouldn't care too much about sales it would be more of a project/community thing. I don't need the $ or anything but I would want people to enjoy the read or it's worthless to me. I wouldn't advertise on BO or the forum at all as I know how that goes (blastfest!) and my rep here is way more important than book sales.

See this is a thought I see here on the forums and I don't get it. So you'd read anything on a good investments but not prospecting? What if it was a good investment? Wouldn't that be counter to what you just said? And prospecting should absolutely be fun... it is! Ask anyone who does it. I'm also legitimately curious on what is a better baseball investmenrt.

Yea I thought about that but there are several and the traffic is low, I also don't think I could commit to regular updates and eventually it would be another failed experiment.

Ok interesting thx.

Hahaha, dude don't quote my OP as evidence of my writing style, lol. No, I am a good writer and a journalism major so I'm not worried about that. My threads on here get a ton of responses and I can capture an audience. Your point about content is well taken though. How many pages can one write about the subject without boring the crap out of the target audience. I don't take anything you are saying personally though and appreciate the feedback even though Billy Hamilton is faster than Dee Gordon.

Ok cool and thanks. I think if I did it it would be more strategy and less data. I think data would bore people and sound like bragging. I'd leave it to someone else to show you how to use outlook, excel, sheets or access to track info and focus more on what to look for, how to pick players, what stats matter, where to look for advice, when to buy, hold and sell.
OK, so that didn't work to scare you out of this think about this:

How many adults do you think are out there who collect enough to buy this? MAYBE 25000 at most I'd say. Optimistically, half of those read frequently. That leaves us at 12500, most of whom have NO interest in prospecting. It isn't close to this number but we'll say 5000 are left. Again most of these people will never know this book exists (how would they?). So let's say the number drops to 2000, who are all forum members of various forums, where the book becomes a hit. At most, one thousand of these will want to read it for one reason or another. Another 500 or so people will be collectors, interested in prospecting, who read, who know your book exists, and are actually interested in it, but just will never get around to buying it or end up spending the money on something else. That makes your target audience optimistically 500 people. Books usually cost around $10, I don't know the industry well, but I'd guess that at least half of that goes into the manufacturing and sale of the book (ie manufcaturers and Barnes and Noble). And then half of what's left goes to the publishing and distribution (Penguin, who would never publish this, but just an example). That leaves $1250 for you and the publishing company, are you willing to put in months of full time hard work for $1250 (BEFORE taxes)? I know publishing companies aren't. And that's if you print the perfect amount of books, which is statistically as close to impossible as just about anything.

And at this point I won't argue with the Dee Gordon Billy Hamilton point, but Dee is still 10x the ballplayer :D.

ronaldo943

07-23-2015, 11:40 AM

Well I guess it depends on what s you see as a good investment. I don't know DFS well so I imagine the way you feel about that would actually help you understand prospecting. You don't have to hold all prospects for months or years. Some you can flip in days, some you flip in weeks, some you can hold until you decide the profit is content for you. I was buying Nomar Mazara for $11 shipped. Whether I chose to sell when the card was $20 a few months later, today when the card is in the mid $30s or next year hoping it's a $50+ card is what can make it fun for each individual person.

Some people would say that's all luck but it's real skill. Some people think luck at the poker table is just that, but if you know math and how people play it's a real skill.

I'm not really gonna debate that point too hard, I'm just saying that you should appreciate that there's a chance it's better than you think and alos a lot of fun.

Prospecting for the most part is skill, I definitely agree with you on that. Poker for the most part is skill as well. I don't agree on prospecting being a "good investment. "

RFulch40

07-23-2015, 11:40 AM

You? No....

smalltown

07-23-2015, 11:41 AM

abbottbowden28

07-23-2015, 11:41 AM

I'd definitely read it

benjamincarm

07-23-2015, 11:41 AM

[B]Ok cool and thanks. I think if I did it it would be more strategy and less data. I think data would bore people and sound like bragging. I'd leave it to someone else to show you how to use outlook, excel, sheets or access to track info and focus more on what to look for, how to pick players, what stats matter, where to look for advice, when to buy, hold and sell.

yeah, but to me, strategy without supporting data is not strategy, it's a baseless opinion. And I don't mean that as an insult. Maybe it's just my thought process but if someone tells me "do this and you can make money", my first though it, "can you prove that".

Giving your strategy/opinion with no supporting data is more bragging, again, to me.

ronaldo943

07-23-2015, 11:43 AM

BostonNut

07-23-2015, 11:54 AM

Prospecting for the most part is skill, I definitely agree with you on that. Poker for the most part is skill as well. I don't agree on prospecting being a "good investment. "

Yes....recognizing the talent is skill.

What happens from there on out is all luck.

BostonNut

07-23-2015, 11:54 AM

Hi Debbie Downer. Why did you stand me up in high school??? :confused:;)

OK, so that didn't work to scare you out of this think about this:

How many adults do you think are out there who collect enough to buy this? MAYBE 25000 at most I'd say. Optimistically, half of those read frequently. That leaves us at 12500, most of whom have NO interest in prospecting. It isn't close to this number but we'll say 5000 are left. Again most of these people will never know this book exists (how would they?). So let's say the number drops to 2000, who are all forum members of various forums, where the book becomes a hit. At most, one thousand of these will want to read it for one reason or another. Another 500 or so people will be collectors, interested in prospecting, who read, who know your book exists, and are actually interested in it, but just will never get around to buying it or end up spending the money on something else. That makes your target audience optimistically 500 people. Books usually cost around $10, I don't know the industry well, but I'd guess that at least half of that goes into the manufacturing and sale of the book (ie manufcaturers and Barnes and Noble). And then half of what's left goes to the publishing and distribution (Penguin, who would never publish this, but just an example). That leaves $1250 for you and the publishing company, are you willing to put in months of full time hard work for $1250 (BEFORE taxes)? I know publishing companies aren't. And that's if you print the perfect amount of books, which is statistically as close to impossible as just about anything.

And at this point I won't argue with the Dee Gordon Billy Hamilton point, but Dee is still 10x the ballplayer :D.

Thommy

07-23-2015, 11:58 AM

Hi Debbie Downer. Why did you stand me up in high school??? :confused:;)

Haha, I just don't want him to waste months only to get turned up by every publishing company.

dasiegel

07-23-2015, 12:00 PM

yeah, but to me, strategy without supporting data is not strategy, it's a baseless opinion. And I don't mean that as an insult. Maybe it's just my thought process but if someone tells me "do this and you can make money", my first though it, "can you prove that".

Giving your strategy/opinion with no supporting data is more bragging, again, to me.

Ok I figured that would bore people, I'll reconsider that.

I'd definitely read it

Ok cool thanks, what are you interested in?

I'd switch up your thinking on the project. Do a blog, a website or even a column. Instead of chapters do weekly or monthly entries. I think you'd get a lot more views doing this. It'd also allow for each post to reference specific or timely matters.

Good thoughts but I don't think I'd commit to a regularly updated blog or website... In theory I could do that on here in a thread.

You? No....

Ugh ok.

OK, so that didn't work to scare you out of this think about this...

And at this point I won't argue with the Dee Gordon Billy Hamilton point, but Dee is still 10x the ballplayer :D.

Haha you really don't want me to write a book lolol

Thommy

07-23-2015, 12:06 PM

Ok I figured that would bore people, I'll reconsider that.

Ok cool thanks, what are you interested in?

Good thoughts but I don't think I'd commit to a regularly updated blog or website... In theory I could do that on here in a thread.

Ugh ok.

Haha you really don't want me to write a book lolol
If you want to write it for fun, by all means go do it, tons of people write for fun. But don't expect to be financially supported by the book, or even for the book to be published. I'm sure many people would love to read a well written essay on prospecting too (I'd certainly enjoy reading it!). I'm just letting you know what you'd likely be getting yourself into.

Dbott1234

07-23-2015, 12:08 PM

Just being honest, but I wouldn't waste your time or money. Instead focus on picking up cards and making money.

I wouldn't have any interest.

dasiegel

07-23-2015, 12:09 PM

If you want to write it for fun, by all means go do it, tons of people write for fun. But don't expect to be financially supported by the book, or even for the book to be published. I'm sure many people would love to read a well written essay on prospecting too (I'd certainly enjoy reading it!). I'm just letting you know what you'd likely be getting yourself into.

No I totally get it, we are on the same page... It looks like it would have to be for fun.

kidmikey

07-23-2015, 12:24 PM

death2redemptions

07-23-2015, 12:26 PM

ronaldo943

07-23-2015, 12:40 PM

I would only take advice from somebody who has proven to be more successful than the majority of everyone else so I would need to see data from sales that prove you are exceptionally good at what you do. Even then I'm not sure if I'd pay much to read it because as BostonNut has mentioned, lots of prospecting is indeed luck. Sure, there is skill involved to be a good prospector but luck is also a large factor.

Exactly, I see Dasiegel tooting his own horn, but has yet to show any actual data that supports how good he actually is.

VinnyH

07-23-2015, 12:48 PM

I'd switch up your thinking on the project. Do a blog, a website or even a column. Instead of chapters do weekly or monthly entries. I think you'd get a lot more views doing this. It'd also allow for each post to reference specific or timely matters.
A few guys have missed how the OP isn't just trying to sell a book about prospecting. He has said he would like to share his opinions and strategies.
Smalltown beat me to it but that info would make a nice read on a website. The website could add ads eventually to potentially sell other stuff, like OP's ebay stuff or Google Adsense type links.

Vinny :)!
PS: 19 yr old hitters with the makeup to improve.

chansen10

07-23-2015, 12:50 PM

dasiegel

07-23-2015, 12:54 PM

Exactly, I see Dasiegel tooting his own horn, but has yet to show any actual data that supports how good he actually is.

I'm tooting my own horn huh:coffee:

centereacan06

07-23-2015, 12:56 PM

Don't buy pitchers.

I want 7% too.

Why not? What about the guys who bought Harvey, JoFer, deGrom, and now Nola, Syndergaard, Matz, Archer, Gray, etc...?

death2redemptions

07-23-2015, 12:57 PM

I'm tooting my own horn huh:coffee:

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BostonNut

07-23-2015, 12:57 PM

Why not? What about the guys who bought Harvey, JoFer, deGrom, and now Nola, Syndergaard, Matz, Archer, Gray, etc...?

Because the flip side of that coin is exponential...

ronaldo943

07-23-2015, 01:00 PM

I'm tooting my own horn huh:coffee:

I hope someone who knows prospecting does go to the seminar or that the free session is recorded because I'd like to see if good advice is actually being given. I don't want to toot my horn TOOT! but I am one of the guys who really knows what they are doing and have given a ton of advice on this site but have seen some awful advice given and each time I see stuff about a game of hot potato and selling at callup I wanna puke.

:D:D:D

.............

jlzinck

07-23-2015, 01:00 PM

Here is your book.

Buy cards

Pimp player every chance you get.

Profit

jlzinck

07-23-2015, 01:01 PM

:D:D:D

.............

Drop the mic gif needed please

jared6180

07-23-2015, 01:11 PM

This book came out last year and is a very solid read.

The Modern Baseball Card Investor: Jeff Hwang: 9780985792886: Amazon.com: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Baseball-Card-Investor/dp/0985792884/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437672207&sr=8-1&keywords=modern+baseball+cards)

I bought this book just to see what he had to say. I am sure the guy is a nice, smart guy and all, but I would say I learned more about prospecting and profiting from the Blowout forums than I did from the book. A lot of the book is repeat information even just from chapter to chapter.

A few people would no doubt buy your book, but it would need to be dramatically different from Jeff Hwang's book to even make me a little interested. In reality it is probably not worth your time or effort.

lobo_hacker

07-23-2015, 01:15 PM

-I'd buy a signed copy if it were cheap enough.

I wouldn't read it, but i'd buy it.

lobo_hacker, happily avoiding recreational reading since 2002

Boo

07-23-2015, 01:27 PM

I would only take advice from somebody who has proven to be more successful than the majority of everyone else so I would need to see data from sales that prove you are exceptionally good at what you do. Even then I'm not sure if I'd pay much to read it because as BostonNut has mentioned, lots of prospecting is indeed luck. Sure, there is skill involved to be a good prospector but luck is also a large factor.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/baseball/420894-art-collecting-prospects.html

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/baseball/510728-prospectors-educate-us-about-minors.html

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/baseball/519205-prospectors-callup-time-really-best-time-sell.html

centereacan06

07-23-2015, 01:30 PM

Because the flip side of that coin is exponential...

Wouldn't it be near the same for hitters, too? People say all the time "For every Trout (replace with guy who's done well), there are five Brandon Woods (replace with bust)."

mfw13

07-23-2015, 01:31 PM

No. Because prospecting isn't that hard. Just requires a lot of time and effort doing research. But it ain't rocket science...all you have to do is find out about guys before everyone else does...and that's just a matter of doing more research than everyone else...

dasiegel

07-23-2015, 01:31 PM

Just being honest, but I wouldn't waste your time or money. Instead focus on picking up cards and making money.

I wouldn't have any interest.

Yea seems to be the sentiment

This book came out last year and is a very solid read.

The Modern Baseball Card Investor: Jeff Hwang: 9780985792886: Amazon.com: Books (http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Baseball-Card-Investor/dp/0985792884/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437672207&sr=8-1&keywords=modern+baseball+cards)

I'll take a look, thx

I would only take advice from somebody who has proven to be more successful than the majority of everyone else so I would need to see data from sales that prove you are exceptionally good at what you do. Even then I'm not sure if I'd pay much to read it because as BostonNut has mentioned, lots of prospecting is indeed luck. Sure, there is skill involved to be a good prospector but luck is also a large factor.

I really disagree with the luck thing but I guess that would be what I'd have to sell people on. BTW I'm not trying to be ignorant, I mean injuries, trades and all kinds of factors can definitely impact a player but I think across the board it would not prevent one from trying prospecting. Especially because people tend to enjoy watching baseball, stat tracking and reading about the new hot players anyway so why not pick up a few cards of those guys ya know.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/7XhmONHBagAMg/200.gif (http://giphy.com/gifs/7XhmONHBagAMg)
:D:D:D
(http://giphy.com/gifs/7XhmONHBagAMg)

That was me a few years ago

:D:D:D

.............

Bringing a quote from another thread isn't really proving your point. Especially since I have reconsidered my position on Prospect Trader's seminar in several threads since then. Not sure why you are trolling. You don't have to read anything I write. You made your point earlier before your started typing garbage.

I bought this book just to see what he had to say. I am sure the guy is a nice, smart guy and all, but I would say I learned more about prospecting and profiting from the Blowout forums than I did from the book. A lot of the book is repeat information even just from chapter to chapter.

A few people would no doubt buy your book, but it would need to be dramatically different from Jeff Hwang's book to even make me a little interested. In reality it is probably not worth your time or effort.

That's why I feel there is a place for a book on strategy and what to look for because most of what I learned is also from forums, articles, discussion and taking the best parts of everyone's advice and then trial and error. I would think it would have to be a bathroom reader and that I'd lose an audience over 50-100 pages but I think how to is better than a science in this type of subject.

Here is your book.

Buy cards

Pimp player every chance you get.

Profit

You're the king Wheeler!

mikecala98

07-23-2015, 01:32 PM

If there were pictures of hot chicks I'd read (look) at it.

ronaldo943

07-23-2015, 01:35 PM

Bringing a quote from another thread isn't really proving your point. Especially since I have reconsidered my position on Prospect Trader's seminar in several threads since then. Not sure why you are trolling. You don't have to read anything I write. You made your point earlier before your started typing garbage.

Typing garbage? Butt hurt much? I just found it hilarious how you act like you're amazing at this, but have yet to proved that with actual data.

dasiegel

07-23-2015, 01:35 PM

-I'd buy a signed copy if it were cheap enough.

I wouldn't read it, but i'd buy it.

lobo_hacker, happily avoiding recreational reading since 2002

I'd send you one for free!

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/baseball/420894-art-collecting-prospects.html

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/baseball/510728-prospectors-educate-us-about-minors.html

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/baseball/519205-prospectors-callup-time-really-best-time-sell.html

Not really sure what your point is here? That 2/3 years ago I was trying to pick up as much info about prospects as I can? That I wasn't very good at it at the time? Really don't knwo where you are going with this.

I don't have a degree in cardboard, but I love the hobby and have found a way to prospect that works for me.

No. Because prospecting isn't that hard. Just requires a lot of time and effort doing research. But it ain't rocket science...all you have to do is find out about guys before everyone else does...and that's just a matter of doing more research than everyone else...

I totally agree with everything you say here. But maybe putting that to paper would help more people get it and also some tips to save time in your research.

jlzinck

07-23-2015, 01:36 PM

If there were pictures of hot chicks I'd read (look) at it.

We already have that

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/off-topic/589341-mmmmmmm-nsfw.html

dasiegel

07-23-2015, 01:39 PM

If there were pictures of hot chicks I'd read (look) at it.

Pics are actually a cool idea.

Typing garbage? Butt hurt much? I just found it hilarious how you act like you're amazimg at this, but have yet to proved that with actual data.

No my butt is fine, nice actually, but I don't get why your coming after me in a thread where I'm asking if anyone would be interested in a book about prospecting. Acting like I think I'm above anyone else because I feel I have knowledge about one niche of the hobby by pulling quotes from other threads is a lot of work to someone who is just asking about interest in reading, no?

As for actual data, why would I provide actual data, I'm just gauging interest in the entire project. I don't get your point here. If you don't think i have enough data or support then you'd just be someone IF the book did get written who wouldn't agree with my strategy, nothing more nothing less.

mikecala98

07-23-2015, 01:41 PM

dasiegel

07-23-2015, 01:49 PM

Honestly, just make a free website and post a narrative on there. Keep the link in your sig so people can read it. If there is enough interest in your opinions, theories, experiences etc. then demand will suggest you make something out of it.

Yea I think after reading everything from the thread (which is starting to derail classic BO style) you are probably right. That just doesn't seem that fun to do, but I think that tends to be the majority opinion if I wanted to go ahead with anything. Guess we shall see.

Thanks everyone for their thoughts and opinions good and bad. For the 98% that had something constructive to say I appreciate it. And big shout out to the people who pm'd me offering to help especially internationally, I was not expecting all that! I'll let you all know if I decide to go forward with anything and you can bring your popcorn back to the thread!

ronaldo943

07-23-2015, 01:55 PM

No my butt is fine, nice actually, but I don't get why your coming after me in a thread where I'm asking if anyone would be interested in a book about prospecting. Acting like I think I'm above anyone else because I feel I have knowledge about one niche of the hobby by pulling quotes from other threads is a lot of work to someone who is just asking about interest in reading, no?

As for actual data, why would I provide actual data, I'm just gauging interest in the entire project. I don't get your point here. If you don't think i have enough data or support then you'd just be someone IF the book did get written who wouldn't agree with my strategy, nothing more nothing less.

I brought that up because of this quote:
I'm tooting my own horn huh:coffee:

And this one:

At the end of the day I'm just a guy who's good at prospecting and enjoys many parts of the hobby as a collecting, investor, prospector, etc.

You have made yourself seem like you're above others. And saying thay you've seen awful advice, really dude? How big is your ego? Heck, at least back it up.

death2redemptions

07-23-2015, 01:55 PM

Yea I think after reading everything from the thread (which is starting to derail classic BO style) you are probably right. That just doesn't seem that fun to do, but I think that tends to be the majority opinion if I wanted to go ahead with anything. Guess we shall see.

Thanks everyone for their thoughts and opinions good and bad. For the 98% that had something constructive to say I appreciate it. And big shout out to the people who pm'd me offering to help especially internationally, I was not expecting all that! I'll let you all know if I decide to go forward with anything and you can bring your popcorn back to the thread!

I think a free internet site is definitely a nice idea. I would check out something like that. I'm just not willing to open up the wallet to get the info.

FLMARLIN

07-23-2015, 02:11 PM

What Thommy said is pretty brutal but ultimately correct. Don't waste your time putting out a book. Go with a website or blog of some type and post your articles on here. I think if you took the time to post well-written, informative articles here, it would be well-received. Good luck with what you choose to do.

It isn't a good investment though. The amount of time waiting for a guy to "blow up" isn't worth it. DFS is a much better investment for those that know what they're doing. How much have you made on prospecting and over what period of time that makes it a "good investment?"

Agree with this. It's much easier to win a triple up (3X your money) on DFS than it is to pick a prospect that will go from a $10 to $30 card. That's not even factoring in the amount of time you'd have to wait for the prospect card to gain hype and value. Prospecting is fun and I have had some decent luck, but it isn't a good investment choice.

gonzagacubs

07-23-2015, 02:14 PM

Honestly, after reading your posts on the basketball portion of the forum, I feel like 75% of the time you have no clue what the hell you are talking about. So, no. No, I would not buy your prospecting book.

Cavaliercards

07-23-2015, 02:15 PM

Here is your book.

Buy cards

Pimp player every chance you get.

Profit

Can you make that a flip book with a dinosaur eating a shark that ate a rabbit that ate the flower?

;)

dasiegel

07-23-2015, 02:36 PM

I might read a blog post here and there.. No time for a book.. Prospecting is a skill, I certainly don't have the time for it.. Normally I just "prospect" one guy and invest heavily into him during the offseason.. I've done that for 5 years in a row and have been a winner 5 times.. The jury is still out on nunez..

If u bought at the right time ur good on Nunez

Honestly, after reading your posts on the basketball portion of the forum, I feel like 75% of the time you have no clue what the hell you are talking about. So, no. No, I would not buy your prospecting book.

Well that's the topic I know and love in this world more than anything so if u disagree with that much of what I say u probably know nothing abt the sport... But thanks for that useful comment troll.

RFulch40

07-23-2015, 02:38 PM

dasiegel

07-23-2015, 02:41 PM

You have made yourself seem like you're above others. And saying thay you've seen awful advice, really dude? How big is your ego? Heck, at least back it up.

You went out of your way to start an issue when I was looking for feedback on book interest, u make no sense, you quote tongue in cheek comments, you're off topic, you're a troll, gbye

ronaldo943

07-23-2015, 02:42 PM

If u bought at the right time ur good on Nunez

Well that's the topic I know and love in this world more than anything so if u disagree with that much of what I say u probably know nothing abt the sport... But thanks for that useful comment troll.

Yes, people are trolls because they disagree with you. :rolleyes:

Highroller

07-23-2015, 02:44 PM

If u bought at the right time ur good on Nunez

Well that's the topic I know and love in this world more than anything so if u disagree with that much of what I say u probably know nothing abt the sport... But thanks for that useful comment troll.

You are the most arrogant person on this forum and I'm not shocked you are the one who started this thread.

dasiegel

07-23-2015, 02:45 PM

I feel that about his baseball posts...

I have no clue who you are???

Guys the people from the basement have come out to play:)! This thread has officially derailed. Hey we had about 2.5 pretty useful pages, not bad.

Thanks tor those of you who tried to help or give me advice either way on the OP!

ronaldo943

07-23-2015, 02:46 PM

I have no clue who you are???

Guys the people from the basement have come out to play:)! This thread has officially derailed. Hey we had about 2.5 pretty useful pages, not bad.

Thanks tor those of you who tried to help or give me advice either way on the OP!

You're welcome. :) Sorry about you getting butthurt once people started to burst your bubble. :(

death2redemptions

07-23-2015, 02:46 PM

Yes, people are trolls because they disagree with you. :rolleyes:

I generally like to troll myself to keep my mind sharp.

ronaldo943

07-23-2015, 02:47 PM

I generally like to troll myself to keep my mind sharp.

Genius. ;)

StlScott

07-23-2015, 02:51 PM

Yea, we'll just have to disagree. Prospecting factors in potential injuries and you can't worry about someone getting hit by a truck. I don't want to make this a debate post but rather a feedback post.

Everything has risk. Secondly, there are very few good opportunities each year. Everyone looking for the same thing drives colors too high too fast. I have thought about doing something similar. First, I don't want to be responsible for any person losing money. Secondly mine would be more like a long article than a book. I appreciate your desire to help. I love talking prospects, but money makes it more difficult.

ronaldo943

07-23-2015, 03:09 PM

I feel that about his baseball posts...

:D This guy needs to humble himself, probably his first good season as a "prospector" and already thinks he is above everyone.

There are even people in the baseball forum who think they are better than the people in the basketball section... it's unbelievable... but IGNORE THEM.

-dasiegel

gonzagacubs

07-23-2015, 03:22 PM

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/heretic600/virgil.jpg

Bretsky

07-23-2015, 03:42 PM

Probably more interested in a blog than an actual book. People have short attention spans nowadays. Maybe apply for the cardboardconnection opening if you want to try something like this out.

ArsonCuff

07-23-2015, 03:47 PM

Write it if it interests you and you want to do it. You're the first one who has to read it and keep your own interest while you create it.

jewcer2k5

07-23-2015, 03:56 PM

Good back from vacation read here.

smh

Bbluebanshee

07-23-2015, 03:59 PM

I bought a pick axe, and a sluice...and still suck at prospecting!!

tonedef2oo8

07-23-2015, 04:34 PM

If youre really making money prospecting you shouldn't have to sell your secrets.

tonedef2oo8

07-23-2015, 04:40 PM

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/heretic600/virgil.jpg

http://41.media.tumblr.com/8e5e013484104fd19945d0c06f695ac1/tumblr_m4t669FPIO1rs1f4ro1_r1_500.jpg

gonzagacubs

07-23-2015, 04:51 PM

Good back from vacation read here.

smh

You aren't co-authoring it?

jewcer2k5

07-23-2015, 05:13 PM

You aren't co-authoring it?

Sorry I don't prospect so I don't know if me writing anything would be helpful.

Have we ever had an interaction before this?

Flkrsn5

07-23-2015, 08:59 PM

I think it'd be great!

base set

07-23-2015, 09:22 PM

A blog would be the way to go. Outside of baseball cards, the best of blogs are eventually monetized into a real publishing venture with paid advertisements, though this is probably as rare as a successful (i.e. money-making) self-published book. I have never seen that happen with card blogs; one author of a book on baseball cards kind of tried to keep publishing via blogs but he fizzled out fairly soon. But it is not impossible and a blog would probably connect you to more readers than a book effort. You can publish on a blog for free and have one up and running quite quickly with slick results.

If you think you wouldn't stick to writing blog posts then you probably wouldn't finish a book either.

I don't prospect or have any plans to but I can't recall a prospecting blog and I think one would be popular over time if it were kept active. I somewhat doubt the hobby segment known as prospecting is completely static - it must change over time and there would be plenty of topics to cover. An advantage of a blog over a book is that a blog is dynamic; once a book is published it is then a static point in time.

If you truly want to publish your ideas on prospecting an excellent topic to start with would be a detailed look at the Hwang book, by an experienced prospector who hasn't been using his tips/techniques. That would get you a lot of eyeballs pretty quickly.

preakness

07-23-2015, 10:03 PM

NickM

07-24-2015, 12:02 AM

If you have a decent voice and know how to make your own videos, doing a youtube channel on prospecting might be good.

tke1600

07-24-2015, 08:47 AM

I'd say just do it but don't expect everyone to like it. Some people complain and are negative if you try to hand them a $20 bill.

phreak23

07-24-2015, 09:20 AM

Seems about right, page 3-4 the funny guys try to turn it into a backfire thread.

OP: I would be very interested! Maybe not in a book, but a blog or something similar with weekly/daily updates, maybe some Faqs and a section for Q&A would be cool. I really never got into prospecting, wouldn't consider it a way to "get rich quick" just another way to enjoy the hobby! Maybe help fund my growing PC! Or add a little excitement, of course luck will have huge effects on your ability to prospect, but I know there are tips and secrets I never would have figured out on my own. I am always curious about who/when to grade the card, or if you even need to send the cards in for grading. I have a Josh Donaldson Gold RC auto I've yet to send in, I don't even know if it's worth getting it graded.

mouschi

07-24-2015, 09:29 AM

I'm actually looking into doing the same thing; though, not on prospecting. I love writing, and have a blog myself. As an author friend of mine says though, blogging is dead. I wouldn't go that far, but blogs don't seem to get nearly the traffic they once did.

DetectiveChrome

07-24-2015, 09:30 AM

If it was called "A PR-inspired way of prospecting" I'd buy a case or two :)

Just make sure to put a random slab in each book jacket! I'M CHASING A TROUT 9.5!

dasiegel

07-24-2015, 10:47 AM

Why would a bunch of people have to pay for it?
Can't they just have one pay and then copy/paste like some do with paying customer account for ESPN insider and /or subscriber part of baseball America ?

Yea I mean really again, it would be a project, I would likely give a bunch away on here anyway. I've just always wanted to publish a book and despite attacks on me thinking I'm hot sh!t, I'm just a guy who think he has some good ideas on a subject i am passionate about.

I think it'd be great!

Thanks

Sorry I don't prospect so I don't know if me writing anything would be helpful.

Have we ever had an interaction before this?

lol

If you have a decent voice and know how to make your own videos, doing a youtube channel on prospecting might be good.

Interesting, the ones I've seen never come out well, I feel it's a bit tackier unless you are great at editing, but thanks for the thought.

I'd say just do it but don't expect everyone to like it. Some people complain and are negative if you try to hand them a $20 bill.

Yessir! Thx

Seems about right, page 3-4 the funny guys try to turn it into a backfire thread.

OP: I would be very interested! Maybe not in a book, but a blog or something similar with weekly/daily updates, maybe some Faqs and a section for Q&A would be cool. I really never got into prospecting, wouldn't consider it a way to "get rich quick" just another way to enjoy the hobby! Maybe help fund my growing PC! Or add a little excitement, of course luck will have huge effects on your ability to prospect, but I know there are tips and secrets I never would have figured out on my own. I am always curious about who/when to grade the card, or if you even need to send the cards in for grading. I have a Josh Donaldson Gold RC auto I've yet to send in, I don't even know if it's worth getting it graded.

Yea it's definitely not a get rich scheme. You won't get rich on prospecting for a number of reasons and I agree it's just a huge part of the hobby now because of one thing, IT'S FUN! There's a thin line between pimping prospects and talking about the guys you like. The line is that if you like prospecting its discussion and if you hate prospecting you think everyone who mentions guys they collect are evil monsters who somehow have the power through a forum to manipulate the entire market, lol, it's ridiculous.

As for the Donaldson, if you post a pic here guys can give you pretty good feedback (as good as you can give through a pic), thanks for the thoguhts.

I'm actually looking into doing the same thing; though, not on prospecting. I love writing, and have a blog myself. As an author friend of mine says though, blogging is dead. I wouldn't go that far, but blogs don't seem to get nearly the traffic they once did.

You are the man when it comes to customs and Canseco so I'm sure you'd have a lot of cool things to write about! Like the feedback I'm receiving i imagine it would have to be expected that the audience is small but I say go for it. Blogging is just saturated, same with youtube channels, that's why it's tough.

If it was called "A PR-inspired way of prospecting" I'd buy a case or two :)

Just make sure to put a random slab in each book jacket! I'M CHASING A TROUT 9.5!

Should each page have tickets:p

ronaldo943

07-24-2015, 11:54 AM

Agree with this. It's much easier to win a triple up (3X your money) on DFS than it is to pick a prospect that will go from a $10 to $30 card. That's not even factoring in the amount of time you'd have to wait for the prospect card to gain hype and value. Prospecting is fun and I have had some decent luck, but it isn't a good investment choice.

Just saw this comment. Yes, DFS is a much better investment than prospecting. You don't have to deal with shipping, ebay fees, buyer's remorse. Anyone that thinks "prospecting" is a good investment needs to take a business course.

base set

07-24-2015, 02:43 PM

Prospect Trader

07-24-2015, 02:47 PM

I was paying attention to the thread now moved to the NSCC section about the free prospect seminar and as much as the guy Prospect Trader has gotten ripped about not having credentials or having an amateur take on it, I think it's cool.

a) It's free- if he gives the worst seminar ever you lost nothing and likely gained something

b) There is a stigma about prospecting- that it's bad for the hobby... it can actually be one of the most enjoyable and fun parts of the hobby and furthermore rarely affect those who complain about ti and mostly collect vets and HOFers. So it gets information out about how it can work.

c) I can't say I haven't thought about doing the same thing... he stole my idea:p Last year when I was in Cleveland I was like man I should give a 30 min talk on prospecting.

ANYWAY.

The question is... don't worry about my credentials, assume I have none! Don't worry about me having some scheme to make money, anything I would put out would be free or really cheap and I promise in advance if I do anything not to spam the crap out of it here.

But, if I either made a short book or some type of fun brief read on prospecting, would anyone be interested?

My main goals would be:

1. To give the same info out that i give so many people who pm me for advice in one place

2. To explain prospecting at it's core and why it can be fun and a good investment of money at the same time

3. I've never published anything and I'd be interested in learning the process.

So be honest. I don't want to waste my time as if anyone had interest on the subject it would be people on a sportscard forum. If you wouldn't look at it, that's cool, let me know. If you think you'd read about it but not in book form, let me know. If you think it's be awesome, let me know. If you think it's bad to give out hints and tips let me know. Really anything I'd be interested in hearing.

Thanks

First let me say, thanks for sticking up for me and sorry for stealing your idea. :)

I'm always interested in discussing new approaches to prospecting, so I will read and BUY your book if you write one. Not sure f you read "The Modern Baseball Card Investor" by Jeff Hwang or not, it's not specific to prospecting, but it's worth reading. But, I'm analytical, so I read everything I can on a topic.

I have started posting videos since, (like with you) people have been critical of my credentials. Maybe we could collaborate on a few things, even start or host some type of weekly dialogue where prospectors chat.

I look forward to pursuing something like that because I agree with you, prospecting is fun, my daughter and I have some great moments together in this hobby and it does get a bum rap. I'd love to help you change that stigma.

Let's talk.

Rob