Carlos Correa Raw Chrome Auto just sold for $445.00

[steelers]

Just ended on ebay, ungraded Correa bowman chrome auto for $ 445.00 and bidders all had very high feedback. So is Correa headed for Mike Trout levels or possibly more ? He is a shortstop, just 20 years old and is having a far superior start to his career than Mike Trout or almost anyone ever. He keeps getting better each month and the power numbers are crazy good. All the reports on his defense at short are from outstanding to amazing, so I guess he is not moving off short anytime soon, that's for sure. I think he compares to a young A-Rod but better defensively. So could his chrome auto be headed for $1000 ?

[pitch21]

I had a similar question that I was going to get pose. Any thoughts on value ceiling? Is it Trout level?

My thought is that his stuff could be 750-800 by the end of the playoffs for a 9.5/10 base auto. Looking forward to hearing other thoughts.

[Bhenry4]

That's absolutely mind boggling. Granted, it should be selling for more than KB, but still Cubs collectors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Astros collectors. Talents like him transcend team collectors, but these prices are still shocking. Base Machado's can be had for $125-150.

[trixstar]

BGS 9.5 for 496 ends in 3 hours.

[Peties Army]

Yes I think trout level is possible but only if they go deap in playoffs.

[baseballfan22]

Dang, the cards that could be bought for $445....

[phisouza33]

does Correa qualify for ROY?

[death2redemptions]

It took a few years in the majors before Trout reached $1k so don't be expecting him to reach those levels this year.

does Correa qualify for ROY?

Yes, he does. I don't see anyone challenging him either.

[phisouza33]

It took a few years in the majors before Trout reached $1k so don't be expecting him to reach those levels this year.



Yes, he does. I don't see anyone challenging him either.

in that case its a done deal

[stormshadow815]

Trout levels wont happen unless he does this again next year. I don't see people reaching deep enough till its proven.

[msterling21]

Who said all prospects are a sell right when they're called up?

[Bhenry4]

Ha, most prospects don't come out guns blazing on a contending team that hasn't contended in a long time.

[msterling21]

If anyone is curious, I took notes on what they were selling for back in 2013.

06/16/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9/10, $61, (A)
06/16/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $124, (A)
06/18/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Purple Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $1300, (BIN), 02/10
06/20/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $97, (A)
06/21/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $180, (BO), 456/500
06/22/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 10/10, $300, (BO)
06/22/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 10/10, $250, (BO)
06/24/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 10/10, $275, (BO)
06/25/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 10/10, $270, (BO)
06/26/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $425, (BO)
06/27/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $120, (BO)
06/28/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Red Refractor Carlos Correa AU RAW, $1150, (A), 5/5
07/01/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Red Refractor Carlos Correa AU RAW, $1592, (A), 3/5
07/02/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $177, (A), 268/500
07/05/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 10/10, $500, (BIN)
07/06/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $108, (A)
07/07/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $114, (A)
07/07/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $205, (A), 244/500
07/08/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $180, (BO), 490/500
07/14/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Orange Refractor Carlos Correa AU RAW, $650, (BO), 23/25
07/17/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Orange Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $950, (BO), 19/25
07/18/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $400, (BIN)
07/18/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $173, (A), 125/500
07/19/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Wave Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $450, (BO), 22/50
07/20/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Orange Refractor Carlos Correa AU RAW, $700, (BIN), 07/25
07/20/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Orange Refractor Carlos Correa AU RAW, $675, (BO), 04/25
07/21/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $198, (A), 205/500
07/22/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Orange Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $1150, (BO)
07/24/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $180, (A), 150/500
07/25/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Gold Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $820, (A)
07/26/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Wave Refractor Carlos Correa AU 10/10, $1200, (BO)
07/27/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $400, (BIN), 115/150
07/27/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Purple Refractor Carlos Correa AU RAW, $975, (BO), 06/10
08/06/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Gold Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9/10, $391, (A), 50/50
08/06/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Orange Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $2000, (BIN), 1/25
08/06/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $475, (BO)
08/07/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $150, (BIN)
08/07/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $200, (BO)
08/10/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Wave Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $600, (BO)
08/10/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $500, (BIN), 008/150
08/12/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Refractor Carlos Correa AU 10/10, $807, (A), 415/500
08/12/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $427, (A), 138/150
08/13/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $141, (A)
08/15/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Gold Refractor Carlos Correa AU RAW, $710, (A), 26/50
08/18/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Wave Refractor Carlos Correa AU 10/10, $1280, (A)
08/18/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 10/10, $382, (A)
08/18/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $233, (A)
08/20/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Wave Refractor Carlos Correa AU 10/10, $1140, (A)
08/20/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Gold Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9/10, $625, (BO), 33/50
08/20/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Gold Refractor Carlos Correa AU RAW, $600, (BO), 29/50
08/20/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $122, (A)
08/22/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Gold Refractor Carlos Correa AU RAW, $632, (A), 24/50
08/24/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Gold Refractor Carlos Correa AU RAW, $675, (A)
08/25/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $425, (A)
08/25/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Red Refractor Carlos Correa AU RAW, $2150, (A)
09/02/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $229, (A), 198/500
09/03/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $115, (A)
09/04/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9/10, $243, (A)
09/04/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $421, (BO)
09/04/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Gold Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9/10, $545, (A), 19/50
09/05/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Wave Refractor Carlos Correa AU 10/10, $1050, (A)
09/05/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9/10, $232, (A)
09/10/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $355, (A), 039/150
09/10/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Refractor Carlos Correa AU 10/10, $925, (BO), 139/150
09/10/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $158, (A)
09/11/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9/10, $244, (A), 071/150
09/11/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Purple Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $2671, (A), 02/10
09/12/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Gold Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $700, (BO)
09/14/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9/10, $60, (A)
09/14/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $127, (BIN)
09/14/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $200, (BO)
09/15/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $111, (A)
09/15/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $102, (A)
09/15/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Blue Refractor Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $850, (BO), , near pristine?
09/22/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $105, (A)
09/22/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 9.5/10, $107, (A)
09/24/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Carlos Correa AU 10/10, $279, (A)
09/25/2013, 2013 Bowman Chrome Refractor Carlos Correa AU 10/10, $554, (A)

[Bravesfan25]

Man do I wish I still had my 2013 Blue Ref auto of correa. I kick myself after seeing the recent sales of his stuff.

[caflisch78]

BGS 9.5 for 496 ends in 3 hours.

where is this?

[Pejarox7620]

I don't understand why it would go for that high....There are a ton of BINs for cheaper..

[MeetJSquared]

I don't understand why it would go for that high....There are a ton of BINs for cheaper..

This...

I'd guess there are a lot of people who simply ignore BINs. I'm quite stunned at his prices. But not for one second do I regret selling the autos I had of him when I did (at call-up). For every one like Correa, there's at least 10 that will plummet. Good for those who are making even more money on it now, but you won't hear most stories about how much people lost on failed investments.

[paokai]

I just sell one on the bay for 5 days auction yesterday. Now it goes 280.00.

[cyndeeg3]

Just ended on ebay, ungraded Correa bowman chrome auto for $ 445.00 and bidders all had very high feedback. So is Correa headed for Mike Trout levels or possibly more ? He is a shortstop, just 20 years old and is having a far superior start to his career than Mike Trout or almost anyone ever. He keeps getting better each month and the power numbers are crazy good. All the reports on his defense at short are from outstanding to amazing, so I guess he is not moving off short anytime soon, that's for sure. I think he compares to a young A-Rod but better defensively. So could his chrome auto be headed for $1000 ?

base auto?

[anm2231]

I'd never buy a raw chrome off eBay if you want to get it graded...chances are most likely it is not 9.5 quality otherwise the seller would've gotten it graded....

For the seller to put gradeable in the title and in the description to put see scan for condition is no good for me...

I'm sure that's probably why it went a bit higher cause someone thinks its gradeable...well sure all cards are gradeable, but it may not be the grade you want

[xbignick]

http://i.imgur.com/A8Ac23d.png
http://i.imgur.com/HMpbswh.png


Regardless, a better start which even depends on definition guarantees nothing.

[bulljh]

I'd never buy a raw chrome off eBay if you want to get it graded...chances are most likely it is not 9.5 quality otherwise the seller would've gotten it graded....

For the seller to put gradeable in the title and in the description to put see scan for condition is no good for me...

I'm sure that's probably why it went a bit higher cause someone thinks its gradeable...well sure all cards are gradeable, but it may not be the grade you want

I have 2 Correa base autos that are most likely 9.5/10's but I just don't grade that much. If I do, it's going to be on low numbered stuff. There could be other who just don't grade at all. I wouldn't assume they are hiding something if they sell a card raw.

[bloodwings19]

I think Correa went really high is because he is showing glove that I didn't know he had and I'm a Stros fan. I sold my BGS base and BGS refractor at $300 and $500 respectively just weeks ago. I was expecting a Baez, Polanco, A.Russell, or J.Soler drop, but it won't happen. If the Stros make the playoffs, Correa prices will be in Trout territory.

[Bhenry4]

Maybe if he goes on a BJ Upton like tear will his autos get that high.

[seabass97166]

Trout base are pushing $2000 and refractors are pushing $3000.

Correa is an absolute beast but he has a lot of ground to make up - and even when his prices continue to rise so will Trout.

It will take a few years if he does catch him. 1a and 1b

[imbluestreak23]

There is still money making opportunities with Correa. I'm not gutsy enough to put up the cash for Chrome Autos, however purchasing lots of 2013 chrome base...placing those in a PSA 10 holder could result in a serious return by the end of the year or early spring training next year.

[asujbl]

I love Correa - not debating his talent level and/or ceiling

But Baseball will forever confuse me.

I can pay $500 for a Correa 9.5/10 or I can have a 9.5/10 of Goldschmidt, Machado, and still have $100 in my pocket?

Easy choice.

[jmscoggin]

I love Correa - not debating his talent level and/or ceiling

But Baseball will forever confuse me.

I can pay $500 for a Correa 9.5/10 or I can have a 9.5/10 of Goldschmidt, Machado, and still have $100 in my pocket?

Easy choice.

This is where I am too. I'm just mystified at why some players go for crazy amounts and some don't. Trout is a no brainer, he is on an all time arc and his prices are mostly justified.

Goldy though goes for peanuts in relation to his talent/stats but the reason why was always blamed on his small market. However, Correa is in a similar market and it hasn't slowed his prices in the least. Machado's issues have been twofold at least in my mind, a lack of power and a lack of durability, both things investors/prospectors and collectors fear.

I think it boils down to flavor of the month, Puig then Tanaka then Abreu then Bryant and now Correa. What is the common theme of the past names? White hot prices and then a sharp and drastic fall off of the cliff when people realize the players are human and a new flavor hits the market. Trout? I don't think he's human.

[rcearley]

This is where I am too. I'm just mystified at why some players go for crazy amounts and some don't. Trout is a no brainer, he is on an all time arc and his prices are mostly justified.

Goldy though goes for peanuts in relation to his talent/stats but the reason why was always blamed on his small market. However, Correa is in a similar market and it hasn't slowed his prices in the least. Machado's issues have been twofold at least in my mind, a lack of power and a lack of durability, both things investors/prospectors and collectors fear.

I think it boils down to flavor of the month, Puig then Tanaka then Abreu then Bryant and now Correa. What is the common theme of the past names? White hot prices and then a sharp and drastic fall off of the cliff when people realize the players are human and a new flavor hits the market. Trout? I don't think he's human.

I think the other thing that affected Machado prices is his attitude and those incidents with Josh Donaldson. He seems to have turned a 180 this year though and very quietly putting together a great season.

[asujbl]

This is where I am too. I'm just mystified at why some players go for crazy amounts and some don't. Trout is a no brainer, he is on an all time arc and his prices are mostly justified.

Goldy though goes for peanuts in relation to his talent/stats but the reason why was always blamed on his small market. However, Correa is in a similar market and it hasn't slowed his prices in the least. Machado's issues have been twofold at least in my mind, a lack of power and a lack of durability, both things investors/prospectors and collectors fear.

I think it boils down to flavor of the month, Puig then Tanaka then Abreu then Bryant and now Correa. What is the common theme of the past names? White hot prices and then a sharp and drastic fall off of the cliff when people realize the players are human and a new flavor hits the market. Trout? I don't think he's human.

Agreed.

I'll be the first to admit I don't follow Baseball (in terms of the hobby specifically) all that closely. I just tend to buy what I want for my PC.

But it will never make sense to me that I could get Goldschmidt for $200 but I'm paying $500 for Correa?

It just doesn't compute in my brain.

[fenwaykid]

Agreed.

I'll be the first to admit I don't follow Baseball (in terms of the hobby specifically) all that closely. I just tend to buy what I want for my PC.

But it will never make sense to me that I could get Goldschmidt for $200 but I'm paying $500 for Correa?

It just doesn't compute in my brain.

Josh Donaldson Rc Autos were just selling for $50 and he looks like a front-runnner for the MVP. Correa is selling for 8x as much :eek:

[starvela]

He was a #1 pick and the stuff that Correa has done through his first 50 games or so is unprecedented, the power, the defensive highlight reel, the maturity, etc. All this at the age of 20, he could slow down, he may not, but so far, he has been just amazing, so he’s prices are justified IMO...

[persona]

Agreed.

I'll be the first to admit I don't follow Baseball (in terms of the hobby specifically) all that closely. I just tend to buy what I want for my PC.

But it will never make sense to me that I could get Goldschmidt for $200 but I'm paying $500 for Correa?

It just doesn't compute in my brain.

Goldschmidt - 27
Correa - 20

It's like comparing Wiggins to Dirk.
Dirk has won a MVP and NBA Championship.
Yet Wiggins prices are much higher than Dirk?
It's all potential and thus far the little dose of Correa seems like the guy is a real deal.
I think he will be top five player in the league for years to come.

[seabass97166]

I love Correa - not debating his talent level and/or ceiling

But Baseball will forever confuse me.

I can pay $500 for a Correa 9.5/10 or I can have a 9.5/10 of Goldschmidt, Machado, and still have $100 in my pocket?

Easy choice.

Yeah but the Correa might be worth $1000 in a few months.

For me it's an easy choice the other way just because of the way the card will jump compared to the other two

[daeve]

^absolutely agree that his prices are justified. I've posted on saber-friendly sites asking if we've ever seen this kind of play for a 20-year-old at a premium defensive position, and in his very first 200 PA in MLB... the only name that could be comparable was Willie Mays. A-rod, Trout, etc = none of them had this kind of start, they all took their lumps and then adjusted. what Correa is doing is incredible.

[asujbl]

Goldschmidt - 27
Correa - 20

It's like comparing Wiggins to Dirk.
Dirk has won a MVP and NBA Championship.
Yet Wiggins prices are much higher than Dirk?
It's all potential and thus far the little dose of Correa seems like the guy is a real deal.
I think he will be top five player in the league for years to come.

It's like comparing Wiggins to Westbrook.

It's nothing like comparing Wiggins to Dirk.

[asujbl]

Yeah but the Correa might be worth $1000 in a few months.

For me it's an easy choice the other way just because of the way the card will jump compared to the other two

I don't disagree.

It's also stupid that Correa might double to $1,000 in a few months and Goldschmidt wouldn't.

That's my point.

[persona]

It's like comparing Wiggins to Westbrook.

It's nothing like comparing Wiggins to Dirk.

You are correct.
Age group would be closer in those two.
I suggested Dirk since he was much more accomplished player.
Wiggins immaculate is much higher than Westbrook exq.
If we went by the same theory as you have applied in baseball,
That price different does not make sense at all yet it seems justified by all collectors.

[asujbl]

You are correct.
Age group would be closer in those two.
I suggested Dirk since he was much more accomplished player.
Wiggins immaculate is much higher than Westbrook exq.
If we went by the same theory as you have applied in baseball,
That price different does not make sense at all yet it seems justified by all collectors.

I know - and I'm not disagreeing with any of that - I know the reality.

It's the same reason I can get 5 Russell Wilson Contenders 9.5/10's for 1 Andrew Luck

Doesn't make it logical

[daeve]

I don't disagree.

It's also stupid that Correa might double to $1,000 in a few months and Goldschmidt wouldn't.

That's my point.

thats the nature of the beast. people pay for future potential.

Goldy is in his prime right now, and he's amazing, but he's not going to be an all-time great... Correa so far is on a HOF-level / record-breaking beginning. And his team might make playoff noise in his rookie season.

[persona]

I know - and I'm not disagreeing with any of that - I know the reality.

It's the same reason I can get 5 Russell Wilson Contenders 9.5/10's for 1 Andrew Luck

Doesn't make it illogical.

That still baffles me and I'm from INDY!
Out of all sports, The Luck contenders price is the most mind boggling thing to me.
I guess with Brady and Peyton on their way out shortly It's Rodgers as an Elite 1A with Luck as the next generation of an Elite 1B QB.

[dkossin]

how much do you think they could reach this season?

[persona]

how much do you think they could reach this season?

He is bound to have a slump ahead of him but if the astros make the playoffs,
The base chrome could reach $600 range easy.

[death2redemptions]

At first the card to pull in 2013 Bowman was Buxton but now everyone wants Correa.

[Hail2TheVictors]

I think Correa went really high is because he is showing glove that I didn't know he had and I'm a Stros fan. I sold my BGS base and BGS refractor at $300 and $500 respectively just weeks ago. I was expecting a Baez, Polanco, A.Russell, or J.Soler drop, but it won't happen. If the Stros make the playoffs, Correa prices will be in Trout territory.

It's going to take the Astros winning the World Series (AND Correa being a big part of that) for him to reach Trout prices this year.

It's amazing to me when people throw around Trout prices as if it took a week for his stuff to get there. I'm big on Correa (have bought quite a bit recently) but let's be realistic here--reaching Trout prices is going to take him playing well in the playoffs, and the Astros winning the WS.

Otherwise, it wouldn't happen until next year at the earlier (IMO).

[seabass97166]

It's going to take the Astros winning the World Series (AND Correa being a big part of that) for him to reach Trout prices this year.

It's amazing to me when people throw around Trout prices as if it took a week for his stuff to get there. I'm big on Correa (have bought quite a bit recently) but let's be realistic here--reaching Trout prices is going to take him playing well in the playoffs, and the Astros winning the WS.

Otherwise, it wouldn't happen until next year at the earlier (IMO).

Trout's Base 9.5 is selling for $2300+

Even if the above scenarios happened - Correa won't be sniffing those prices any time soon. And by the time he does close the gap significantly, Trout will rise too...so it will take years playing at an MVP level (in my opinion)

[BoxBreaker72]

They are on a steady climb right now.

I can see raws peaking at 800ish with a good playoff showing.

[ridgerider]

I think people will buy and buy based on speculation ( and beat the game before they are in the thousands) creating a false market and increase demand, raising the prices a couple of hundred from what they are now. But I think he needs another solid season before his prices get there.

[Bars and Bar]

They will continue to go up. :)

Carlos Correa hit the most home runs ever for a shortstop in his first 50 games.

[Hail2TheVictors]

Trout's Base 9.5 is selling for $2300+

Even if the above scenarios happened - Correa won't be sniffing those prices any time soon. And by the time he does close the gap significantly, Trout will rise too...so it will take years playing at an MVP level (in my opinion)

If the Astros win the WS, and he plays a large part as I outlined, his prices could definitely reach Trout. Will they? Hard to honestly say, but they definitely could.

One thing that is important to note is that Trout hasn't done a darned thing in the playoffs, he's had to build his prices up with great seasons (MVPs, etc). It's yet to be seen what will happen when a guy like Correa leads/carries his team to the WS (as a rookie). All bets are off, because that is a bit unprecedented with with today's landscape of prospect cards.

[msterling21]

This post and discussion alone probably added 10-20%. Nice way to pump. :)

[FLMARLIN]

This is where I am too. I'm just mystified at why some players go for crazy amounts and some don't. Trout is a no brainer, he is on an all time arc and his prices are mostly justified.

Goldy though goes for peanuts in relation to his talent/stats but the reason why was always blamed on his small market. However, Correa is in a similar market and it hasn't slowed his prices in the least. Machado's issues have been twofold at least in my mind, a lack of power and a lack of durability, both things investors/prospectors and collectors fear.

I think it boils down to flavor of the month, Puig then Tanaka then Abreu then Bryant and now Correa. What is the common theme of the past names? White hot prices and then a sharp and drastic fall off of the cliff when people realize the players are human and a new flavor hits the market. Trout? I don't think he's human.

I get the not wanting to blow $500 on a kid who could become another name in the long line of busts, but I've got to disagree with a couple of these statements.

Goldy isn't a fair comparison at all because, as mentioned previously, Correa is 20 and he is 27. Goldy has only had 3 all star-caliber seasons under his belt. I expect him to be a great hitter for a long time to come, but even if he meets those expectations he is still a first baseman with a late start. Correa is doing a magnificent job in the field at a premium position. Could Goldschmidt go down as one of the greatest players ever? No. It just can't happen. And purely because of his age, Correa has that potential (even though the odds of it happening are astronomical).

Machado is a bit tougher, and I'd lead toward the fact that he's underpriced. He's now gained that injury prone rep you mentioned and also has been depicted as a hot head a number of times. At the end of the day though, he's really young and seems to have found his power stroke...so yeah...underpriced with some bad reputations.

The flavor of the month thing is especially wrong to me though. I'll run through why for each guy you mentioned.

Tanaka - It isn't fair to use a pitcher in the first place. I'm now thoroughly convinced that most pitchers will succumb to injury and not pitch a full career. Tanaka was no exception. He also debuted at age 25... almost too late to hit that "all time great" recognition possibility.

Abreu - First baseman who debuted at 27...nothing more needs to be said.

Bryant - As long as Bryant keeps progressing his hitting (over the next few years) his cards will stay sky high. He's years older than Correa, much less impressive in his debut year, and not very good in the field. Even with all that, a hot month could send his cards back up to where they were earlier this year.

Puig - His cards were the "flavor of the month" for quite a while, and for good reason. He was making flashy plays in the field and crushing the ball for a big market team. His sabermetrics kept telling me that his #s were far too good to be true but that didn't stop him from winning me my fantasy league. The problem with him lies in his inability to maintain success. Puig has came crashing down to earth with very "eh" numbers last year and bad ones this season. After all that his autos are still pretty expensive. Regardless, it isn't fair to compare Correa to him until Correa's numbers take a sharp decline in consecutive seasons. They very well could take that dip, which is why I don't blame anyone for not buying him right now, but all things considered (age, maturity, former players' and coaches' thoughts on them) I'd say it's less likely than it was for Puig that it occurs.

[shayscards79]

I just sold three 2013 sterling autos for $55 a piece and they are still literally going up it seems like every day. Granted I still made a lot on them.. but I'm hoping they don't hit $350 like Trouts or I'm going to be pissed.

[Cubs_rock21]

Correa is not an America Born player so his cards will never reach Trout levels. IDK why but that def. matters when it comes to card prices.

[steelers]

Correa is not an America Born player so his cards will never reach Trout levels. IDK why but that def. matters when it comes to card prices.

Yeah, that Albert Pujols guy cards never amounted to anything ... Lol

[caflisch78]

If the Astros win the WS, and he plays a large part as I outlined, his prices could definitely reach Trout. Will they? Hard to honestly say, but they definitely could.

One thing that is important to note is that Trout hasn't done a darned thing in the playoffs, he's had to build his prices up with great seasons (MVPs, etc). It's yet to be seen what will happen when a guy like Correa leads/carries his team to the WS (as a rookie). All bets are off, because that is a bit unprecedented with with today's landscape of prospect cards.

I'm certainly not attacking you but I cannot support this at all. Trout hasn't done a darn thing in the playoffs, that is 100% truthful. 2 ASG MVP's, 1 ROY, 1 MVP, 3 Silver Sluggers. Correa will win ROY, but where is the rest of his inventory to project any value to match Trout? I think it's foolish to think one playoff appearance and a ROY warrant comparisons to Trout.

[Izzo]

Correa is not an America Born player so his cards will never reach Trout levels. IDK why but that def. matters when it comes to card prices.

Would be interesting to see if this holds out in interviews he's very well spoken not really any hint of an accent like with other foreign born players. He took classes at a very early age to develop his English speaking specifically to deal with the English speaking media. You would think he's lived here his whole life if you didn't know he was from PR at least compared to others that have come before him.

Now if it's just because he's not white then that another story all together.

[tedwilliamsfan]

At first the card to pull in 2013 Bowman was Buxton but now everyone wants Correa.

I was thinking about this yesterday. Everyone had to have Buxton chrome auto's, now it has switched over to Correa auto's. I wonder who will be next to explode in price? Could be Buxton again if he can stay healthy and put up some numbers in the big leagues.

[bulljh]

I was thinking about this yesterday. Everyone had to have Buxton chrome auto's, now it has switched over to Correa auto's. I wonder who will be next to explode in price? Could be Buxton again if he can stay healthy and put up some numbers in the big leagues.

My guess would be Giolito

[MeetJSquared]

I was thinking about this yesterday. Everyone had to have Buxton chrome auto's, now it has switched over to Correa auto's. I wonder who will be next to explode in price? Could be Buxton again if he can stay healthy and put up some numbers in the big leagues.

Which would make 2013 Bowman jump even more in price. Buxton has gone down since injuries. It would make a nice 1-2 punch from that years' draft if Buxton can just get going, much less do what Correa is doing.

[ninjacookies]

Correa is not an America Born player so his cards will never reach Trout levels. IDK why but that def. matters when it comes to card prices.

Puig and Darvish both say hi. (they both sold for as much if not more than similar american born phenoms of their positions during their first years). IMO, you couldn't be more wrong.

[deltapi1049]

Puig and Darvish both say hi. (they both sold for as much if not more than similar american born phenoms of their positions during their first years). IMO, you couldn't be more wrong.

Dont forget Abreu.

[Hail2TheVictors]

I'm certainly not attacking you but I cannot support this at all. Trout hasn't done a darn thing in the playoffs, that is 100% truthful. 2 ASG MVP's, 1 ROY, 1 MVP, 3 Silver Sluggers. Correa will win ROY, but where is the rest of his inventory to project any value to match Trout? I think it's foolish to think one playoff appearance and a ROY warrant comparisons to Trout.

You're fine man, didn't take your post as attacking at all.

I'm not sure if you read my post though? I didn't say that a playoff appearance and ROY would warrant Trout price comparisons.

I specifically said that him being heavily involved/leading the team to a WS title is something that is unprecedented in the new prospect landscape. I can't remember someone being called up, and in that same year having a big year and leading his team to the WS title (while having a chrome auto, etc). That scenario is not likely, but if it happens who is to say where his prices land?

My point was that Trout hasn't tapped into the playoffs as being a springboard for his card prices. He hasn't done anything in the playoffs at all. He has established himself through some monster seasons, MVP's, etc. But I think Correa has the ability to match Trout prices if he excels in the playoffs, and helps lead the Astros to a WS. I specifically said, multiple times, that this is only possible if they win the WS.

[Cubs_rock21]

Puig and Darvish both say hi. (they both sold for as much if not more than similar american born phenoms of their positions during their first years). IMO, you couldn't be more wrong.

Oh sorry I think you missed the part where I said he will never reach Trout levels. PM me when his base auto 9.5 is over 2K......

[Cubs_rock21]

Correa is not an America Born player so his cards will never reach Trout levels. IDK why but that def. matters when it comes to card prices.

Yeah, that Albert Pujols guy cards never amounted to anything ... Lol

Puig and Darvish both say hi. (they both sold for as much if not more than similar american born phenoms of their positions during their first years). IMO, you couldn't be more wrong.

Dont forget Abreu.


Make sure you all read the bolded letters....That is all....
Bowman chrome autos in 2001 were much more shortprinted BTW

[broadway6]

Being a card newbie I feel like I've learned a lot by this thread. Now if I only had a crystal ball.

[shayscards79]

Being a card newbie I feel like I've learned a lot by this thread. Now if I only had a crystal ball.

I hope the take away wasn't that collectors are racist.

[death2redemptions]

I hope the take away wasn't that collectors are racist.

We've already been told that once not that long ago.

[broadway6]

I hope the take away wasn't that collectors are racist.



Everyone loves green

[dkossin]

u think prices will stay this way?

[daeve]

I just sold three 2013 sterling autos for $55 a piece and they are still literally going up it seems like every day. Granted I still made a lot on them.. but I'm hoping they don't hit $350 like Trouts or I'm going to be pissed.

i sold my one chrome auto way too early, but i've been buying platinum rather than sterling, much nicer card imo. nice horizontal design and refractor-like finish. i believe it will be his best secondary auto [chrome is always king, obv]

[gemelitopr]

Guys Correa is the future of mlb baseball, already he has break records no one breaks in more than 90 years old his just 20 years old gold glove player 5 tools player he can run hi can hit and hit for power I remember those bowman chromes base auto bgs 9.5 selling for 90.00 few years ago now they are at 450.00 and 500.00 and they will go up up and up when the Astros go to playoff

[pcfriarmet]

Sold my sterling for 30. FML

[HOFAutoRookies]

Guys Correa is the future of mlb baseball, already he has break records no one breaks in more than 90 years old his just 20 years old gold glove player 5 tools player he can run hi can hit and hit for power I remember those bowman chromes base auto bgs 9.5 selling for 90.00 few years ago now they are at 450.00 and 500.00 and they will go up up and up when the Astros go to playoff


They never sold for $90 or I would have bought a ton. He and Bux were always close. These cards have gone up $300+ in less than two months.

[Chrome3434]

I get the not wanting to blow $500 on a kid who could become another name in the long line of busts, but I've got to disagree with a couple of these statements.

Goldy isn't a fair comparison at all because, as mentioned previously, Correa is 20 and he is 27. Goldy has only had 3 all star-caliber seasons under his belt. I expect him to be a great hitter for a long time to come, but even if he meets those expectations he is still a first baseman with a late start. Correa is doing a magnificent job in the field at a premium position. Could Goldschmidt go down as one of the greatest players ever? No. It just can't happen. And purely because of his age, Correa has that potential (even though the odds of it happening are astronomical).

Machado is a bit tougher, and I'd lead toward the fact that he's underpriced. He's now gained that injury prone rep you mentioned and also has been depicted as a hot head a number of times. At the end of the day though, he's really young and seems to have found his power stroke...so yeah...underpriced with some bad reputations.

The flavor of the month thing is especially wrong to me though. I'll run through why for each guy you mentioned.

Tanaka - It isn't fair to use a pitcher in the first place. I'm now thoroughly convinced that most pitchers will succumb to injury and not pitch a full career. Tanaka was no exception. He also debuted at age 25... almost too late to hit that "all time great" recognition possibility.

Abreu - First baseman who debuted at 27...nothing more needs to be said.

Bryant - As long as Bryant keeps progressing his hitting (over the next few years) his cards will stay sky high. He's years older than Correa, much less impressive in his debut year, and not very good in the field. Even with all that, a hot month could send his cards back up to where they were earlier this year.

Puig - His cards were the "flavor of the month" for quite a while, and for good reason. He was making flashy plays in the field and crushing the ball for a big market team. His sabermetrics kept telling me that his #s were far too good to be true but that didn't stop him from winning me my fantasy league. The problem with him lies in his inability to maintain success. Puig has came crashing down to earth with very "eh" numbers last year and bad ones this season. After all that his autos are still pretty expensive. Regardless, it isn't fair to compare Correa to him until Correa's numbers take a sharp decline in consecutive seasons. They very well could take that dip, which is why I don't blame anyone for not buying him right now, but all things considered (age, maturity, former players' and coaches' thoughts on them) I'd say it's less likely than it was for Puig that it occurs.



None of them seemed to figure it out. So much hype put into these players. All there prices eventually dropped. Veterans don't get the credit they deserve. I guess it's all about the players age.

[Bars and Bar]

They never sold for $90 or I would have bought a ton. He and Bux were always close. These cards have gone up $300+ in less than two months.

I have multiple Correa chrome autograph purchases from my 2013 Ebay history at $60 each.

[HOFAutoRookies]

I have multiple Correa chrome autograph purchases from my 2013 Ebay history at $60 each.


For 9.5 Gems? Or raw?

[Bars and Bar]

For 9.5 Gems? Or raw?

Raw refractor autographs

[HOFAutoRookies]

Raw refractor autographs


Damn lol. I remember searching for graded base. Didn't search raw or colors. But that's crazy. I would have bought so many :( like I did with Trout.

[persona]

I wonder if the tigers are actually going to pitch to him before the game is over.

[bobthewondercat]

I specifically said that him being heavily involved/leading the team to a WS title is something that is unprecedented in the new prospect landscape. I can't remember someone being called up, and in that same year having a big year and leading his team to the WS title (while having a chrome auto, etc).

How quickly people forgot Andruw Jones.

[rcearley]

How quickly people forgot Andruw Jones.

Andruw Jones didn't have a chrome rookie auto, otherwise it would have been outrageously priced. His Bowman's best refractor I think was the card to get.

[imbluestreak23]

How quickly people forgot Andruw Jones.

Was also gonna say Miguel Cabrera...but no Chrome. Still, Traded was a very equal comparison IMO.

[jasonadkins]

I specifically said that him being heavily involved/leading the team to a WS title is something that is unprecedented in the new prospect landscape. I can't remember someone being called up, and in that same year having a big year and leading his team to the WS title (while having a chrome auto, etc). That scenario is not likely, but if it happens who is to say where his prices land?


Bobby Jenks and Jacoby Ellsbury. I think Jenks 2002 Chrome AUTO hit $50, Ellsbury close to $200 if I recall correctly.

[bobthewondercat]

Andruw Jones didn't have a chrome rookie auto, otherwise it would have been outrageously priced. His Bowman's best refractor I think was the card to get.

Can you imagine? A likeable international five-tool 19-year-old bursts on the scene for a popular franchise, crushes MLB pitching while playing Gold Glove defense for a team that wins the pennant, then sets World Series records with majestic HRs...?

If that doesn't get a base chrome auto to $1K+, what would?

His career continued on that path for several years before he entered his very early and very steep decline phase. He was a surefire HOF to most.

[Bars and Bar]

Prices are $450+ on base 9.5/10's and rising!

[jewcer2k5]

Prices are $450+ on base 9.5/10's and rising!

Craziness. Every one is ending near that price.

[JWBlue]

Is there any reason why all of these are BGS graded and not PSA?

Is BGS preferred by younger collectors?

[death2redemptions]

Is there any reason why all of these are BGS graded and not PSA?

Is BGS preferred by younger collectors?

BGS for modern cards, PSA for vintage.

Also with BGS you have a chance for that elusive Pristine grade.

[TheVolta]

Is there any reason why all of these are BGS graded and not PSA?

Is BGS preferred by younger collectors?

The autograph grade probably.

[DetectiveChrome]

Biggest regret in the hobby: selling my 2013 Bowman Carlos Correa Topps 100 Die Cut 1/1 Atomic Ref auto

[cardsharkk]

BIGGEST REGRET: Red Chrome Auto /5, for $4k... Passed up from a member here on blowout bc he wanted me to send it gift.... wanted 4250 direct not as gify.... I only had 4k, so i passed, card was bought next morning for 6k on ebay.... Now what 10k or more?

[persona]

BIGGEST REGRET: Red Chrome Auto /5, for $4k... Passed up from a member here on blowout bc he wanted me to send it gift.... wanted 4250 direct not as gify.... I only had 4k, so i passed, card was bought next morning for 6k on ebay.... Now what 10k or more?

I would assume an easy $10k card now.
Since we are sharing biggest regret stories.
Number of years ago I was at a show and someone brought Handful of chrome to my table, I looked it over and I ended up getting the Rizzo and Castro orange for around $500 or so a piece.
The Same seller also suggested I purchase orange chrome for $500
My exact words were 'man f*ck Mike Trout! I never heard of that clown before'
So yeah... I have nightmares now...

[Gio47]

Prices are $450+ on base 9.5/10's and rising!

Unreal, this guy is really on his way to full blown Trout levels. God forbid Houston finds a way to world series.

[JWBlue]

$1K by Spring Training.

[phasesout]

I'm a big Carlos fan, don't get me wrong, but I think this bandwagon is already getting a bit out of hand. His numbers aren't much better than Sano aside from homers (and are in fact worse in a handful of stats), and some number of his HR wouldn't have been so in any park but Minute Maid. Even a fractional loss of power would keep a lot of his HRs inside the fences.

I'm not saying these prices won't continue to climb though. If he continues to contribute to the Astros (especially into the playoffs) they'll definitely continue to surge, but I think a bit of restraint wouldn't hurt if you're looking to buy this stuff for the long haul. The streets of this hobby are littered with the bodies of former ROY.

[Redsmitty03]

I'm a big Carlos fan, don't get me wrong, but I think this bandwagon is already getting a bit out of hand. His numbers aren't much better than Sano aside from homers (and are in fact worse in a handful of stats), and some number of his HR wouldn't have been so in any park but Minute Maid. Even a fractional loss of power would keep a lot of his HRs inside the fences.

I'm not saying these prices won't continue to climb though. If he continues to contribute to the Astros (especially into the playoffs) they'll definitely continue to surge, but I think a bit of restraint wouldn't hurt if you're looking to buy this stuff for the long haul. The streets of this hobby are littered with the bodies of former ROY.



I'd check the statement about minute maid park. I don't have facts, just watched every ball game and maybe 2 or 3 were questionable. Like I said, someone else would need to look it up, but minute maid is a tougher park than most believe

[steelers]

I'm a big Carlos fan, don't get me wrong, but I think this bandwagon is already getting a bit out of hand. His numbers aren't much better than Sano aside from homers (and are in fact worse in a handful of stats), and some number of his HR wouldn't have been so in any park but Minute Maid. Even a fractional loss of power would keep a lot of his HRs inside the fences.

I'm not saying these prices won't continue to climb though. If he continues to contribute to the Astros (especially into the playoffs) they'll definitely continue to surge, but I think a bit of restraint wouldn't hurt if you're looking to buy this stuff for the long haul. The streets of this hobby are littered with the bodies of former ROY.


One MAJOR factor you left out, DEFENSE. Correa is a shortstop and playing gold glove caliber defense at the toughest position in the game. Not to mention he is only 20 years old .... There is not another shortstop in the big leagues like him, nobody combines his level of offense and defense at shortstop. Not to mention Correa is stealing a lot of bases as well. He is night and day better than Sano .... Even if Correa regresses it's still not even close

[razorsharp]

Correa is not a better hitter than Sano.

[phasesout]

One MAJOR factor you left out, DEFENSE. Correa is a shortstop and playing gold glove caliber defense at the toughest position in the game. Not to mention he is only 20 years old .... There is not another shortstop in the big leagues like him, nobody combines his level of offense and defense at shortstop. Not to mention Correa is stealing a lot of bases as well. He is night and day better than Sano .... Even if Correa regresses it's still not even close

I was basing that argument on offensive numbers because that's what the hobby seems to react to most. I agree, Carlos has a better toolbox than Sano. I just think that from a hobby perspective most of the hype surrounds his offense and if that were to wane his prices may as well, even in the face of superior defense. This thread is about Correa's prices, not who should be ROY.

[Ty Hope]

Holy crap! This may be the first time keeping a prospect may pay off...
(pulled and graded)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f290/cantstopthehope2/PROSPECTS/DSC05729_zpsa7422786.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/cantstopthehope2/media/PROSPECTS/DSC05729_zpsa7422786.jpg.html)

[purejd86p]

Holy crap! This may be the first time keeping a prospect may pay off...
(pulled and graded)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f290/cantstopthehope2/PROSPECTS/DSC05729_zpsa7422786.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/cantstopthehope2/media/PROSPECTS/DSC05729_zpsa7422786.jpg.html)

That is sweet!

[JWBlue]

On a tangent....

Would a PSA 10 of this card be worth less than a BGS 9.5?

[blackandgold]

Sold a couple base chromes for $8 Sold one last night for $10

[daeve]

I was basing that argument on offensive numbers because that's what the hobby seems to react to most. I agree, Carlos has a better toolbox than Sano. I just think that from a hobby perspective most of the hype surrounds his offense and if that were to wane his prices may as well, even in the face of superior defense. This thread is about Correa's prices, not who should be ROY.

eh, the last huge hobby SS wasn't that great of a powerhouse bat... granted, he wore a yankee jersey, but so have a lot of other great players that don't sell for anywhere near what the Captain gets. All it takes is some great play, some intangibles, a winning club, and some good early numbers to get noticed. Jeter had this in the 90s and Correa could be that to this young and very good Astros team.

[phasesout]

eh, the last huge hobby SS wasn't that great of a powerhouse bat... granted, he wore a yankee jersey, but so have a lot of other great players that don't sell for anywhere near what the Captain gets. All it takes is some great play, some intangibles, a winning club, and some good early numbers to get noticed. Jeter had this in the 90s and Correa could be that to this young and very good Astros team.

I think any new hot offensive player will become favored over someone with all of those other tools and that's not unlikely to happen here. Historically that's how it's been. It took a long while for Jeter's hobby value to reach the level it did compared to his more offensive contemporary A-Rod. In the mid 90s A-Rod was leagues ahead of Jeter as far as hobby appreciation went, and it wouldn't have even been close if not for the Yankees great success in the postseason. Jeter won ROY in 1996, but A-Rod just about won the MVP award for his offensive contributions. Whose rookie card do you think was more valuable that year?

I'm saying unless Correa not only maintains but IMPROVES his offensive numbers in the next year or has a huge role in delivering Houston a NL/WS championship, these prices won't sustain themselves. It is entirely possible, and perhaps even likely that some other player will come out of the gate hot on offense next year and take the hobby wind out of Correa's sails. There is still room to grow before then though--the postseason this year, a big spring training, even a hot April, but Correa is not the sure thing people are making it sound like in this thread. There will always be some hot new offensive player.

I can't help but be reminded of this sort of speculation when threads like this (or when Bryantmania was going on) come up:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--XbvjP93E--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1170549665493248293.png

[jeton439]

Correa just hit a ball out of the Astros Stadium. It was crushed!!

[angels2705]

Was searching Correa threads and came upon this one and found myself reading through the pages. Now that ST is upon us and Correa has gone on to win ROY, what is everyone's speculation on this kid? Think he'll go through the dreaded sophomore slump?

I'm an Angels fan, first and foremost, but since the season ended, I've been intrigued on the rookie season CC put together last year. I saw him play last year at the Big A and also watched him play in the minors for the Jethawks. I must admit, I'm becoming a big fan of his and the promise of his talent. I hope I can pick up a few more autos of his before they explode, because from what I've seen, I see another, dare I say Trout thing going on... Only thing hindering it being that he plays in Houston. But even that may not stop his momentum.

[Splendid]

That's absolutely mind boggling. Granted, it should be selling for more than KB....

Uh.... No.

[bobthewondercat]

Correa will need to have a really good season to maintain 450/raw chrome AU.

Also comparisons to Trout are a little apple vs orange bc 2009 Draft had a lower print run.

[exitmusicblue]

And the latest graded 9.5 went for 401, looks like... too bad for the folks who bought raws at 450 earlier. Prospecting's peaks and valleys :doh::doh:

[3cats]

And the latest graded 9.5 went for 401, looks like... too bad for the folks who bought raws at 450 earlier. Prospecting's peaks and valleys :doh::doh:

Too bad for today, but probably a good buy in a few weeks.

[angels2705]

Too bad for today, but probably a good buy in a few weeks.

This.

January... Best time to buy baseball. Nothing like that Xmas hangover to make some folks pull out some gems from their stashes trying to fund some of the spending done for the holidays. Perfect time to buy low. As soon as ST comes, those prices won't hold. I've seen it year after year. Like stated above... Gotta ride through those valleys.

[death2redemptions]

And the latest graded 9.5 went for 401, looks like... too bad for the folks who bought raws at 450 earlier. Prospecting's peaks and valleys :doh::doh:

Completely disagree. It's January...ALL cards are at their absolute lowest possible prices. Come March they'll likely be around 500-600 or higher.

[Bhenry4]

Uh.... No.

I'd rather have Correa, whatevs. I realize that KB plays for the Cubs.

[Splendid]

I'd rather have Correa, whatevs. I realize that KB plays for the Cubs.

I'm neither a Cubs or Astros fan. Both are great young players..... But Bryant, much like Harper and Trout before him, is a transcendent, generational player. However, both are going to have long stellar careers.

If Byron Buxton can manage to stay healthy for an entire season, next year we'll be talking about why we didn't load up on his prospect autos. Amazing talent when 100% healthy.

[exitmusicblue]

Completely disagree. It's January...ALL cards are at their absolute lowest possible prices. Come March they'll likely be around 500-600 or higher.

Completely disagree with your complete disagreement. Why buy a raw for 450 at its peak when one could've waited for the offseason...

[wmelchior628]

I wont chime in on who will be the better long time prospect, if either Correa or or Bryant will become generational players like Trout (and possibly Harper) because we all know what has happened to most of the last "can't miss" prospects and ROY players.

That said: the time to unload your Correa auto's might be Spring training this year. The chances of him becoming Trout or even Harper level are pretty slim. He is an amazing talent yes - but there are sophomore slumps, injuries, pitchers that find weaknesses, etc.

My biggest fear with Correa is what happened to Bryant. KB became the Topps poster child in 2015 and they released autos in every single product. There aren't many collectors out there that haven't gotten at least 1 in some product. Trout started slow and Topps didn't over produce his auto's. By the time he got tons of Hobby love he was on his way to superstardom and most of his vet autos were still fairly rare. KB is in EVERY product.

Correa signed an exclusive agreement with Topps. This means that I am sure he will have a RC auto in every single product in 2016. The market is probably going to be flooded with his ink by the end of the season. Not only that - but they made an auto of him in 2015 Topps Chrome, but didn't get it back in time and did not include it in the set. They even tweeted a pic of the signed Superfractor asking fans what they should do with it. Chances are they will insert it in 2016 Topps Chrome (like Conforto and Williams in 2015 Bowman Chrome) or insert them across various 2016 Topps products (like the 2013 KB among various 2014 Bowman products) as those precedents have been set.

At this point, the only way I see Correa or KB hitting Trout values is either of them going above and beyond what Trout did. Being even more historic players that he is. Anything less than a slew of MVP awards and/or breaking some all-time record - it just wont be possible for them to hit those huge numbers.

[TarjetasBéisbol]

I'm neither a Cubs or Astros fan. Both are great young players..... But Bryant, much like Harper and Trout before him, is a transcendent, generational player. However, both are going to have long stellar careers.

If Byron Buxton can manage to stay healthy for an entire season, next year we'll be talking about why we didn't load up on his prospect autos. Amazing talent when 100% healthy.

I love the young talent that is coming up the past few years but isn't it way too soon to call someone a "transcendent, generational player" after just one season? I want to see guys like Bryant have a stellar career but I try not to make them "superstars" in my mind until they put together a few good years. I remember back in the 80s when guys like Greg Jeffries, Travis Lee, Joe Charboneau, Chris Shelton and many others shined for a moment, or were over-hyped only to fade away into baseball history.

[Ottomatic]

Completely disagree with your complete disagreement. Why buy a raw for 450 at its peak when one could've waited for the offseason...

He was saying the 9.5 for 401 in January was a good deal.

[wmelchior628]

Some Recent ROY Winners:

AL: Will Myers, Jeremy Hellickson, Neftali Perez, Andrew Bailey, Huston Street, Bobby Crosby, Angel Berroa, Erik Hinske, Kazuhiro Sasaki, Ben Grieve, Mart Cordova, Bob Hamelin, Pat Listach, Greg Olson, Walt Weiss

NL: Craig Kimbrel, Chris Coghlan, Geovany Soto, Jason Bay, Dontrelle Willis, Jason Jennings, Rafael Furcal, Scott Williamson, Todd Hollandsworth, Jerome Walton, Chris Sabo, Todd Worrell

There were some people who became stars and got long term hobby love - Trout, Harper, Pujols, Ichiro, Posey, etc - but even the some of the biggest fizzled like Abreu, Beltran, Garciaparra, Pedroia, Mondesi, Verlander, Longoria, Braun, Wood, Howard, HanRam, etc. Even some of the above names were all-stars - but expectations need to be tempered - especially with the Trout comparisons (and the upcoming glut of product I mentioned)

[Ottomatic]

Some Recent ROY Winners:

AL: Will Myers, Jeremy Hellickson, Neftali Perez, Andrew Bailey, Huston Street, Bobby Crosby, Angel Berroa, Erik Hinske, Kazuhiro Sasaki, Ben Grieve, Mart Cordova, Bob Hamelin, Pat Listach, Greg Olson, Walt Weiss

NL: Craig Kimbrel, Chris Coghlan, Geovany Soto, Jason Bay, Dontrelle Willis, Jason Jennings, Rafael Furcal, Scott Williamson, Todd Hollandsworth, Jerome Walton, Chris Sabo, Todd Worrell

There were some people who became stars and got long term hobby love - Trout, Harper, Pujols, Ichiro, Posey, etc - but even the some of the biggest fizzled like Abreu, Beltran, Garciaparra, Pedroia, Mondesi, Verlander, Longoria, Braun, Wood, Howard, HanRam, etc. Even some of the above names were all-stars - but expectations need to be tempered - especially with the Trout comparisons (and the upcoming glut of product I mentioned)

Most of those guys didn't have rookie years anywhere near Correa, and most weren't as young. Could he fizzle out value wise? Sure it's possible. But to me he's one of the safest bets to remain valuable in a while.

[wmelchior628]

Most of those guys didn't have rookie years anywhere near Correa, and most weren't as young. Could he fizzle out value wise? Sure it's possible. But to me he's one of the safest bets to remain valuable in a while.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that Correa is going to be a monster - he has quickly become one of my favorite players. Not many of those guys can say that have the fastest bad speed (by a fair margin) of anyone in MLB (stat I saw during the playoffs, not 100% sure how true it is).

I fully expect Correa to be really really good for a long time. I am just afraid at how many autos will be on the market by the end of 2016, combined with the fact that he might turn into Nomar Garciaparra. He was arguably better with more hobby love than Jeter or ARod for a few years in the mid-90s.

[Ottomatic]

Don't get me wrong, I agree that Correa is going to be a monster - he has quickly become one of my favorite players. Not many of those guys can say that have the fastest bad speed (by a fair margin) of anyone in MLB (stat I saw during the playoffs, not 100% sure how true it is).

I fully expect Correa to be really really good for a long time. I am just afraid at how many autos will be on the market by the end of 2016, combined with the fact that he might turn into Nomar Garciaparra. He was arguably better with more hobby love than Jeter or ARod for a few years in the mid-90s.

Oh yeah, definitely agree with that. Never know which guys the hobby is going to collectively get fixated on. It feels like he has some staying power, but you never know when people might move onto the next big thing.

[daeve]

I wont chime in on who will be the better long time prospect, if either Correa or or Bryant will become generational players like Trout (and possibly Harper) because we all know what has happened to most of the last "can't miss" prospects and ROY players.

That said: the time to unload your Correa auto's might be Spring training this year. The chances of him becoming Trout or even Harper level are pretty slim. He is an amazing talent yes - but there are sophomore slumps, injuries, pitchers that find weaknesses, etc.

My biggest fear with Correa is what happened to Bryant. KB became the Topps poster child in 2015 and they released autos in every single product. There aren't many collectors out there that haven't gotten at least 1 in some product. Trout started slow and Topps didn't over produce his auto's. By the time he got tons of Hobby love he was on his way to superstardom and most of his vet autos were still fairly rare. KB is in EVERY product.

Correa signed an exclusive agreement with Topps. This means that I am sure he will have a RC auto in every single product in 2016. The market is probably going to be flooded with his ink by the end of the season. Not only that - but they made an auto of him in 2015 Topps Chrome, but didn't get it back in time and did not include it in the set. They even tweeted a pic of the signed Superfractor asking fans what they should do with it. Chances are they will insert it in 2016 Topps Chrome (like Conforto and Williams in 2015 Bowman Chrome) or insert them across various 2016 Topps products (like the 2013 KB among various 2014 Bowman products) as those precedents have been set.

At this point, the only way I see Correa or KB hitting Trout values is either of them going above and beyond what Trout did. Being even more historic players that he is. Anything less than a slew of MVP awards and/or breaking some all-time record - it just wont be possible for them to hit those huge numbers.

2016 will be his 2nd year autos. He just won ROTY, how can his cards next year qualify as RC's?

[Izzo]

2016 will be his 2nd year autos. He just won ROTY, how can his cards next year qualify as RC's?

I was thinking the same thing ... I know there where some 2015 autos that didn't make it into 2015 product but is it enough to put in every single product ?

[death2redemptions]

Completely disagree with your complete disagreement. Why buy a raw for 450 at its peak when one could've waited for the offseason...

I wasn't even arguing that. Of course now is the time to buy. Now is the time to buy any and all prospect/ex-prospect cards. What I'm disagreeing with is the fact that once March comes around they will once again be selling for the same prices that they once were selling for.

[hche]

Correa has RC logo auto in 2015 under High Tek, Strata, TTT, and Immaculate (if you count no logo). He WILL NOT have RC logo auto in 2016. On the other hand, since he is now hot, Topps may SSSSSSSP his autos in 2016 products.

[Jaypers]

Correa has RC logo auto in 2015 under High Tek, Strata, TTT, and Immaculate (if you count no logo).

Bowman's Best as well.

[Ottomatic]

Bowman's Best as well.

Heritage High number and 51'

[exitmusicblue]

I wasn't even arguing that. Of course now is the time to buy. Now is the time to buy any and all prospect/ex-prospect cards. What I'm disagreeing with is the fact that once March comes around they will once again be selling for the same prices that they once were selling for.

Duh..... who said they wouldn't? :cool: Come back to our fantasy thread, we miss ya !

[hche]

Bowman's Best as well.

Should be. But it is a redemption, it will be funny if Topps forgets to put the logo on it. LOL!

Heritage High number and 51'

Yeah, forgot those 2. :p

[Izzo]

Of the 15 RC logo autos which would y'all bet on??? I've been hearing the Heritage HH SP would do really well and the TC when it dose come out

[wmelchior628]

Sorry, didn't mean he would have RC autos in every 2016 product, more that he would have autos in every product with the exclusive deal he signed. That was just me typing too fast and not proofreading.

As far as what RC auto to 'bet on' I think that will depend on what Topps does with the stack of 2015 Topps Chrome autos it has, and how many of them there are. I don't like it, but the 13 BCDP Auto of Bryant has become 'the one' even though it was an insert and his 14 Bowman Auto had the '1st Bowman Card' logo. I would think that long term the 15 TC will be the best Correa RC auto.

Other than that or if they don't release that one (but I assume they will because of the twitter pic) I would guess Heritage High number.

[phil]

Bowman's Best as well.


Since there aren't any in Bowman's Best wouldn't be that surprising to see Topps putting base Bowman's Best autos in 2016 products.

Not impossible that they could also put 2015 Topps Chrome RC autos/color in 2016 Topps Chrome, which would be insane.

[phil]

Should be. But it is a redemption, it will be funny if Topps forgets to put the logo on it. LOL!

I think Topps already tweeted a pic of an unsigned Best Of Correa (was it a base?) and it had a RC logo

[death2redemptions]

Duh..... who said they wouldn't? :cool: Come back to our fantasy thread, we miss ya !

You didn't hear? Hollywood excommunicated me from the thread.

[Ottomatic]

Of the 15 RC logo autos which would y'all bet on??? I've been hearing the Heritage HH SP would do really well and the TC when it dose come out

Heritage to me is far and away his best rookie logo auto. That's the beauty of Correa, he came up kind of late so he doesn't have a huge amount of rookie cards to deflate values, sort of like Trout, though Trout had even less I believe.

[Splendid]

I love the young talent that is coming up the past few years but isn't it way too soon to call someone a "transcendent, generational player" after just one season? I want to see guys like Bryant have a stellar career but I try not to make them "superstars" in my mind until they put together a few good years. I remember back in the 80s when guys like Greg Jeffries, Travis Lee, Joe Charboneau, Chris Shelton and many others shined for a moment, or were over-hyped only to fade away into baseball history.

Yes..... Fair enough. I should have qualified that better..... I firmly believe that he'll turn out to be a special player. He's a tremendous talent, but more importantly, he's well grounded. Thus far, he's proven(unlike Joc Pederson), that he can make significant mid-season adjustments to keep up with the game.

Then again, he could fade into mediocrity..... happens all the time to 'can't miss' prospects. So far, so good.....