**Official 2015 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Season Thread**

[Eckstein197]

WHO'S EXCITED!????

I'm so pumped for this year, I'm ready to rip my shirt in half.

I know the first preseason game was a little rough but it was Jameis' first game. He played well at the end of the first half as he got into a rhythm.

I think the Bucs will have a great year. Calling it now

10-6 and win the division! MARK IT DOWN

The offense will be good as long as Koetter implements his quick passing attack. Mostly because the OLine will struggle. Especially with starting 2 rookies it looks like. I think Martin returns to form as a bell cow with a healthy dose of Charles Sims mixed in as a receiver out of the backfield. I would love to see some Mike James mixed in. Mike Evans and VJ will kill it. Jameis just needs to throw the ball near them. I'm hoping ASJ makes the leap this year.

Defense will be stout especially at linebacker. Kwon will shock people I guarantee it. Just need to get some more pass rush. Banks has looked good in camp


FIRE THE CANNONS LET'S GO BUCS

[MC80_LCM]

Always excited for the start of each year. I think this year hinges so much on the OLine and the DLine. I think if Jameis has time he can be solid as a rookie. I was pretty worried about Dotson going down in the first game but it doesn't look like that was a season ender. Hopefully the 2 rookies can step in and perform. It won't take much to be an upgrade over last year.

If the Dline can get pressure then the whole defense should be vastly improved. I've heard nothing but good things about Kwon coming out of camp. He seems like the prototypical LB that the Bucs will turn into a highly successful player. I'll be interested to see how the secondary plays. I'm looking forward to seeing how Banks plays this year. I still have questions about the safety tandem but I thought Barron and Goldson were the worst safety tandem in the league last year so it has to get better.

I don't know about a division win but I can see a 7-9 or 8-8 record. My main goal is for Winston to show that he can be the QB of the team for the next 10-15 years. Its been so frustrating having a revolving door at that position for pretty much as long as I've been a fan.

[majestik101]

I'm excited too. Wow 10-6 AND winning the division?? I don't know if I'll go that far. I say they have a better season than last year, and could go at least 8-8 though even that may be stretching it.

Basically I am keeping my expectations in check based on a new QB and a new OC. I am interested to see how Jameis does in a pro style offense. He did look shaky in the first pre-season game, but he should settle in as the season gets closer.

The O-Line got a little worse after losing Demar Dotson for 8 weeks. The O-Line better protect Jameis Winston and open up those lanes for Doug Martin who needs to return to his 2012 form. I am actually more optimistic for him this year, and don't discount Charles Sims who I think will have a break out year. Mike Evans will be stellar this year. V-Jax will be good as well, Jameis has two big targets to throw too, and ASJ and Kenny Bell should get some extended play time as well. The defense is where this team will excel. Gerald McCoy, Kwon Alexander, Alteraun Verner, Lavonte David, Johnathan Banks that is a formidable defense right there.

GO BUCS!!

[PocketPool]

Bucs,....eh. Maybe 8-8 which might win the division or at least be only a game or two behind at the most. I see the NFC South about where the NFC West was years back when all the teams in the division were bad to just ok.

[fullmetal]

I think it will be another challenging year. The offensive line is terrible. Jameis can't do anything without them. I expect 2-3 seasons before he becomes a star.

The defense isn't much better than the offensive line.

Another top 8 draft pick next year.

[twisty571]

I have a couple Bud's down in Tampa and they want Glennon to start and wanted Doug Martin released last year lol

[Nyfancam01]

by 10-6 i'm assuming you meant 6-10???

[bwallstreet]

I don't see any possible way we win 10 games or even 9.

I think we win between 5-8 games.

Our secondary is in rough shape, all our safeties are bordlerline starters. Leonard Johnson is a terrible player and should be cut, he is our starting nickel. The only CB behind Banks and Verner worth anything is Moore, Mike Jenkins is terrible. That Secondary plus a well below average group of DEs are going to really hurt the defense.

Our LB core is Top 3 or Top 5, our DT group is the best in the NFL in my opinion, but the weak links in our D will keep it from being as dominant as it should be.

On offense we have a ton of potential, Jameis Winston, Mike Evans, Vincent Jackson, Doug Martin, Austin Seferian-Jenkins...but it is too much to ask Jameis in his rookie year to carry this team to the playoffs with our defensive, offensive line and special teams issues.

We need to worry about getting Jameis comfortable in the NFL and this offense while continuing his development as a player. We need to worry about improving our chemistry and developing our young talent(Donovan Smith, Ali Marpet, Kwon Alexander, Austin Seferian-Jenkins).

We are 1-2 years away from being a playoff team and a serious contender year in and year out. We have the building blocks on both offense(Winston, Evans) and defense(David and McCoy) to be extremely good in the future.

[starfox]

6 - 10 and this is coming from a big Jameis fan.

[Birdmandig]

I think it will be another challenging year. The offensive line is terrible. Jameis can't do anything without them. I expect 2-3 seasons before he becomes a star.

The defense isn't much better than the offensive line.

Another top 8 draft pick next year.

As much as I would love for them to make the Playoffs, lived in Tampa my entire 30 years of life Bucs/Noles fan since I found football as a young kid '93 Ill guess.

But I see the Defense being the real weakness as opposed to Jameis growing pains, McCoy and David will be a nice core but they cant play DB...

Lovie Smith is a good man, but his Cover/Tampa 2 system is sooo played out, and we dont have the options to move to a press man system, and Ronde is long gone..

I think vegas odds were 50-1 , 100 for 5K on the Bucs to make playoffs a few weeks back..

[bwallstreet]

As much as I would love for them to make the Playoffs, lived in Tampa my entire 30 years of life Bucs/Noles fan since I found football as a young kid '93 Ill guess.

But I see the Defense being the real weakness as opposed to Jameis growing pains, McCoy and David will be a nice core but they cant play DB...

Lovie Smith is a good man, but his Cover/Tampa 2 system is sooo played out, and we dont have the options to move to a press man system, and Ronde is long gone..

I think vegas odds were 50-1 , 100 for 5K on the Bucs to make playoffs a few weeks back..

I don't think it's the system that is the problem, we just don't have the guys to make it as effective as it can be.

Licht and Lovie knew the offense was in shambles after Schiano was done. That's why all but one of our draft picks the past 2 years have been offensive players. It has done the trick but our D has suffered because of it.

[Birdmandig]

I don't think it's the system that is the problem, we just don't have the guys to make it as effective as it can be.

Licht and Lovie knew the offense was in shambles after Schiano was done. That's why all but one of our draft picks the past 2 years have been offensive players. It has done the trick but our D has suffered because of it.

Schiano got alot of heat, but he had our run defense like #1 in league if I recall..

Seems like if he wasn't such an assbag to the players when he started, such as controlling meeting room temps and treating them like college kids (respect-wise)..

Ill bet he would've lasted longer here...

[Birdmandig]

I don't think it's the system that is the problem, we just don't have the guys to make it as effective as it can be.

Licht and Lovie knew the offense was in shambles after Schiano was done. That's why all but one of our draft picks the past 2 years have been offensive players. It has done the trick but our D has suffered because of it.

Totally agree, why didn't we make a play For Eagles CB Boykins when he got cut a few weeks back..

Side note, I do like the Colts O-linemen we just got to replace Dotson...

I also hold out hope martin can once again become the muscle hamster we grew to love a few years back...

[bwallstreet]

Totally agree, why didn't we make a play For Eagles CB Boykins when he got cut a few weeks back..

Side note, I do like the Colts O-linemen we just got to replace Dotson...

I also hold out hope martin can once again become the muscle hamster we grew to love a few years back...

I've never lost faith or given up on Doug personally. The O-line and offense as a whole was a train wreck the last 2 years. I still saw the same skills and passion that made him so good.

This year he lost some weight, they heavily invested in the o-line and finally got a top notch QB. Doug will have a heck of s season if he stays healthy.

[bwallstreet]

Bucs' coach Smith will call defensive plays this season | Tampa Bay Times (http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bucs/bucs-coach-smith-will-call-defensive-plays-this-season/2242100)

Lovie Smith taking over calling defensive plays from Leslie Frazier.

[fullmetal]

I'd like to see a career year for Doug Martin. Maybe he can take some pressure off Winston as a rusher and with short dump off passes.

I was not thrilled with his drafting, but he surprised me when healthy.

[MC80_LCM]

Bucs' coach Smith will call defensive plays this season | Tampa Bay Times (http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bucs/bucs-coach-smith-will-call-defensive-plays-this-season/2242100)

Lovie Smith taking over calling defensive plays from Leslie Frazier.

I never really got the point of this. Why have a DC, if you are going to install the Defense you want in call the plays as well.

I must say, having Winston on the team increases the amount of coverage the Bucs get, which I certainly like. Last weeks game was on NFL Network and they have the Monday Night in a couple days.

[bwallstreet]

I never really got the point of this. Why have a DC, if you are going to install the Defense you want in call the plays as well.

I must say, having Winston on the team increases the amount of coverage the Bucs get, which I certainly like. Last weeks game was on NFL Network and they have the Monday Night in a couple days.

I'm not shocked. Don't forget we tried to bring in Rod Marinelli to be our DC and Frazier would have been demoted to DB coach. Lovie just wants more control on what plays are called when, he still respects what Frazier can do coaching the players, building defensive gameplans and his input in meetings.

[MC80_LCM]

Games like yesterday are what gives me hope as a Bucs fan. Obviously Winston rolling and ankle and Evans tweaking a hammy aren't ideal but neither seems like anything serious. I was very pleased with Winston. I thought he made some really nice throws and for the most part made really good decisions not only on his throws but on audibles at the line. The throw to Sheppard and the throw that Wright dropped were absolutely beautiful. Martin looked really good. Ran with power and was pretty shifty. The Oline looked OK. With two rookies starting and Dotson out you expected they would struggle a bit. At times they looked really good and and times not so much. My main concern was how many offensive penalties they had. That was a problem they had last year so its a little worrisome that it hasn't been fixed. Glennon looked solid too. While I don't think he will ever be a star QB, he will eventually leave to start somewhere else. Until that happens you can make a case that he's one of the best backup QBs in the league.

The defense looked like the defense of old. Johnson looked very solid and McCoy looks unblockable at times. Alexander looks like a star in the making. Still not sold on the CB depth. If Mike Jenkins has to play a significant amount of time I'm worried. As a whole though I was thrilled. Sacks and Turnovers are not something I've grown accustomed to over the past few season so to see a handful of both of those was really refreshing.

Overall a very successful night and I'm glad it was a nationally broadcast game. For at least the next week things are looking up.

[Birdmandig]

Man I really hope last night is a sign of things to come, it was like night and day vs the Vikes game. Both sides of the ball looked much crisper besides the obvious penalties..

Games like yesterday are what gives me hope as a Bucs fan. Obviously Winston rolling and ankle and Evans tweaking a hammy aren't ideal but neither seems like anything serious. I was very pleased with Winston. I thought he made some really nice throws and for the most part made really good decisions not only on his throws but on audibles at the line. The throw to Sheppard and the throw that Wright dropped were absolutely beautiful. Martin looked really good. Ran with power and was pretty shifty. The Oline looked OK. With two rookies starting and Dotson out you expected they would struggle a bit. At times they looked really good and and times not so much. My main concern was how many offensive penalties they had. That was a problem they had last year so its a little worrisome that it hasn't been fixed. Glennon looked solid too. While I don't think he will ever be a star QB, he will eventually leave to start somewhere else. Until that happens you can make a case that he's one of the best backup QBs in the league.

The defense looked like the defense of old. Johnson looked very solid and McCoy looks unblockable at times. Alexander looks like a star in the making. Still not sold on the CB depth. If Mike Jenkins has to play a significant amount of time I'm worried. As a whole though I was thrilled. Sacks and Turnovers are not something I've grown accustomed to over the past few season so to see a handful of both of those was really refreshing.

Overall a very successful night and I'm glad it was a nationally broadcast game. For at least the next week things are looking up.

[fullmetal]

I was in the ER and missed the game. Highlights seemed to show an incredible defense, which surprised me. Winston had rave reviews. The box score penalties stuck out as a big problem.

[Eckstein197]

Last night as a great night. Team played great except for the penalties. Marpet handled Atkins numerous times. Winston and Evans with some minor stuff is scary but there is still a couple of weeks until the season officially begins

[MC80_LCM]

For those that didn't see the game here is every Winston completion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AcSwzT-Rzs

The injuries were a bit scary but I got the impression that if it was a regular season game Evans and Winston probably would have continued to play.

[gingerscards]

Good game last night, Glennon was solid, I am not 100% sold on Winston yet, rolling his ankle is not good sign with it being pre season, the pace of the game will step up big come season time. Will he adjust??

[maddbeaver]

My main concern was how many offensive penalties they had. That was a problem they had last year so its a little worrisome that it hasn't been fixed.

^^^This right here! This to me was a real big reason they were a 2-14 team last year. Hard to sustain drives when you keeping shooting yourself in the foot! Just think of how many points that first team could have put up last night without the penalties.

Other than that, they looked very good. Martin impressed me the most. A few times he turned something into nothing, squirting through holes. Winston also looked good. Would have liked to see him connect on one of those deep balls to Evans, but liked the shots.

[majestik101]

Last night's game gave me much more optimism. Kwon Alexander looked great and so did DJ Swearinger. Actually their D gave me pause by how good they looked. Jameis looked great as well, those throws he made were crisp. Would like to see less stumbling around after the snap, he needs to work on his foot work a bit, but what I saw gave me reason to believe they could be a much better team. And I loved how after the game Jameis deflected those dumb pesky reporters asking him about his ankle, blah blah blah, he answered back as a mature focused and excited young man who wants nothing more than to help TB get wins.

But those penalties though. Those need to stop.

[bwallstreet]

We signed Connor Barth back, they clearly aren't happy with Patrick Murrays performance.

[majestik101]

We signed Connor Barth back, they clearly aren't happy with Patrick Murrays performance.

This is a welcome signing. Patrick Murray is inconsistent.

[MC80_LCM]

Murray was solid last year but Barth is pretty close to elite. The article I just read said it will all come down to if whoever they keep as a punter can handle kickoff duties, as that is where Barth struggles.

[majestik101]

Well, Jameis looked horrible last night - Only a 32 passing rating. Sacked 4 times, and a really bad interception. Both Jameis and his O-Line have a lot of work to do, the season is only 2 weeks away, and they need to do a much better job protecting their rookie QB. Part of the problem is, they are starting two rookie O-Linemen. Big concerns in Tampa Bay for me right now.

Doug Martin looked great, and so did V-Jax. I am more skeptical in their kicking game now, Connor Barth didn't show me he was any better than their previous kicker.

[bwallstreet]

Well, Jameis looked horrible last night - Only a 32 passing rating. Sacked 4 times, and a really bad interception. Both Jameis and his O-Line have a lot of work to do, the season is only 2 weeks away, and they need to do a much better job protecting their rookie QB. Part of the problem is, they are starting two rookie O-Linemen. Big concerns in Tampa Bay for me right now.

Doug Martin looked great, and so did V-Jax. I am more skeptical in their kicking game now, Connor Barth didn't show me he was any better than their previous kicker.

Yeah I don't know what your problem with Jameis is, I'm not sure you really know what you're looking at or what the coaching staff is trying to do.

1. No Mike Evans, as they are letting him rest so he is 100% week 1.
2. Playing on Monday and then again on Saturday is a super quick turnaround and they didn't really gameplan for the 3rd preseason game like you normally would.
3. They have not been babying him in the preseason. They want him to get as many learning experiences now when the games don't count as possible.

It was exactly what you would expect for a rookie coming off a short week without the best offensive player against a top 10 defense that plays a style he's not seen in the NFL yet. Minnesota, Cincinnati and us all play 4-3, this was his first time seeing a 3-4.

Why don't you give him a chance to actually get acclimated to the NFL before you start dogging him, I expect that crap from Winston haters, I don't expect it from Bucs fans who should know better. The guy is saying all the right things and being a professional on and off the field, everything will come together in time.

[majestik101]

Yeah I don't know what your problem with Jameis is, I'm not sure you really know what you're looking at or what the coaching staff is trying to do.

1. No Mike Evans, as they are letting him rest so he is 100% week 1.
2. Playing on Monday and then again on Saturday is a super quick turnaround and they didn't really gameplan for the 3rd preseason game like you normally would.
3. They have not been babying him in the preseason. They want him to get as many learning experiences now when the games don't count as possible.

It was exactly what you would expect for a rookie coming off a short week without the best offensive player against a top 10 defense that plays a style he's not seen in the NFL yet. Minnesota, Cincinnati and us all play 4-3, this was his first time seeing a 3-4.

Why don't you give him a chance to actually get acclimated to the NFL before you start dogging him, I expect that crap from Winston haters, I don't expect it from Bucs fans who should know better. The guy is saying all the right things and being a professional on and off the field, everything will come together in time.

First of all, I am not dogging him. And I am not a "Winston Hater" so I don't get why you need to throw me into that category. You need to just chill. Ok

So, no Mike Evans. So what. I'm talking about Jameis. And while he was a great QB in college, he needs to get used to the Pro Style of Offense and Defense, and he looked very uncomfortable in the pocket last night, and at times seemed scared to make passes. That can be blamed on the inexperience of the Offensive Line. They must protect him in order for him to be efficient. Now you can take some of those blitzes away by running the ball - and Doug Martin looks great, but running the ball will only get this team so far. My fear with Jameis, is that defenses will just blitz him all day, and he will be flushed out of the pocket and make a throw on the run for a pick 6, or worse, try to run and get clocked in the open field. He has a big target on his back, defenses are going to get after him, he needs to learn how to slide, recognize when the blitz is coming, call audibles, and that O-Line needs to pick up the blitzes.

[Semifan1]

In order for Winston to succeed in TB that line is going to have to block somebody first. If they make the offense something like New Englands with a quick 5-7 yard pass to set up the run it could work, but they can't have any 5-7 step drop backs right now. The line just can't protect long enough.

[chitownbears22]

Jameis' biggest problem is, and will be, Lovie Smith. He is a head coach who will ignore offensive problems and fix the D. I watched him do it in Chicago for almost 10 years. Get ready to hear "we like the guys we have" about 500 times in reference to the OL. This guy started Jamarcus Webb and Frank Omiyale for multiple years, even though they graded out as the worst LTs in the league.

[bwallstreet]

Jameis' biggest problem is, and will be, Lovie Smith. He is a head coach who will ignore offensive problems and fix the D. I watched him do it in Chicago for almost 10 years. Get ready to hear "we like the guys we have" about 500 times in reference to the OL. This guy started Jamarcus Webb and Frank Omiyale for multiple years, even though they graded out as the worst LTs in the league.

He's drafted 1 defensive player in 2 years. Jason Licht is running the draft. 4 wr, 2 og, 2 ot, 1 qb, 1 te, 1 rb, 1 fb, 1 lb.

[chitownbears22]

He's drafted 1 defensive player in 2 years. Jason Licht is running the draft. 4 wr, 2 og, 2 ot, 1 qb, 1 te, 1 rb, 1 fb, 1 lb.

I am talking about decision making, and general caring about the offense. Lovie actually said in interviews that he is not active in how the offense functions, he lets his OC do that. The HC said he is not active in the offense day-to-day. That type of oversight and lack of caring for the offense speaks volumes. Hopefully Tampa has an OC that is capable, and a GM willing to spend money to shore up shortcomings. Lovie will not lobby for offensive help.

He isn't a bad coach, he did great things in Chicago, but he also wasn't a coach that I was sad to see leave. Hopefully he learns from his past shortcomings.

[bwallstreet]

First of all, I am not dogging him. And I am not a "Winston Hater" so I don't get why you need to throw me into that category. You need to just chill. Ok

So, no Mike Evans. So what. I'm talking about Jameis. And while he was a great QB in college, he needs to get used to the Pro Style of Offense and Defense, and he looked very uncomfortable in the pocket last night, and at times seemed scared to make passes. That can be blamed on the inexperience of the Offensive Line. They must protect him in order for him to be efficient. Now you can take some of those blitzes away by running the ball - and Doug Martin looks great, but running the ball will only get this team so far. My fear with Jameis, is that defenses will just blitz him all day, and he will be flushed out of the pocket and make a throw on the run for a pick 6, or worse, try to run and get clocked in the open field. He has a big target on his back, defenses are going to get after him, he needs to learn how to slide, recognize when the blitz is coming, call audibles, and that O-Line needs to pick up the blitzes.

I wasn't calling you a Winston hater, I was saying you're a Bucs fan and I expect Bucs fans to know that he wasn't being nurse fed like Mariota. That Cleveland tape is the best learning opportunity that Jameis has had to date. If it didn't happen then it would have happened when 8t mattered. Plus the short turn around and no Mike didn't help. The O Line has to and will play better. EDS was extremely rusty, Cherilus will be starting most likely in the regular season not Fragel.

[starfox]

The Bucs' line is bad, but has been fair at times. The interception Jameis threw on Saturday was ridiculous, and from what I was told, there could have been another. I am not a Bucs' fan, but I am a Seminole, so you know what I think about Jameis. He needs to know when to just throw the ball away or take the sack. I know he is a fighter, but sometimes you just can't take the chance. I hope he is getting all (or most of) the bad out of his system now because (most) people are just itching to call him a bust. He also needs to get his eyes re-checked because I wonder if he is always seeing what he needs to see. I already expect it to be an up and down year for Jameis and the Bucs, but man, I want him to win the head-to-head against Mariota. Winston needs to clean up some things.

[bwallstreet]

Tim Wright traded to Detroit, saw this coming when we claimed him.

[majestik101]

Confirmed by ESPN. Jameis Winston has sprained ankle -will miss rest of pre-season.

[majestik101]

I wasn't calling you a Winston hater, I was saying you're a Bucs fan and I expect Bucs fans to know that he wasn't being nurse fed like Mariota. That Cleveland tape is the best learning opportunity that Jameis has had to date. If it didn't happen then it would have happened when 8t mattered. Plus the short turn around and no Mike didn't help. The O Line has to and will play better. EDS was extremely rusty, Cherilus will be starting most likely in the regular season not Fragel.

No problem - We're good. ;)

As for your points - you bring up some good things, they aren't nursing him - and I tend to think that that is the best environment for Jameis to work in, he probably told his coaches not to baby him to throw him in to the wolves so to speak, to challenge him. He just seems like the kind of guy who would do that. Big ups to him if that's the case. The O-Line needs vast improvement from what I saw. I am really hoping that Charles Sims gets more of the ball too, having just Doug Martin run the ball is fine, but Sims has great skills as well.

[bwallstreet]

No problem - We're good. ;)

As for your points - you bring up some good things, they aren't nursing him - and I tend to think that that is the best environment for Jameis to work in, he probably told his coaches not to baby him to throw him in to the wolves so to speak, to challenge him. He just seems like the kind of guy who would do that. Big ups to him if that's the case. The O-Line needs vast improvement from what I saw. I am really hoping that Charles Sims gets more of the ball too, having just Doug Martin run the ball is fine, but Sims has great skills as well.

There is definitely a role for Sims week in and week out, there's no need to overuse Doug and waste Sims talent but Doug need a heavy majority of the touches. If I ever see that 1 drive Doug, 1 drive Sims, 1 drive Rainey crap like at the end of the year I will lose it.

I can't wait til we pound Mariota and those Titans Week 1.

[bwallstreet]

Finally the most overpaid player in the NFL has been cut, P Michael "The Thief" Koenen.

Jenna Laine reporting Bucs are unhappy with OL play and are actively pursuing a trade to try and get better on the OL.

[majestik101]

Finally the most overpaid player in the NFL has been cut, P Michael "The Thief" Koenen.

Jenna Laine reporting Bucs are unhappy with OL play and are actively pursuing a trade to try and get better on the OL.

Koenen is gone. Thank Goodness.

O-Line needs a complete overhaul in my opinion. Very foolish for the Bucs not to even pursue an O-Line vet (like Richie Incognito) in the off season.

[Birdmandig]

Koenen is gone. Thank Goodness.

O-Line needs a complete overhaul in my opinion. Very foolish for the Bucs not to even pursue an O-Line vet (like Richie Incognito) in the off season.

Or even Evan mathis..

Or how about not cutting Penn, Zuttah both of whom played extremely well last year for raiders and ravens...and Joseph (dont understand how he is not on a tam was he that bad?)

Then we bring in Collins form Bengals pay him a boat load and he sucks, glad he is gone but still questionable moves on the oline..

[majestik101]

TB has agreed to terms with two time pro bowl and 10 year vet Tim Jennings at Cornerback. Not a bad pick up.

That kicker they had out there, Brindza looked good too. Da'Quon Bowers left the game though, hopefully he's ok.

Season Opener September 13 versus Tennessee.

[bwallstreet]

Kenny Bell put on season-ending IR.

I really like him, see a bright future for him in Tampa. Sucks it wont start this year but hopefully he uses the time to get fully healthy and then become the best WR he can be for next year. I like that it will keep him in the building.

[majestik101]

Just saw that too. It's good that the Bucs will retain him. Also saw that Da'Quon Bowers was cut. Any reasoning behind this move? I thought he was decent, certainly not too much of a loss, since the Buc's Defense is pretty deep.

[cadillac540]

Kind of surprised by Bowers getting cut as well. And I disagree on us being deep enough to release him, when's the last time we've had a good consistent pass rush? We're deep at DT position I guess, but the DE position has been a struggle. I loved how humble he was about the situation though, I'll be rooting for him where ever he ends up.

[pgisback]

Honestly can't wait to see Winston play. He was one of the best pro style pocket passers I have seen outside of Luck in college. Going to be fun.

[bwallstreet]

Kind of surprised by Bowers getting cut as well. And I disagree on us being deep enough to release him, when's the last time we've had a good consistent pass rush? We're deep at DT position I guess, but the DE position has been a struggle. I loved how humble he was about the situation though, I'll be rooting for him where ever he ends up.

I think you are confused because you're a bit behind. He has been playing DT not DE, they already decided he was incapable of being an end for the Bucs last year.

[cadillac540]

I think you are confused because you're a bit behind. He has been playing DT not DE, they already decided he was incapable of being an end for the Bucs last year.

If you're incapable of playing DE for Tampa, you don't deserve any roster spot. lol

[bwallstreet]

If you're incapable of playing DE for Tampa, you don't deserve any roster spot. lol

He's terrible, I doubt he ever plays in another regular season game ever again for any team.

[cadillac540]

Nice little quick read here: Patriots started Spygate against the Buccaneers, but couldn't win - Bucs Nation (http://www.bucsnation.com/2015/9/8/9275477/patriots-started-spygate-against-the-buccaneers-but-couldnt-win)

[cadillac540]

He's terrible, I doubt he ever plays in another regular season game ever again for any team.

You're probably right. And they probably won't sign him, but he did work out for the Panthers.

[cadillac540]

Also, looking like Mike Evans may not play week 1.

[majestik101]

Also, looking like Mike Evans may not play week 1.

Yep just saw this too. So Evans is out, Dotson is out, Rookie QB being protected by an O-Line made up of rookies, with a first year Offensive Coordinator and Lovie calling the shots on Defense.

Why do I get the uneasy feeling that we are going to start the season 0-4.

[bwallstreet]

Also, looking like Mike Evans may not play week 1.

Im not sold that he won't play, he's had no setbacks and it wasn't very bad to begin with. If he doesn't play it will be precautionary more than anything.

Yep just saw this too. So Evans is out, Dotson is out, Rookie QB being protected by an O-Line made up of rookies, with a first year Offensive Coordinator and Lovie calling the shots on Defense.

Why do I get the uneasy feeling that we are going to start the season 0-4.

I don't know man, you're consistently down on Jameis, a spurned Mariota supporter perhaps? None of our first 8 opponents are powerhouses. Tennessee, New Orleans, Houston, Carolina, Jacksonville, Washington, Atlanta and New York are all games we should be in and can win on paper. Our team is clearly better than the last 2 years and haven't played 1 regular season game, yet you and others are acting like the sky is falling and we're the 0-16 Lions. Have a little faith and just enjoy the new season bro. This season is a building block for where we want to go, anything more is a bonus.

[majestik101]

Im not sold that he won't play, he's had no setbacks and it wasn't very bad to begin with. If he doesn't play it will be precautionary more than anything.



I don't know man, you're consistently down on Jameis, a spurned Mariota supporter perhaps? None of our first 8 opponents are powerhouses. Tennessee, New Orleans, Houston, Carolina, Jacksonville, Washington, Atlanta and New York are all games we should be in and can win on paper. Our team is clearly better than the last 2 years and haven't played 1 regular season game, yet you and others are acting like the sky is falling and we're the 0-16 Lions. Have a little faith and just enjoy the new season bro. This season is a building block for where we want to go, anything more is a bonus.

Nope not at all. I am a big Winston fan and supporter, so I'm not down on him, I love the kid and what he brings to the team. Just his confidence alone is going to help the team. You gotta love his enthusiasm. It's just that the past 5 or so years has not instilled confidence in me as far as this team is concerned.

But I am keeping my hopes up, yet I also know this team has a recent inescapable history of disappointment. That said, I will be wearing my Jameis Winston Jersey and my Bucs hat and watching each and every game. While not an easy schedule, it is not unreasonable to think that we can make the playoffs. Here's hoping to at least an 8-8 season! I'm on board with that!

[bwallstreet]

Nope not at all. I am a big Winston fan and supporter, so I'm not down on him, I love the kid and what he brings to the team. Just his confidence alone is going to help the team. You gotta love his enthusiasm. It's just that the past 5 or so years has not instilled confidence in me as far as this team is concerned.

But I am keeping my hopes up, yet I also know this team has a recent inescapable history of disappointment. That said, I will be wearing my Jameis Winston Jersey and my Bucs hat and watching each and every game. While not an easy schedule, it is not unreasonable to think that we can make the playoffs. Here's hoping to at least an 8-8 season! I'm on board with that!

I figured that bolded part was the case but was at my daughters soccer practice on my phone and was trying to make it as quick as possible. Mark Dominik is no longer here and he was the main issue. Jason Licht is a former scout and it is really paying dividends in the draft. He's actually investing in the offensive line with big, strong, agile and talented young men. He finally got us a franchise QB and a huge playmaking WR to go with him, locking up GMC and David long term is another great move. The future is bright in Tampa Bay but we will have growing pains and minor setbacks, bound to happen.

I know a lot of fans will feel better after we get a win or two, we just have to keep up the faith and not give up on the good/great players we have and our decision makers who are leading us in the right direction. Someday when Jameis wins his 2nd or 3rd Super Bowl we will look back at this past offseason and be very thankful things went the way they did.

GO BUCS

[majestik101]

I figured that bolded part was the case but was at my daughters soccer practice on my phone and was trying to make it as quick as possible. Mark Dominik is no longer here and he was the main issue. Jason Licht is a former scout and it is really paying dividends in the draft. He's actually investing in the offensive line with big, strong, agile and talented young men. He finally got us a franchise QB and a huge playmaking WR to go with him, locking up GMC and David long term is another great move. The future is bright in Tampa Bay but we will have growing pains and minor setbacks, bound to happen.

I know a lot of fans will feel better after we get a win or two, we just have to keep up the faith and not give up on the good/great players we have and our decision makers who are leading us in the right direction. Someday when Jameis wins his 2nd or 3rd Super Bowl we will look back at this past offseason and be very thankful things went the way they did.

GO BUCS

Well put. The Bucs have certainly worked very hard to escape the shadow of their past, and seem committed to changing things for the better.

GO BUCS!! ---- (I refuse to use their new slogan, "Siege The Day" --- YUCK)

[majestik101]

Breaking News: Mike Evans game time decision. (Hamstring)

[bwallstreet]

Breaking News: Mike Evans game time decision. (Hamstring)

How is that breaking news? It's been discussed all week.

He did practice today which is a good sign.

[majestik101]

How is that breaking news? It's been discussed all week.

He did practice today which is a good sign.

True, it's been discussed, but unless I missed something (which is possible) I don't think ever really confirmed. Yes he did practice today. I fully expect him to play.

[bwallstreet]

True, it's been discussed, but unless I missed something (which is possible) I don't think ever really confirmed. Yes he did practice today. I fully expect him to play.

Not sure if it was confirmed, being a gametime decision is good for the Bucs in a way, gives us the element of surprise either way. Bad for fantasy owners who have their next best option playing at 1:00. We should know around 2:50 pm est Sunday whether he is active or inactive.

I don't think Tennessee has a chance with him out there, I think it's pretty even without him.

[majestik101]

Well, it's Official. Mike Evans not playing today. Per NFL reporter Tiffany Blackmon.

https://twitter.com/tiffblackmon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[cadillac540]

Well, it's Official. Mike Evans not playing today. Per NFL reporter Tiffany Blackmon.

https://twitter.com/tiffblackmon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

no bueno :(

[bwallstreet]

Bucs still gonna get that W, Doug Martin will have s big day and VJAX circa 2012

[majestik101]

Yeah he will be missed, but I expect other players to step up. The Douggernaut, ASJ and V-Jax should be enough to help get the win.

[evileddie]

Let's go Buc's. It would be nice to start the season 1-0 for a change. Sucks that Evans is out after it looked like he would probably end up playing.

[k13]

Great start....

[TASS]

Great start....

Crickets...................................................................................;)

[jova888]

Winston throws a TD.... sell,sell,sell

[HeritageKing]

6 minutes left in the half and I finally hear McCoy's name called. How does Lovie go to the bank with a straight face?

[evileddie]

This is awful. :mad:

[Eckstein197]

I support Jameis, but I did want Mariota instead. Mariota is picking apart this defense

[HeritageKing]

I support Jameis, but I did want Mariota instead. Mariota is picking apart this defense


What defense? Isn't this why we brought in Lovie?

He has no clue.

[bwallstreet]

Winston is not playing good, but there are a lot of issues. Secondary, pass rush, O-line and just all over both sides of the ball. You start to really wonder about Lovie Smith as a HC.

I guess our first game in a new offense with 3 rookies I should expect this but damn.

[MC80_LCM]

Winston is not playing good, but there are a lot of issues. Secondary, pass rush, O-line and just all over both sides of the ball. You start to really wonder about Lovie Smith as a HC.

I guess our first game in a new offense with 3 rookies I should expect this but damn.

I expected some struggles on offense but there really is no excuse for the defense being this bad. If this game is any indication of how the season will go I'm not sure how Lovie survives. Outside of a bunch of season ending injuries this is as bad a start as I could have imagined.

[fullmetal]

I can't remember a team scoring 42 points while only gaining 266 yards.

Buccaneers could certainly be vying for the top pick in next year's draft.

[cadillac540]

Let Lovie go... PLEASE TAMPA

[majestik101]

Well. That was embarrassing.

[oldcardcolector]

Called the mother#@#@#@#@ing #@#@#@#@ out of that one!

[FanboyOfNone]

I really hope the Bucs trade Glennon before he has to start games again for them. Let him shine elsewhere.

Weeden and a 4th Round pick for Glennon, please?

[Eckstein197]

ASJ looked good!

[cadillac540]

I really hope the Bucs trade Glennon before he has to start games again for them. Let him shine elsewhere.

Weeden and a 4th Round pick for Glennon, please?

Weeden. Lol.

[majestik101]

ASJ looked good!

ASJ high stepped it into the end zone. Even as they were down 5 Touchdowns. Further evidence that Lovie Smith needs to go.

Austin Seferian-Jenkins High-Steps into End Zone Despite Being Down 5 TDs | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2566181-austin-seferian-jenkins-high-steps-into-end-zone-despite-being-down-5-tds)

[Eckstein197]

ASJ high stepped it into the end zone. Even as they were down 5 Touchdowns. Further evidence that Lovie Smith needs to go.

Austin Seferian-Jenkins High-Steps into End Zone Despite Being Down 5 TDs | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2566181-austin-seferian-jenkins-high-steps-into-end-zone-despite-being-down-5-tds)


Why does that mean Lovie has to go? Just curious

[majestik101]

What coach is going to allow show-boating when their team is down 35 points?

Just curious.

[Eckstein197]

What coach is going to allow show-boating when their team is down 35 points?

Just curious.

Lovie might be ripping into him today for that. We don't know. It's not like Lovie could stop him as he was high stepping

[bwallstreet]

Lovie might be ripping into him today for that. We don't know. It's not like Lovie could stop him as he was high stepping

Happened last year with the captain Morgan incident, needs to be the last time. Lovie's words from his press conference were "no I don't have a problem with austin scoring touchdowns."

We've got dozens of bigger issues though.

[MC80_LCM]

It was also frustrating to see all the penalties. 12 for 97 yards is an absurd amount. I can live with Winston making some poor decisions or the Oline not playing well, those things were to be expected. If I'm not mistaken they were the most penalized team in the NFL last year and so far nothing has changed. Its hard to put together drives when you are seemingly starting with 1st and 20 or 1st and 15 all the time.

[majestik101]

Happened last year with the captain Morgan incident, needs to be the last time. Lovie's words from his press conference were "no I don't have a problem with austin scoring touchdowns."

We've got dozens of bigger issues though.

Yep - that much is clear. I hope he laid into them hard after the game.

I am not ready to throw in the towel yet, but if the first game was any indication of where this team is going to be, then it will be a very, very long season.

[bwallstreet]

Yep - that much is clear. I hope he laid into them hard after the game.

I am not ready to throw in the towel yet, but if the first game was any indication of where this team is going to be, then it will be a very, very long season.

I'm sure he didn't. I'm sure in a cool, calm, collected manner he said "We're not where we want to be fellas, we'll get this thing fixed" like he always does. I think the lack of passion and emotion comes from the top down, it's not going to get better under this bum. Will they play better than yesterday? Sure, but not much.

Prepare for the Top 5 pick and say hi to Robert Nkemdiche or Ronnie Stanley.

[chitownbears22]

http://students.iam.colum.edu/~lauren.comitor/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/lovie-smith-emotional-chart-thumb-484x774-193650.jpg

[majestik101]

http://students.iam.colum.edu/~lauren.comitor/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/lovie-smith-emotional-chart-thumb-484x774-193650.jpg

Bwahahahaha!!!

Too good. Thanks, that made my day/week.

[bwallstreet]

Mike Evans practiced today, all signs point to him being healthy and playing Sunday.

[majestik101]

Mike Evans practiced today, all signs point to him being healthy and playing Sunday.

Good news. Hope that the QB and receiver core can take advantage of a depleted Saints secondary.

[bwallstreet]

Good news. Hope that the QB and receiver core can take advantage of a depleted Saints secondary.

The offense should look better and put up more than 14, the defense I have no faith in. Saints should get an easy W

[majestik101]

The offense should look better and put up more than 14, the defense I have no faith in. Saints should get an easy W

Yeah, this could be one of those games that the defense winds up losing, even if Winston winds up playing better. Although I expect Gerald McCoy to put some pressure on the QB, but it can't all be on him. That defensive unit needs to play a heck of a lot better. Regardless, Drew Brees should have an easy time finding his receivers downfield. You can bet the Saints don't want to go 0-2 and lose at home.

It also does look like Mike Evans might play, I guess we will all know shortly before game time. I predict final score, 28-17.

And the Bucs start 0-2 to my chagrin.

[majestik101]

Update: Mike Evans will make his 2015 Season Debut today.

LETS GO BUCS!!

[cadillac540]

Nice win there fellas. Of course we racked up the penalties, again....

[bwallstreet]

Rollercoaster. Glad to see Jameis gets his first win at the helm. It was progress on both sides of the ball.

[maddbeaver]

Felt like they wanted to give it away with the fumbles late, but they pulled it out! Still too many dumb penalties, but Jameis looked good and Dougie/Charles ran well! Defense looked nasty for 3 quarters, hope Gerald is not hurt too bad. Go Bucs!

[majestik101]

Great win by the Bucs against a division rival on the road no less. Still waaaay too many penalties given up by the Bucs, but Jameis looked solid out there, except for the fumble, but a win is a win fellas. Bucs win for the first time in New Orleans since 2010.

Update: Gerald McCoy is fine, just strained his shoulder a little. According to Bucs Nation, he's fine.

Gerald McCoy leaves Saints game with arm injury - Bucs Nation (http://www.bucsnation.com/2015/9/20/9361397/gerald-mccoy-leaves-saints-game-with-arm-injury)

Bring on the Texans next week!

GO BUCS!

[Eckstein197]

Fire the cannons

[MC80_LCM]

Obviously WAY more good than bad with this game. I didn't think they really had a chance in this game after how poorly they played last week. This game seemed like the exact type of game that they would have lost the past couple years.

Running game looked solid overall. I would like to see them let Winston air it out a bit more. Hopefully Evans will be fully acclimated by next week so they will take some chances.

The D looked much better too. Solid job against the run and they did a decent job on pressuring Brees.

My only big complaint is once again way too many penalties. Its hard to sustain drives when it seems like they are starting off with 1st and 20 or 1st and 15.

[cadillac540]

I didn't get to watch the game... how did the o-line look?

[bwallstreet]

I didn't get to watch the game... how did the o-line look?

Good, outside of penalties. They were solid in the run game and Winston had adequate time for most of the game. It was surely an improvement for the line as a whole and their was growth from all 5 players individually. Evan Smith went out at one point, not sure if he came back, but there wasn't much of a drop off with Hawley at C, except for a dumb penalty he committed.

[majestik101]

Bucs fall to 1-2.

Kyle Brindza misses 3 FG's. Bobby Rainey fumbles 2 times. It was a very winnable game for the Bucs, so this one hurts.

[bwallstreet]

Bucs fall to 1-2.

Kyle Brindza misses 3 FG's. Bobby Rainey fumbles 2 times. It was a very winnable game for the Bucs, so this one hurts.

Bobby Rainey recovered both his muffed punts, that had nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

Brindza missing 3 FGs and an XP absolutely killed us. We couldn't stop the run at all. The refs were pretty terrible, the offensive pass interference and 2 defensive holding calls were phantom calls which I didn't even see what they possibly could of referred too.

This season is a development season and we just need to see improvement from last year to this year and from Week 1 to Week 17.

Time to be patient.

[majestik101]

Bobby Rainey recovered both his muffed punts, that had nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

Brindza missing 3 FGs and an XP absolutely killed us. We couldn't stop the run at all. The refs were pretty terrible, the offensive pass interference and 2 defensive holding calls were phantom calls which I didn't even see what they possibly could of referred too.

This season is a development season and we just need to see improvement from last year to this year and from Week 1 to Week 17.

Time to be patient.

True, but those muffed punts could have been disastrous if they weren't recovered. He has to protect the ball better.

Agree with you about Brindza. I don't understand how he can make a 58 yard field goal but then miss three fairly routine FG's plus an extra point. There's no wind in a dome. :confused:

I can't blame the refs on this one, the refs will always miss calls or make bad calls. It's just that the game was 10-9 for the longest time, and they should have won. They certainly had their chances.

As long as the team is able to make progress from week to week, then that will be all I can ask.

[bwallstreet]

True, but those muffed punts could have been disastrous if they weren't recovered. He has to protect the ball better.

Agree with you about Brindza. I don't understand how he can make a 58 yard field goal but then miss three fairly routine FG's plus an extra point. There's no wind in a dome. :confused:

I can't blame the refs on this one, the refs will always miss calls or make bad calls. It's just that the game was 10-9 for the longest time, and they should have won. They certainly had their chances.

As long as the team is able to make progress from week to week, then that will be all I can ask.

Jameis threw for 261 yards, his highest total to date. Mike and Jameis developed a chemistry which was great to see. Mike was extremely close to going ham if it wasn't for that phantom pass interference, 50/50 replay and a couple great defensive plays by a top notch group of CBs. OL allowed 7 sacks in the first 2 games, 0 today vs J.J. Watt, Jadeveon Clowney, Vince Wilfork and Whitney Mercilus.

I don't think there is anybody who would argue our performance last week and this week wasn't better than Week 1, though that isn't hard. Honestly I see more hope and bright spots than I saw all of last season. Had our kicker done his job we very well could be 2-1 right now.

Like I said time to be patient and buckle up for the long haul.

[Eckstein197]

This game hurts but plenty of bright spots. Jameis looked pretty good

[MC80_LCM]

This game hurts but plenty of bright spots. Jameis looked pretty good

I didn't watch the game but it worries me that he had a completion percentage under 50%.

How did the Oline look? With Winston throwing the ball 36 times I'm extremely impressed that they didn't give up a sack, especially against Watt.

[bwallstreet]

I didn't watch the game but it worries me that he had a completion percentage under 50%.

How did the Oline look? With Winston throwing the ball 36 times I'm extremely impressed that they didn't give up a sack, especially against Watt.

Stuff like this makes me want to blow up, watch the game or don't have an opinion on the performance. There were multiple drops, non-calls on defensive pass interference and some very good pass break ups on well thrown balls. Anybody who watched the game would know Jameis played well enough to win and the fault lies elsewhere.

You could literally count on one hand the bad throws by Winston in the game.

[majestik101]

I'll admit to not watching the game yesterday. I have Red Zone. They probably had the Bucs game on for a sum total of 11 minutes. :(

But from what I saw, Jameis looked sharp, and the O-Line definitely held their own against JJ Watt. I don't like the fact that the rushing yards were non-existent and that there were still way too many penalties, but it looks like they are improving week to week, which is a good sign.

[bwallstreet]

I'll admit to not watching the game yesterday. I have Red Zone. They probably had the Bucs game on for a sum total of 11 minutes. :(

But from what I saw, Jameis looked sharp, and the O-Line definitely held their own against JJ Watt. I don't like the fact that the rushing yards were non-existent and that there were still way too many penalties, but it looks like they are improving week to week, which is a good sign.

I've got no problem with people not watching the game or the whole game.

I have a problem with someone not watching the game, looking at a simple stat and drawing conclusion or inferences from it.

The Texans obviously had decided to stop the run and were playing it tough all day. Not that surprising with the monsters they have up front. Seemed to me they were pissed off about their 2 poor performances vs the run and were determined to change it.

Like I said about Jameis, more than 75% of his throws were good throws/good decisions. He could of easily had 70%+ completions , 300+ yards and 2-3 TDs had it not been for drops, some BS penalties, a couple close calls and a few extremely impressive pass breakups by DBs at the last second with the ball in our WRs hands. It was Jameis Winston's best game as a Buccaneer. He got the ball out of his hand quickly, avoided pressure well and gave his WRs chances to win consistently.

[bwallstreet]

Tampa Bay Buccaneers NFL Football Front Page (http://www.scout.com/nfl/buccaneers/story/1592939-jameis-winston-plays-best-nfl-game)

[cadillac540]

They have to get rid of Brindza today, right? I seen Connor Barth said he's available haha

[bwallstreet]

They have to get rid of Brindza today, right? I seen Connor Barth said he's available haha

Brindza has to be gone. He showed promise, just mentally weak. Barth is probably the guy.

[majestik101]

I agree. Lovie Smith can only defend Brindza so much.

[bwallstreet]

Brindza is gone, end of that drama.

[Eckstein197]

Yes the Bucs lost yesterday. But we all knew that Jameis would have a game or 2 like this in his rookie season. Of course I'm disappointed but it's not catastrophic.

Btw what is wrong with Lavonte? Has played like crap so far this season

[Eckstein197]

Btw I really wish Brindza had worked out. Love his big leg, but he blew that Houston game

[bwallstreet]

Bucs officially signed K Connor Barth to replace Kyle Brindza.

[majestik101]

Bucs officially signed K Connor Barth to replace Kyle Brindza.

That's welcome news. Especially when they play Jax on Sunday. The Bucs need to get this win before the bye week.

[Rabs]

Yes the Bucs lost yesterday. But we all knew that Jameis would have a game or 2 like this in his rookie season. Of course I'm disappointed but it's not catastrophic.

Btw what is wrong with Lavonte? Has played like crap so far this season

He's already had two terrible games (Titans and now the Panthers). He can't continue to turn the ball over this much or else I think he should be benched to teach him a lesson.

[bwallstreet]

On talk radio, message boards and Twitter, the cries for Lovie Smith's job have started.

There are a large number of fans out there who want the head coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers fired. There are a large number of fans out there who are wrong.

It's not time to fire Smith – yet. Sure, he is 3-17 in two seasons in Tampa Bay, and that's not good by any measure. But Smith deserves more time.

He was brought in to be the second coming of Tony Dungy, viewed as a stable, deliberate coach who would eventually turn the Bucs into winners. Dungy didn't get off to a great start either, but he did have the Bucs in the playoffs in his second season.

Smith isn't going to have the Bucs in the playoffs in his second season unless something dramatic changes very quickly. He's 1-3, and the Bucs aren't showing any signs of improvement. But firing Smith now would be counterproductive. Going the route of an interim coach never accomplishes anything.

More importantly, Smith deserves more time. He inherited a mess from previous coach Greg Schiano. Things don't change overnight – unless you're Dan Quinn in Atlanta. Smith and general manager Jason Licht have been aggressive in overhauling the roster, but it's far from a finished product.

Smith is starting four rookies – quarterback Jameis Winston, middle linebacker Kwon Alexander, right guard Ali Marpet and left tackle Donovan Smith. The Bucs are going through major growing pains, particularly with Winston, who threw four interceptions in Sunday's blowout loss to Carolina.

Winston needs more time to develop, and Smith deserves more time to get his team on track. I'm not saying Smith definitely will turn things around. There haven't been many indications that he's headed in the right direction. But I am saying it's too early to make a switch because things could change for Smith quickly.

The Bucs have some talent on their roster. Defensive tackle Gerald McCoy, linebacker Lavonte David and wide receivers Mike Evans and Vincent Jackson are all top-flight players. There is a core in place. If Winston can improve, the Bucs could start winning some games.

That's what Smith needs. It's difficult to be patient, but that's the approach Tampa Bay's ownership is taking with Smith. The Glazer family, which owns the team, has seen what a lack of continuity can do to a franchise with the quick changes from Jon Gruden to Raheem Morris to Schiano to Smith. Every time you make a change, you take two steps back.

The Bucs can't afford any more steps back right now because they're pretty close to rock bottom. They need to give Smith a little more time to see if he can turn things around. I'm not saying Smith will turn things around. I'm just saying give him a shot.

Give him the rest of this season to show improvement. If he turns in another 2-14 season and Winston shows no progress, then it's time to contemplate a change. But let this season play out.

Smith keeps saying he sees improvement, although that might be difficult for the general public to see. Maybe Winston was a bad pick with the first overall selection in the 2015 NFL Draft, maybe the Tampa 2 defense is antiquated and maybe Smith, who was a consistent winner in Chicago, has lost his touch.

But don't pull the plug just yet. Smith, who is on a 5-year contract, deserves more time to see if he can turn this thing around.

Pat Yasinkas via Walter Football

[bwallstreet]

He's already had two terrible games (Titans and now the Panthers). He can't continue to turn the ball over this much or else I think he should be benched to teach him a lesson.

Well thankfully you are not making any decisions, because you would have no clue what you are doing. You allow a young QB to play and learn from his mistakes not start playing head games with him and try and break him down to rock bottom.

[Eckstein197]

Jags is a must win game

[bwallstreet]

Jags is a must win game

I think we will win this game by a decent margin. Our offense and defense will show the potential that they have to be decent. I think Jameis, Doug and Mike all get rolling in this game. Then everybody will say, oh it's just the Jags or something like that.

I honestly believe we capitalize off that momentum and the bye week, beat the Redskins on the road and get to 3-3 before we come back down to earth against some better teams.

[Rabs]

Well thankfully you are not making any decisions, because you would have no clue what you are doing. You allow a young QB to play and learn from his mistakes not start playing head games with him and try and break him down to rock bottom.

He's not bigger than the game. If he is playing poorly and costing the team games (which he has) he shouldn't be out there. Sometimes being benched lends perspective and it could help him improve. Many rookie QBs don't play right away for that reason - they aren't ready.

[cadillac540]

Dougie looked like his old self today!

[Rabs]

Dougie looked like his old self today!

Yeah he carried the team today and gave them a lead which allowed them to continue running the ball. They didn't have to rely on Winston to have to throw a lot of passes to play catch up and risk turnovers.

[Eckstein197]

Great game today. There were some struggles but great play all around. Nice to get a win heading into the bye week

[majestik101]

And now they have the bye week and play the Redskins next. The Duggernaut looked great. And Connor Barth showed up. Very nice effort by the entire team today.

GO BUCS!

[majestik101]

Big win today. Bucs are now 3-4. A lot of those losses can be blamed on the D and the kicker, it looks like they have figured out 1 of those 2. Winston has progressed very nicely, and is improving each week.

GO BUCS!

[Eckstein197]

Winston looked pretty good today, hasn't thrown an INT in 3 games. Kwon played a great game especially after his family tragedy. Good to pick up a win against a division rival. Blowing the Skins game will come back to haunt the team though, I guarantee it

[HeritageKing]

2-1 in the divison. Winston was the right pick.

[cadillac540]

Got to watch the game today. This is the best I've felt about the Bucs in a while. Winston really looking good lately. And a hell of a 4th round pick with Kwon.

[majestik101]

Got to watch the game today. This is the best I've felt about the Bucs in a while. Winston really looking good lately. And a hell of a 4th round pick with Kwon.

Kwon Alexander surprised me today. I knew he was good, I just didn't realize just how good he was. He has a great feel for the game. Next one is at home versus the Giants. Let's hope for another win to get to .500!

[cadillac540]

Kwon Alexander surprised me today. I knew he was good, I just didn't realize just how good he was. He has a great feel for the game. Next one is at home versus the Giants. Let's hope for another win to get to .500!

And to think a kicker cost us a game, and then a huge blown lead last week. Bleh! So close to being 5-2!!

I'm still happy about the progression, though.

[lagalaxyfan23]

Kwon Alexander surprised me today. I knew he was good, I just didn't realize just how good he was. He has a great feel for the game. Next one is at home versus the Giants. Let's hope for another win to get to .500!

I had no idea his brother passed away only a short time ago. Incredible video I'd definitely watch! Congrats on the win Bucs!

Buccaneers LB Kwon Alexander Has Career Game 24 Hours After Death of Brother | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2585065-buccaneers-lb-kwon-alexander-has-career-game-24-hours-after-death-of-brother?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)

[Rabs]

I'm not a Winston fan by any means but I'll admit he has played much better the past few games.

[majestik101]

I'm not a Winston fan by any means but I'll admit he has played much better the past few games.

Jameis Winston is a rookie, and just like most rookies, has made his fair share of mistakes, and will make a few more mistakes. But the thing I love about him is his football IQ, his athleticism, his ability to improvise, his positive attitude and his leadership on the field. All of those qualities will pay off big dividends.

[majestik101]

Saw this today.

Bucs honor Kwon Alexander after inspired game - ESPN Video (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:14037024)

[Rabs]

Jameis Winston is a rookie, and just like most rookies, has made his fair share of mistakes, and will make a few more mistakes. But the thing I love about him is his football IQ, his athleticism, his ability to improvise, his positive attitude and his leadership on the field. All of those qualities will pay off big dividends.

It seems like the Bucs are a good dome team. Beat the Saints and the Falcons on the road!

[majestik101]

It seems like the Bucs are a good dome team. Beat the Saints and the Falcons on the road!

They are getting better each week. A little optimism goes a long way with this team. It appears that the loss to Washington a week ago woke them up. Now if they can get a few more wins on the road, they'll be in good shape!

[majestik101]

Could you imagine the frenzy we'll be in on Sunday evening/Monday morning if TB beats the Giants at home?

It is not unreasonable to imagine that Jameis could throw for 300+ yards, 3 TD's in that game against NY's sorry pass defense.

LET'S GO BUCS!

[majestik101]

Jason Pierre Paul making his 2015 season debut today. Hopefully he, and his mangled hook hand don't do anything significant to our passing attack. Unfortunately, V-Jax will be missing his second consecutive game, and it is unlikely that ASJ will be playing, so it will be up to Mike Evans and Russell Shepard to make some plays.

Our defense also needs to step up, can't allow Eli Manning to throw all over the field like he did last week against New Orleans. I also expect Doug Martin to have some quality runs today.

GO BUCS!

[majestik101]

...And the Bucs lose another game they should've won. Hold on to the dang ball Mike Evans. Way too many drops from him today.

Jameis Winston is getting it done on the field. The Bucs problems right now is certainly not on him.

[HeritageKing]

Way to many penalties. Lovie smith sucks. We have talent but no motivator. Jameis is a beast .

[majestik101]

Way to many penalties. Lovie smith sucks. We have talent but no motivator. Jameis is a beast .

Agreed. Lovie needs to go after the season.

The Bucs also need to stop shooting themselves in the foot with penalties, and Mike Evans needs to get better making catches. He had 6 drops, which is the most by a player in a game in the last 10 seasons. :doh:

Winston and Evans would have had 85 more yards had Evans not dropped any passes. That would have made a big difference.

[MC80_LCM]

As someone who hates the Giants this was arguably the most disappointing loss of the season for me. I love Evans but man were some of those drops bad. Not only were they bad drops but they were big drops. That bomb that he dropped might have gone for a TD. He also had I think 3 drops on 3rd down that would have kept the drive alive, including one on the drive where Barth missed the FG. Lets also not forget the drop by Martin on what very easily could have been a long TD.

With that being said Winston looked very good again. Without some of those drops his numbers look ALOT better. He's done a very good job at not making the stupid throws that turn into INTS the past couple weeks. He's also doing it with very little pass catching talent around him. I'm definitely looking forward to ASJ and VJax coming back soon.

As frustrating as some of these losses have been, its certainly been enjoyable watching the offense improve. Now the Defense just needs to start taking steps forward.

[bwallstreet]

You guys are impatient like a lot of our fan base. I sincerely hope the Glazers are not as impatient and emotional as some of the fan base.

Bad teams stay bad when they fail to commit to full rebuilds, we are in Year 2 of a full rebuild. They drafted 1 defensive player in 2 years because they felt the offense was worse and a more pressing need. Unsurprisingly the team has gotten much better on offense and the defense, specifically the secondary needs help.

We're right around the corner from where we want to be, need to be and people want to blow it up because they can't wait, get emotional and have unrealistic expectations.

[Rabs]

You guys are impatient like a lot of our fan base. I sincerely hope the Glazers are not as impatient and emotional as some of the fan base.

Bad teams stay bad when they fail to commit to full rebuilds, we are in Year 2 of a full rebuild. They drafted 1 defensive player in 2 years because they felt the offense was worse and a more pressing need. Unsurprisingly the team has gotten much better on offense and the defense, specifically the secondary needs help.

We're right around the corner from where we want to be, need to be and people want to blow it up because they can't wait, get emotional and have unrealistic expectations.

Does that mean you want to keep Lovie Smith as the head coach?

[HeritageKing]

If Im yelling at the tv cause guys on the field getting paid millions are sucking, then I want a head coach who is yelling at his players. Lovie's poker face expression, whether we are winning by 10 or losing by 40 really pisses me off. Plus the stupid freaking penalties. That has got to be on the coach.

[majestik101]

You guys are impatient like a lot of our fan base. I sincerely hope the Glazers are not as impatient and emotional as some of the fan base.

Bad teams stay bad when they fail to commit to full rebuilds, we are in Year 2 of a full rebuild. They drafted 1 defensive player in 2 years because they felt the offense was worse and a more pressing need. Unsurprisingly the team has gotten much better on offense and the defense, specifically the secondary needs help.

We're right around the corner from where we want to be, need to be and people want to blow it up because they can't wait, get emotional and have unrealistic expectations.

I'm very patient. I have been patient with this team for several years now. Winston is doing just what I thought he would, which is make progression from week to week. Where I lose my patience is with a coach who can't control his players with the high amount of penalties, an inconsistent defense which plays great one series and falters the next series, allowing an open receiver to stand undefended in the end zone and make a TD catch, and a 2nd year receiver (who in my eyes is among the elite) not making catches that he normally would make.

Patience is a virtue when it comes to supporting this team. It's not the end of the world, the team is 3-5, and ASJ and V-Jax are coming back to help.

[bwallstreet]

Does that mean you want to keep Lovie Smith as the head coach?

Clearly, they have rebuilt this offense completely in 2 years. Given the chance to invest high picks in our defense and secondary this will be a playoff team. Starting 2 rookie play callers (offense and defense) isn't great short term but was the right call long term.

[majestik101]

Clearly, they have rebuilt this offense completely in 2 years. Given the chance to invest high picks in our defense and secondary this will be a playoff team. Starting 2 rookie play callers (offense and defense) isn't great short term but was the right call long term.

Well put.

I will say, I have the most optimism about this team than I have had in YEARS. That is saying something.

[bwallstreet]

Well put.

I will say, I have the most optimism about this team than I have had in YEARS. That is saying something.

They couldn't possibly fix all the issues with this team in 2 years. This regime, and Lovie definitely has a big say along with Jason Licht, are absolutely killing the draft. Great #1 WR(Starter), super talented TE(Starter), extremely fast RB with great hands(Back Up who sees signifact time), Buccaneers QB for the next 15 years(Starter), LT who has exceeded all expectations(Starter), RG who has been one of the best run blocking OGs in the league(Starter), MLB who has flashed some really special talent(Starter). 6 starters all who have/are performed at a high level this season and a key backup who is a great change of pace RB, and people can't see where this thing is going? Evans, Sims and ASJ have all shown growth as a player and developed from last year to this year.

All the problems this defense has can be traced back to the horrendous seconday, outside of Banks and McDougald(possibly), it needs to be completely rebuilt. They will have that chance this year, expect 2 of our first 4 picks to be DBs and possibly another one late. We're a RE and some DB help away from being a good defense if not great.

[majestik101]

Congrats to the Bucs on the win! Not a pretty game, but at this point, a win is a win.

Jameis Winston was not particularly impressive, threw two INT's, but helps his team march downfield on a 56 yard drive in the closing minutes to help improve the Bucs to a 4-5 record.

GO BUCS!!

[Rabs]

Thankfully they had that holding penalty on the Cowboys on the play that Winston fumbled at the goal line otherwise that would have ended the game! But yes a win is a win even though it was very ugly. The Cowboys are very pathetic though.

[Eckstein197]

Jameis wasn't on his game but he drove the team down the field and picked up the victory. I think that's a true showing off a QB's character on the field. Even when he's having a rough day, having that ability to shake it off and lead the team in the final minutes for the victory. Clutch

[majestik101]

Jameis wasn't on his game but he drove the team down the field and picked up the victory. I think that's a true showing off a QB's character on the field. Even when he's having a rough day, having that ability to shake it off and lead the team in the final minutes for the victory. Clutch

True. He didn't lose his composure down the stretch. Was able to shake off his mistakes from earlier, and gather his team around him to give his team the opportunity to win at home. The guy's a born leader, I was really impressed with what he was able to do towards the end of the game.

And could you imagine if he hadn't fumbled on the goal line, and scored that touchdown? That would have been the play of the year, on par with Cam Newton's tumble earlier in the season!

[bwallstreet]

Jameis gives everything he has to this team and expects the same from everyone else around him.

Great team win. Lovie definitely has this going in the right direction.

[Rabs]

Weird thing on that play was he fumbled the ball on his own and wasn't even touched yet.

[HeritageKing]

Last year we would of kicked a field goal and lost in overtime, this year we punch it in and get a stop on defense. Me likey.

[majestik101]

Last year we would of kicked a field goal and lost in overtime, this year we punch it in and get a stop on defense. Me likey.

Ain't that the truth. Granted, we didn't play against a really good team today, I imagine things would have been a lot different if Romo was playing, but we'll take a win any way we can. :)!

[Rabs]

Ain't that the truth. Granted, we didn't play against a really good team today, I imagine things would have been a lot different if Romo was playing, but we'll take a win any way we can. :)!

Romo should win MVP since he obviously means a lot more to that team than most people thought. LOL.

[cadillac540]

Any of you guys been to a game in Carolina? Was wondering how the fans are to opposing fans of division teams. Thinking about getting tickets to it...

[MC80_LCM]

Any of you guys been to a game in Carolina? Was wondering how the fans are to opposing fans of division teams. Thinking about getting tickets to it...

I went to the game there last year and will be going again this year. I didn't have any issues last year, I think the worst I got was a couple "Bucs Suck" but that was it.

[bwallstreet]

Going into Week 11
-8th place in NFC
-2 games out of wildcard
-winning record in division
-Eagles without Bradford this week, Colts without Luck next week. Rams benched Foles for Keenum. Carolina may rest Week 17.

[Rabs]

Going into Week 11
-8th place in NFC
-2 games out of wildcard
-winning record in division
-Eagles without Bradford this week, Colts without Luck next week. Rams benched Foles for Keenum. Carolina may rest Week 17.

That is pretty crazy! Bucs seem to have luck on their side for a change.

[HeritageKing]

Winston threw two picks, but were they not both tipped balls?

I dont care what he does, when you are holding teams to 6 points, I like our chances.

[majestik101]

Winston threw two picks, but were they not both tipped balls?

I dont care what he does, when you are holding teams to 6 points, I like our chances.

Correct. One of those Interceptions was his fault (the second one, in the fourth quarter). But he has looked really good as of late. Plus, the Defense has done their job. If they consistently play well for the rest of the season and limit the penalties, there's no telling how this team will finish. I'm not saying playoffs, but their arrow is certainly going up.

I also saw this earlier today. Dude is pumped. Gotta love his enthusiasm. The grin on Lovie's face says it all.

https://twitter.com/TBBuccaneers/status/666287348955549697

[majestik101]

Is anyone else psyched for this game? Bucs have a real opportunity here to win 2 in a row and go 5-5. But it's going to be difficult. ASJ is questionable. V-Jax is a game time decision. Philly has a great pass and rush defense. If the Bucs are to win this game, they must rely on Jameis to make good decisions, not turn the ball over, and the defense must step up and stop the Eagles from scoring a lot of points. Cannot wait for this game.

GO BUCS!

[bwallstreet]

Is anyone else psyched for this game? Bucs have a real opportunity here to win 2 in a row and go 5-5. But it's going to be difficult. ASJ is questionable. V-Jax is a game time decision. Philly has a great pass and rush defense. If the Bucs are to win this game, they must rely on Jameis to make good decisions, not turn the ball over, and the defense must step up and stop the Eagles from scoring a lot of points. Cannot wait for this game.

GO BUCS!

Of course we are, big game. We're playing complimentary football, starting to get healthy and sitting at 8th place in NFC playoff picture currently with flopping Atlanta in 6th only two games ahead of us.

I don't get all the love for the Philly defense, yardage wise they are average vs both the run and pass, points per game they are above average, they really only excel at turnovers. I think they're just lucky more than anything. We will see on Sunday.

Vincent Jackson, Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Ali Marpet, Evan Smith and Jacquies Smith all could possibly play on Sunday. If we get 3 or more of those guys back that would really help. Greg Auman thinks that Jacquies and either Marpet or Smith will be back based on how they filled the last roster spot today(promoting a practice squad LB).

We have a chance at getting healthy and making a playoff run with facing backup QBs this week and next week and with a strong possibility of Carolina resting Week 17. I don't want to get my hopes up but I'm rooting hard for Jameis, Lavonte and the guys.

[MikeWilliamsFan]

The first step to beating the birds tomorrow:

Show up

[bwallstreet]

Vincent Jackson - Active
Jacquies Smith - Active
Evan Smith - Active
Major Wright - Active
ASJ - Inactive
Marpet - Inactive
George Johnson - Inactive

Peters - Active
Bradford - Inactive
Ryan Matthews - Inactive

[majestik101]

Great news that V-Jax and Jacquies Smith are both active for this game. Only 1 Hour until kick off!

[majestik101]

***Update***
Well dammit. Rookie standout Kwon Alexander nabbed for using PED's. Facing a Four Game Suspension. Dumb Dumb Dumb!!!! SMH :doh:

Kwon Alexander of Tampa Bay Buccaneers facing 4-game suspension for violating PED policy (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14192364/kwon-alexander-tampa-bay-buccaneers-facing-4-game-suspension-violating-ped-policy)

[cadillac540]

***Update***
Well dammit. Rookie standout Kwon Alexander nabbed for using PED's. Facing a Four Game Suspension. Dumb Dumb Dumb!!!! SMH :doh:

Kwon Alexander of Tampa Bay Buccaneers facing 4-game suspension for violating PED policy (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14192364/kwon-alexander-tampa-bay-buccaneers-facing-4-game-suspension-violating-ped-policy)

Um... wow. That's a disappointing blow considering this is the most excited I've been about Tampa in several years.

[cadillac540]

I went to the game there last year and will be going again this year. I didn't have any issues last year, I think the worst I got was a couple "Bucs Suck" but that was it.

Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll end up going. Though tickets seem to be a little high for the game...

[Rabs]

The Bucs are destroying the Eagles. The o-line is giving Winston time and he is picking apart the Eagles defense with ease. He has 5 passing TDs!

[bwallstreet]

How bout them Buccaneers? Let's make a playoff push.

[starfox]

Cowboys fan here, but go Winston (Go Bucs). #SeminolesAlwaysBall

[majestik101]

How bout them Buccaneers? Let's make a playoff push.

Yep. We can actually do this. Tremendous win by the Bucs today.

GO BUCS!

[HBMC]

Hard to believe Dallas' Defense had that much success limiting Tampa on Offense last week. Nice work by the Bucs this week.

[TheFrenzy]

Hard to believe Dallas' Defense had that much success limiting Tampa on Offense last week. Nice work by the Bucs this week.

Hell yeah! Awesome game Bucs! :flex:

[Eckstein197]

As a Bucs fan who lives in Maryland and goes to college in Pennsylvania, I rarely get to watch them on TV, but today I got to.

And what a game to watch. The whole team played top notch. Jameis looked awesome. 5 TD passes is a great day. Doug Martin showed his true form. I really thought he was going to break the rushing record. The receivers stepped up like Humphries even though he dropped a TD.

The defense played pretty well. We saw the real Lavonte David. Gerald McCoy looked like an all star.

I kind of wish I had gone to this game because Philly is about an hour from me but schoolwork prevented me from going but man what a great game.

1 game out of the playoffs, the Bucs can do this. Have to beat the Colts next Sunday and then a huge game against the Falcons. Go Bucs!

[bwallstreet]

Lavonte David last 2 games: 18 tackles, 1 sacks, 2 interceptions, 1 touchdown

[bwallstreet]

Jameis 5 TD passes all came on 3rd down, nasty! He also set Bucs record for most wins by a rookie QB

[ekalbnz]

Only seen the highlights, but looked like a great win for the Buc's. Hopefully we can see a Raiders vc Buc's superwin again in a couple years :)!

[bwallstreet]

Only seen the highlights, but looked like a great win for the Buc's. Hopefully we can see a Raiders vc Buc's superwin again in a couple years :)!

Last time was great, sign us up for that any time.

[majestik101]

Just overheard on the radio. Jameis Winston possibly in the running for Rookie of the Year. It's obviously too early to have that discussion, but after a few more games like the one he had today, it doesn't seem that far fetched.

[bwallstreet]

Just overheard on the radio. Jameis Winston possibly in the running for Rookie of the Year. It's obviously too early to have that discussion, but after a few more games like the one he had today, it doesn't seem that far fetched.

Not too early to discuss, just not over by any means. Definitely a three horse race between Winston, Gurley and Mariota.

If Jameis gets us to 8-8 or better I believe he will win it, if not Gurley wins.

[MikeWilliamsFan]

Always kinda liked the bucs (hence the name MikeWilliamsFan of when mike was on the bucs lol). Eagles defense was obviously awful in all facets today

[HBMC]

Not too early to discuss, just not over by any means. Definitely a three horse race between Winston, Gurley and Mariota.

If Jameis gets us to 8-8 or better I believe he will win it, if not Gurley wins.

Don't forget Amari Cooper! :)!

[ekalbnz]

Not too early to discuss, just not over by any means. Definitely a three horse race between Winston, Gurley and Mariota.

If Jameis gets us to 8-8 or better I believe he will win it, if not Gurley wins.

Don't forget Amari Cooper! :)!

Cooper stunk it up today, dropping a few passes. And Gurley has looked average the past 3 games. So I think it could end up pretty close between the big 4.

[Rabs]

Cooper stunk it up today, dropping a few passes. And Gurley has looked average the past 3 games. So I think it could end up pretty close between the big 4.

Gurley is already the best player on his team. The Rams have had terrible QB play and yet Gurley is still doing well. It's quite amazing what he's accomplished this year, not to mention he missed several games to start the season. Cooper should be in the running as well. You can have a few bad games and still win the award. Winston has had some bad games that's for sure yet he's had some really good games too.

[majestik101]

Gurley is already the best player on his team. The Rams have had terrible QB play and yet Gurley is still doing well. It's quite amazing what he's accomplished this year, not to mention he missed several games to start the season. Cooper should be in the running as well. You can have a few bad games and still win the award. Winston has had some bad games that's for sure yet he's had some really good games too.

Amazing to me that a player can miss nearly a quarter of their season and still win the award. Just goes to show you how skilled and athletic the players are nowadays that they can do that and still make an impact, not only on their respective team, but the entire NFL.

[majestik101]

The Refs are absolutely horrible this season. Running into the holder penalty. That's a new one to me. Ridiculous. Anyways that's all I have to really say about this one.

[Rabs]

The Refs are absolutely horrible this season. Running into the holder penalty. That's a new one to me. Ridiculous. Anyways that's all I have to really say about this one.

Didn't see the game. Are you saying the refs are the reason they lost?

[majestik101]

Didn't see the game. Are you saying the refs are the reason they lost?

No. The running into the holder penalty was just the icing on the cake for a bad game.

TB just resorted back to their old habits. The dumb penalties committed by Tampa Bay were too much to overcome, especially that bone head penalty by Logan Mankins. The Offensive line also didn't do their job, as Jameis was sacked 5 times.

...Also didn't help that Mike Evans is continuing to drop passes, although the one he dropped might have been a TD, it would've been a tough catch.

Hopefully the return back to Tampa for back to back home games against New Orleans and Atlanta can right the ship.

[Rabs]

The Saints are bad and the Falcons are reeling so those two teams are beatable.

[Eckstein197]

Tough game to lose today but not too bad because it's out of conference. The next 2 weeks will determine whether this team is for real about a playoff spot. Got to win the next 2.

[DalliLlama11]

Seattle is about to end both our teams chances at the playoffs :/.

[majestik101]

Tough game to lose today but not too bad because it's out of conference. The next 2 weeks will determine whether this team is for real about a playoff spot. Got to win the next 2.

Yep, considering that the Bucs have already won against these teams this year should give them confidence. Dropping 1 of the 2 will not be good, they need to win both to bring their record to 7-6 and keep them in the hunt for the playoffs.

GO BUCS!

[jerryw]

we super bowl bound....lol

[Rabs]

I'm pretty sure the Bucs have only beaten one team with a current winning record all year and that is the Falcons who are one game over .500. I may be wrong though.

[Siberian13]

I'm pretty sure the Bucs have only beaten one team with a current winning record all year and that is the Falcons who are one game over .500. I may be wrong though.

Yep and the Falcons will get back on track this weekend in Tampa! GO FALCONS!!!

[bwallstreet]

Yep and the Falcons will get back on track this weekend in Tampa! GO FALCONS!!!

The Falcons have lost 4 in a row including San Francisco and Blaine Gabbert. Seems like the only way you get back on track is if the other team doesn't show up. Classic Atlanta choke artists.

You've also only beaten one team with a winning record. Houston. You're being propped up by going 4-0 vs NFC East where no one is over .500

[majestik101]

Congratulations! Jameis Winston wins NFL Rookie of the Month for November. It is the first time a Buccaneer has won Rookie of the Month honors since 2013, when Mike Glennon won.

Jameis Winston Named Rookie of the Month (http://www.buccaneers.com/news/article-smith/Jameis-Winston-Named-Rookie-of-the-Month/775449d9-f2cf-41ee-8eb6-9e995fd5ede0)

[jasonm2121]

Congratulations! Jameis Winston wins NFL Rookie of the Month for November. It is the first time a Buccaneer has won Rookie of the Month honors since 2013, when Mike Glennon won.

Jameis Winston Named Rookie of the Month (http://www.buccaneers.com/news/article-smith/Jameis-Winston-Named-Rookie-of-the-Month/775449d9-f2cf-41ee-8eb6-9e995fd5ede0)

how is the fan base with him so far? I have not watched games really, seems like he is getting better each game, yea?

[bwallstreet]

how is the fan base with him so far? I have not watched games really, seems like he is getting better each game, yea?

The fan base loves him! The Jameis supporters pre-draft are ecstatic that their dreams are coming true, the doubters have turned into some of his biggest fans and even the harshest critics have done a complete 180.

His play has for the most part steadily improved with minor spikes and setbacks. The key to everything is his leadership, this kid has it in spades. Really not an exaggeration to say best leadership skills by a rookie that anyone has ever seen.

His actions, words, mannerisms and body language really speak for themselves. He picks others up arounds him, puts successes on others and blame on himself consistently.

He easily could become the greatest player in our franchise history, and I am a diehard Brooks, Sapp and Barber fan.

[jasonm2121]

The fan base loves him! The Jameis supporters pre-draft are ecstatic that their dreams are coming true, the doubters have turned into some of his biggest fans and even the harshest critics have done a complete 180.

His play has for the most part steadily improved with minor spikes and setbacks. The key to everything is his leadership, this kid has it in spades. Really not an exaggeration to say best leadership skills by a rookie that anyone has ever seen.

His actions, words, mannerisms and body language really speak for themselves. He picks others up arounds him, puts successes on others and blame on himself consistently.

He easily could become the greatest player in our franchise history, and I am a diehard Brooks, Sapp and Barber fan.

damn man, sounds good to me, get his cards while you can then!

[bwallstreet]

damn man, sounds good to me, get his cards while you can then!

Way too expensive for my taste, grabbed the white Jersey on draft night. Just bought the throwback on black Friday though.

[jasonm2121]

Way too expensive for my taste, grabbed the white Jersey on draft night. Just bought the throwback on black Friday though.

nice, seem some pretty awesome auto RCs around on the ebay, nice stuff

[majestik101]

A lot of credit too to the coaches. Leslie Frazier, Lovie Smith and Dirk Koetter for leading this group of players.

I'm excited to see this team play each and every week.


My favorite PC Jameis Winston card so far. Looking to add more soon!


310509

[jasonm2121]

nice man,like the topps too

2015 Topps Inception Jameis Winston Rookie Auto 10 10 BGS 9 5 10 Check Out Subs | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-TOPPS-INCEPTION-JAMEIS-WINSTON-ROOKIE-AUTO-10-10-BGS-9-5-10-CHECK-OUT-SUBS-/391329663423?hash=item5b1d10c9bf:g:aUkAAOSw9mFWKU90)

[majestik101]

***UPDATE***

Good News: Austin Sefarian Jenkins active today. Jameis will have another reliable target to throw to.

Bad News: Gerald McCoy, Jacquies Smith and George Johnson are out today. The Bucs Defense will be tested today.

I still think the Bucs will win.

GO BUCS!!

[majestik101]

Wow. Tremendous win by the Buccaneers today. Jameis Winston looking absolutely solid today, distributing the ball to several players. Threw one interception on a pass that should've been caught. The rookie quarterback led his third fourth-quarter/overtime comeback with a 12-play, 80-yard drive to keep Tampa Bay's playoff hopes alive. His 20-yard run on third-and-19 during the decisive drive in the fourth, followed by his 6-yard touchdown pass to Mike Evans, erased any bad throws he made earlier against Atlanta.

Doug Martin playing really well too. Defense was solid as well, especially towards the end of the game.

The team is still committing too many penalties though. But a win is a win, and right now this team has their sights on the playoffs. Bring on the New Orleans Saints!!

[MC80_LCM]

The team is still committing too many penalties though. But a win is a win, and right now this team has their sights on the playoffs. Bring on the New Orleans Saints!!

I think the difference between this year and prior years is that they finally have the talent and heart to overcome things like bad penalties or turnovers. Before they'd get a holding penalty on 1st down and they would throw 2 incompletes then run a draw. Or the offense would turn the ball over and then the D would immediately allow a TD. Now those 1st and 15s or 1st and 20s are being converted and after a turnover the opposing team is being held a lot of times to a FG or nothing at all.

Playoffs or not it is finally a relief to know that baring something unforeseen, we have our QB for the next 12-15 years.

[Eckstein197]

Jameis run defied physics!! Great game yesterday, it's time for the stretch run.

Saints
Rams
Bears
Panthers

Can definitely win all 4

[MC80_LCM]

Jameis run defied physics!! Great game yesterday, it's time for the stretch run.

Saints
Rams
Bears
Panthers

Can definitely win all 4

I'm really interested to see what happens with that Carolina game. Carolina should have the conference wrapped up in the next couple weeks. It will be interesting to see what they do if they are 15-0 but have nothing but perfection to play for.

It does suck that Alexander is suspended for the next 4 games. I guess we get to see if Bruce Carter can live up to any of that contract.

[Rabs]

The Bucs have had a very favorable schedule this year, including the next 3 games. They need to take advantage while they can if they want to make the playoffs as a WC. They definitely have a shot which is crazy to think that after what the team was like last year!

[majestik101]

The Vikings loss last night to Arizona helps the Bucs move up one spot in the playoff wild card. That is, if the Bucs win on Sunday, which they should be able to, but since this the NFL, nothing is guaranteed. Anyways. Good news.

Vikings Loss Helps Bucs' Playoff Hopes (http://www.buccaneers.com/news/article-1/Vikings-Loss-Helps-Bucs-Playoff-Hopes/2b1d835e-b2eb-447a-ad0f-ef630ccf1302)

[majestik101]

This time last year, the Bucs were 2-12. Crazy to think that the Bucs are in the playoff hunt, but here we are.

Lavonte David and Gerald McCoy both active today.


LET'S GO BUCS!!

[Rabs]

This time last year, the Bucs were 2-12. Crazy to think that the Bucs are in the playoff hunt, but here we are.

Lavonte David and Gerald McCoy both active today.


LET'S GO BUCS!!

Which Saints team will show up today? Last week they played great against the Panthers.

[preakness]

Go jameis
Played you over hoyer and stafford

[majestik101]

So. The Buccaneers lose. They are now at 6-7 and need to win the next three to have any real chance. Losing V-Jax early in the game definitely affected the Bucs offense, but the Defense looked horrible out there allowing Drew Brees to sling it all over the field. It feels like our backs are up against the wall, this team really needs to get it going.

[Eckstein197]

Tough loss. Nothing else to say about it. Young teams will have these kinds of losses

[Rabs]

They have improved this year but still have a ways to go to be considered a "good" team. Really hurt their playoff chances today.

[majestik101]

Jameis Winston seen following today's loss at a local Publix buying crabs legs.

I found this to be a little funny. Oh, the irony.

https://twitter.com/AnwarRichardson/status/676186648858591232

[cadillac540]

Jameis Winston seen following today's loss at a local Publix buying crabs legs.

I found this to be a little funny. Oh, the irony.

https://twitter.com/AnwarRichardson/status/676186648858591232

LMAO oh man.

[blackbears86]

So. The Buccaneers lose. They are now at 6-7 and need to win the next three to have any real chance. Losing V-Jax early in the game definitely affected the Bucs offense, but the Defense looked horrible out there allowing Drew Brees to sling it all over the field. It feels like our backs are up against the wall, this team really needs to get it going.


Tough game for Winston. Even though they lost V-Jax, they still have a good offense. Disapointing numbers for Winston against a very poor defense. Hopefully, he will continue to improve.

[maddbeaver]

Tough to win games when you're leading the league in penalties and can't get off the field on defense, allowing teams to convert 46.6% of their 3rd downs (league worst). I'm lucky to have a tv after watching that game yesterday! It seemed as if the Saints were converting every 3rd and 10+ yards. Hopefully we'll see some improvement on Thursday!

[majestik101]

It's almost time for Thursday Night Football!!

Showdown between the top 2 OROY candidates. The Rams have nothing to play for except I guess their pride. The Bucs need this win to stay in the playoff hunt.

I'm hoping that Jameis Winston plays well enough to keep him in the lead for the OROY consideration.

[drumstyx89]

I hope Gurley gets 150 and 2 TDS, but the Bucs win

[Rabs]

I hope Gurley gets 150 and 2 TDS, but the Bucs win

Me too cause Gurley is on my fantasy team. :)

[Eckstein197]

Hoping that Jameis explodes in this matchup, first primetime game. Bucs need this. Win tonight and root for the Vikings and Seahawks to lose on sunday

[majestik101]

Jameis should have a strong game. I was watching his tape on NFL network the other day, this dude is such a great addition. I did not realize just how strong and quick and athletic he is.

Doug Martin and ASJ both need to take over in this game. V-Jax is still out with a sprained MCL unfortunately.

[HeritageKing]

Go bucs! Probably can't catch the Seahawks or Vikes, but it would be nice to win out. Someone on the defense need to step up. Run Dougie early and often.

[Rabs]

Beware of Aaron Donald! That dude is on a tear of late.

[majestik101]

Beware of Aaron Donald! That dude is on a tear of late.

Oh yeah, Aaron Donald is really good, I just hope he isn't that good tonight. lol

[majestik101]

Go bucs! Probably can't catch the Seahawks or Vikes, but it would be nice to win out. Someone on the defense need to step up. Run Dougie early and often.

The Duggernaut isn't a concern for us. Our WR's need to step it up. Mike Evans, especially.

GO BUCS!!!

[Eckstein197]

If Jameis goes off and Gurley struggles, I think Jameis will lock up OROY

[majestik101]

Well that didn't take long. Rams lead 7-0 already. Also these uniforms are horrendous.