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Idol
08-30-2015, 10:41 AM
Who do you all think we'll have a better season?

oldgoldy97
08-30-2015, 10:43 AM
Tannehill.

mikeyp
08-30-2015, 10:46 AM
Tannehill for sure!

bwallstreet
08-30-2015, 10:51 AM
Tannehill, I expect Kaepernick to have a bad season and be out of SF next year or take a huge pay cut to stay. Landry and Parker are two very good young receivers.

88horsepower
08-30-2015, 10:52 AM
Tannehill and it's not even close.

SanAntonioSpurs
08-30-2015, 10:52 AM
Tannehill, Kaepernick was a one hit wonder.

ssbledsoe
08-30-2015, 10:57 AM
Tannehill and it's not even close.

This. What in the world could Kaep possibly improve upon. Tabby had a better season than him last year. Dolphins improved. SF imploded. It's not even a contest... Only way Kaep wins is if Tanny gets hurt.

chitownbears22
08-30-2015, 10:59 AM
Toss up IMO. Tannehill will end up with better passing stats though.

twisty571
08-30-2015, 11:02 AM
I like Tannehill to have a better season. Better D and weapons I think. Kaep has some decent weapons though. Also Idol is that your personal Stafford collection listed or was that a consignment? It makes mine look like peanuts!

titletowncards
08-30-2015, 12:10 PM
Sold all my Kaep's back at the end of 2012, that should be your answer right there.

88horsepower
08-30-2015, 12:13 PM
This. What in the world could Kaep possibly improve upon. Tabby had a better season than him last year. Dolphins improved. SF imploded. It's not even a contest... Only way Kaep wins is if Tanny gets hurt.

Yeah, both players are going in different directions. Tannehill is progressing, while Kaepernick is regressing. I don't see how Kaeperinick will bounce back with all adversity the 49ers have faced this offseason, the new coaching regime and the fact that the 49ers play in one of the toughest divisions in football. Tannehill has continued to learn and make better decisions in a young offense with strong potential to take another step forward.

Dani
08-30-2015, 12:17 PM
Kaeprrnick and RG lll , both new a new address to resurrect their broken careers or they are finished. The offense has to be built around their strengths
RG lll needs an offensive line that won't let him get destroyed ( a reflection of how they feel about him)

Tannehill ( and his wife) will be fine . If Miami doesn't screw this up , they could be really good. Tannehill is good enough , not great but good enough to lead them to the promised land

chitownbears22
08-30-2015, 12:20 PM
Kaeprrnick and RG lll , both new a new address to resurrect their broken careers or they are finished. The offense has to be built around their strengths
RG lll needs an offensive line that won't let him get destroyed ( a reflection of how they feel about him)

Tannehill ( and his wife) will be fine . If Miami doesn't screw this up , they could be really good. Tannehill is good enough , not great but good enough to lead them to the promised land

Why is Kaepernick's career broken? His numbers were about the same in 2013 as they were in 2014. He has been the only consistent for the 49ers. You watch to much First Take and Sportscenter, actually watch the games.

IronMonkey415
08-30-2015, 12:21 PM
Tannehill could be most improve player winner
and the other guy is having fun playing Pacino in that commercial.

Win/Win for both of them.

88horsepower
08-30-2015, 12:29 PM
Why is Kaepernick's career broken? His numbers were about the same in 2013 as they were in 2014. He has been the only consistent for the 49ers. You watch to much First Take and Sportscenter, actually watch the games.

Yeah, I don't see his career as broken. He certainly needs to improve his decision-making skills. There are stretches where he doesn't go through his progressions. In those instances, he locks in on the primary receiver, who is covered, too quickly without checking down. He's still a very talented and serviceable quarterback, but not growing into the quarterback many expected when he was with Harbaugh during better times.

Broken career would be a more applicable term to use for guys like Christian Ponder.

chitownbears22
08-30-2015, 12:35 PM
Yeah, I don't see his career as broken. He certainly needs to improve his decision-making skills. There are stretches where he doesn't go through his progressions and lock in on the primary receiver, who is covered we'll, too quickly without checking down. He's still a very talented and serviceable quarterback, but not growing into the quarterback many expected when he was with Harbaugh during better times.

Broken career would be a more applicable term to use for guys like Christian Ponder.

He is getting a big boost by Gore and Crabtree leaving. Gore had 8 games last year under 4.0 ypc, his age was showing. Crabtree did not eclipse the 100 yard mark all season, and had only 3 games with over 5 receptions. Long story short, Gore was ineffective because of age, and Crabtree was ineffective because he Boldin did the same job better.

I like the offensive group of Kaep/Boldin/Davis/Smith/Hyde, and Kaep will finally have a WR capable of stretching the field. This will open up running lanes because the safeties have to respect the deep ball.

ntgm37
08-30-2015, 01:00 PM
What defines a better season? Wins? Stats? I also don't get how Kaepernick regressed when he improved on all of his stats from the year prior, all of this while having 12% of his passes dropped, and being the most sacked qb. I know people are going to go straight to the old "but his defense won games, not him" argument. Those people didn't watch many Niners games. His team was still 8-8 while dealing with a revolving door of injuries and front office turmoil. Obviously the Dolphins will have a better record so I guess Tannehill?

RetailPhenom
08-30-2015, 01:54 PM
Tanny has a good set of weapons and has gotten better every year. Kaepernick has neither IMO.

88horsepower
08-30-2015, 01:59 PM
He is getting a big boost by Gore and Crabtree leaving. Gore had 8 games last year under 4.0 ypc, his age was showing. Crabtree did not eclipse the 100 yard mark all season, and had only 3 games with over 5 receptions. Long story short, Gore was ineffective because of age, and Crabtree was ineffective because he Boldin did the same job better.

I like the offensive group of Kaep/Boldin/Davis/Smith/Hyde, and Kaep will finally have a WR capable of stretching the field. This will open up running lanes because the safeties have to respect the deep ball.

It will be interesting to see how Hyde pans out. The offensive line is quite dinged up, so he's going to have some adversity in his path. Kid has some really nice tools and isn't a liability in pass blocking, so he'll be on the field a lot. Crabtree definitely needed to go. He could end up being a decent complimentary receiver next to Amari in Oakland, but his time was up in SF.

coltsnsox07
08-30-2015, 02:02 PM
It took Kaepernick about 29 minutes to complete his first pass yesterday!

BoxBreaker72
08-30-2015, 02:17 PM
Tannehill and it isn't close. Kap is going to get hit a lot this year IMO.

I can see SF winning 2-3 games.

chitownbears22
08-30-2015, 02:40 PM
Tannehill and it isn't close. Kap is going to get hit a lot this year IMO.

I can see SF winning 2-3 games.

Wish we could bet on blowout, this would be easy money.

jbrandonw
08-30-2015, 02:44 PM
Not even close. Kap.






Just kidding. It's tannehill.

88horsepower
08-30-2015, 02:58 PM
Wish we could bet on blowout, this would be easy money.

I'll take the over, but not by much.

chitownbears22
08-30-2015, 03:03 PM
I'll take the over, but not by much.

I think 6-8 wins is possible. There schedule is brutal though. They are underrated right now by most people because ESPN keeps telling the world they are imploding. The D still looked like it knew what it was doing and the scheme hasn't really changed. And now Kaep has offensive skill players that meet his strengths.

BoxBreaker72
08-30-2015, 03:19 PM
Wish we could bet on blowout, this would be easy money.

By no means is that my prediction for them. I would guess 5 wins if I had to make a prediction.

I can however see them winning 2-3 games. I think they have lost too much. Never seen a team have a worse off-season. Seems like half the team either retired or left.

The massive coaching downgrade can't be overstated either. I just think it's going to be a horrible season there.

chitownbears22
08-30-2015, 03:28 PM
By no means is that my prediction for them. I would guess 5 wins if I had to make a prediction.

I can however see them winning 2-3 games. I think they have lost too much. Never seen a team have a worse off-season. Seems like half the team either retired or left.

The massive coaching downgrade can't be overstated either. I just think it's going to be a horrible season there.

I think there was a lot of addition by subtraction. Gore, Crabtree, Willis, Justin Smith, and Borland are really just names. Borland was the only guy with any real value at this point. The D gets back Bowman and Reid, which is huge and is going under the radar. Wheeler and Dockett were decent FA adds, and I liked the additions of Taart, Armstead, and Harold in the draft. There was high unexpected turnover, but Tomsula handled it pretty well and looks to be getting everyone on the same page and ready to roll.

88horsepower
08-30-2015, 04:00 PM
I think 6-8 wins is possible. There schedule is brutal though. They are underrated right now by most people because ESPN keeps telling the world they are imploding. The D still looked like it knew what it was doing and the scheme hasn't really changed. And now Kaep has offensive skill players that meet his strengths.

Possible, yes. Likely is a whole different story, but only time will tell. That division is going to be brutal. 2-4 in those 6 games would be an accomplishment. No way they beat Seattle. I can see them splitting with the Rams. Arizona is very tough, so long as Palmer is healthy. I don't see them beating Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Baltimore, Cincy, Atlanta or the Giants. Those last three teams I could potentially see the Niners stealing 1-2 wins from if the stars are lined up. Of course, anything can happen, but I just don't see it. Detroit? Maybe, depending on how the Lions bounce back from losing Suh. Minnesota is up and coming. Chicago should be improved. That leaves the Cleveland game as the one game I can really see them favored in. It's just a brutal schedule for a team with so much going against them. 6-8 wins? Yeah, I guess it could happen, but 3-5 wins seems more likely, IMO.

ntgm37
08-30-2015, 04:02 PM
By no means is that my prediction for them. I would guess 5 wins if I had to make a prediction.

I can however see them winning 2-3 games. I think they have lost too much. Never seen a team have a worse off-season. Seems like half the team either retired or left.

The massive coaching downgrade can't be overstated either. I just think it's going to be a horrible season there.

It will be. I think 4 games is the amount. If they win over 6, I think people will have to give Kaep his due. As you stated, losing Harbaugh is significant to say the least. I feel like it's Baalke trying to prove he is the smartest guy in the room. I hope I'm wrong about Tomsula, but I doubt it.

Seahawks fan
08-30-2015, 04:03 PM
If you go by which team will do better I see the Dolphins by a mile.. as for just QBS sure the 49ers lost Crabtree and Gore but dont forget they gained Torrey Smith and Reggie Bush and that they still have Boldin and Vernon Davis. I don't see the 49ers D being on the field for long and giving up a lot of points so that 49er O will be on the field a lot more. 49ers could be behind most of their games too so he could put up a bunch of garbage time yards. SO who knows it could be alot closer than you think stats wise.

ntgm37
08-30-2015, 04:04 PM
Possible, yes. Likely is a whole different story, but only time will tell. That division is going to be brutal. 2-4 in those 6 games would be an accomplishment. No way they beat Seattle. I can see them splitting with the Rams. Arizona is very tough, so long as Palmer is healthy. I don't see them beating Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Baltimore, Cincy, Atlanta or the Giants. Those last three teams I could potentially see the Niners stealing 1-2 wins from if the stars are lined up. Of course, anything can happen, but I just don't see it. Detroit? Maybe, depending on how the Lions bounce back from losing Suh. Minnesota is up and coming. Chicago should be improved. That leaves the Cleveland game as the one game I can really see them favored in. It's just a brutal schedule for a team with so much going against them. 6-8 wins? Yeah, I guess it could happen, but 3-5 wins seems more likely, IMO.

Kaepernick OWNS the Packers though...I don't see that changing.

Idol
08-30-2015, 05:45 PM
I like Tannehill to have a better season. Better D and weapons I think. Kaep has some decent weapons though. Also Idol is that your personal Stafford collection listed or was that a consignment? It makes mine look like peanuts!


It's my stafford collection :)

trixstar
08-30-2015, 06:01 PM
Tannehill by a mile.

88horsepower
08-30-2015, 06:13 PM
Kaepernick OWNS the Packers though...I don't see that changing.

It's kinda funny how that happens sometimes, where a lesser QB seems to have the upper hand against an elite QB. Ken O'Brien had a better head-to-head win/loss record against Dan Marino. Go figure.

Collectable
08-30-2015, 08:54 PM
I hope this was a joke.