Is this Card Real???

[arodyanksfan]

Hi All,

I came across this card on ebay but it says "CUSTOM" card. So is this guy making fake patch cards? I can't imagine this card is like this for being one of /199???

2014 Panini Custom Playbook Devonta Freeman Nike Patch Relic Booklet Falcons RC | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Panini-CUSTOM-Playbook-Devonta-Freeman-Nike-Patch-Relic-Booklet-Falcons-RC-/171963775598)

I just looked at his other cards and he's 100% making fake patch cards. How is this legal??? And now these cards are going back into the hobby without anything on the card saying its be altered...maybe I'm the only one who sees the wrong in this?

[ninjacookies]

Are you unable to read auction titles and descriptions? It's a scumball move, but he's not intentionally fooling anyone and at least he states its a custom patch instead of the hundreds of other nimrods out there trying to pass off logo patches as the real deal on high end cards.

[arodyanksfan]

Are you unable to read auction titles and descriptions? It's a scumball move, but he's not intentionally fooling anyone and at least he states its a custom patch instead of the hundreds of other nimrods out there trying to pass off logo patches as the real deal on high end cards.

Why are you getting nasty? Are you the seller?

I'm asking if this is right. Just because he sells it as a CUSTOM card, doesn't mean the next guy is going to realize that.

Again why are you being nasty to me>

[DalliLlama11]

I posted this the other day. I dont have an issue with the Manziel so much because its obvious. The Devonta has a swoosh card and has guarantees by another company on it. While the swoosh is usually white, not everyone may know that. That is where the issue is for me.

[Jackg1980]

This is wrong. If he really wanted to make a custom, don't use a license card. Having these fakes into circulation is not good.

[Rmeyers]

Are you unable to read auction titles and descriptions? It's a scumball move, but he's not intentionally fooling anyone and at least he states its a custom patch instead of the hundreds of other nimrods out there trying to pass off logo patches as the real deal on high end cards.

You are lost. He faked a card manufactured by Panini that states the authenticity and this will make it's way into the market now. The card should not be altered when it has a guarantee from the manufacturer on the back. I'm sorry but your comment and reasoning here is just idiotic.

[bedler]

Why are you getting nasty? Are you the seller?

I'm asking if this is right. Just because he sells it as a CUSTOM card, doesn't mean the next guy is going to realize that.

Again why are you being nasty to me>



Some people on blowout are douches man but there's tons of guys on here that are cool as hell and are just here to help too. Just have to ignore the "others"

Custom cards have no value though bud. The sellers take auto stickers off sage cards and put on other cards. Ultimately they shouldn't be able to do it but they do anyways. Personally I wouldn't take a custom card for free even though some look cool they are 200% worthless. They could put a Montana auto on a custom card and sell it for a penny + shipping & I wouldn't waste the shipping on it.

[smackvay]

Some people on blowout are douches man but there's tons of guys on here that are cool as hell and are just here to help too. Just have to ignore the "others"

Custom cards have no value though bud. The sellers take auto stickers off sage cards and put on other cards. Ultimately they shouldn't be able to do it but they do anyways. Personally I wouldn't take a custom card for free even though some look cool they are 200% worthless. They could put a Montana auto on a custom card and sell it for a penny + shipping & I wouldn't waste the shipping on it.


this times 2

[xavieronly1]

If he really wants to sell it as custom, the COA in the back should be crossed out completely.

And then.. one of his cards looks pretty cool.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Topps-Johnny-Manziel-Money-Patch-CUSTOM-1-1-Rookie-Card-BROWNS-Cash-Relic-/171971201817?hash=item280a484b19:g:bI8AAOSwVL1WEJTH

[arodyanksfan]

If he really wants to sell it as custom, the COA in the back should be crossed out completely.

And then.. one of his cards looks pretty cool.
2014 Topps Johnny Manziel Money Patch Custom 1 1 Rookie Card Browns Cash Relic | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Topps-Johnny-Manziel-Money-Patch-CUSTOM-1-1-Rookie-Card-BROWNS-Cash-Relic-/171971201817?hash=item280a484b19:g:bI8AAOSwVL1WEJTH)

It just stinks to me because if the buyer wasn't paying attention or didn't understand what Custom meant, they might sell it or trade it as a regular card and the COA on the back says it is an authentic relic.

I might buy gold bars that are 10KT stamped on them, then stamp them 24KT and call it custom hahaha

These guys make me so sad for the hobby.

[Rmeyers]

It just stinks to me because if the buyer wasn't paying attention or didn't understand what Custom meant, they might sell it or trade it as a regular card and the COA on the back says it is an authentic relic.

I might buy gold bars that are 10KT stamped on them, then stamp them 24KT and call it custom hahaha

These guys make me so sad for the hobby.

I agree with you. Custom cards made from scratch are one thing, but this is forgery.

[rcearley]

Here's another thread about this card.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/football/928261-holy-fake-devonta-freeman.html

[RelicCollector]

I agree with you. Custom cards made from scratch are one thing, but this is forgery.

I would differ on this. The seller clearly states that the card is a Custom, and is not manufactured/authentic to Panini. Seller is not hiding anything, and labeled clearly that it is custom made. How can you not pay attention to the listing when buying something? It is said clearly in the title and description that it is a "custom".

Not defending the seller and I am not saying the seller is right in the situation, but wouldn't call it a forgery.

[Rmeyers]

I would differ on this. The seller clearly states that the card is a Custom, and is not manufactured/authentic to Panini. Seller is not hiding anything, and labeled clearly that it is custom made. How can you not pay attention to the listing when buying something? It is said clearly in the title and description that it is a "custom".

Not defending the seller and I am not saying the seller is right in the situation, but wouldn't call it a forgery.

Maybe forgery is the wrong word, so I will use tampering. He has tampered with a card from Panini that still guarantees the authenticity of the relic it contains. Not sure why everyone is arguing that people cannot "read the title" when that is clearly not the issue here.

Now the winning bidder can take this and sell it to some young naive collector and rip them off.

Everyone on this forum gets all up in arms about fake patches but this is OK??? This guy found a loop hole in faking patches and selling them as customs but I guess since he states it in the title it is ok.

[arodyanksfan]

I would differ on this. The seller clearly states that the card is a Custom, and is not manufactured/authentic to Panini. Seller is not hiding anything, and labeled clearly that it is custom made. How can you not pay attention to the listing when buying something? It is said clearly in the title and description that it is a "custom".

Not defending the seller and I am not saying the seller is right in the situation, but wouldn't call it a forgery.

You are defending the seller. It is 100% illegal. He is taking a card, and trying to increase the value on it by altering it. If you claim its custom, then you have to write that on the actual card. Right now the card has a COA on it that certifies the relic on the front as authentic.

Just because you write CUSTOM doesn't mean its legal and right. The point her is the market place gets these fakes put back into them and its the responsibility of the seller to not put fakes out there.

Also, please tell me where you see "is not manufactured/authentic to Panini"? Because on the back of the card is DOES says its An Authentic Piece.

[rcearley]

I would differ on this. The seller clearly states that the card is a Custom, and is not manufactured/authentic to Panini. Seller is not hiding anything, and labeled clearly that it is custom made. How can you not pay attention to the listing when buying something? It is said clearly in the title and description that it is a "custom".

Not defending the seller and I am not saying the seller is right in the situation, but wouldn't call it a forgery.

What about the person that buys this and then sells it later without it being mentioned as a custom? That's the real problem.

[arodyanksfan]

I would differ on this. The seller clearly states that the card is a Custom, and is not manufactured/authentic to Panini. Seller is not hiding anything, and labeled clearly that it is custom made. How can you not pay attention to the listing when buying something? It is said clearly in the title and description that it is a "custom".

Not defending the seller and I am not saying the seller is right in the situation, but wouldn't call it a forgery.

Think about the Lemon Laws for cars. You can't mis-represent something. You can't roll back to OD and say its been customized. The have laws against that. He NEEDs to write on the card itself that its a customized card and that the patch isn't authentic to the player or the original card.

[arodyanksfan]

What about the person that buys this and then sells it later without it being mentioned as a custom? That's the real problem.

100% correct. Say the item gets lost in the mail, some steals it, and then says "Wow looks at this", goes to a show and sells it.

So this is a huge problem that won't freaken go away. It should be up to EBAY to say no to anyone listing "Custom" cards. They won't though. You can't even report these types of items anymore. Ugh

[Jackg1980]

I would differ on this. The seller clearly states that the card is a Custom, and is not manufactured/authentic to Panini. Seller is not hiding anything, and labeled clearly that it is custom made. How can you not pay attention to the listing when buying something? It is said clearly in the title and description that it is a "custom".

Not defending the seller and I am not saying the seller is right in the situation, but wouldn't call it a forgery.

You are 100% wrong. Should people make custom 100 dollar bills?

[Axe]

I would differ on this. The seller clearly states that the card is a Custom, and is not manufactured/authentic to Panini. Seller is not hiding anything, and labeled clearly that it is custom made. How can you not pay attention to the listing when buying something? It is said clearly in the title and description that it is a "custom".

Not defending the seller and I am not saying the seller is right in the situation, but wouldn't call it a forgery.


Any time a legit card is altered in anyway by anyone not working for said brand, is commiting fraud. Whether they tell people about it means nothing, they are making a fraudulent item, and then releasing it to consumers. A custom card is 100% made by the customizer.

Also, custom cards are not worthless, they just are not highly valued. I think in most cases, customs are more desired if they are made specifically for each consumer, as they know what they want.

[no10pin]

I would differ on this. The seller clearly states that the card is a Custom, and is not manufactured/authentic to Panini. Seller is not hiding anything, and labeled clearly that it is custom made. How can you not pay attention to the listing when buying something? It is said clearly in the title and description that it is a "custom".

Not defending the seller and I am not saying the seller is right in the situation, but wouldn't call it a forgery.

It is 100% a forgery. The only thing that mentions 'custom' is the seller's listing. Once that card is in someone else's hands, there is nothing that indicates that it is not as delivered by Panini. As others have mentioned, there's a Panini guarantee (for whatever that is worth) on the back.

[phinzphan1372]

The word "CUSTOM" (first clue) should not be applied as a term describing these types of cards... I would more accurately describe them as "Modified" or just "Destroyed" .... its a shame.... someone is going to buy this and most likely flip to someone who has no clue and in turn we will end up with a thread in this forum by a new member in the not to distant future asking if this card is real or showing it off in a mail thread