Does anybody else find it hard to like Draymond Green?

[muzikandme]

Sure he has skills I'm not questioning that but I just can't stand the way he approaches the game. Earlier on in the Boston game where he drove on Sullinger and got lightly tapped on the hand and he yells out "and1" and starts thumping his chest. Then a couple of plays later on defense hits IT to the floor and starts thumping his chest again. It's just irritating to watch and I completely understand the competitive nature but it just seems like a real douche thing with him.

[Jasondr91]

Good.....I'm not the only one. Dude can ball, but does come off a douche.

[kmedia1]

Hard to like him, yes.

[currycurrycurry]

Sure he has skills I'm not questioning that but I just can't stand the way he approaches the game. Earlier on in the Boston game where he drove on Sullinger and got lightly tapped on the hand and he yells out "and1" and starts thumping his chest. Then a couple of plays later on defense hits IT to the floor and starts thumping his chest again. It's just irritating to watch and I completely understand the competitive nature but it just seems like a real douche thing with him.

Sullinger starting the talking on the other end when he scored on Dray. The play afterwards Dray scored on him and got the shot + and 1 call.

[elee712]

A guy the home team fans love
A guy teammates love
A guy opponents fans hate
A guy opposing players hate
A guy all teams would love to have

[Rip67vdub]

A guy the home team fans love
A guy teammates love
A guy opponents fans hate
A guy opposing players hate
A guy all teams would love to have

Amen to that! What more can you say. Personally, I met the guy a few times last year. He's the nicest guy you'll meet. Very humble off the court.

[eastbayak]

I love him. I'm biased though since I'm a Dubs fan. But he's himself, he shows you both the good and the bad, and doesn't care. I respect that :)

[tacoma34]

Michiganders love the guy, I root for him.

[muzikandme]

A guy the home team fans love
A guy teammates love
A guy opponents fans hate
A guy opposing players hate
A guy all teams would love to have

Very true statement, Im only commenting on him as a player I would never make a comment on a persons character who I have never met.

[jcardstore]

He yells and 1 on every single shot

[TBarn291]

Yes, very much so.

[Rip67vdub]

Here come the Boston fans....

[kevinh1919]

Here come the Boston fans....

The game just ended - wouldn't that be the norm?

:cool:

[kevinh1919]

A guy the home team fans love
A guy teammates love
A guy opponents fans hate
A guy opposing players hate
A guy all teams would love to have

No argument from me - he's a passionate guy!

:cool:

[rookies]

Yes, very much so.

Wait its tough for you to like green but you have a cp3 card as your avi?????

[ninjacookies]

Dray played a hell of a game.

As I stated before, he's probably the most versatile 4 in the game right now, but gets really overlooked because of Curry's media darling status.


Boston is a fun team to watch this year. They don't play glamorous, but play with a heck load of grit and cohesiveness. Turner and Oly were huge off the bench.

[bkcardcollector]

I am finding it harder and harder to like athletes in general. This chest thumping, wife beating, look at me BS is grinding my gears. Q Herm Edwards rant.

What happened to guys like Hakeem and D Robinson and John Stockton who just go out and get the job done.

These dudes acting like the just saved a baby from a burning building because they score a bucket in the first q is silly.

I am beginning to question my sanity and why I support these clowns. I should just go watch some HS ball and give them some money. They will certainly appreciate it more.

[88horsepower]

I love him only because he plays for my team. If he were on the other side, it would probably be a different story. Either way, guy is a total baller.

[duwal]

I can't see how someone can not like him, his work ethic on and off the court, his charity. A guy that is very close to his mom, gives millions to his past schools. Rewarding/giving back to those that believed in him. He wasn't a top prospect who had it easy, had to fight to have his game noticed

[celtics]

I love him, I wish more players were like him. A guy who will do anything for his teammates and get in his opponents heads.

[Cervantes]

A guy the home team fans love
A guy teammates love
A guy opponents fans hate
A guy opposing players hate
A guy all teams would love to have

Weird, as a Bulls fan, sounds like Joakim Noah.

[soxrulecubs]

That's why I don't watch the NBA any more and just stick to NCAA ball. F'ing crybabies making way too much money!! In fact, seems like only the NFL players deserve their pay checks, risking their brains health every time they take the field like true warriors.......cue Rocky theme song

[advan24r]

Just because he's in the lime light...people talk about him. If you go and mic'd up all the nba players, there's plenty that talk trash. It's normal....as long as he has the skills to back it up....more power to him.

(i.e. Look at Dikembe w/his index finger waive...Steph Curry w/his shimmy...Lebron w/him trying to push the ground tactic...all these actions are just as equal to trash talking.)

So anyone have a Nat'l treasures Green RC Auto to move? =P

[vinsanity15]

I love draymond he the whole team there most important player by far.

[the27guy]

I neither love nor hate the Warriors... But having watched enough of them these past few years, he's agitating. Would I love him if he was on my team? Yes. But unlike some guys, I don't just dislike him when he plays the Jazz. I dislike him against anyone. :)

He's really great though. The passion plus the unique skill set and you probably have a top 10-12 player in the league. And as a guy drafted after festus Ezeli, you gotta give him a lot of credit.

Man I'd love to see SA beat these guys in the playoffs.

[muzikandme]

I am finding it harder and harder to like athletes in general. This chest thumping, wife beating, look at me BS is grinding my gears. Q Herm Edwards rant.

What happened to guys like Hakeem and D Robinson and John Stockton who just go out and get the job done.

These dudes acting like the just saved a baby from a burning building because they score a bucket in the first q is silly.

I am beginning to question my sanity and why I support these clowns. I should just go watch some HS ball and give them some money. They will certainly appreciate it more.

This is pretty true. It isn't just Dray, there are a lot of players who take the cockiness to far. Nothing better then a player who gets it done and is humble on the floor, love watching players like Dirk.

[TBarn291]

Wait its tough for you to like green but you have a cp3 card as your avi?????

Yup... What does CP3 have to do with Draymond Green? I never specified my reasons for finding it hard to like Draymond Green so you can't make any relevant comparisons.

[pac213up]

I like Green quite a bit, makes a lot out of his skill set. As for the yelling and stuff it is sort of par for the course with players these days. Just part of the game. I just wish players were allowed to police this stuff a bit more like they could back in the day.

[rcmb3220]

I am finding it harder and harder to like athletes in general. This chest thumping, wife beating, look at me BS is grinding my gears. Q Herm Edwards rant.

What happened to guys like Hakeem and D Robinson and John Stockton who just go out and get the job done.

These dudes acting like the just saved a baby from a burning building because they score a bucket in the first q is silly.

I am beginning to question my sanity and why I support these clowns. I should just go watch some HS ball and give them some money. They will certainly appreciate it more.

It's good to have a variety of personalities. I doubt the NBA would be as popular if every was like the three you mentioned.

[afrobandit]

I like him, he's flashy. Basketball has gotten so boring in the past 5 years with flopping and constant free throw shooting. When I see Dray care, it makes me care about the game more too. I also can't stand watching players like Timmy D and Dirk, big YAWNNNN.

[jcardstore]

I like him, he's flashy. Basketball has gotten so boring in the past 5 years with flopping and constant free throw shooting. When I see Dray care, it makes me care about the game more too. I also can't stand watching players like Timmy D and Dirk, big YAWNNNN.

So you don't like watching humble champions who have pure skill and talent over flash

[spurs50fan]

I like him, he's flashy. Basketball has gotten so boring in the past 5 years with flopping and constant free throw shooting. When I see Dray care, it makes me care about the game more too. I also can't stand watching players like Timmy D and Dirk, big YAWNNNN.

Too bad, it's been quite the ride.....

Caring also comes in different forms tbh..... Not just screaming for the fans. Like taking less to keep guys around and bring in more talent. Not everyone can "care" about the game when you have to put money where your mouth is. But everyone sees it differently.

All in good fun, but I see :D

http://www.hoopscritic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/TD5.jpg

http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/warriors/sites/default/files/curry_1.jpg

[dasiegel]

I love draymond he the whole team there most important player by far.

:coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee:

As for the OP, yes, he is unlikable because of his cockiness but he is having a hell of a season.

[JasonM32]

I love guys that play with passion. However, these guys are the same ones that are likely to overdo it and end up looking like a d-bag at times. The price you pay.

[elee712]

So you don't like watching humble champions who have pure skill and talent over flash

This is coming from a lebron fan

[oshmeehan]

Draymond took the time tonight after the game to put his diamond earrings in for interviews before even taking off his uniform

[vinsanity15]

Too bad, it's been quite the ride.....

Caring also comes in different forms tbh..... Not just screaming for the fans. Like taking less to keep guys around and bring in more talent. Not everyone can "care" about the game when you have to put money where your mouth is. But everyone sees it differently.

All in good fun, but I see :D

http://www.hoopscritic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/TD5.jpg

http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/warriors/sites/default/files/curry_1.jpg

Love this picture great comeback hahaa lol.

[lindeman79]

Of course I'm in

Michiganders love the guy, I root for him.

[muzikandme]

I like Green quite a bit, makes a lot out of his skill set. As for the yelling and stuff it is sort of par for the course with players these days. Just part of the game. I just wish players were allowed to police this stuff a bit more like they could back in the day.

Agreed the whole jawing thing has become a bit of the norm recently.

[jeg2315]

I think the whole "wish we could go back to the old days" mentality is SO misguided.

Athletes today are faster, stronger and bigger than ever before, making the actual play of the game more intense. Sports also have more exposure in general, requiring more entertainment to attract and keep fans. Especially for such an international sport like basketball.

Personalities make the game and allow it to grow.

[thepinoymamba]

Beast mode

[briancecilrn]

As a State fan it's not hard to like him at all, lol.

[briancecilrn]

As a State fan it's not hard to like him at all, lol.

[JustinVerlander07]

He's my all-time favorite athlete. Haters just are mad he's not on their team, pretty simple.

[blastman]

big time douche

[jcardstore]

This is coming from a lebron fan

Useless input is useless.

What does being a LeBron fan have to do with me liking humble players like Dirk and Duncan? It's like you search for my posts just to add some totally useless comment. If you're that big of a fan I can send you an autograph, you just have to ask.

Too bad the NBA is soft now I would love to see Artest or Rodman just rock draymond right in the face.

[RYBOWSKI97]

he wouldnt of lasted very long in 80s and 90s nba. someone back then would of put him in his place. he is very important to his team and at some point his mouth and attitude will cost him.

[RYBOWSKI97]

I like Green quite a bit, makes a lot out of his skill set. As for the yelling and stuff it is sort of par for the course with players these days. Just part of the game. I just wish players were allowed to police this stuff a bit more like they could back in the day.

i dont like him but agree with the players policing this stuff themselves. think of him doing that crap to barkley, malone, rodman

[elee712]

i dont like him but agree with the players policing this stuff themselves. think of him doing that crap to barkley, malone, rodman

rodman was no mild mannered humble player himself. If anything, Rodman would appreciate it.

[jcardstore]

rodman was no mild mannered humble player himself. If anything, Rodman would appreciate it.

What? Lol Rodman would not appreciate Draymond talking trash to him, thumping his chest after every layup and screaming unnecessarily after every play. Rodman would shut him up real quick with a couple well-placed elbows to the jaw.

[elee712]

What? Lol Rodman would not appreciate Draymond talking trash to him, thumping his chest after every layup and screaming unnecessarily after every play. Rodman would shut him up real quick with a couple well-placed elbows to the jaw.

Rodman was doing the same things himself as well as other things to get under people's skin.

[vinsanity15]

:coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee:

As for the OP, yes, he is unlikable because of his cockiness but he is having a hell of a season.

He is if you watch you would see that. Guy does everything for that team not curry or Klay.

[rcmb3220]

I like Green quite a bit, makes a lot out of his skill set. As for the yelling and stuff it is sort of par for the course with players these days. Just part of the game. I just wish players were allowed to police this stuff a bit more like they could back in the day.

just like baseball does.

[jcardstore]

Rodman was doing the same things himself as well as other things to get under people's skin.

Ok, Sure? He wasn't a likable player either, one of the most hated of all time, so not sure what you're really trying to get at? If you're saying the Green isn't a likable player then yea, you're right.

[duwal]

he wouldnt of lasted very long in 80s and 90s nba. someone back then would of put him in his place. he is very important to his team and at some point his mouth and attitude will cost him.

He honestly probably would have flourished even better back then, back before all of the weak tap calls, a lot more physicality in the league. There were so many more fights/scuffles with guys like Draymond Green back then

[elee712]

Ok, Sure? He wasn't a likable player either, one of the most hated of all time, so not sure what you're really trying to get at? If you're saying the Green isn't a likable player then yea, you're right.

Yes, like I said...hated if he's not on your team, loved if he's on your team and every team would love to have him.

Rodman might be different because he's got a couple screws loose. All teams may not have wanted him. It took someone like a Jordan to keep him from killing team chemistry.

[elee712]

he wouldnt of lasted very long in 80s and 90s nba. someone back then would of put him in his place. he is very important to his team and at some point his mouth and attitude will cost him.

Guys have been doing it for years. Mutombo finger waving...kemp after emphatic dunks...

Is it a big deal now because Draymond's on a team that most people hate (and Hate On)...on this forum?

[jcardstore]

Guys have been doing it for years. Mutombo finger waving...kemp after emphatic dunks...

Is it a big deal now because Draymond's on a team that most people hate (and Hate On)...on this forum?

It has nothing to do with him being on the Warriors. If he was on any other team and acted the way he does people would still dislike him.

Although, people sure wouldn't be talking about him as much if he wasn't on the warriors.

[jkl165116]

I live in the Bay Area and only have access to warriors ball so I watch every game. Since last year I've been noticing draymond consistently screaming and1 which I felt non warrior fans would find annoying. I also saw Andre iguodala always shrugging whenever a foul is called on him and acting like it was a wrong call even when many times it was not.
One of the worst things though was how o.co would react (boo and gasp) to all calls against them even when they were wrong. But being on their side it's easy to overlook it lol

[briancecilrn]

i dont like him but agree with the players policing this stuff themselves. think of him doing that crap to barkley, malone, rodman

What would Barkley do? Spit on him? What would Malone do? Flex and then do a lay-up on him? What would Rodman do? Get 20 rebounds dressed as a woman?

I think they would put him on hiss a$$, but I don't think they would scare him if that's what you think.

[currycurrycurry]

So tired of hearing from all the old dudes on here about how the 80s and 90s players were back then. They talk as though guys from back then were carrying guns or something into a gang battle or something...sheesh.

[TheVolta]

So tired of hearing from all the old dudes on here about how the 80s and 90s players were back then. They talk as though guys from back then were carrying guns or something into a gang battle or something...sheesh.

I love Draymond Green, I wish he were on Dallas. He's a fantastic team guy who very much helps with chemistry.

However, I do sort of feel that the outlawing of hand checking (2004-05) and the implementation of the defensive three second rule (2001-02) make offense much much easier. Just imagine the NBA without a defensive three second rule today..... with post players just chilling under the hoop, very few perimeter players would even drive to the basket.

[padsfan10]

Ok. Well I'm going to be a bit bias because I'm a Clippers fan but still think any person in their right mind would want him on your team. Plain and simple he brings energy and has a lot of drive.

But he's been reckless before, hitting Blake in the throat a couple years back and then last year I believe stuck out his tongue at Blake in his face running down the court. Not good character traits but I guess if you are pumped, the emotions get the better of you.

What I see bigger picture is that there doesn't seem to be fire to beat the champs. You don't see teams getting after the Warriors, playing chippy, etc. I get the public loves the Warriors (and I grew up right next door to Oakland) but I don't hear or see a lot of we're gunning for the Warriors mentality. Yes they've lost one game and are virtually unstoppable but maybe that's part of why they are winning so much?

[Quigley24]

What I see bigger picture is that there doesn't seem to be fire to beat the champs. You don't see teams getting after the Warriors, playing chippy, etc. I get the public loves the Warriors (and I grew up right next door to Oakland) but I don't hear or see a lot of we're gunning for the Warriors mentality.

This is something I can't understand. They're the defending champs. They're heavily a finesse team. Their 3rd best player is a douche who won't stop jawing and beating his chest at you. They're by far most vulnerable when they're worn down. WHY THE HELL AREN'T TEAMS KNOCKING THEM AROUND!? Not only is it by far the most effective method against them (especially when other teams adopt the method as well), but everything about them should make you WANT to body them up, play physical, and knock them around.

[MeetJSquared]

Yes, like I said...hated if he's not on your team, loved if he's on your team and every team would love to have him.

This sums it up for me. Same goes for guys like Joakim Noah and Chris Paul.

[jcardstore]

This sums it up for me. Same goes for guys like Joakim Noah and Chris Paul.

I don't understand why people don't like Paul. Noah definitely agree with but not Paul. So what he talks trash on the court? Definitely doesn't come off as a douche like Green or Noah

[MeetJSquared]

I don't understand why people don't like Paul. Noah definitely agree with but not Paul. So what he talks trash on the court? Definitely doesn't come off as a douche like Green or Noah

I used to like him in New Orleans. Maybe it's a bit of the Lakers bias (but I do like Blake), he just seemed to take it up a notch on the annoying side since joining the Clips. Or just because he gets tons more media press in LA so you see it ALL THE TIME.

I'm not really sure what it is. KG talks a lot of trash, but I've never hated him like I do Paul. And that includes him being on the Celtics for a time.

[elee712]

This is something I can't understand. They're the defending champs. They're heavily a finesse team. Their 3rd best player is a douche who won't stop jawing and beating his chest at you. They're by far most vulnerable when they're worn down. WHY THE HELL AREN'T TEAMS KNOCKING THEM AROUND!? Not only is it by far the most effective method against them (especially when other teams adopt the method as well), but everything about them should make you WANT to body them up, play physical, and knock them around.

Seems easier said than done. Draymond would probably welcome physical play, bogut has mastered it and it's hard to rough up curry when he's out 25-30 feet launching shots. Best strategy I've seen is trying to get curry in foul trouble early. Paul does a good job getting a couple fouls early on him but can't seem to capitalize on that to beat the warriors.

[freethrowtommy]

A guy the home team fans love
A guy teammates love
A guy opponents fans hate
A guy opposing players hate
A guy all teams would love to have

Pretty much it, yeah.

[jcardstore]

Seems easier said than done. Draymond would probably welcome physical play, bogut has mastered it and it's hard to rough up curry when he's out 25-30 feet launching shots. Best strategy I've seen is trying to get curry in foul trouble early. Paul does a good job getting a couple fouls early on him but can't seem to capitalize on that to beat the warriors.
This is the most effective strategy against every player in the entire NBA... lol

If you really want to slow down GS force curry off the 3pt line and make him beat you with midrange jumpers. Also, make him work on defense. It's no coincidence GS puts Klay on the opponents best guard.

[Muzzy66]

Yes...

I love his game, but hate the way he carries himself.

He screams after every make, screams after every miss, screams after every foul he commits, screams after every foul committed against him, screams when he stands, screams when he sits, screams when he falls.

Very irritating individual. Too much screaming. Just shut up and play your game.

Then again I've been a big KG fan my whole life, so everything I just said is a bit hypocritical lol

[Muzzy66]

This sums it up for me. Same goes for guys like Joakim Noah and Chris Paul.

Disagree on both counts.

I hate Noah as a opponent, and I'd also never want him on my team. Whiny girl, and the only thing he's good at is defense (which he's not as good at anymore).

Paul I've always like as an opponent, and would love on my team too.

:)

[elee712]

This is the most effective strategy against every player in the entire NBA... lol

If you really want to slow down GS force curry off the 3pt line and make him beat you with midrange jumpers. Also, make him work on defense. It's no coincidence GS puts Klay on the opponents best guard.

They haven't done this since 2013. Steph guards the pg and klay guards the sg.

[jcardstore]

They haven't done this since 2013. Steph guards the pg and klay guards the sg.

Let me give you an example. The Milwaukee game since it's fresh in my memory. Steph started out on the PG both mayo and MCW. Sometime around the mid 2nd quarter they took steph off MCW and switched between klay and andre. Pretty sure in the Boston game he wasn't guarding IT the majority of the time either.

Steph is just not a great man defender, you may think so but it's really because they play amazing team defense

[elee712]

Let me give you an example. The Milwaukee game since it's fresh in my memory. Steph started out on the PG both mayo and MCW. Sometime around the mid 2nd quarter they took steph off MCW and switched between klay and andre. Pretty sure in the Boston game he wasn't guarding IT the majority of the time either.

Steph is just not a great man defender, you may think so but it's really because they play amazing team defense

Generally speaking curry is the one guarding Paul, Lillard, Conley and the other point guards in the league. I'll take your word on the fact he didn't guard MCW...he's 6'6. Who was playing alongside him at the time? No team plays straight up man anymore and obviously there will be times matchups will be exploited. In the Jackson era, Klay would always guard the best opponents guard. It changed when Kerr took over.

How Stephen Curry developed into a top-flight defender (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12648764/how-stephen-curry-developed-top-flight-defender)

[jcardstore]

Generally speaking curry is the one guarding Paul, Lillard, Conley and the other point guards in the league. I'll take your word on the fact he didn't guard MCW...he's 6'6. Who was playing alongside him at the time? No team plays straight up man anymore and obviously there will be times matchups will be exploited. In the Jackson era, Klay would always guard the best opponents guard. It changed when Kerr took over.

How Stephen Curry developed into a top-flight defender (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12648764/how-stephen-curry-developed-top-flight-defender)

Last year that was true, maybe it's Walton but (at least recently, last 10 games or so) Steph is definitely not spending the majority of his time defending the opponents best guard.

The Raptors game, from what I remember Curry started off guarding Lowry, got beat consistently in the first half and in the second half mostly stood around the 3pt line on Derozan because Lowry beat him off the dribble every chance he got

[TheVolta]

I thought this was funny

A Chat With Draymond Green's Mom, NBA Trash Talk Legend | GQ (http://www.gq.com/story/interview-with-mary-babers-green)

[exoticprince]

If you're on his team you love him, otherwise you hate him. Personally I think he acts like a punk. He needs someone like Shaq or Malone in the league to whipe the floor with him

[CubKings]

If you're on his team you love him, otherwise you hate him. Personally I think he acts like a punk. He needs someone like Shaq or Malone in the league to whipe the floor with him

That would be nice. But it's a sissy league now. I was hoping LeBron would light him up last night, but he didn't.

[exoticprince]

That would be nice. But it's a sissy league now. I was hoping LeBron would light him up last night, but he didn't.

Yes. The NBA has gotten soft. I still remember the playoff battles in the good days. 10x more physical than it is today. But I still love this game

[kairi-2008]

I find it funny that so many people here think today's game is soft and how it could never compete with the great 90's. And yet one of the few players that could have played in that style of game gets so much hate.
The scuffle with LBJ at end of game 4 was not Greens fault. If James is saying that was all over being called a Beach, the Warriors need to tell every player to get in his ear from the start of the next game. James was frustrated, Green is just the kind of player the sees it and lifts from it.
I personally think he is a very good player, if I was a GSW fan I would not let him leave when his time comes.

[UltimateDeron]

He's like Joakim Noah. You hate him but deep down its because he's not on your team. Draymond is one of my favorite players, and it's because of how hard he plays the game.

[exoticprince]

He's like Joakim Noah. You hate him but deep down its because he's not on your team. Draymond is one of my favorite players, and it's because of how hard he plays the game.

No doubt he's one of the best all around players in the game right now. He just knows how to really get in your head if you're against him or a fan of the opposing team. It's actually a great skill that people like Noah and Rodman also had.

[Orangejello727]

No doubt he's one of the best all around players in the game right now. He just knows how to really get in your head if you're against him or a fan of the opposing team. It's actually a great skill that people like Noah and Rodman also had.

John Stockton used to do it as well. Bill Lambeer, Larry Bird were all major trash talkers on court.

[IronMonkey415]

Remember Stockton and his deadly sneaky elbow

[exoticprince]

John Stockton used to do it as well. Bill Lambeer, Larry Bird were all major trash talkers on court.

Who can forget Regie Miller, the king of trash talk. Draymond just knows how to really get in your head, but hey it's a great skill.

[Mongol]

Gary Payton and MJ were the kings of trash talk.
Draymond is super annoying and gets away with
Clapping annoyingly in opponents faces, punching or kicking nutt sacks.
He's a damn fool.

[wonderful]

The Raptors could use him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!He is a pain, but effective. The Raptors have been looking for someone like him. Too many passive players and not enough sandpaper!