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ljandkg
12-14-2015, 01:11 PM
This is way off from Rondo. Glad he got canned for a while.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-referee-bill-kennedy-reveals-he-is-gay--rajon-rondo-made-alleged-homosexual-slur-to-him-174255321.html

vinsanity15
12-14-2015, 01:18 PM
Ya you can't say that to someone but in all fairness Rondo did not know he was gay to be fair. Still he should not of said that to the refs. Also it was in the heat of the game I still like him but this was a slip up.

motu79
12-14-2015, 01:20 PM
What a dumbsh!t. One of my least favorite players even before this news.

alanlam
12-14-2015, 01:22 PM
Ya you can't say that to someone but in all fairness Rondo did not know he was gay to be fair. Still he should not of said that to the refs. Also it was in the heat of the game I still like him but this was a slip up.

I was gonna say something similar. Using that language is inexcusable and he deserved to be suspended.

But the article title makes it sound like he went after a gay man with homophobic slurs. The ref came out a week after Rondo blew up.

ljandkg
12-14-2015, 01:23 PM
I was gonna say something similar. Using that language is inexcusable and he deserved to be suspended.

But the article title makes it sound like he went after a gay man with homophobic slurs. The ref came out a week after Rondo blew up.

So you think he'd have used those same slurs to other refs?

IronMonkey415
12-14-2015, 01:25 PM
I remember back in 2010 they all thougt Rondo would star in Twilight...LOL

Rajon Rondo to star in Twilight ? (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164099)

Orangejello727
12-14-2015, 01:25 PM
So you think he'd have used those same slurs to other refs?

No. I think Rondo knew he was gay. Although players shouldn't be shouting that kind of stuff, people today are generally hyper sensitive and make mountains of ant hills to say the least.

It was wrong of Rondo to so. Ref is way overly too sensitive to name calling

cruiserdaddy7
12-14-2015, 01:26 PM
So you think he'd have used those same slurs to other refs?

Many guys do, so yeah

alanlam
12-14-2015, 01:26 PM
So you think he'd have used those same slurs to other refs?

I would assume so. If he said it now, I'd be willing to bet he's done it plenty of times before. How would he know Bill Kennedy was gay?

ljandkg
12-14-2015, 01:29 PM
No. I think Rondo knew he was gay. Although players shouldn't be shouting that kind of stuff, people today are generally hyper sensitive and make mountains of ant hills to say the least.

It was wrong of Rondo to so. Ref is way overly too sensitive to name calling

Riiiiiggght.

xavieronly1
12-14-2015, 01:30 PM
So you think he'd have used those same slurs to other refs?

His words are pretty common when you just want to yell at someone.

xavieronly1
12-14-2015, 01:32 PM
No. I think Rondo knew he was gay. Although players shouldn't be shouting that kind of stuff, people today are generally hyper sensitive and make mountains of ant hills to say the least.

It was wrong of Rondo to so. Ref is way overly too sensitive to name calling

How did Rondo know? Did the ref tell Rondo before the public announcement? Or Rondo slept with the ref?

alanlam
12-14-2015, 01:32 PM
No. I think Rondo knew he was gay. Although players shouldn't be shouting that kind of stuff, people today are generally hyper sensitive and make mountains of ant hills to say the least.

It was wrong of Rondo to so. Ref is way overly too sensitive to name calling

I don't see how Rondo could possibly know that a ref was gay. Its not like players are hanging out with refs on their off nights.

Also, the refs weren't being overly sensitive. It's not PC to say that you shouldn't call someone a slur - racial or sexuality related.

Orangejello727
12-14-2015, 01:36 PM
I don't see how Rondo could possibly know that a ref was gay. Its not like players are hanging out with refs on their off nights.

Also, the refs weren't being overly sensitive. It's not PC to say that you shouldn't call someone a slur - racial or sexuality related.

I never said its okay to do so. What I said was its wrong to do so, but it happens and at the end of the day its filed under name calling. Ive been called worse during my years. I survived.

jr24ai3
12-14-2015, 01:41 PM
Whether he knew he was gay or not, he shouldn't have said it. Guys have been fined before for using a slur and it wasn't directed towards a gay person. If he knew he was gay then it makes it worse.

I think this ref has been around all of Rondo's career. If you are around someone that long, there is a chance people picked up on the idea that he was gay. Athletes have said that they knew teammates were gay even though they never came out.

the27guy
12-14-2015, 01:42 PM
I never said its okay to do so. What I said was its wrong to do so, but it happens and at the end of the day its filed under name calling. Ive been called worse during my years. I survived.

I'm with you on this oj. Nearly every person has been grouped, classified, steriotyped based in their skin color, religion, sexual orientation. It's not okay. Period.

But, when it does happen people need to take the high road. People get offended and then never forgive. Not saying that's what Kennedy is doing here. Hopefully he's quick to forgive. That's the best way to show rondo that he's a bigger man.

Orangejello727
12-14-2015, 01:45 PM
I'm with you on this oj. Nearly every person has been grouped, classified, steriotyped based in their skin color, religion, sexual orientation. It's not okay. Period.

But, when it does happen people need to take the high road. People get offended and then never forgive. Not saying that's what Kennedy is doing here. Hopefully he's quick to forgive. That's the best way to show rondo that he's a bigger man.

People say mean and hateful things when they are angry and not in control of emotions. They say stuff they would never say to you in any normal circumstance. Its bigger of the person on the receiving end to understand the guy is upset and when he cools off, he will see that he was in the wrong. Happens everyday... cant let it get to you.... Just incase, ill mention it again, its still wrong to say them things still...

alanlam
12-14-2015, 01:47 PM
Whether he knew he was gay or not, he shouldn't have said it. Guys have been fined before for using a slur and it wasn't directed towards a gay person. If he knew he was gay then it makes it worse.

I think this ref has been around all of Rondo's career. If you are around someone that long, there is a chance people picked up on the idea that he was gay. Athletes have said that they knew teammates were gay even though they never came out.

Totally with you on the first point.

I just dont see it on the second part. You're spending every single day with your teammates. Travel, locker rooms, practice, restaurants, bars. Sure, you're probably more likely to pick up on something. You only see refs at games and you don't get the same refs every game. And when players see them they basically just yell at them. Especially Rondo.

xavieronly1
12-14-2015, 01:51 PM
Totally with you on the first point.

I just dont see it on the second part. You're spending every single day with your teammates. Travel, locker rooms, practice, restaurants, bars. Sure, you're probably more likely to pick up on something. You only see refs at games and you don't get the same refs every game. And when players see them they basically just yell at them. Especially Rondo.

People talk stuff and rumors. You will be surprised how someone in other field office knows something about you even though you never work with that person.

thenwhatjk
12-14-2015, 01:53 PM
I never said its okay to do so. What I said was its wrong to do so, but it happens and at the end of the day its filed under name calling. Ive been called worse during my years. I survived.

Did this gay ref not survive?

smalltown
12-14-2015, 01:53 PM
People say mean and hateful things when they are angry and not in control of emotions. They say stuff they would never say to you in any normal circumstance.

Doesn't make it right.

xavieronly1
12-14-2015, 01:57 PM
Doesn't make it right.

And somehow the article makes Rondo like an anti-gay person. It does not make it right.

spurs50fan
12-14-2015, 01:58 PM
Kobe got fined? Did the rules changed recently?

Not drawing a parallel or saying he shouldn't have gotten suspended.

Orangejello727
12-14-2015, 02:06 PM
People say mean and hateful things when they are angry and not in control of emotions. They say stuff they would never say to you in any normal circumstance. Its bigger of the person on the receiving end to understand the guy is upset and when he cools off, he will see that he was in the wrong. Happens everyday... cant let it get to you.... Just incase, ill mention it again, its still wrong to say them things still...

Doesn't make it right.

It makes it easier if you quote the whole thing rather than selectively choosing pieces of my post to make it seem like I think its okay. If you had included the end of my comment, you would clearly see that I believe its still wrong to say things like that.

Athey49
12-14-2015, 02:11 PM
Kobe got fined? Did the rules changed recently?

Not drawing a parallel or saying he shouldn't have gotten suspended.

I was thinking the suspension was due to the technicals, could be wrong though

IamRalpho
12-14-2015, 02:16 PM
Rondo knew he was gay.

Doc Rivers called him a slur a few years ago, and Rondo was on that team.

xavieronly1
12-14-2015, 02:16 PM
I was thinking the suspension was due to the technicals, could be wrong though

The suspension was issued 3 days ago. Somehow, media links two things together.


Kings' Rajon Rondo suspended one game over saying 'offensive term' to ref (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/kings/2015/12/11/rajon-rondo-sacramento-kings-referee-technical-suspension/77181244/)

alanlam
12-14-2015, 02:17 PM
I take back what I said. This is from 2010. Rondo's just a dick.

Donaghy Claim: Bill Kennedy’s sexuality at root of hatred for Doc | Red's Army - The Voice of Boston Celtics Fans (http://redsarmy.com/2010/05/11/donaghy-claim-bill-kennedys-sexuality-at-root-of-hatred-for-doc/)

That group of Celtics is a real class act. Rondo. Doc apparently saying something to this guy. KG had a thing a few years ago where he yelled the same thing as Rondo (Don't point that out to the OP though).

EDIT: I missed Ralph pointing this out but what Ralph said is in the link.

smalltown
12-14-2015, 02:20 PM
It makes it easier if you quote the whole thing rather than selectively choosing pieces of my post to make it seem like I think its okay. If you had included the end of my comment, you would clearly see that I believe its still wrong to say things like that.

I'm being selective because that's the only point that really matters. Rondo was in the wrong - Period. It doesn't matter that he was upset. It doesn't matter who he said it to. All that matters is that he was in the wrong. It's not acceptable and

And somehow the article makes Rondo like an anti-gay person. It does not make it right.

The article makes him look like an individual who is unable to control himself and has little respect for those who with he works. To make it worse he denys saying any of it despite being on tape. Just apologize. Sad.

smalltown
12-14-2015, 02:21 PM
I was thinking the suspension was due to the technicals, could be wrong though

It was for:

"directing a derogatory and offensive term towards a game official and not leaving the court in a timely manner."

Athey49
12-14-2015, 02:26 PM
The suspension was issued 3 days ago. Somehow, media links two things together.


Kings' Rajon Rondo suspended one game over saying 'offensive term' to ref (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/kings/2015/12/11/rajon-rondo-sacramento-kings-referee-technical-suspension/77181244/)

It was for:

"directing a derogatory and offensive term towards a game official and not leaving the court in a timely manner."

Thanks for the clear up, now I know.

thenwhatjk
12-14-2015, 02:29 PM
The night after Brad Miller got in a bloody altercation with rondo in the playoffs some years back, I was at a steakhouse for work. I went to use the restroom, and it was one of those that has a bathroom attendant. There was a lengthy line to wash one's hands due to the guy handing out moist towelettes and breath mints or whatever, so I said screw it and left.

Who is the first face I see when I open the bathroom door? Rajon Rondo.

I immediately shake his hand.

groundsupport
12-14-2015, 02:30 PM
Who's Rondo?

jcardstore
12-14-2015, 02:43 PM
Who's Rondo?

This is good content :)!

duron
12-14-2015, 03:13 PM
lol, do you know how furious Rondo must be right now? Wish we could see his reaction to the suspension on camera :popcorn:

jlzinck
12-14-2015, 03:17 PM
Ya you can't say that to someone but in all fairness Rondo did not know he was gay to be fair. Still he should not of said that to the refs. Also it was in the heat of the game I still like him but this was a slip up.

Yup. I'm in the basketball forum

duron
12-14-2015, 03:19 PM
Yup. I'm in the basketball forum

vinsanity is known to be just that, insane. we're mostly normal here, I swear

Hallco
12-14-2015, 03:41 PM
Would it have been more appropriate to just quote Joe Decrux?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/453/053/f3c.jpg

ljandkg
12-14-2015, 03:53 PM
I take back what I said. This is from 2010. Rondo's just a dick.

Donaghy Claim: Bill Kennedy’s sexuality at root of hatred for Doc | Red's Army - The Voice of Boston Celtics Fans (http://redsarmy.com/2010/05/11/donaghy-claim-bill-kennedys-sexuality-at-root-of-hatred-for-doc/)

That group of Celtics is a real class act. Rondo. Doc apparently saying something to this guy. KG had a thing a few years ago where he yelled the same thing as Rondo (Don't point that out to the OP though).

EDIT: I missed Ralph pointing this out but what Ralph said is in the link.


Whaaaat! Find it..... :eek::D

duron
12-14-2015, 03:59 PM
Whaaaat! Find it..... :eek::D

I mean it's KG so it makes sense.

alanlam
12-14-2015, 04:10 PM
Whaaaat! Find it..... :eek::D

This is probably NSFW.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEZQ6c6F0IM

ljandkg
12-14-2015, 04:11 PM
I mean it's KG so it makes sense.

He did have a pretty low crack at Villanueva if the stories are true. Then there's the Melo's wife thing, but not heard anything homophobic.

I'm under no illusions about KG being a saint on the court! :D

alanlam
12-14-2015, 04:19 PM
He did have a pretty low crack at Villanueva if the stories are true. Then there's the Melo's wife thing, but not heard anything homophobic.

I'm under no illusions about KG being a saint on the court! :D
I don't think it should change your opinion on someone unless they become hardened in their stance that they should keep calling people names that offend people.

They grew up in an era where it was okay to use homophobic slurs. If nobody tells you any different, you don't know that its not okay. Ideally you learn from your mistakes.

I despise Kobe but I think he did the best he could after he got caught mouthing it to a ref. He's spoken out a few times on why its not okay to say things like that since then.

IamRalpho
12-14-2015, 04:21 PM
Rondo knew he was gay.

He absolutely did. I dunno why people are pretending he didnt.

Rondo should've talked to the media today, apologized, owned it and moved on like Kobe/Noah.

Disappointed in Rondo doing this

BigSeph
12-14-2015, 04:45 PM
Well I just hope the NBA is consistent and does the same to protect chubby refs being called "tubby" or female refs being called "chick."

Get the suspension forms ready!

IamRalpho
12-14-2015, 05:05 PM
Well I just hope the NBA is consistent and does the same to protect chubby refs being called "tubby" or female refs being called "chick."

Get the suspension forms ready!

No ones been suspended for words before. So Silver's decision should be interesting

xavieronly1
12-14-2015, 05:24 PM
No ones been suspended for words before. So Silver's decision should be interesting

11/30/10
The NBA suspended Stephen Jackson (Cha) for 1 game for verbally abusing
the refs and failing to leave the court in a timely manner following his
ejection from Saturday's Mil-Cha game.

vinsanity15
12-14-2015, 05:25 PM
I was gonna say something similar. Using that language is inexcusable and he deserved to be suspended.

But the article title makes it sound like he went after a gay man with homophobic slurs. The ref came out a week after Rondo blew up.

Exactly I still like rondo have no problem with him poor chocie of words at the time he did not know guy was gay let's move on.

vinsanity15
12-14-2015, 05:30 PM
His words are pretty common when you just want to yell at someone.

Exactly I play ball and I hear it all the time alot of people use that langue when they play is it right no but it is what it is. Does not make it right though.

asujbl
12-14-2015, 05:30 PM
Exactly I still like rondo have no problem with him poor chocie of words at the time he did not know guy was gay let's move on.

Good to see you ignored most of this entire thread

vinsanity15
12-14-2015, 05:35 PM
Good to see you ignored most of this entire thread

Did he know he was gay that all I'm asking if he did it completely messed up but if not how do you want him to know that all I'm saying. And we all know that type of langue is probably used all the time in NBA games, like I said before does not make it right but in the heat of the game it just slips out for some guys that all I'm saying.

IamRalpho
12-14-2015, 05:39 PM
11/30/10
The NBA suspended Stephen Jackson (Cha) for 1 game for verbally abusing
the refs and failing to leave the court in a timely manner following his
ejection from Saturday's Mil-Cha game.

Yes, but no ones been suspended for calling someone a slur is my point.

Rondo was out of line but I dont think Id call him verbally abusive.

I only pull for
12-14-2015, 05:44 PM
looks like rondo got it right, what's the problem.

vinsanity15
12-14-2015, 05:51 PM
[QUOTE=duron;10230525]vinsanity is known to be just that, insane. we're mostly normal here, I swear[/QU

Whatever you say bro, think it might be the other way around but it cool haha i do me lol.

ljandkg
12-14-2015, 05:53 PM
Exactly I play ball and I hear it all the time alot of people use that langue when they play is it right no but it is what it is. Does not make it right though.


It's not common in sports in NZ and Oz anymore. I've played b'ball for years and never heard a racial or homophobic slur. Still plenty of racial ignorance in general society.
Guys get picked up for it and banned in the major sports. I like to think people have moved on from this and are more educated when they're in the public eye.
Totally agree about Rondo apologising.

vinsanity15
12-14-2015, 05:59 PM
It's not common in sports in NZ and Oz anymore. I've played b'ball for years and never heard a racial or homophobic slur. Still plenty of racial ignorance in general society.
Guys get picked up for it and banned in the major sports. I like to think people have moved on from this and are more educated when they're in the public eye.
Totally agree about Rondo apologising.

Okay that with the people you play with. When i play i still hear it all the time, and a lot of the time it is directed at me lol but do i get offended no it is what it is. Does it make it right no but that how it is in the heat of the game sometimes gotta deal with it.

alanlam
12-14-2015, 06:37 PM
looks like rondo got it right, what's the problem.

Never mind, this is the sensitive p**y generation.

I always get a kick out of you old grandpas getting all fussy. 'This generation Is too whiny and soft' while you whine about how it used to be and long for the days where you could call someone a slur that offends them without worrying about any repercussions. You guys are the best.

Looking forward to seeing you amongst the treasured list of PBMs soon!

ljandkg
12-14-2015, 06:38 PM
Okay that with the people you play with. When i play i still hear it all the time, and a lot of the time it is directed at me lol but do i get offended no it is what it is. Does it make it right no but that how it is in the heat of the game sometimes gotta deal with it.

That's a shame. But yeah, rise above I guess.

vinsanity15
12-14-2015, 06:51 PM
That's a shame. But yeah, rise above I guess.

Haha ya that how it is does not bother me at all just have to ignor it and know it not personal and it in the heat of the game that all. So many times I get called names by someone or I call them a name and after the game we on the line to shake hands and we laugh about it and say it all good. Can't get to personal like I said it all within the game should it be no but that how it is.

vinsanity15
12-14-2015, 06:54 PM
I always get a kick out of you old grandpas getting all fussy. 'This generation Is too whiny and soft' while you whine about how it used to be and long for the days where you could call someone a slur that offends them without worrying about any repercussions. You guys are the best.

Looking forward to seeing you amongst the treasured list of PBMs soon!

I get what he is saying and what you are saying there is a line between both. Are people way to sensitive now a days ya and it pisses me off. But like you said you can't just go around saying hateful crap to people. You have to know what context it in and can't be to sensitive that all.

smalltown
12-14-2015, 07:10 PM
Yes, but no ones been suspended for calling someone a slur is my point.

Rondo was out of line but I dont think Id call him verbally abusive.

First to be suspended. But others have been fined for such stupidity.

Rondo is the third NBA player to be punished for the use of anti-gay slurs, but the first to be suspended. Chicago Bulls center Joakim Noah was fined $50,000 during the 2011 playoffs for making a slur toward a heckling fan, and Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant was fined $100,000 for using an anti-gay slur toward a referee earlier that same season. Both players apologized for the comments.

ninjacookies
12-14-2015, 07:41 PM
I'm sure Panini is hot on its heels trying to include some Jason Collins/Bill Kennedy duals before the Eminence pack out.

gatorboymike
12-14-2015, 10:11 PM
I'm sure Panini is hot on its heels trying to include some Jason Collins/Bill Kennedy duals before the Eminence pack out.

They should also make a triple auto of Rondo, Karl Malone and Tim Hardaway. And then soak them in piss before inserting them in packs.

IamRalpho
12-14-2015, 10:15 PM
I like Rondo, will always like him for what he did and how fun he was to watch.

But this sucks, he needs to be better and fix this image of his.

Tweeting an apology? Come on

xavieronly1
12-14-2015, 10:39 PM
Exactly I play ball and I hear it all the time alot of people use that langue when they play is it right no but it is what it is. Does not make it right though.

And where did I say it is ok to say such language?

rookies
12-14-2015, 10:42 PM
I like Rondo, will always like him for what he did and how fun he was to watch.

But this sucks, he needs to be better and fix this image of his.

Tweeting an apology? Come on

He didnt tweet an apology? Just for fun I asked Rondo if I could get a picture with him he was outside in a corner eating alone at a table and pretending to talk on the phone he said straight up to me "Fu@@ off" I said come on man Im a fan you should be a phoenix sun (this was in scottsdale when they played the suns) and he said no and that was that. Bad guy in general

Rareairx23
12-14-2015, 10:45 PM
He didnt tweet an apology? Just for fun I asked Rondo if I could get a picture with him he was outside in a corner eating alone at a table and pretending to talk on the phone he said straight up to me "Fu@@ off" I said come on man Im a fan you should be a phoenix sun (this was in scottsdale when they played the suns) and he said no and that was that. Bad guy in general

I honestly believe this

vinsanity15
12-14-2015, 10:45 PM
And where did I say it is ok to say such language?

Maybe I misunderstood you if I did my bad bro.

Giantrobot
12-14-2015, 11:24 PM
Even as a diehard Celtics fan, I never much cared for Rondo beyond being a dazzling passer. Very unlikeable personality.

mghbnz
12-14-2015, 11:56 PM
1 game suspension isn't much. Rondo was frustrated, I would of done the same thing if I got ejected for staring at a ref. Can't wait to see him back on the court on Friday against KG and the Wolves !

Cervantes
12-15-2015, 12:09 AM
Bomani Jones had a great take on this tonight, on his show, with info that shed light on this situation.

According to him (and sources) Rondo knew about the guy's sexuality and there is a history between them (ref and Rondo/Celtics) going back 5-6 years.

I get the whole notion that some people are so tough that they'd shrug off any kind of words directed their way. I'm sure some of you wouldn't have a problem being called a racial slur, or maybe your wife called a derogatory term, because, hey, I don't want to be a softie. lol yeah, right.

I know there's plenty to shrug off, but in that situation, given that the man IS a homosexual, and Rondo DID know it, and especially, while it's a game to you, it's actually a PROFESSION to BOTH of them...it was totally inappropriate and uncalled for. Period.

Call someone that in your workplace. You'll get fired. Maybe sued. Like it or not, that's life.

As I've gotten older, and became a father, I like to take a step back and ask myself, ''What if that was MY kid'' going through whatever the situation is. Ask yourself that...

Let me be the guy to do the hypothetical: If Joey Crawford called Rondo the dreaded "N" word (< I hate that phrase...N word), would Rondo shrug it off?

Doubt it.

Cervantes
12-15-2015, 12:11 AM
1 game suspension isn't much. Rondo was frustrated, I would of done the same thing if I got ejected for staring at a ref. Can't wait to see him back on the court on Friday against KG and the Wolves !

You would have called a man you know is a homosexual a "F'ing F#@%$" multiple times?

The ejection seemed excessive, but I think this goes deeper than this one instance, and I think they're probably both to blame, if you believe the ''history'' they supposedly have.

mghbnz
12-15-2015, 12:22 AM
They should also make a triple auto of Rondo, Karl Malone and Tim Hardaway. And then soak them in piss before inserting them in packs.

For people like you to pull :D

mghbnz
12-15-2015, 12:23 AM
You would have called a man you know is a homosexual a "F'ing F#@%$" multiple times?

The ejection seemed excessive, but I think this goes deeper than this one instance, and I think they're probably both to blame, if you believe the ''history'' they supposedly have.

I don't know what I would of said.... But I would of went nuts

Cervantes
12-15-2015, 12:27 AM
I don't know what I would of said.... But I would of went nuts

I understand what you are saying, completely, but if you were a white guy, would you call Bill Kennedy a 'N____' for tossing you?

To him, maybe a 'F_____' is just as bad.

The ejection was garbage, sure, but the rest...yeah. :cool:

mghbnz
12-15-2015, 12:32 AM
I understand what you are saying, completely, but if you were a white guy, would you call Bill Kennedy a 'N____' for tossing you?

To him, maybe a 'F_____' is just as bad.

The ejection was garbage, sure, but the rest...yeah. :cool:

When tempers boil over anything can come out, but that does not make it OK. A public apology would be nice :)!

Cervantes
12-15-2015, 12:35 AM
When tempers boil over anything can come out, but that does not make it OK. A public apology would be nice :)!

The thing is...Rondo got a technical, then followed the ref across the floor, the ref, held his hand out to him, in a 'don't come closer' gesture, and Rondo still approached him. His teammate tried to pull him back, Rondo kept talking (I assume this is where it was said), and he gets another technical. His teammate makes a ''ah, damnit'' (lol) gesture, and then Rondo STILL has to be restrained.

Watching it again...maybe it was deserved. Like the original call or not, the refs aren't there to be verbally abused. I get the ''heat of the moment'', but this wasn't another player.

It was a referee, who, according to reports, Rondo knew was gay. Call him an a-hole, but I would think the term he used should be off limits.

But, hey, that's just me.

kingmogul
12-15-2015, 03:20 AM
I hate rondo but I don't think he should be suspended I hate this politically correct bs.

Andy5
12-15-2015, 03:29 AM
Rondo has always had an attitude problem. The suspension will do nothing to curb his ways. Put up all the decent statlines you want Rajon, unfortunately they won't change the way people see you.

Exactly I play ball and I hear it all the time alot of people use that langue when they play is it right no but it is what it is. Does not make it right though.

Is that language used as a reaction to a play or is it directed at someone like a ref, player or spectator?

asujbl
12-15-2015, 09:08 AM
It's really quite simple...

If a referee called an NBA player a bigoted term (race, sexuality, etc...) and it was confirmed? Holy hell. What if a white referee made a racist comment directly to an NBA player and it was heard by multiple people and not denied by anyone? People would be straight up losing their minds. They'd want that referee suspended, fired, or whatever else they could come up with... but because it's a player it's just a heat of the moment comment. That's straight up BS.

Rondo knew about this referee and he chose his words. It's disgusting. I can't believe people are saying this is "PC"

He should be suspended more games then he got.

vinsanity15
12-15-2015, 09:23 AM
Rondo has always had an attitude problem. The suspension will do nothing to curb his ways. Put up all the decent statlines you want Rajon, unfortunately they won't change the way people see you.



Is that language used as a reaction to a play or is it directed at someone like a ref, player or spectator?

No it directed at a player. Saw it directed to a fan only one time that type of language. And yes have seen a Ref being cursed at a few times lol it is not right but happens a lot that what I'm saying at least from what I have seen.

Orangejello727
12-15-2015, 09:38 AM
It's really quite simple...

If a referee called an NBA player a bigoted term (race, sexuality, etc...) and it was confirmed? Holy hell. What if a white referee made a racist comment directly to an NBA player and it was heard by multiple people and not denied by anyone? People would be straight up losing their minds. They'd want that referee suspended, fired, or whatever else they could come up with... but because it's a player it's just a heat of the moment comment. That's straight up BS.

Rondo knew about this referee and he chose his words. It's disgusting. I can't believe people are saying this is "PC"

He should be suspended more games then he got.

Hyper sensitive people exist on both ends. You say anything offensive directly or indirectly, they make an issue of it because its in the spotlight and because they can. If Rondo blared some vulgarity at someone its an issue. If some random person shouts something racist to you on the streets, do you give it any thought? If not, why?

John Stockton was known to use dirty tactics during his tenure. Everything from pinching to nasty comments. Larry Bird did it all day long...just ask Robert Parish when they played and when he owed Bird money. Its not as if its a one way thing.

asujbl
12-15-2015, 11:02 AM
Hyper sensitive people exist on both ends. You say anything offensive directly or indirectly, they make an issue of it because its in the spotlight and because they can. If Rondo blared some vulgarity at someone its an issue. If some random person shouts something racist to you on the streets, do you give it any thought? If not, why?

John Stockton was known to use dirty tactics during his tenure. Everything from pinching to nasty comments. Larry Bird did it all day long...just ask Robert Parish when they played and when he owed Bird money. Its not as if its a one way thing.

Rondo wasn't a random person. That isn't even comparable.

Rondo said what he said with direct intent.

The rest is apples and oranges.

alanlam
12-15-2015, 11:16 AM
It's really quite simple...

If a referee called an NBA player a bigoted term (race, sexuality, etc...) and it was confirmed? Holy hell. What if a white referee made a racist comment directly to an NBA player and it was heard by multiple people and not denied by anyone? People would be straight up losing their minds. They'd want that referee suspended, fired, or whatever else they could come up with... but because it's a player it's just a heat of the moment comment. That's straight up BS.

Rondo knew about this referee and he chose his words. It's disgusting. I can't believe people are saying this is "PC"

He should be suspended more games then he got.

I agree and I couldn't have said it better. I hate that people are saying this is PC. If something offends someone it's not PC to not say it or to be critical of someone for saying it.

I hate your stupid basketball team. But every once in a while you say something that brings the basketball board out of the garbage. Well done.

xavieronly1
12-15-2015, 11:41 AM
It's really quite simple...

If a referee called an NBA player a bigoted term (race, sexuality, etc...) and it was confirmed? Holy hell. What if a white referee made a racist comment directly to an NBA player and it was heard by multiple people and not denied by anyone? People would be straight up losing their minds. They'd want that referee suspended, fired, or whatever else they could come up with... but because it's a player it's just a heat of the moment comment. That's straight up BS.

Rondo knew about this referee and he chose his words. It's disgusting. I can't believe people are saying this is "PC"

He should be suspended more games then he got.

In what situation would the ref needs to talk trash to player? The ref has all the power to throw anyone out of the game if he/she does not like the player.

Look at how powerful Joey Crawford throwing Duncan out for nothing.

Again, not saying Rondo is right. But ref and player are not on the same level.

asujbl
12-15-2015, 11:57 AM
In what situation would the ref needs to talk trash to player? The ref has all the power to throw anyone out of the game if he/she does not like the player.

Look at how powerful Joey Crawford throwing Duncan out for nothing.

Again, not saying Rondo is right. But ref and player are not on the same level.

Fine - a Coach - doesn't matter.

If a Coach called a player a racist and/or sexist term in the same context that Rondo did it then people would be freaking out. Imagine a white coach calling a black player a racist term. How many games does that coach get suspended?

Rondo had a direct and specific bigoted comment at a specific person.

This heat of the moment argument, when Rondo knew exactly what he was saying, is pathetic.

cp3fan
12-15-2015, 03:20 PM
Fine - a Coach - doesn't matter.

If a Coach called a player a racist and/or sexist term in the same context that Rondo did it then people would be freaking out. Imagine a white coach calling a black player a racist term. How many games does that coach get suspended?

Rondo had a direct and specific bigoted comment at a specific person.

This heat of the moment argument, when Rondo knew exactly what he was saying, is pathetic.

The heat of the moment thing is a poor excuse. I'm sure we've all been in situations where we've had to hold our tongues during "the heat of the moment" and have done so successfully. There's plenty of people in jail who did things during "the heat of the moment"...Also, this poster is right. Rondo was personally insulting the ref as the ref had already been rumored to be gay. This was a personal attack that had nothing to do with the game of basketball. If Rondo wanted to insult him, why not insult what he was upset at (his refereeing)? Instead, Rondo chose a personal insult. I'm sorry but Rondo was wrong for that one any way you look at it.

cp3fan
12-15-2015, 03:22 PM
In what situation would the ref needs to talk trash to player? The ref has all the power to throw anyone out of the game if he/she does not like the player.

Look at how powerful Joey Crawford throwing Duncan out for nothing.

Again, not saying Rondo is right. But ref and player are not on the same level.

If I remember correctly, Crawford ended up getting suspended for tossing Duncan so we can kill that "powerful" adjective for Crawford.

xavieronly1
12-15-2015, 03:29 PM
If I remember correctly, Crawford ended up getting suspended for tossing Duncan so we can kill that "powerful" adjective for Crawford.

You link 2 events together for no reason. It was not like Duncan could replay the game for the wrong ejection.

Crawford had the power to throw Duncan out. NBA has the power to throw Crawford out.

cp3fan
12-15-2015, 03:53 PM
You link 2 events together for no reason. It was not like Duncan could replay the game for the wrong ejection.

Crawford had the power to throw Duncan out. NBA has the power to throw Crawford out.

The 2 events are linked together because they go hand in hand. Just as you said, Joey tossed Duncan and the NBA tossed Joey. See how that works? Good! Also, events like this may cause other refs to think twice before tossing players. You're not considered powerful if you get punished for things you do. You can be considered powerful when you can get away with things. Joey did not get away with this one.

xavieronly1
12-15-2015, 04:03 PM
The 2 events are linked together because they go hand in hand. Just as you said, Joey tossed Duncan and the NBA tossed Joey. See how that works? Good! Also, events like this may cause other refs to think twice before tossing players. You're not considered powerful if you get punished for things you do. You can be considered powerful when you can get away with things. Joey did not get away with this one.

No. You just need to be smart on throwing players out. How hard it is to make players go crazy with "no call"? You can give T just because the player stares at you.

afrobandit
12-15-2015, 11:04 PM
I think he should have been suspended 10 games for this. How did he not know this would be on camera? What an idiot. Cost himself 86 large to boot.

On another note,I am dumbfounded by how much these ball players make. Remember when it was just a game?

Giantrobot
12-15-2015, 11:38 PM
I think he should have been suspended 10 games for this. How did he not know this would be on camera? What an idiot. Cost himself 86 large to boot.

On another note,I am dumbfounded by how much these ball players make. Remember when it was just a game?

I doubt too many folks here are old enough to do that.