Suns need to take that next step and...

[WalterAZ31]

if at all possible, move Bledsoe, Knight, and Chandler by the deadline

already the 7th worst record in NBA, and with a little help, should have no problem finishing around 4th-5th worst record, which should assist them in finally getting a pretty good player in draft, instead of always drafting around 13th-16th what seems like forever

The current product of basketball im seeing is one of the worst in franchise history. After a manageable 7-5 start, they are now 5-14 in last 19 games

Markieff throws a towel at Hornacek tonight, he is gone for sure, but they really need to see what they can do about the other 3 players mentioned

Its getting embarassing

[the27guy]

Completely agree. They overachieved a couple years back and looked to have the start of a real good team. Total fools gold though.

Hornacek is a good coach. Hopefully mgmt recognizes that.

But yeah, pick which role players fit and move the main guys to contenders for picks and potential. Then bottom out and hope for Simmons.

[Pastretta]

Yeah its pretty ugly and I haven't gone to a game this season and I can get free tickets too....

-Chris

[Giantrobot]

I'd like the Celtics to get either Bledsoe or Knight.

Don't want Markieff at all...he's a headcase. Ship him to Sacramento, he'll fit in well.

[JasonM32]

They should have told Bledsoe to go screw and kept Dragic.

[iplumb1963]

Bledsoe puts up better numbers than Dragic...why get rid of him??

[bdoody42]

Bledsoe puts up better numbers than Dragic...why get rid of him??

Better numbers don't always mean better player or fit for a team.

[xavieronly1]

Is Markieff Morris still mad at his brother trade?

[hairyharold]

Better numbers don't always mean better player or fit for a team.

exactly...look at marburys numbers with the nets before the kidd trade. kidd didn't put up nearly the numbers, but clearly was the right fit.

[oilcan77]

It's very difficult to be a fan of this team right now. I've only been wanting to see Booker, and Warren play.

[bkcardcollector]

They were doomed when they failed to reel in LMA.

[hoopster3977]

They were doomed when they failed to reel in LMA.

They were doomed when they resigned Bledsoe and traded for Knight. It didn't help when the Morris Twins decided to go out and commit felonies due to beating on someone.

[pennywise]

Really? I think Knight and Bledsoe are great. Aside from the Jazz and Warriors games, they haven't lost games by much. They're right there, I think they just struggle to close out games. I feel like I just recently read somewhere that Knight and Bledsoe are the highest scoring backcourt in the league. I understand stats aren't everything, but these guys are studs. Phoenix is a good fit for these two, but the Suns need to work as a team to close out games. Aside from blowouts by the Warriors, a few dropped games by less than 10 points is no cause for concern. I'd only be concerned if the trend continues.

[cp3fan]

Really? I think Knight and Bledsoe are great. Aside from the Jazz and Warriors games, they haven't lost games by much. They're right there, I think they just struggle to close out games. I feel like I just recently read somewhere that Knight and Bledsoe are the highest scoring backcourt in the league. I understand stats aren't everything, but these guys are studs. Phoenix is a good fit for these two, but the Suns need to work as a team to close out games. Aside from blowouts by the Warriors, a few dropped games by less than 10 points is no cause for concern. I'd only be concerned if the trend continues.

Just like my clippers, they lack someone to close out games.

[bkcardcollector]

They were doomed when they resigned Bledsoe and traded for Knight. It didn't help when the Morris Twins decided to go out and commit felonies due to beating on someone.

Bledsoe and Knight are good players and would be fine 2nd and 3rd options. Not the greatest 1st options but fine gaurds. Problem is they depend on Bledsoe, Knight and Morris for production which was never the plan to begin with. Fine roll or second best players but not nearly the producer LMA is. The only reason they picked up Chandler was because LMA wanted to play beside him. They banked on LMA coming and built a team around him before landing him. When he didn't come the team they built doesn't look so good. This team would be a force to recon with if they had LMA which was the plan. Without him they are just a bunch of complementary pieces without a center piece.

[inopethflames]

they drafted len with the 4th pick or something and he seems to do pretty well when he plays, i dunno if chandler holds together the lockerroom or something, but if thats not an issue they should trade him at the deadline and they could probably get a first round pick for him since he seems to be one of the magical overrated players that nearly every team will go all out to get. trading morris im sure will be done since he seems to be an incredible baby and he cost himself a lot of money taking a lesser deal to keep both of them in phoenix. he couldve nearly been a max player and at the rate hes going now this will be the biggest contract he gets. he has lots of time to turn that around though. phoenix wont get anything near what they wouldve gotten for him if they had traded him at the same time as his brother though.

[WalterAZ31]

Was that rock bottom?

Officially worst suns team ive seen since year or 2 before marion was drafted. Just embarassing. Imo.supposed talent to record it is the worst team in league

[shindo03]

I don't understand how you guys can count bledsoe out like that....

[rookies]

Suns have huge oppurtunity to trade guys that team has with huge returns. A bledsoe to celtics 3 team trade is a huge possibility with the suns returning with that brooklyn 1st round pick. Also a knight to sacremento is possible. Len to rockets howard to somewhere. SUns just got to keep booker to build around. The problem is a few years ago they had that good season and just missed the playoffs then they thought they ahd a contender and that was not true it screwed up their future plans.

[DunkingDurant35]

Hornacek is a good coach. Hopefully mgmt recognizes that.

One would hope so, but coaches often get axed regardless of context. I'm glad folks aren't calling for him to get fired after last night's embarrassing loss to the Sixers. Landry and Smith made a big difference for Philly; they weren't around before.

Still, Phoenix is dreadful right now, and they need to make some changes; current lineup won't do it. I like Knight and Bledsoe, but together, it's not the best combo. Bledsoe would do better paired with a taller slasher, like DeRozan over in Toronto (Bledsoe reminds me a lot of Lowry, and Lowry/DeRozan is working out well there). Meanwhile, the other guys on Phoenix right now are all too young and too average.

Get some vets, and a reliable go-to swingman who can slash and score. This team won't be a title contender anytime soon, but they could at least be fighting for a playoff spot like they did earlier when Hornacek was coach and they overachieved.

[clipperboy24]

Better numbers don't always mean better player or fit for a team.

Lol, Bledsoe plays great defense, is a better rebounder, overall better player.

This thread makes me wonder if the Suns fans are actually watching the games. You trade those 2 players (knight and Bledsoe) and you are like the clippers of old, young players who don't have enough experience or chemistry to win and always hoping you get that big draft pick to change the franchise... It very rarely works.

The Suns need a legit SF and a PF who actually wants to play for the team and also who is a little better rebounder. Solve that and they will be a real contender. Knight and Bledsoe actually are a great tandem. I do think Chandler is superfluous with Len in the mix. His and Chandler's game are pretty similar.

[clipperboy24]

Dupe post sorry

[clipperboy24]

One would hope so, but coaches often get axed regardless of context. I'm glad folks aren't calling for him to get fired after last night's embarrassing loss to the Sixers. Landry and Smith made a big difference for Philly; they weren't around before.

Still, Phoenix is dreadful right now, and they need to make some changes; current lineup won't do it. I like Knight and Bledsoe, but together, it's not the best combo. Bledsoe would do better paired with a taller slasher, like DeRozan over in Toronto (Bledsoe reminds me a lot of Lowry, and Lowry/DeRozan is working out well there). Meanwhile, the other guys on Phoenix right now are all too young and too average.

Get some vets, and a reliable go-to swingman who can slash and score. This team won't be a title contender anytime soon, but they could at least be fighting for a playoff spot like they did earlier when Hornacek was coach and they overachieved.

Knight and Bledsoe play pretty well together but that is a great example of derozan and Lowry. I agree bledsoes game is like Lowry, both good PGs but play a little more non traditional so it's easy to mislabel them. I think Bledsoe would actually be a perfect fit for OKC with Durant, Kanter and Ilbaka. Would obviously have to trade some more than just Bledsoe to get Westbrook but I think Durant would do better with someone who could take a back seat to him.

[daeve]

I think they need to trade Bledsoe for a PF...especially if he's hurt. Build around Booker, Len, and their top pick this year [maybe they shoot for Jamal Murray], and then have Knight be the gunner off the bench [could be a jamal crawford-type-role]

[bkcardcollector]

Build around Booker. hahahaha

[shindo03]

^ I want a true response about how booker is not good or good.... I don't want the whole "we only got a sample size, people are reading too much into it." That much I understand and it is definitely a good point, I want other stuff please.

[bkcardcollector]

the long and short of it is that they are a mess. They have a team built around a player that is not even on their team. They swung for the fences and tried to be a contender with LMA. Instead they struck out and are now holding the left over pieces. It not that Bledsoe, Knight, Booker, Len and Chandler are bad its that this team was not built around any of them. I know many will disagree with me but I do believe that Bledsoe is a guy you could build around but the suns to this point have not done that. I don't think Knight, Booker, Len or Chandler are guys you can build around. That is not to say they are bad but they are not top dogs.

[WalterAZ31]

i thought rock bottom was the 76ers loss, but tonight just really takes the cake

vs a horrible Kings team and they just gave up 142 pts in regulation

i guess the plus side, this franchise has a real shot to pick 3rd after LA/PHI in the draft, which would be their highest they have selected since 1987

[daeve]

Kings arent horrible, theyre 2 games out of the 8 seed. and I dont see it being that difficult for them to pass Utah or Houston and making the playoffs this year

[WalterAZ31]

22 pts at halftime, down 21 at the 7-27 Lakers

this just might be the worst team in the league

[shaner1]

Ugly first half. Pure ugliness

[WalterAZ31]

Ugly first half. Pure ugliness

i've never seen a Suns team this bad before ever. rivaling maybe the mid 80's and their first ever season

Its amazing how fast this once pretty decent franchise has fallen.