Aroldis Chapman to be Acquired by the Yankees

[Jaypers]

Per Jack Curry.

Wow. Guess that domestic report didn't scare them off. So much for Andrew Miller.

[jewcer2k5]

Chapman, Miller, Betances...SCARY

Wonder which big name prospect(s) they gave up.

[death2redemptions]

How many closers do the Yankees need to be satisfied?

I'm curious to find out what the Yanks traded.

[Jaypers]

Rookie Davis is one of the players headed to Cincy.

[Wolves4Life]

As a Cubs fan, I approve this move.

[NeedChapmans]

Ohhh boy; this again.

I want to see this DONE. A dream if so, but DONE DAMNIT.

[Halbert]

wooooaaa......

[Jaypers]

Ohhh boy; this again.

I want to see this DONE. A dream if so, but DONE DAMNIT.

Ka-CHING. As if you needed the $. :)!

[Ajax1723]

Ohhh boy; this again.

I want to see this DONE. A dream if so, but DONE DAMNIT.

Yep, your collection couldn't gain any more traction on any other team.

[NeedChapmans]

Yep, your collection couldn't gain any more traction on any other team.

No, it certainly couldn't and NYY will want to sign him longterm with Miller a possibility to be out the door.

But the deal isn't done yet, so reserving my optimism. Cincinnati is 1-3 in their announced trades; so not flying high just yet.

[Hollenbackcards]

Yep, your collection couldn't gain any more traction on any other team.

As long as he stays out of more trouble :p

[Jaypers]

Ken Rosenthal confirms the trade.

[NeedChapmans]

Ken Rosenthal confirms the trade.

Looking better. ;)

[metsandweezer]

At least it's not the Nationals. (For us Mets fans)

[metsandweezer]

#Yankees do anticipate that Chapman will deal with some kind of suspension for domestic abuse allegations #Reds

[Wolves4Life]

Miller will most likely be dealt so don't look for Miller Betances and Chapman combo.

[metsandweezer]

Miller will most likely be dealt so don't look for Miller Betances and Chapman combo.

Initial read I am getting is #Yankees plan to keep Miller, Betances and Chapman to form powerhouse end game

[death2redemptions]

Ohhh boy; this again.

I want to see this DONE. A dream if so, but DONE DAMNIT.

Looks like another one of your PC's really paid off!

[EDMTunesCollect]

Wow this is huge. Thrilled as a Yankees fan. Betances, miller and chapman? Best bullpen in the majors hands down if they keep the three. And even if miller is moved, chapman and Betances immediately become the best 1-2 in the majors

[Hollywood42]

Sighhhhh

[death2redemptions]

At least it's not the Nationals. (For us Mets fans)

And us Braves fans too...

[Cardshack14]

Super pen here we come!

[IamRalpho]

Cant believe the Yankees taking this chance with all taht stuff hanging over him

[Halbert]

who did we give up

[Jaypers]

Curry says Reds will get 4 guys, but none of the top tier (Judge, Sanchez, Mateo, Bird).

If correct, I'd say the Bombers won this one. Assuming of course, his domestic situation doesn't lead to a long suspension.

[Wolves4Life]

Initial read I am getting is #Yankees plan to keep Miller, Betances and Chapman to form powerhouse end game

But do Yanks want to pay all 3? They need a ton of offensive help and Miller could get them something.

[bronxbomber33]

Yanks still need starting pitching and another bat...gotta be able to get them to the 8th and 9th inning to use chapman.

[texmcpherson]

Really don't want to see any of the power bats (Bird, Judge, Sanchez) involved. Hopefully they didn't bring much back to the NL Central.

[EDMTunesCollect]

Curry says Reds will get 4 guys, but none of the top tier (Judge, Sanchez, Mateo, Bird).


Just keeps getting better! As long as severino, bird, judge, Mateo aren't moving, doesn't matter who was traded

Hell of a deal for NY

[texmcpherson]

Curry says Reds will get 4 guys, but none of the top tier (Judge, Sanchez, Mateo, Bird).

If correct, I'd say the Bombers won this one.

All prospects?

[Jaypers]

All prospects?

Yes, all minor leaguers.

[EDMTunesCollect]

Yanks still need starting pitching...gotta be able to get them to the 8th and 9th inning to use chapman.

Um what? This shortens the game to 6 innings or less. Takes a ton of work off the starters.

Tanaka / Severino / Pineda is a fine top 3, especially with they amount of stress on those arms that will be relieved with the shortened games

Would you rather trade for the best closer in the majors or give an number 1 6-7 years at 25-30 million a year and have sabathia all over again? It's a no brainer IMO

[Andrew Jones]

Cant believe the Yankees taking this chance with all taht stuff hanging over him

They have plenty of distractions and off the field issues already so adding another one shouldn't be a big deal.

[berkey33]

So Reds trade Frazier + Chappy and the only top 100 prospect they get is Peraza? Cool, looks like I won't go to a Reds game for about 5 yrs.

[centereacan06]

So Reds trade Frazier + Chappy and the only top 100 prospect they get is Peraza? Cool, looks like I won't go to a Reds game for about 5 yrs.

Yeah, they don't seem to be doing this rebuilding thing very well. Should've asked the Mets or Cubs for help.

[trixstar]

K's per 9 last year

1. Chapman - 15.74
2. Miller - 14.59
3. Betances - 14.04

[Jaypers]

Jagielo headed to Cincy.

[Wolves4Life]

Bryan Hoch ‏@BryanHoch 1m1 minute ago
Yankees have acquired Aroldis Chapman from the Reds for RHPs Caleb Cotham and Rookie Davis and INFs Eric Jagielo and Tony Renda.

[preakness]

Maybe Eric J to play third in future?

[Jaypers]

Caleb Cotham and Tony Renda are the other two.

So, it's those plus Rookie Davis and Eric Jagielo.

[Highroller]

Good, the Reds have 30 average pitchers to choose from now...

[Halbert]

Bryan Hoch ‏@BryanHoch 1m1 minute ago
Yankees have acquired Aroldis Chapman from the Reds for RHPs Caleb Cotham and Rookie Davis and INFs Eric Jagielo and Tony Renda.

Thats it!?!?!

[preakness]

Lol

I posted Eric J same time

[Wolves4Life]

Thats it!?!?!

It's Reds, What do you expect?

[Hollenbackcards]

Curry says Reds will get 4 guys, but none of the top tier (Judge, Sanchez, Mateo, Bird).

If correct, I'd say the Bombers won this one. Assuming of course, his domestic situation doesn't lead to a long suspension.

Thats crazy to me! I would assume they would get at least 1 top tier prospect.

[EDMTunesCollect]

Caleb Cotham and Tony Renda are the other two.

So, it's those plus Rookie Davis and Eric Jagielo.

Wow

I guess losing jagielo hurts a tiny bit, cotham looked like mr average last year and the other two are bleh.

Surprised the Reds didn't get at least 1 top guy

[trixstar]

Thats it!?!?!

He's a free agent after next year and a wife beater. What were you expecting them to get?

[EDMTunesCollect]

Thats crazy to me! I would assume they would get at least 1 top tier prospect.

My thoughts exactly!

[festus]

#Yankees do anticipate that Chapman will deal with some kind of suspension for domestic abuse allegations #Reds

in order for this guy to get suspended there has to be more than just "allegations". no arrest, no physical injuries, no suspension.

[festus]

He's a free agent after next year and a wife beater. What were you expecting them to get?

he's not married. try again

oh & he's a "beater" by who's account?

[texmcpherson]

Caleb Cotham and Tony Renda are the other two.

So, it's those plus Rookie Davis and Eric Jagielo.

LOL. Handing out their players like free samples.

[SportsAutoFreak]

The Reds remind me of last Winter's Braves, only even worse.

[enbambam6986]

Wooooow. I'm sure the Yanks will go after Maeda now. Tanaka and Maeda would have plenty of rest with that bullpen

[Andrew Jones]

in order for this guy to get suspended there has to be more than just "allegations". no arrest, no physical injuries, no suspension.

That's not accurate.

[NeedChapmans]

That's not accurate.

It is when the case is likely going to set the precedent. Unless the investigation uncovers something no one knows about, he didn't do anything to warrant a suspension under the guidelines of the program. He will receive instruction to an anger management program, but beyond that I don't think anything will happen.

Jose Reyes on the other hand; that one will likely set the bar in terms of what players can expect going forward.

[StlScott]

Depending on the length of any suspension, Yanks could have him for 2017.

[berkey33]

And this is why we should have traded Frazier and Chappy at the dead line last yr. Frazier then tanked in the 2nd half and Chappy with the allegations. I'm 100% sure we would have got so much more at the dead line.

[Keyser Soze]

How in the hell could the Reds not do better than that?

[Homerun]

I feel bad for Highroller and any other Reds fans.

They traded arguably their 2 best players besides Votto and didn't get much of anything in return.

[Andrew Jones]

It is when the case is likely going to set the precedent. Unless the investigation uncovers something no one knows about, he didn't do anything to warrant a suspension under the guidelines of the program. He will receive instruction to an anger management program, but beyond that I don't think anything will happen.

Jose Reyes on the other hand; that one will likely set the bar in terms of what players can expect going forward.

An arrest and/or physical injuries are not required in order for a suspension to be issued under the MLB policy so his post was not accurate.

[exitmusicblue]

Cue the my fantasy team is very happy comment.

[free2131]

he's not married. try again

oh & he's a "beater" by who's account?

Sure, completely rational to break out your car window with your pitching hand and then fire off several shots from your gun in your garage. How crazy is it to think his girlfriend is telling the truth about him abusing her.

Besides, he throws a baseball really fast. What's a little domestic assault, amirite?

[broadway6]

Looking better. ;)



Sell me a Chapman for the Reds price. ;)

[NeedChapmans]

An arrest and/or physical injuries are not required in order for a suspension to be issued under the MLB policy so his post was not accurate.

Very true; however in this particular case, I think it will prove to be accurate. Just have to wait and see.

[Jaypers]

IMO, from a prospect standpoint:

Giles > Kimbrel > Chapman


How effed up is that?

[natbornkiller]

How many closers do the Yankees need to be satisfied?

I'm curious to find out what the Yanks traded.

9 :coffee:

[EDMTunesCollect]

IMO, from a prospect standpoint:

Giles > Kimbrel > Chapman


How effed up is that?



Are you saying that in terms of their returns?

Giles got the most prospect wise, Kimbrel second etc?

Just clarifying, cuz I know you aren't meaning Giles is the best of the 3

[enbambam6986]

IMO, from a prospect standpoint:

Giles > Kimbrel > Chapman


How effed up is that?

5 years > 3 years > 1 year

[Jaypers]

Are you saying that in terms of their returns?

Giles got the most prospect wise, Kimbrel second etc?

Just clarifying, cuz I know you aren't meaning Giles is the best of the 3

Correct.

[EDMTunesCollect]

Correct.


Got it :)

Pretty crazy IMO

Yanks stole chapman from the Reds

[HitandRun24]

Well my Rookie Davis collection went to hell

[YanksBillsFan]

Three elite closer type RP's at the end sounds mighty fine to me. I was concerned about the 7th when Wilson was moved, but this move had to have been in discussion when Wilson was being moved.

[Keyser Soze]

I agree that Giles is worth more due to the years of control and low salary, but it's mind-boggling that the Reds couldn't get a better offer than that

[exitmusicblue]

Loo lee loo la got both Giles and Chapman...

[Jaypers]

Per Mark Sheldon, four teams were still in the running for Chapman, says Jocketty.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Per Mark Sheldon, four teams were still in the running for Chapman, says Jocketty.

Well if all 4 teams were offering less, that says alot.

[YankeesKRD]

So is it official yet?

[Jaypers]

Interesting.

Per Joel Sherman, Cashman says their intent is to enter the season with Chapman, Miller and Betances.

[Jaypers]

So is it official yet?

Yep, confirmed by the Yanks' own Twitter.

[mgugs46]

Neat. Yanks get Chapman for free essentially.

[Ottomatic]

Garbage prospect package for a garbage human being, seems legit. Can't wait to unload my Chapmans.

[ajw9356]

Initial read I am getting is #Yankees plan to keep Miller, Betances and Chapman to form powerhouse end game

Want to copy the Royals formula. I'm sure that this will be a tough team to beat after the 6th now as well.

[Ottomatic]

5 years > 3 years > 1 year

Mind = Blown. Who would have thought it's more valuable to have more years of team control.

[Highroller]

Mind = Blown. Who would have thought it's more valuable to have more years of team control.

You would think that would be true until you see the return the Reds got for Frazier.

[IamRalpho]

Still wouldnt be surprised if the Yankees trade Miller, its nice to have 3 aces in the pen but you dont really need em

[death2redemptions]

Wow, the Reds were robbed...again.

They are certainly in rebuild mode but I question these last couple trades. Weren't the Dodgers offering a couple top 100 prospects? His value must have really diminished since the incident.

[37Jetson]

Curry says Reds will get 4 guys, but none of the top tier (Judge, Sanchez, Mateo, Bird).

If correct, I'd say the Bombers won this one. Assuming of course, his domestic situation doesn't lead to a long suspension.

Why on God's Green Earth would you trade Chapman and not get a Top Tier Prospect or two in return? Stupid move by the Reds to seal their mediocrity for years to come.

[EDMTunesCollect]

Still wouldnt be surprised if the Yankees trade Miller, its nice to have 3 aces in the pen but you dont really need em


Salty?

Why would you not want to make the game 6 innings for the opposing offense and 9 for your own?

You can say you don't like the deal, but don't make ridiculous comments just because your rival improved.

[awz50]

The reds suck...

[cruiserdaddy7]

Why on God's Green Earth would you trade Chapman and not get a Top Tier Prospect or two in return? Stupid move by the Reds to seal their mediocrity for years to come.

Mediocrity is a huge compliment for the Reds. They will be perennial 95-100 game losers at this rate.

[berkey33]

It’s easy to speak now with the benefit of hindsight, but the reported offer of Braden Shipley plus a pair of other Top 10 prospects from the Diamondbacks in July does appear to be a stronger package than the one received by Cincinnati today.

Naw let's wait then sell at the worst time....same with Frazier hot 1st half could have traded for a nice return naw let's wait till he hits like .200 in the 2nd half then sell in the offseason. Walt and Co. need to be canned.

[kyleuk21]

The amount of empty seats in the stands is going to be ridiculous. My empty seat is going to be one of them. I'm not paying to watch bad baseball with a team of votto, Phillips, and mostly minor league players. This sucks. Castellini needs to fire the entire management staff bc of these awful trade returns.

[JWBlue]

As a Chapman fantasy owner, not happy with this. Potential for him to share saves with Chapman.

[37Jetson]

As a Chapman fantasy owner, not happy with this. Potential for him to share saves with Chapman.

I am even less happy as an Andrew Miller Fantasy owner....

[johno654]

I wonder what order the 3 would go in. And would Chapman accept being delegated to an unglamorous role?

[exitmusicblue]

As a Chapman fantasy owner, not happy with this. Potential for him to share saves with Chapman.

Disagree... every team has a backup "closer" anyhow. Wade Davis had very few saves while Holland was closer. Closer by committee very bad for a team's late-game consistency.

Thank the baseball gods he's off Cincy :cool:

[houstonrules51]

What is say about me that my first thought upon seeing he news flash across the bottom of the tv was, "needschapman is sooooo stoked right now" :D

[IamRalpho]

Salty?

Why would you not want to make the game 6 innings for the opposing offense and 9 for your own?

You can say you don't like the deal, but don't make ridiculous comments just because your rival improved.

Where did I say I was salty, or this was a bad move, what a reach buddy.

What are you talking about? WHERE DID I SAY I DIDNT LIKE THE DEAL!?!?!

The Yankees got him for nothing because hes a scumbag.

I am saying you do not need 3 aces in the pen to win, want me to repeat it again THE YANKEES DO NOT NEED 3 ACES IN THE PEN TO WIN

Reading is tough

[RedsRule]

I hate my favorite team.

[SportsAutoFreak]

You never know what kind of things could transpire. Right now this is a blatant heist for the Yanks.

[JWBlue]

The only way a team could justify trading for him was to give up low tier prospects.

[SportsAutoFreak]

The only way a team could justify trading for him was to give up low tier prospects.

I get what you're saying because of the allegations surrounding him recently, but he's been one of the rare closers who has been at the top year in and year out. Any team who is a contender would be very happy to have him and I'd frankly have asked for bigger names in return if I were the Reds.

[NeedChapmans]

The only way a team could justify trading for him was to give up low tier prospects.

It's the exact opposite. If Chapman were to be suspended (think big, say 80 games); then you not only get him for the second half of this season, but you also get him for all of 2017, because he's not a free agent. A fresh reliever for the stretch run, and a year of control you probably didn't expect If Chapman is suspended small, or not at all, and you don't want him beyond this season; then you can give him a qualifying offer next year, and take the 1st round pick; which you COULD argue is similar to the package the Reds just received from the Yankees.

Point blank, Cincinnati didn't want to have to pay Chapman $13M for a season that they know will be one of their worst ever. To see what they hauled in for Frazier makes you realize that the Reds are a perfect trading partner, and the Yankees took advantage.

[shortstopguy12]

At 25-1 odds, the Yankees are a pretty good value bet to win the WS right now.......Picking up Chapman, regardless of his suspension shows me that the Yankees with probably make another move or 2.

[Ottomatic]

It's the exact opposite. If Chapman were to be suspended (think big, say 80 games); then you not only get him for the second half of this season, but you also get him for all of 2017, because he's not a free agent. A fresh reliever for the stretch run, and a year of control you probably didn't expect If Chapman is suspended small, or not at all, and you don't want him beyond this season; then you can give him a qualifying offer next year, and take the 1st round pick; which you COULD argue is similar to the package the Reds just received from the Yankees.

Point blank, Cincinnati didn't want to have to pay Chapman $13M for a season that they know will be one of their worst ever. To see what they hauled in for Frazier makes you realize that the Reds are a perfect trading partner, and the Yankees took advantage.

Well yeah this all assuming we live in a world where only wins matter and not a guys character. I'm not trading for a guy that abuses women at any price. I don't care how much team control he has.

[NeedChapmans]

Well yeah this all assuming we live in a world where only wins matter and not a guys character. I'm not trading for a guy that abuses women at any price. I don't care how much team control he has.

That's why you're not a GM. And you're awfully (along with many others) quick to toss around the abuse card when even the woman's brother said nothing happened. The disturbing part of the story is the anger; it doesn't appear he did anything to anybody, except himself (this time).

[kyleuk21]

Well yeah this all assuming we live in a world where only wins matter and not a guys character. I'm not trading for a guy that abuses women at any price. I don't care how much team control he has.

No proof of anything that he abused anyone. I love how stupid the public is and how we are so quick to judge and throw someone into the fire. I prefer the innocent until proven guilty way of life. I hope someone never accuses u of anything negative and everyone in the world puts u down bc they automatically pin u as guilty.

[festus]

I'm not trading for a guy that abuses women at any price.

this crap just makes me laugh. WHO says this guy abuses women except for his crazy, jealous, hothead girlfriend? "he choked me, he choked me"!! the neck is a pretty sensitive area. where are the injuries????? not even a mark........................

[StlScott]

The Reds saved 13 million dollars. Sure, it would have been nice to get a very good prospect. They didnt for 2 reasons. First, they waited way too long. Second, Chapman cut his own value. The good news is the Reds can load up on prospects in the draft if they choose wisely. Some of the draft building is luck. I dont know, but I cant imagine another Harper, Trout, Correa, Bryant, Buxton, or even Schwarber will be out soon.

[Wolves4Life]

AL East will be fun to watch. As good as Miller, Betances and Chapman is. Boston's Smith, Koji, Tazawa and Kimbrel might be better. Baltimore don't have a cake walk bullpen either but they will need to go out and get some offense. Only Boston and Toronto have an offense basically in the AL East right now.

[Jaypers]

Exerpt from KLaw's article on this trade:

"If I were a general manager, I would have zero interest in having a player who has either committed or been accused of domestic violence or sexual assault on my roster, regardless of his talent."

[cruiserdaddy7]

The Reds saved 13 million dollars. Sure, it would have been nice to get a very good prospect. They didnt for 2 reasons. First, they waited way too long. Second, Chapman cut his own value. The good news is the Reds can load up on prospects in the draft if they choose wisely. Some of the draft building is luck. I dont know, but I cant imagine another Harper, Trout, Correa, Bryant, Buxton, or even Schwarber will be out soon.

Well those guys have come out about 1 per year so......

The problem is the Reds haven't drafted well in recent years either.

[Ottomatic]

this crap just makes me laugh. WHO says this guy abuses women except for his crazy, jealous, hothead girlfriend? "he choked me, he choked me"!! the neck is a pretty sensitive area. where are the injuries????? not even a mark........................

Lol. Wow.

[festus]

Lol. Wow.

what's the matter? nothing to say to back up your b.s.?

[kyleuk21]

Lol. Wow.

He was a little over-the-top but what he said makes More sense than you ASSuming chapman is guilty bc of one female's emotional accusation. Ask Kobe Bryant how that worked out for him. You're part of the problem with society. Ignorance...

[festus]

......................................

[Ottomatic]

He was a little over-the-top but what he said makes More sense than you ASSuming chapman is guilty bc of one female's emotional accusation. Ask Kobe Bryant how that worked out for him. You're part of the problem with society. Ignorance...

I agree, he could be innocent, but I'm sorry he doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt IMO and I wouldnt have him on my team. The poster above you just came off sexist, not even worth a response.

[festus]

I agree, he could be innocent, but I'm sorry he doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt

what a dumb thing to say


The poster above you just came off sexist, not even worth a response.

the girlfriend's accusation didn't support any evidence. there WOULD be evidence if he did what she said he did. back up your claim how that comes off "sexist".

[kyleuk21]

I agree, he could be innocent, but I'm sorry he doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt IMO and I wouldnt have him on my team. The poster above you just came off sexist, not even worth a response.

Chapman hasn't done anything wrong in the past to my knowledge besides a speeding ticket. To say he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt is dumb. Maybe u have trust issues and that's just how u are. In that case, I feel sry for you. But chapman, and ppl in general deserve the benefit of the doubt. If we took every angry, emotional person (not just female) at their word then we'd all be screwed in the public eye. NeedChapmans is right that the anger with shooting the gun is more of a worry. Ppl lie every day about others due to anger, jealousy, etc. believing everything we hear is stupid and irresponsible.

[CALVINXLIONSX81]

The Yankees are fine having a player who supposedly threatened to seriously harm his wife, but god forbid you have a beard.

Great move for them though.

[marl1220]

I agree, he could be innocent, but I'm sorry he doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt IMO and I wouldnt have him on my team. The poster above you just came off sexist, not even worth a response.

"I agree, he could be innocent, but I'm sorry he doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt IMO"

This could be the most ignorant thing I've ever read on these boards.:rolleyes:

[jrenaut]

I was willing to let the legal system run its course and determine whether or not the allegations are true. But as an Orioles fan, he could have ridden in on a white horse to save his girlfriend from a pack of rabid weasels and becoming a Yankee would still mean he's dead to me.

My Chapman collection is for sale. I'll get to posting it soon, but feel free to PM with anything you're interested in. It's nothing like NeedChapmans' collection, but I have some good stuff.

[fulltritty]

Absolute steal for the Yankees. So much weight will be taken off the fragile arms of Tanaka and Pineda not to mention Sabathia is only worth about 4 good innings.

[marl1220]

Absolute steal for the Yankees. So much weight will be taken off the fragile arms of Tanaka and Pineda not to mention Sabathia is only worth about 4 good innings.

Thanks alot. As a Yankee fan fan I was feeling pretty good tonight....then you have to go and mention Sabathia. :doh:

[JohnRyno]

I didn't know he had been accused of wrongdoing. That being sad, I'm glad my girlfriend knows Spanish, so I can Heckle him from behind the Oriole's dugout, en Espanol.

[marl1220]

I didn't know he had been accused of wrongdoing. That being sad, I'm glad my girlfriend knows Spanish, so I can Heckle him from behind the Oriole's dugout, en Espanol.

Oh, so you're that kind of guy? The type of person who uses their ticket to a game to say things to people that they would never dare say to their face? Very manly of you. You're parents must be very proud.:rolleyes:

[JohnRyno]

Oh, so you're that kind of guy? The type of person who uses their ticket to a game to say things to people that they would never dare say to their face? Very manly of you. You're parents must be very proud.:rolleyes:

Yes, I'm going to memorize phrases, in another language, to yell them aloud at a baseball game.

It's a joke, Howdy. Relax.

[rednecksims]

Not sure if anyone has seen this but interesting thought http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/why-yankees-should-hope-aroldis-chapman-gets-a-lengthy-suspension-220152608.html;_ylt=A0SO80XV7YFWKE8A94hXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByNWU4cGh1BGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--

[EDMTunesCollect]

AL East will be fun to watch. As good as Miller, Betances and Chapman is. Boston's Smith, Koji, Tazawa and Kimbrel might be better. Baltimore don't have a cake walk bullpen either but they will need to go out and get some offense. Only Boston and Toronto have an offense basically in the AL East right now.



Lmao you can't be serious


Nobody in their right mind would taken bostons back 3 over the Yanks now.

Has to be a joke comment...

[ilovethelakings]

Yes, I'm going to memorize phrases, in another language, to yell them aloud at a baseball game.

It's a joke, Howdy. Relax.

If your girl won't help you, I can help you with a few choice phrases. Repeat after me:
El queso está viejo y pútrido. Donde esta el sanitarios? :D

[devo]

What a crazy steal for the Yankees! No matter what happens going forward, they won this deal hands down. Even if the absolute worst case scenario happens and Chapman is suspended half the season AND ends up tanking in NY, it'll be nothing more than a small disappointment because the Yankees only gave up 4 minor leaguers for him. AND to top it off, none of those 4 minor leaguers were from their big 5! (Bird, Judge, Severino, Mateo, Sanchez)

VERY low risk move for the Yankees IMO. Props to Cashman for pulling this one off!

[vwnut13]

What a crazy steal for the Yankees! No matter what happens going forward, they won this deal hands down. Even if the absolute worst case scenario happens and Chapman is suspended half the season AND ends up tanking in NY, it'll be nothing more than a small disappointment because the Yankees only gave up 4 minor leaguers for him. AND to top it off, none of those 4 minor leaguers were from their big 5! (Bird, Judge, Severino, Mateo, Sanchez)

VERY low risk move for the Yankees IMO. Props to Cashman for pulling this one off!

And two of those minor leaguers are literally nothings.

[dasiegel]

Wow as a Yankees fan I am so happy! I think we SHOULD keep all 3 big relievers. Our starters aren't so strong and are very injury prone. To only need a starter to pitch 6 innings really shortens the game. I actually like Jagielo but could care less about the other 3, even Davis. I read a ton of articles on the domestic issue. Seems like there definitely was some drama but a very suspect case against Chapman. Not taking sides on that so the PC police don't come after me but as a baseball move... low risk high reward for the NYY considering what they let go.

[Ottomatic]

"I agree, he could be innocent, but I'm sorry he doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt IMO"

This could be the most ignorant thing I've ever read on these boards.:rolleyes:

How? There is definitely a chance he is completely innocent. It's possible. But judging off of what I have read about the accusations, I am not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. How is that even remotely ignorant?

[no10pin]

I agree, he could be innocent, but I'm sorry he doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt IMO

How on earth do you say those two things in the same sentence?

I see you already responded to someone else, but it makes zero sense to state he could be innocent but deserves to be treated as if he's guilty.

[Ottomatic]

How on earth do you say those two things in the same sentence?

I see you already responded to someone else, but it makes zero sense to state he could be innocent but deserves to be treated as if he's guilty.

Peyton Manning could be innocent, but I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt either. These things come out for a reason. If it comes out he's 100% innocent ( Im pretty sure hes not) and doesn't get suspended I'll change my tune. Used to love watching the dude pitch.

[Ottomatic]

I mean we already KNOW for a fact the dude fired his gun 8 times in anger about his girlfriend, HE himself admitted to it. Please do not think I'm off base in not giving him the benefit of the doubt right now... I'm just saying I wouldn't take the risk of trading for the dude right now, because it's not looking good and I wouldn't want anybody like that on my team.

The End, done in this thread.

[NeedChapmans]

I mean we already KNOW for a fact the dude fired his gun 8 times in anger about his girlfriend, HE himself admitted to it. Please do not think I'm off base in not giving him the benefit of the doubt right now... I'm just saying I wouldn't take the risk of trading for the dude right now, because it's not looking good and I wouldn't want anybody like that on my team.

The End, done in this thread.

Ahh, gun ownership is where you draw the line. Another quality GM trait you've shown today.

[Callmethevreez]

The amount of empty seats in the stands is going to be ridiculous. My empty seat is going to be one of them. I'm not paying to watch bad baseball with a team of votto, Phillips, and mostly minor league players. This sucks. Castellini needs to fire the entire management staff bc of these awful trade returns.

As a Reds STH. I am actually excited about the empty seats! I hate large crowds during games.

[EDMTunesCollect]

I mean we already KNOW for a fact the dude fired his gun 8 times in anger about his girlfriend, HE himself admitted to it. Please do not think I'm off base in not giving him the benefit of the doubt right now... I'm just saying I wouldn't take the risk of trading for the dude right now, because it's not looking good and I wouldn't want anybody like that on my team.

The End, done in this thread.



Even if he's suspended for a long period of time

Just means the Yankees get him for an extra year and delay his FA.

This is a win win for them

Your comments are hilarious

[SaveMeTheGum]

I would have loved to see Chapman in a Red Sox uni, but knowing them, they might try to force him back into the rotation a la Daniel Bard. Should be a fun season. Hopefully the Yanks and Sox are both relevant again. Papi's farewell tour. And the Sox finally have an ace. Let's get 2016 started!

[trixstar]

Who's ready for some 6 inning baseball

[free2131]

Ahh, gun ownership is where you draw the line. Another quality GM trait you've shown today.

Gun ownership =/ randomly shooting off said gun in anger. Also, innocent until proven guilty is a legal device, not a device of public opinion. I (as well as others here I would assume) absolutely think that he should be afforded all the rights under the law, but that doesn't mean he should be afforded public opinion.

I tend to think that someone that shows such a lack of self control and such violent anger is more than likely someone that would be abusive. I also think that I wouldn't want someone like that representing me in any official capacity.

[NeedChapmans]

Gun ownership =/ randomly shooting off said gun in anger. Also, innocent until proven guilty is a legal device, not a device of public opinion. I (as well as others here I would assume) absolutely think that he should be afforded all the rights under the law, but that doesn't mean he should be afforded public opinion.

I tend to think that someone that shows such a lack of self control and such violent anger is more than likely someone that would be abusive. I also think that I wouldn't want someone like that representing me in any official capacity.

I don't disagree that the lack of self control in that situation is alarming; I believe it to be the most problematic of everything that was reported to have happened. However, I don't think that makes someone "more likely someone that would be abusive". Chapman has an anger issue, but he didn't hit anyone. He wanted to drive away, wasn't allowed (rightfully so) and found a way to take his anger out without hurting anyone. Yes, there are certainly better ways to do that; but score him 1 point on the 100 point scale for not doing something he could regret for the rest of his life.

With his girlfriend refusing to talk to MLB, Chapman cooperating and no evidence of anything other than the police report, it's hard for public opinion to be overtly negative. After the investigation concludes and Chapman is saving games for the Yankees, honestly, who will remember this incident (if this is all there was to it)?

[Wolves4Life]

Lmao you can't be serious


Nobody in their right mind would taken bostons back 3 over the Yanks now.

Has to be a joke comment...

Yanks easily have best swing and miss (from last year) combo but let's see how 1 dimensional Chapman does in the AL. Boston's could be better we don't know until it plays out.

[texmcpherson]

Peyton Manning could be innocent, but I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt either. These things come out for a reason. If it comes out he's 100% innocent ( Im pretty sure hes not) and doesn't get suspended I'll change my tune. Used to love watching the dude pitch.

Yeah, I remember those days. Peyton was one hell of a pitcher.

[PejaD]

Yanks are the favorite to take home the William Harridge hardware in my mind. If they shore up the defense in 1 or 2 spots, they could easily be like the 2014-15 Royals.

[kyleuk21]

Peyton Manning could be innocent, but I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt either. These things come out for a reason. If it comes out he's 100% innocent ( Im pretty sure hes not) and doesn't get suspended I'll change my tune. Used to love watching the dude pitch.

Lmfao this dude is the dumbest person on this entire site. The dude behind the Peyton story has already admitted to making up the entire thing. Totally false but you still automatically accuse of wrongdoing. I hope you're not a parent or role model to anyone bc they'll grow up to be a real ****

[SportsAutoFreak]

Rosenthal said the Marlins also tried for Chapman but liked the Yankees offer better. I have zero clue what to think of that.

[marino13]

Here is the full police report on the incident .... read and be educated at your own risk.

And oh, don't check your common sense at the door either, please junkies! :D


Chapman police report (http://www.scribd.com/doc/292676051/Chapman-police-report#scribd)


And for those who curious what she looks like --- and I know you do. Here ya go!

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Aroldis-Chapman-Girlfriend-21.jpg