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coreydean
02-07-2016, 10:30 PM
You'd think a chance to win a Super Bowl would cause you to go after it. #notsupermananymore

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bubba300
02-07-2016, 10:32 PM
I said same thing to my buddies...Cam was a vertical hatchet wound on that play

BostonNut
02-07-2016, 10:32 PM
That play is going to haunt him his entire career....

coreydean
02-07-2016, 10:34 PM
That play is going to haunt him his entire career....

You are probably right. It will be the most talked about play tomorrow on sports talk radio I imagine.

How do you not go get it? It's the Super Bowl!

TASS
02-07-2016, 10:35 PM
Cam is going to have to learn HOW to be humble and it starts today.

motu79
02-07-2016, 10:35 PM
You could see throughout the entire game that Cam seemed disinterested. Just had a bad vibe about him. Didn't surprise me he didn't go after the fumble after watching him all game.

groundsupport
02-07-2016, 10:35 PM
He gave away so many footballs this year. It's a tradition he started.

MasterPattie
02-07-2016, 10:36 PM
If that was a laptop on the ground he'd be all over it.

kyle1707
02-07-2016, 10:37 PM
I think I saw him DAB for it

HBMC
02-07-2016, 10:38 PM
If that was a laptop on the ground he'd be all over it.

http://d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net/images/cm-43589-150ec6b2620564.jpeg

popmaz
02-07-2016, 10:41 PM
He is getting demolished for nothing. To me he looked like he was trying to figure out where the ball would end up vs jumping in where it was. Ridiculous.

jbrandonw
02-07-2016, 10:42 PM
That will definitely be a highlight that haunts him for the rest of his career.

MeteoriteGuy
02-07-2016, 10:43 PM
He gave away so many footballs this year. It's a tradition he started.

Camas?

BostonNut
02-07-2016, 10:43 PM
He is getting demolished for nothing. To me he looked like he was trying to figure out where the ball would end up vs jumping in where it was. Ridiculous.

So it's better to calculate where it might end up rather than dive on it and recover it with the Super Bowl on the line? :confused::confused::confused::confused:

Huh?

funkgut
02-07-2016, 10:46 PM
He is getting demolished for nothing. To me he looked like he was trying to figure out where the ball would end up vs jumping in where it was. Ridiculous.

I agree 100% with you....I think he jumped back to make sure his feet weren't tied up and looking for where the ball was going to pop up. I am not a huge fan of him, but I think he is going to get unnecessarily bashed for this.

coreydean
02-07-2016, 10:47 PM
He is getting demolished for nothing. To me he looked like he was trying to figure out where the ball would end up vs jumping in where it was. Ridiculous.

LOL. You can't be serious. I hope not.

Verufian
02-07-2016, 10:50 PM
Cam is going to have to learn HOW to be humble and it starts today.

This right here.

Pot Roast
02-07-2016, 10:54 PM
Cam can flop on the sidelines just fine, but on a fumble during the game? Hard pass.

popmaz
02-07-2016, 10:55 PM
I agree 100% with you....I think he jumped back to make sure his feet weren't tied up and looking for where the ball was going to pop up. I am not a huge fan of him, but I think he is going to get unnecessarily bashed for this.

I agree. I was watching, and the announcers kept harping on it, and my thought was there is no sense diving into a pile with the ball jostling around. I understand where people are coming from, but I also understand how the play unfolded. The fact is, I am not a Cam or Panthers fan and wanted Denver to win!

xbignick
02-07-2016, 10:57 PM
My initial takeaway was that he overran it, was almost on top of it at that point so couldn't really 'dive' for it. He's put his body on the line all year, looking forward to see him progress next year.

88horsepower
02-07-2016, 10:58 PM
I think some people here are reading into things way too much.

coltsnsox07
02-07-2016, 10:58 PM
You guys are mean, funny, but mean!

bbplaya11
02-07-2016, 11:00 PM
Dont matter game was over anyways, im disgusted how bad they played, dropped passes, missed fgs, special teams was a joke list goes on

tacoma34
02-07-2016, 11:02 PM
https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/d54D3lUB0tBDDio1_so8cQ9QstQ=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6008681/fraidycam.0.gif

rttrffg2012
02-07-2016, 11:07 PM
ESPN reported a lot of late money was coming into Vegas- all on the Broncos.
Maybe Cam's "distant cousin" placed a bet

elgato
02-07-2016, 11:10 PM
Dont matter game was over anyways, im disgusted how bad they played, dropped passes, missed fgs, special teams was a joke list goes on

Now you know how we Cardinals fans feel.

markinca
02-07-2016, 11:12 PM
Cam Newton's postgame press conference was WAY worse and showed me a lot more than anything he did (or didn't do) on the field tonight.

jasonm2121
02-07-2016, 11:13 PM
You could see throughout the entire game that Cam seemed disinterested. Just had a bad vibe about him. Didn't surprise me he didn't go after the fumble after watching him all game.

I agree with this, seemed like he was not into the game at all really. Guy is usually the most hyped up of everyone, seems odd.

jasonm2121
02-07-2016, 11:14 PM
Cam Newton's postgame press conference was WAY worse and showed me a lot more than anything he did (or didn't do) on the field tonight.

What did he do? Missed it

markinca
02-07-2016, 11:16 PM
What did he do? Missed it

Pouting like a little kid with a skinned knee, and then just getting up and leaving abruptly. Real MVP-like behavior. Good work, Cam.

MeteoriteGuy
02-07-2016, 11:16 PM
Kind of dumb they do those after game conferences. So you just lost the biggest game in your life, how do you feel?

majestik101
02-07-2016, 11:17 PM
My wife turned to me and said, boy does the ball have Kryptonite in it or something? I just about fell out of my chair. hahahahaha

jasonm2121
02-07-2016, 11:18 PM
Pouting like a little kid with a skinned knee, and then just getting up and leaving abruptly. Real MVP-like behavior. Good work, Cam.

Figured, he just did not seem with it all day, granted Denver D was impressive as expected but he did not seem too into the game at all

markinca
02-07-2016, 11:18 PM
Kind of dumb they do those after game conferences. So you just lost the biggest game in your life, how do you feel?

I don't think anyone expected Cam to be up there smiling and joking. But take the loss like a man. You're the face of the franchise, for god's sakes - act like it.

motu79
02-07-2016, 11:19 PM
ESPN reported a lot of late money was coming into Vegas- all on the Broncos.
Maybe Cam's "distant cousin" placed a bet

Nah, it was his dad. Just like the college days! Amiright! Ha

popmaz
02-07-2016, 11:29 PM
I don't think anyone expected Cam to be up there smiling and joking. But take the loss like a man. You're the face of the franchise, for god's sakes - act like it.

I am not sure that he didn't. He mentioned what he thought went wrong, including errant passes. He did not throw anyone under the bus! FML, I cannot believe that I am defending Cam.

jbrandonw
02-07-2016, 11:32 PM
https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/d54D3lUB0tBDDio1_so8cQ9QstQ=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6008681/fraidycam.0.gif

Lol. I think that makes it pretty clear.

markinca
02-07-2016, 11:35 PM
I am not sure that he didn't. He mentioned what he thought went wrong, including errant passes. He did not throw anyone under the bus! FML, I cannot believe that I am defending Cam.

I dunno, there's more to answering questions than just what you say. It's how you say it as well. Compare his conference to Kuechly's and it's like night and day.

No one likes a frontrunner - anyone can be happy and congenial when things are good, like, say, when your team goes 15-1 for the regular season. It's when things turn sour that your true character comes out. Even late in the game, when Cam thought he should have gotten a roughing the passer penalty, he literally looked like he was throwing a tantrum, like a child.

I really thought Cam had matured this season, but obviously he's got a ways to go.

Gigantor
02-07-2016, 11:37 PM
He saw the ball, decided to protect his body, and didn't give his team a chance to win a SB. Football teams need leaders, and he is not one at this stage in his career.

Chaddie84
02-07-2016, 11:40 PM
He saw the ball, decided to protect his body, and didn't give his team a chance to win a SB. Football teams need leaders, and he is not one at this stage in his career.

+1 :)!

Ferg1945
02-07-2016, 11:44 PM
My wife turned to me and said, boy does the ball have Kryptonite in it or something? I just about fell out of my chair. hahahahaha

How soon before the ball in that gif gets a green glow LOL :)!:)!:)!

majestik101
02-07-2016, 11:48 PM
How soon before the ball in that gif gets a green glow LOL :)!:)!:)!

Seriously. Someone needs to work on it!!!

tacoma34
02-07-2016, 11:48 PM
How soon before the ball in that gif gets a green glow LOL :)!:)!:)!

Lol I'm sure the internet is on it.

popmaz
02-07-2016, 11:49 PM
I dunno, there's more to answering questions than just what you say. It's how you say it as well. Compare his conference to Kuechly's and it's like night and day.

No one likes a frontrunner - anyone can be happy and congenial when things are good, like, say, when your team goes 15-1 for the regular season. It's when things turn sour that your true character comes out. Even late in the game, when Cam thought he should have gotten a roughing the passer penalty, he literally looked like he was throwing a tantrum, like a child.

I really thought Cam had matured this season, but obviously he's got a ways to go.

So pretty much what any QB does?:coffee:

bubba300
02-07-2016, 11:51 PM
Bottom line is Newton wanted nothing to do with recovering that ball. You can bet your azz that Manning, Brady, Fitzpatrick and or any other NFL QB for that matter would have made a play for that fumble with 3-4 mins left in the Super Bowl down 16-10.

There is what I believe a reaction to protect himself and not sell out for the team and not sell out for a Title.

Like I said before...vertical hatchet wound!

If I was Panthers fan I would have been and continued to be pissed at that play. Jeez I'm pissed watching it over and over and I bet the Broncos.

markinca
02-07-2016, 11:56 PM
MVP! MVP! MVP!

http://i.imgur.com/pFzGSsx.gif

majestik101
02-07-2016, 11:57 PM
MVP! MVP! MVP!

http://i.imgur.com/pFzGSsx.gif

I see so many possibilities for this GIF.

jasonm2121
02-07-2016, 11:58 PM
Just saw the Cam presser, ouch. I understand the loss being tough but he acted like a kid in high school being disciplined. He needs to work on that, always going to be bumps in the road

IronMonkey415
02-07-2016, 11:59 PM
Sniper from the 3rd Reich up in the tower capping his ass?

Is that one possibilities?

IronMonkey415
02-08-2016, 12:00 AM
Watching WW2 documentary to so I'll be referencing what I watch.

MFaulkCollector
02-08-2016, 12:00 AM
If that was a laptop on the ground he'd be all over it.

Bam........ perfect reply.... Actually, had it been a computer he would have scooped it up and threw it out the dorm window before anybody even knew

markinca
02-08-2016, 12:15 AM
So pretty much what any QB does?:coffee:

I don't really watch a TON of football, but I thought this was more tantrumy than I've seen out of other QB's.

http://i.imgur.com/Ywuu9NX.gif

SelfDestruct808
02-08-2016, 12:29 AM
http://i64.tinypic.com/30uzlvl.jpg

byronscott4ever
02-08-2016, 07:46 AM
Maybe he had a case of crab legs?

ark8085
02-08-2016, 09:22 AM
It kinda looks like he almost thought about kicking the ball? Then realized that was a bad idea and stopped himself.

spud1972
02-08-2016, 09:33 AM
It kinda looks like he almost thought about kicking the ball? Then realized that was a bad idea and stopped himself.

Now I am having trouble not seeing it that way LOL... I want to say not a chance, but his left foot does come in looking like kicking could have been in his head...

spud1972
02-08-2016, 09:36 AM
I am guessing not, but interesting for sure.

Boo
02-08-2016, 09:44 AM
I'm not a Cam lover or anything but it almost looked like he was too close to the ball to dive at it. He would have had to drop straight down to his knees to try to get the ball. I really think he was worried about having someone dive at the ball and blow his knees out more than anything.

88horsepower
02-08-2016, 10:42 AM
I'm not a Cam lover or anything but it almost looked like he was too close to the ball to dive at it. He would have had to drop straight down to his knees to try to get the ball. I really think he was worried about having someone dive at the ball and blow his knees out more than anything.

Yeah, I still think people here want to crucify Cam any way they see fit. In full speed I didn't think he was trying not to recover the ball. It's a split second in a scrum. Who knows what's going on in his mind at that second, yet most people have made up their minds it seems.

Call him out for the presser, but I think people are reading into that play a bit too much.

Hardcore
02-08-2016, 10:42 AM
Watched the game here at a Sports Bar in Toronto..
There were 2 very nice gents who I spoke to before the game from Georgia.. former US Air Force veterans... one was wearing a Panthers hoodie... before the game they were hoping for Cam to do well... saying that Auburn is close to Georgia and they had family who went to school at the same time Cam was at Auburn...
During the US anthem (God Bless America and Lady Gaga anthem rendition) they stood at attention and almost looked like tears were ready to flow....
right after the Anthems the one guy took off the Carolina Panthers hoodie....
I asked him why... he said he's cheering for Peyton now as Cam didnt even have the respect to remove the cap and towel from his head during the anthems... he said he lost total respect for him right there... he said that there must be thousands of US servicemen watching that one game overseas and to see a player not remove the hat out of basic respect to the USA and what so many sacrifice so that Cam can make a living from playing a game...
Some people think it doesnt mean a lot to those who serve... I know now that it sure does.

88horsepower
02-08-2016, 10:44 AM
Lol. I think that makes it pretty clear.

It looks like he sees his own guy diving hard and he's trying to move out of the way of that.

chansen10
02-08-2016, 11:04 AM
He saw the ball, decided to protect his body, and didn't give his team a chance to win a SB. Football teams need leaders, and he is not one at this stage in his career.

This is a Joke right? A 26 Y.O MVP who leads a subpar offense into the super bowl? I mean seriously look at what Cam did with Gin and Brown out there at WR.. Those guys aren't even 1s or 2s..Cam missed on some plays but there was also some horse #@#@#@#@ drops and Tolberts fumble killed a drive that had a lot of momentum... Newtons a leader.. I'm not sure why people are so butt hurt that Newton left the post game conference.. That's what'd I'd want from my QB to be that #@#@#@#@ing pisted off that it causes a spark under his ass for next year

whodatbeastly16
02-08-2016, 12:13 PM
This is a Joke right? A 26 Y.O MVP who leads a subpar offense into the super bowl? I mean seriously look at what Cam did with Gin and Brown out there at WR.. Those guys aren't even 1s or 2s..Cam missed on some plays but there was also some horse #@#@#@#@ drops and Tolberts fumble killed a drive that had a lot of momentum... Newtons a leader.. I'm not sure why people are so butt hurt that Newton left the post game conference.. That's what'd I'd want from my QB to be that #@#@#@#@ing pisted off that it causes a spark under his ass for next year

So you're happy that your QB is rude and childish? That he can't simply follow the rules of the post-game presser and be respectful and answer questions like Kuechly did. Anyone can deal with victory, only the strong can bear defeat.

groundsupport
02-08-2016, 12:40 PM
MVP MVP MVP

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/d54D3lUB0tBDDio1_so8cQ9QstQ=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6008681/fraidycam.0.gif

freethrowtommy
02-08-2016, 01:06 PM
I watched the gif about a hundred times and I am not sure what Cam was thinking there.

I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he was trying to play the angle and hope it squirted out, or that he saw his lineman coming in hot after it, but I am not really sure.

He did get his butt kicked all game long and you could tell that his left shoulder was bothering him, so it might have been a self preservation thing. Who knows?

indyguy
02-08-2016, 01:09 PM
He is getting demolished for nothing. To me he looked like he was trying to figure out where the ball would end up vs jumping in where it was. Ridiculous.

I agree 100% with you....I think he jumped back to make sure his feet weren't tied up and looking for where the ball was going to pop up. I am not a huge fan of him, but I think he is going to get unnecessarily bashed for this.

I agree. I was watching, and the announcers kept harping on it, and my thought was there is no sense diving into a pile with the ball jostling around. I understand where people are coming from, but I also understand how the play unfolded. The fact is, I am not a Cam or Panthers fan and wanted Denver to win!

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/gxVsOVAemGMxk-8V8Dr_kp4q6ek=/800x0/filters:no_upscale%28%29/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6008673/camfumble2.0.gif

Jumping away from the ball is quite different from calculating where the ball was.

groundsupport
02-08-2016, 01:12 PM
MVP! MVP! MVP!

http://i.imgur.com/pFzGSsx.gif

That is the greatest gif ever.

Cam Newton homers, you're forever screwed.

cyndeeg3
02-08-2016, 01:12 PM
https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/d54D3lUB0tBDDio1_so8cQ9QstQ=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6008681/fraidycam.0.gif He'll say something about not wanting to hurt his fellow african americans already on the ground. Can't steal from anotha brotha

indyguy
02-08-2016, 01:14 PM
It looks like he sees his own guy diving hard and he's trying to move out of the way of that.

Watch the replay. Ware is grabbing for the ball when Cam jumps back. His OL then falls for the ball.

Biggest game of his career, you would hope that the thought isn't, "Oh my guy might get it"

I really don't care about Cam either way, but to jump away from the ball, no matter who it is, is selfish.

JosieD
02-08-2016, 01:18 PM
He overran the ball and if he dove for it he would have been no where close.

88horsepower
02-08-2016, 01:19 PM
Nobody here can read Cam's mind or interpret exactly what he was doing on that play. I think people see what they want to see there.

Just the same, when Cam got upset in the end zone after getting hit, people saw him look up and get angry. If you keep watching, he gathers himself after getting up and appears to be trying to collect himself and walk away. Perhaps he realized how he appeared to be acting. Perhaps I'm wrong and he was still pouting in his head. A lot of people appear to be seeing what fits their convenient story for how they already felt about Cam.

fungi2510
02-08-2016, 01:21 PM
He'll say something about not wanting to hurt his fellow african americans already on the ground. Can't steal from anotha brotha

And now we have a racial comment. You are so cool.

Clarka3
02-08-2016, 01:34 PM
I agree with this, seemed like he was not into the game at all really. Guy is usually the most hyped up of everyone, seems odd.

have we discussed the nfl being rigged yet?


couldn't have written the better ending to a career for Peyton Manning... :p

Nuurgle
02-08-2016, 04:51 PM
Maybe he had a case of crab legs?
No, that was Jameis Winston :doh:

coltsnsox07
02-08-2016, 09:38 PM
Too bad Thomas Davis wasn't on the field for that fumble, now that guy gave everything he had in him to play that game. Someone should show that photo of Davis' stitched up arm to Cam and see if he gets the point.

Archangel1775
02-08-2016, 10:29 PM
Has anyone considered that muscle memory caused him to prepare to pick it up on the bounce but the defensive players arm changed that?

He did jump back and lunge for it immediately after.

bubba300
02-09-2016, 01:19 PM
Cam Newton said he didn?t dive on Super Bowl fumble in fear of injury | SI.com (http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/09/carolina-panthers-cam-newton-fumble-dive-injury-risk)

There you have it...unreal to me.

jasonm2121
02-09-2016, 07:00 PM
Cam Newton said he didn?t dive on Super Bowl fumble in fear of injury | SI.com (http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/09/carolina-panthers-cam-newton-fumble-dive-injury-risk)

There you have it...unreal to me.

Amazing how much he thought about in that split second moment with the game in the balance, sounds awesome.

Gigantor
02-09-2016, 07:06 PM
Cam Newton said he didn?t dive on Super Bowl fumble in fear of injury | SI.com (http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/09/carolina-panthers-cam-newton-fumble-dive-injury-risk)

There you have it...unreal to me.

http://i.imgur.com/rmdSx.gif

Chaddie84
02-09-2016, 07:30 PM
Watched the game here at a Sports Bar in Toronto..
There were 2 very nice gents who I spoke to before the game from Georgia.. former US Air Force veterans... one was wearing a Panthers hoodie... before the game they were hoping for Cam to do well... saying that Auburn is close to Georgia and they had family who went to school at the same time Cam was at Auburn...
During the US anthem (God Bless America and Lady Gaga anthem rendition) they stood at attention and almost looked like tears were ready to flow....
right after the Anthems the one guy took off the Carolina Panthers hoodie....
I asked him why... he said he's cheering for Peyton now as Cam didnt even have the respect to remove the cap and towel from his head during the anthems... he said he lost total respect for him right there... he said that there must be thousands of US servicemen watching that one game overseas and to see a player not remove the hat out of basic respect to the USA and what so many sacrifice so that Cam can make a living from playing a game...
Some people think it doesnt mean a lot to those who serve... I know now that it sure does.

Good story. I didn't even notice during the pre-game. That's just another reason to dislike the guy.

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/newton-anthem.jpg?quality=100&strip=all&w=1328&h=882&crop=1

jasonm2121
02-09-2016, 07:39 PM
interesting note, some folks I was with were not terribly excited he was chewing gum during the Anthem as well

panther252
02-09-2016, 08:13 PM
Good story. I didn't even notice during the pre-game. That's just another reason to dislike the guy.

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/newton-anthem.jpg?quality=100&strip=all&w=1328&h=882&crop=1

I've never heard of anyone getting on Ray Lewis about that. He's never removed his cap for any of the anthems.

devo
02-09-2016, 08:19 PM
LOL @ the whole "disrespecting" the national anthem thing. Who the hell cares. I can't stand Cam Newton and even I don't care that he wore his spandex thing on his head during the anthem. Ray Lewis used to do that every game and nobody ever said a word.

And chewing gum? Really? Lmao. I've heard it all now. People will seriously come up with anything to bash this guy.

coltsnsox07
02-09-2016, 08:39 PM
"I didn't get the fumble,'' Newton said. "We can play tit for tat. I've seen numerous quarterbacks throw interceptions, and the effort afterwards ... they don't go. I don't dive on one fumble, because of the way my leg was, it could have been [contorted] in a way.

"We didn't lose that game because of that fumble. I can tell you that.''

jasonm2121
02-09-2016, 09:16 PM
I am sure someone said it in one of the 5 threads about Cam but one play that def hurt was the unreal no tackle on the punt return where every Panther thought it was called a fair catch, that was pretty big too, and pretty poor awareness on their part as well

jasonm2121
02-09-2016, 09:23 PM
Oh and Talib was about 3 yards off side on the dinged FG attempt

Chaddie84
02-09-2016, 09:24 PM
LOL @ the whole "disrespecting" the national anthem thing. Who the hell cares. I can't stand Cam Newton and even I don't care that he wore his spandex thing on his head during the anthem. Ray Lewis used to do that every game and nobody ever said a word.

And chewing gum? Really? Lmao. I've heard it all now. People will seriously come up with anything to bash this guy.

http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M8e64d38e01f932508ec56370047ff57do0&w=199&h=299&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0

You mean this dude who puts his hand over his heart, will sing along and sometimes breaks out in tearful emotion during the national anthem? Big difference IMO, but yes, both wear a thingy on their head.

Chaddie84
02-09-2016, 09:29 PM
I am sure someone said it in one of the 5 threads about Cam but one play that def hurt was the unreal no tackle on the punt return where every Panther thought it was called a fair catch, that was pretty big too, and pretty poor awareness on their part as well

There was also contact with the returner prior to the catching the punt that wasn't called and maybe affected everyone on the field. Altogether, it was a weird play.

jasonm2121
02-09-2016, 09:34 PM
There was also contact with the returner prior to the catching the punt that wasn't called and maybe affected everyone on the field. Altogether, it was a weird play.

So weird, just watched Inside NFL on Showtime and saw it in slow motion, just a bizarre play that, in a tight game was pretty important, just reminds us how important awareness is at all times, one simple mistake like that ended up in a huge gain. Never thought we would see a SB winning team go 1-14 on third down conversions with no TD drives, what an insane defense they have.

panther252
02-09-2016, 09:42 PM
http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M8e64d38e01f932508ec56370047ff57do0&w=199&h=299&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0

You mean this dude who puts his hand over his heart, will sing along and sometimes breaks out in tearful emotion during the national anthem? Big difference IMO, but yes, both wear a thingy on their head.

How is it a big difference? Just because Ray reacts to the anthem differently means he gets a pass with the cap on his head and Cam doesn't? Just because he doesn't cry during the anthem doesn't mean he doesn't love his country just as much as him. He always closes his eyes and looks up whilst mouthing along. He gets into it more than a lot of other players. It's fine if you guys want to pile on him for other stuff, but this is just ridiculous.

Chaddie84
02-09-2016, 09:46 PM
Not that anyone cares what Greg McElroy thinks :)

Former Jets QB Greg McElroy says Cam Newton 'quit' on Panthers - New York Jets Blog- ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/58415/former-jets-qb-greg-mcelroy-says-cam-newton-quit-on-panthers)

Chaddie84
02-09-2016, 09:48 PM
"I didn't get the fumble,'' Newton said. "We can play tit for tat. I've seen numerous quarterbacks throw interceptions, and the effort afterwards ... they don't go. I don't dive on one fumble, because of the way my leg was, it could have been [contorted] in a way.

"We didn't lose that game because of that fumble. I can tell you that.''

That is impressive. :coffee:

panther252
02-10-2016, 12:52 PM
Not that anyone cares what Greg McElroy thinks :)

Former Jets QB Greg McElroy says Cam Newton 'quit' on Panthers - New York Jets Blog- ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/58415/former-jets-qb-greg-mcelroy-says-cam-newton-quit-on-panthers)

The living breathing humble brag himself. I can tell he probably loves how everyone is kicking Cam when he's down. I'll always remember him for his hilarious illegal forward pass and that smug rant about how he was much better prepared for the NFL than Cam, alluding to Peyton. Then going off about how awesome he is and that all the Gms are high on him, so expect him to go earlier than most think, only to go in the last round lol.

FreeMan12406
02-10-2016, 03:30 PM
Man don't you just hate it when QB's show no class and don't act appropriate in defeat?

http://media.al.com/live/photo/indianapolis-coltsjpg-004f03dcf3234811.jpg

Undertaker1562
02-10-2016, 03:37 PM
Cam Newton said he didn?t dive on Super Bowl fumble in fear of injury | SI.com (http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/09/carolina-panthers-cam-newton-fumble-dive-injury-risk)

There you have it...unreal to me.

Yeah i would have given him a pass if he said he thought the ball was gonna bounce somewhere else. He just confirmed he was "afraid" of injury in the biggest game of the year. This is like the anti Elway Helicopter dive.

88horsepower
02-10-2016, 03:42 PM
Man don't you just hate it when QB's show no class and don't act appropriate in defeat?

http://media.al.com/live/photo/indianapolis-coltsjpg-004f03dcf3234811.jpg

For the millionth time, they talked after the game.

FreeMan12406
02-10-2016, 03:48 PM
For the millionth time, they talked after the game.

Oh I know.

But thank you for making the point one could be made for Cam.

One's actions don't always tell the whole story. Some could say that what Peyton did was in bad taste just as some will say what Cam did was in bad taste.

Cam owes nothing to the media. Cam greeted Peyton after the game, was smiling, and had great things to say about Peyton, a brother in the exclusive league that is the NFL.

Cam leaving a presser doesn't define Cam just as Peyton leaving the field before the Super Bowl was over and not congratulating the other team on the field doesn't define Peyton.

FreeMan12406
02-10-2016, 03:50 PM
Also there's the laptop issue that people bring up from time to time about Cam to again, define who he is.

Peyton was involved in a sexual assault scandal that was covered up by his father and who settled with the victim out of court. Again, does that define Peyton? I would venture to say that sexual assault is worse on the scale of bad things than petty theft.

airedwin
02-10-2016, 04:00 PM
Cam Newton said he didn?t dive on Super Bowl fumble in fear of injury | SI.com (http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/09/carolina-panthers-cam-newton-fumble-dive-injury-risk)

There you have it...unreal to me.

lol but he'll dive head first into end zones for no reason other than to showboat

jasonm2121
02-10-2016, 07:03 PM
Oh I know.

But thank you for making the point one could be made for Cam.

One's actions don't always tell the whole story. Some could say that what Peyton did was in bad taste just as some will say what Cam did was in bad taste.

Cam owes nothing to the media. Cam greeted Peyton after the game, was smiling, and had great things to say about Peyton, a brother in the exclusive league that is the NFL.

Cam leaving a presser doesn't define Cam just as Peyton leaving the field before the Super Bowl was over and not congratulating the other team on the field doesn't define Peyton.


I think it has more to do with the idea that Cam is pretty much the same after most if not all losses. We did not see it this year because they lost twice total. That was always the question most people had, it was all nice when they were winning and the team (not just him) was celebrating with team photos mid game, taking down signs etc. I do not particularly care but if you do that I think most would agree that you cannot have it both ways and be a sore loser in public. Just how I see it, everyone has their own view and that is the great thing about debate. I was on the fence since the beginning and for me to swing on his support side, I was hoping to see more leadership when called to the podium. For those who did not like him at all, this gave them exactly what they wanted.

coltsnsox07
02-10-2016, 09:50 PM
Here's what trying hard after giving the ball away looks like Cam

http://http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz43/coltsnsox07/peytond1_zps5ow3eyne.gif (http://s812.photobucket.com/user/coltsnsox07/media/peytond1_zps5ow3eyne.gif.html)

88horsepower
02-10-2016, 09:55 PM
Oh I know.

But thank you for making the point one could be made for Cam.

One's actions don't always tell the whole story. Some could say that what Peyton did was in bad taste just as some will say what Cam did was in bad taste.

Cam owes nothing to the media. Cam greeted Peyton after the game, was smiling, and had great things to say about Peyton, a brother in the exclusive league that is the NFL.

Cam leaving a presser doesn't define Cam just as Peyton leaving the field before the Super Bowl was over and not congratulating the other team on the field doesn't define Peyton.

No argument from me. I think it's ridiculous that some people think they can tell everything by a photo or a short clip of someone.

Unfortunately for Cam, he keeps making his situation worse. Perception is that he left the presser early and didn't drop on the fumble because he's immature and not a team guy. What he said a couple of days after all of that to explain his actions isn't doing him any favors. That's a much larger data set than a two minute presser and a few seconds of footage from the game.

jasonm2121
02-10-2016, 09:56 PM
No argument from me. I think it's ridiculous that some people think they can tell everything by a photo or a short clip of someone.

Blink ked, peep it

FreeMan12406
02-10-2016, 10:12 PM
We all realize we're making a big deal about a game?

coltsnsox07
02-10-2016, 10:22 PM
You gotta love the effort Peyton gives after screwing up..
http://http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz43/coltsnsox07/manning1_zpsj9ggnzq4.gif (http://s812.photobucket.com/user/coltsnsox07/media/manning1_zpsj9ggnzq4.gif.html)

Pot Roast
02-10-2016, 11:14 PM
I don't know if the guy is mad he didn't get a pick 6 or if Peyton got him in the open field.

HBMC
02-10-2016, 11:24 PM
I don't know if the guy is mad he didn't get a pick 6 or if Peyton got him in the open field.

Probably the latter, especially for a guy as athletic as Calais Campbell is lol.

big4mi2ke0
02-11-2016, 12:59 AM
You gotta love the effort Peyton gives after screwing up..
http://http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz43/coltsnsox07/manning1_zpsj9ggnzq4.gif (http://s812.photobucket.com/user/coltsnsox07/media/manning1_zpsj9ggnzq4.gif.html)

Hell of a play in my opinion. Avoided getting crushed by Calais and still managed to bring him down.

Archangel1775
02-11-2016, 02:26 AM
Has anyone considered that muscle memory caused him to prepare to pick it up on the bounce but the defensive players arm changed that?

He did jump back and lunge for it immediately after.

Jeez,someone hire this guy a damn personal assistant to manage dumb comments, I take it all back, sacrifice man! Sure it would have been 4th and 30 but ita football!I thought he learned something in that car accident

Bassplayah101
02-11-2016, 09:02 AM
Cam was on top of the ball, had he gone down for it, there is a strong chance for injury.
I don't really blame him, but we are talking about football, and the super bowl.