Poll: Are you For or Against Corporate Advertisement Patches on Jerseys?

[pgisback]

So the NBA is continuing its pursuit to add the ability for teams to sell spots on their jerseys in order to advertise. So big market teams don't have an unfair advantage they propose to allow teams to keep 50% and 50% goes to a revenue sharing pool.

I personally do not want to see it, but it would make for some interesting patch cards!!

NBA owners to discuss league proposal to put advertisements on jerseys (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14762701/nba-owners-discuss-league-proposal-put-advertisements-jerseys)

[CubKings]

It would just look very stupid and cheap. It would take away from having the classic uniforms as we know them.

[afrobandit]

Where is the option for I DON'T CARE????

[asujbl]

Yep. Don't care.

[pistonsfan]

honestly, I'm not that against it.

[domin824]

Just more $$$ for the league that already makes a killing.

[DalliLlama11]

From a hobby standpoint, cool for patches. But then you get to the point where you dont know a team jersey, but rather who their sponsors are instead. From a fan standpoint, i think its stupid. I hate it in soccer and would hate it just as much for basketball.

[AbraCalabro]

the league is all about money

the nba is dead to me anyway

still against it just to be a prick

75% of the nba players are already dressed like cyborgs

the nba might as well whore itself out for more money

up yours stern

up yours bennet

[440shane]

Another vote for don't care

[pgisback]

I want a sweet State Farm patch with the Hoopers on it.

[ajscards101]

Some practice jerseys already have them

As long as they don't look like this, idc:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mSTmiImhOIA/UIXP0W1e0zI/AAAAAAAAEDo/MDyA8noXLLY/s640/rick+nash+joe+thornton+hc+davos+swiss+lockout+nhl+nascar+ad.jpg

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[Rip67vdub]

Some practice jerseys already have them

As long as they don't look like this, idc:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mSTmiImhOIA/UIXP0W1e0zI/AAAAAAAAEDo/MDyA8noXLLY/s640/rick+nash+joe+thornton+hc+davos+swiss+lockout+nhl+nascar+ad.jpg

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[pingbling23]

I dislike it. The flippers will love it at first and then the prices of patches will drop due to over saturation of patches.

[JasonM32]

I'm strongly against it. I'm a huge fan and collector of NBA jerseys and this will negatively impact my love for the NBA. I will probably move on to other interests if the NBA goes this way. Not kidding.

[DubNation30]

Adidas is enough advertisement. I don't want to see McDonald's patches on the cards.

[Cavaliercards]

Enjoy European Soccer so as long as it's done right I am ok with it

[drobfan8]

We have this in the Pro League in Australia and it is tacky. It used to be much worse I think. But you guys will change from "I don't care" real quick.

[jcardstore]

I think the "I don't cares" will change real quick once you see this in action. It's a horrible idea and I hate it. I also collect jerseys and stuff and would never frame and display something with awful looking ads all over it.

This benefits flippers who just care about selling "SICK PATCHES" and screws over true collectors.

[groundsupport]

Some practice jerseys already have them

As long as they don't look like this, idc:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mSTmiImhOIA/UIXP0W1e0zI/AAAAAAAAEDo/MDyA8noXLLY/s640/rick+nash+joe+thornton+hc+davos+swiss+lockout+nhl+nascar+ad.jpg

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/5007b2ea84aef6ab9cd08134/t/545c5587e4b0ccac6b4ff070/1415337351340/

Never have I craved a Big Mac so much by just looking at a shin guard.

[asujbl]

I think the "I don't cares" will change real quick once you see this in action. It's a horrible idea and I hate it. I also collect jerseys and stuff and would never frame and display something with awful looking ads all over it.

This benefits flippers who just care about selling "SICK PATCHES" and screws over true collectors.

Why?

I watch a soccer game and I don't care. I watch Nascar and I don't care (I don't actually but if I did). I watch Golf and I don't care. It's all white noise after the first 3 or 4 times you see it.

People are going to the extreme with this. They are talking minimal advertising - not like the minor league stuff - it's not that big a deal.

Cavs put a Quicken Loans patch on their jersey? Wouldn't care even a little bit

[Quigley24]

I just don't see where they could put the patches where it wouldn't look weird. Those 90% awful sleeved jerseys are most likely to be adopted if this passes, and shooting with a patch on your sleeve can't feel normal. If they go premier league style with the big sponsor on the middle (please dear god no, it just doesn't fit the NBA uniform), then you either get a fairly normal looking sponsor logo, or a massive Chevrolet logo which looks atrocious on the new Manchester United uniforms.

[SethMurphy]

already rolling in the D League...... but yeah, I don't care for it

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[NewVintageNY]

I will buy a LeBron game used McDonald's patch.

[asujbl]

already rolling in the D League...... but yeah, I don't care for it

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http://www.banderasnews.com/1212/images/nbalegends.jpg

There is a good example...

Do I care for it? Not really.

But do I really care in the grand scheme of things? Not even a little.

By the 5th game I watch I wouldn't even notice it

[Inferno]

No. Hell no.

I don't watch much basketball but I am a hockey fan, and I'm afraid that the NHL is just waiting for someone else to do it first (NBA is clearly the front runner) before they start plastering ads on NHL jerseys.

Advertising already invades our lives far too much as it is. You can't turn your head without seeing an ad plastered somewhere, next thing you know they'll be putting ads on the inside of our eyelids so we'll see them in our sleep. Advertisers are relentless and will stop at nothing to throw an ad at you every waking moment of your day.

It starts, they say, with a small 2.5x2.5 inch patch. How long before they start creeping up the size of the patch, or start selling multiple patches on different parts of the jersey. Before you know it the team logo will be replaced entirely by a huge Pepsi logo and the team name will be relegated to a little word mark on the shoulder or something. This sort of thing might fly in European leagues or leagues that legitimately need the extra revenue to survive but we're talking the biggest, most successful leagues in North America that already make a fortune without the ads. This is just spitting on the tradition and history of the uniform for pure greed.

I hope the day never comes that NHL jerseys are ruined in this way. However Bettman will jump at any opportunity to make a dime and tradition be damned. He just doesn't want to do it first, he'll wait for the NBA then say "well they're doing it so we can too".

[asujbl]

No. Hell no.

I don't watch much basketball but I am a hockey fan, and I'm afraid that the NHL is just waiting for someone else to do it first (NBA is clearly the front runner) before they start plastering ads on NHL jerseys.

Advertising already invades our lives far too much as it is. You can't turn your head without seeing an ad plastered somewhere, next thing you know they'll be putting ads on the inside of our eyelids so we'll see them in our sleep. Advertisers are relentless and will stop at nothing to throw an ad at you every waking moment of your day.

It starts, they say, with a small 2.5x2.5 inch patch. How long before they start creeping up the size of the patch, or start selling multiple patches on different parts of the jersey. Before you know it the team logo will be replaced entirely by a huge Pepsi logo and the team name will be relegated to a little word mark on the shoulder or something. This sort of thing might fly in European leagues or leagues that legitimately need the extra revenue to survive but we're talking the biggest, most successful leagues in North America that already make a fortune without the ads. This is just spitting on the tradition and history of the uniform for pure greed.

I hope the day never comes that NHL jerseys are ruined in this way. However Bettman will jump at any opportunity to make a dime and tradition be damned. He just doesn't want to do it first, he'll wait for the NBA then say "well they're doing it so we can too".

How much would I get paid for these eyelid advertisements?

If it still lets me sleep, and get paid, then sign me up.

[jcardstore]

Why?

I watch a soccer game and I don't care. I watch Nascar and I don't care (I don't actually but if I did). I watch Golf and I don't care. It's all white noise after the first 3 or 4 times you see it.

People are going to the extreme with this. They are talking minimal advertising - not like the minor league stuff - it's not that big a deal.

Cavs put a Quicken Loans patch on their jersey? Wouldn't care even a little bit

One small patch is fine but we all know it wont stop at that. It will turn into every square inch of the jersey rented out and covered in junk.

[IronMonkey415]

Would love to get a Slim Jim patch on a Omri Casspi card.

[Boo]

Half the teams have stupid "jerseys" anyway and people still watch.

[duron]

Why?

I watch a soccer game and I don't care. I watch Nascar and I don't care (I don't actually but if I did). I watch Golf and I don't care. It's all white noise after the first 3 or 4 times you see it.

People are going to the extreme with this. They are talking minimal advertising - not like the minor league stuff - it's not that big a deal.

Cavs put a Quicken Loans patch on their jersey? Wouldn't care even a little bit

They say minimal and that may very well be true, but that's just greasing the wheel and getting people to warm up to the idea. I'm actually surprised that we haven't already seen nba jerseys littered with corporate logos.

[duron]

Would love to get a Slim Jim patch on a Omri Casspi card.

Lololol

[asujbl]

They say minimal and that may very well be true, but that's just greasing the wheel and getting people to warm up to the idea. I'm actually surprised that we haven't already seen nba jerseys littered with corporate logos.

Probably true.

Still won't bother me at all.

Half the people here (they will now because of this thread) probably won't even notice it on the all star game jerseys this weekend

[jcardstore]

Probably true.

Still won't bother me at all.

Half the people here (they will now because of this thread) probably won't even notice it on the all star game jerseys this weekend

That Kia patch isn't bad at all. I think the placement of it is ok. Plus I don't really care about the all-star jerseys. Don't want to see any ads on team jerseys.

[No1CavsFan]

I don't really care, some company patches would actually be pretty cool.

But then, that's nothing compared to what Red Bull did with New York in the MLS, and with a Salzburg team in Austria (Red Bull Salzburg)

[Quigley24]

I don't really care, some company patches would actually be pretty cool.

But then, that's nothing compared to what Red Bull did with New York in the MLS, and with a Salzburg team in Austria (Red Bull Salzburg)

You wouldn't want to see the Bucks relocate to Seattle and become the Seattle Starbucks? :p

[JasonM32]

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[fdjizm]

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[iloveturbos]

They just started yesterday... All star jerseys had that "Kia" patch... What a sad day 😔

[JasonM32]

They just started yesterday... All star jerseys had that "Kia" patch... What a sad day 😔

Fugly.

[xavieronly1]

I just want to know when I can buy Charlotte Hornets jersey with Jumpman logo.

[trixstar]

Coming next year
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[jcardstore]

The Goodyear logo doesn't look bad at all

[asujbl]

The only one of those posted above that would "bother" me... and I still don't care as my previous posts all suggest... would be the Nets simply because the red doesn't make any sense to me.

The others? Won't even notice by Game 2 of them wearing them.

[cshelb34687]

Just more $$$ for the league that already makes a killing.

As collectors, you realize that we fund part of their revenue right?

[TBarn291]

I like that patch on the Cavs jersey.

[JMarchand1981]

Celtics will have a GE patch. I love it.

[duron]

As collectors, you realize that we fund part of their revenue right?

Do you honestly think he's not aware of that? Lol. He's just making a broader statement. Just because corporations have to make more and more profit each year just to continue to exist doesn't mean it's like, cool, man.

[cshelb34687]

Do you honestly think he's not aware of that? Lol. He's just making a broader statement. Just because corporations have to make more and more profit each year just to continue to exist doesn't mean it's like, cool, man.



Understood, however if he is worried about how much they are getting paid, then funding them more is really not going to help the situation.


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[EMD34]

I can kind of understand not caring, but who the #@#@#@#@ are the 11 people who like it?

[trixstar]

I'm sure these will pull premium prices when they are in a card.

[Crazybella8]

It really doesn't matter about the patches because they will all be "event worn" anyhow which translates to fake, manufactured garbage!

[jj2]

It really doesn't matter about the patches because they will all be "event worn" anyhow which translates to fake, manufactured garbage!

Except the ones that aren't.

[Kingofkings1281]

I love the ticket scalping site being front and center on a jersey.

[duron]

Except the ones that aren't.

Oh c'mon man, you know the majority aren't going to be game used.

Pointing out the exceptions seem... pointless.

[M4YH3M1]

Hell no, it's friggin disgusting.

It's the epitome of corporate whoredom.

There is more than enough arena real-estate, ad break time and everything else where companies get to whore their wares.

Leave the goddamn sport pure!!!

[BoxBreaker72]

Fans have enough shoved down their throats. It's cheap looking and borderline pathetic.

It's only 7-10M a year which is scraps to the NBA at this point. Why do it? It's not worth the bad vibes it sends out to the average fan.

I remember baseball putting spiderman on the bases years ago and they ended up feeling dirty and never did anything like it again.

It's low rent and a bad PR move. The ADs are not worth the negative reception most fans have (including me).

If it was paying the teams 100M a year, I would not be able to kill it.

[jj2]

Oh c'mon man, you know the majority aren't going to be game used.

Pointing out the exceptions seem... pointless.

Since when have the majority of non-rookie mem cards been event or player worn?

[duron]

Since when have the majority of non-rookie mem cards been event or player worn?

Just trying to get why you keep cherrypicking.

[jj2]

Just trying to get why you keep cherrypicking.

What are you talking about? I replied to a quote that said all patches were "event worn" and fake. How is what I said cherry picking in that context? What was your point again?

[duron]

What are you talking about? I replied to a quote that said all patches were "event worn" and fake. How is what I said cherry picking in that context? What was your point again?

They didn't use the word "all" in some literal context. They were making a general statement commenting on the extremely questionable nature of much of the material they use. It's not like the practice is going to suddenly stop once these corporate logo patches start appearing in Panini sets.

Simple, no?

[jj2]

They didn't use the word "all" in some literal context. They were making a general statement commenting on the extremely questionable nature of much of the material they use. It's not like the practice is going to suddenly stop once these corporate logo patches start appearing in Panini sets.

Simple, no?

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[asujbl]

Fans have enough shoved down their throats. It's cheap looking and borderline pathetic.

It's only 7-10M a year which is scraps to the NBA at this point. Why do it? It's not worth the bad vibes it sends out to the average fan.

I remember baseball putting spiderman on the bases years ago and they ended up feeling dirty and never did anything like it again.

It's low rent and a bad PR move. The ADs are not worth the negative reception most fans have (including me).

If it was paying the teams 100M a year, I would not be able to kill it.

I like when people tell other people that 10 million dollars is scraps... as Dan Gilbert writes a 50 million dollar check for taxes, not paying players, simply paying the luxury tax to put a good product out there... but don't you dare try and recoup any of that. You have enough already.

It's fun to play with other peoples money.

[Scottish Punk]

This is even more likely to ramp up when the current ESPN contract is up. I don't think the next TV deal will be as high with all the financial difficulties ESPN is having. The league will look to make up and increase revenue from a different stream. I think it is tacky, but inevitable.

[mrveggieman]

As long as it doesn't negatively affect the quality of play on the court nor does it cost me anything extra I'm cool with it.

[BoxBreaker72]

I like when people tell other people that 10 million dollars is scraps... as Dan Gilbert writes a 50 million dollar check for taxes, not paying players, simply paying the luxury tax to put a good product out there... but don't you dare try and recoup any of that. You have enough already.

It's fun to play with other peoples money.

When you are an absolute giant like the NBA, 7-10M is scraps. I don't care how you want to put it, it is.

I'm all for capitalism. Make that money in other ways than defacing the ONLY pure thing fans have to look at during a game without AD's thrown in their face.

[asujbl]

When you are an absolute giant like the NBA, 7-10M is scraps. I don't care how you want to put it, it is.

I'm all for capitalism. Make that money in other ways than defacing the ONLY pure thing fans have to look at during a game without AD's thrown in their face.

Why do you keep saying the NBA as a whole? The 10 million goes into Dan Gilbert's pocket (in the Cavs situation)

That directly impacts the product he is able to put on the floor and the in game experience.

Keep spending his money though. It doesn't matter to him.

[Jin]

Some people here acting like players are gonna stop in the middle of the game to do the Verizon jingle and then have a dude in a giant subway footlong costume come out and break dance at center court. NBA is littered with ads - commercials, arenas, on the court themselves.. these are sponsor patches that you won't even be able to make out watching a game.

[BoxBreaker72]

Why do you keep saying the NBA as a whole? The 10 million goes into Dan Gilbert's pocket (in the Cavs situation)

That directly impacts the product he is able to put on the floor and the in game experience.

Keep spending his money though. It doesn't matter to him.

All teams will be getting paid by sponsors is how I am understanding this. It varies team to team but my point remains the same.

Raise ticket prices to make up the money. I would rather pay 10% more per ticket than see ads on a jersey.

You're missing the point though. I don't care how much they make. Make 100 billion a year, god bless. Charge 30$ for a beer. Hit the local TV deal up and get more... Cheers.

Putting ads on jerseys is sacrilegious. We can agree to disagree.

[asujbl]

All teams will be getting paid by sponsors is how I am understanding this. It varies team to team but my point remains the same.

Raise ticket prices to make up the money. I would rather pay 10% more per ticket than see ads on a jersey.

You're missing the point though. I don't care how much they make. Make 100 billion a year, god bless. Charge 30$ for a beer. Hit the local TV deal up and get more... Cheers.

Putting ads on jerseys is sacrilegious. We can agree to disagree.

Except your point isn't the same.

10 million to the NBA? If you want to call that pennies then fine. 10 million a year to the Cavs? That's a huge revenue stream.

And guess what? Nike is already an ad on the jersey. Just as it was when Reebok was doing it before that. Just because Goodyear isn't the ones churning out the inventory doesn't mean Nike isn't an advertisement.

[BoxBreaker72]

Except your point isn't the same.

10 million to the NBA? If you want to call that pennies then fine. 10 million a year to the Cavs? That's a huge revenue stream.

And guess what? Nike is already an ad on the jersey. Just as it was when Reebok was doing it before that. Just because Goodyear isn't the ones churning out the inventory doesn't mean Nike isn't an advertisement.

I think you know that's not the same.

We are now wandering into the abyss.

[asujbl]

I think you know that's not the same.

We are now wandering into the abyss.

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[duron]

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[Andy5]

The Magic join the party

Orlando Magic to wear Disney patches on uniforms (http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/19686951/orlando-magic-wear-disney-patches-uniforms)

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[Scottish Punk]

This WILL happen in all sports and become more abundant. Only way to keep revenue stream going up and pay for huge contracts. I can also see a future with more pay per view options as far as streaming is concerned. The entire cable industry is changing.

[pgisback]

$20 mil a year to get on a Warriors jersey. They should sell tons of spots on their jersey to start looking like some of those international hockey teams.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJh2803VAAEGjoy.jpg

[IronMonkey415]

A snicker bar logo on the jersey could be cute.

[pgisback]

U G L Y!!! Some of the other teams at least try to keep their advertisements color coordinated.

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[IronMonkey415]

Boston Celtics with that Lucky Charm cereal guy would be dope as hell.

[cshelb34687]

Boston Celtics with that Lucky Charm cereal guy would be dope as hell.

Yeah! That would be awesome! Love the idea!

[elee712]

I don't like it but if you look beyond that ugliness it gives teams added incentive to get better. Nobody will pay top dollar to advertise on a bad team.

[JMys55]

Finishing touch on ruining NBA jerseys starting in 2010-11

Skin tight, sleeved all inclusive fan, advertising, NBA logo on back, with a college Nike swoosh... garbage

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[Inferno]

I don't like it but if you look beyond that ugliness it gives teams added incentive to get better. Nobody will pay top dollar to advertise on a bad team.

Not sure any billion dollar franchise is sweating enough over a $5M/year jersey ad to change how the team is managed. Teams should be trying to improve regardless of what little patch is on the jersey.

[SHowley2003]

Just bumping this up to see what people are thinking now that we are a few weeks into the season. What is the best guess as to when we see the advertisement logos on Prime Patch cards? Will they just end up as a random patch or will Panini market them specifically in a product like Flawless or Immaculate?

As far as the visuals of them it seems to really depend on what the individual teams allowed. The GE logo on the C’s jersey is in the team colors and it’s not even noticeable during the game IMO. I’m watching the Bucks/Spurs right now though. The Harley Davidson logo looks trashy on the Bucks jersey. I don’t like that look. That being said how cool would a 1/1 Giannis Harley Davidson patch be?!? I️ bet that would be a highly sought after card.

PS can you tell I’m typing from my iPhone?

[dahabi]

I see I’m not in the minority when I say that I do not watch basketball for the aesthetics of the jerseys, but rather for the actual basketball game.

[Stat Monsters]

Honestly, if it helps subsidize experience for all, meaning players get more money (or maybe the incremental revenue goes towards retired veterans with at least 4 years served who need medical assistance in the future) as well as owners who are losing money, but most importantly the fans. Do something for the fans. Lower ticket prices, lower parking rates, lower concessions food prices, do something so that a family of 4 won't be spending $500+ to go to a game. The purpose is not to line the pockets of the rich to get richer, I'd hope.

[bkcardcollector]

I find the lakers wish symbol strange like they are playing for make a wish or they wish they could win more.

[JasonM32]

I find the lakers wish symbol strange like they are playing for make a wish or they wish they could win more.

I "wish" the Lakers didn't cock up their jerseys with that stupid logo.

[HP7163]

Not a fan... our (Americin) sports jersey are considered "cool" and billboard free which is a strong sell point

I know teams have the option to put Fitbit etc on Jersey but it's gonna turn into all the European or world jerseys eventually. $$$