Younger collectors, come on in and test your knowledge

[SteveO21]

I was just browsing around ebay and reminiscing on some older cards from when I first started collecting as a kid. This card popped up and I started wondering how much younger collectors go back and actually read up on the history of the hobby. I'll start with one that will always stand out to me as being a pretty memorable card.

Can any of you younger collectors explain why this card is special?

http://i67.tinypic.com/2uyqekx.jpg

Once we get this knocked out, anyone else can feel free to post up a card from yesteryear that is meaningful to us collectors who have been collecting since before memorabilia and autos were inserted in basically every product.

[Doublexthebeast]

I know the answer to it so I won't answer it so early in the thread. BUT, I commented here to see what you are referring to as "younger collectors?"

[smalltown]

I pulled that all the time.

[Jpayne7787]

I didn't know anything about this card until I just looked at the it now, but I'm fairly certain I know what it is now, is this the only card where "that" is shown? I'm assuming so.

[Quigley24]

Ah, pretty cool!

[SteveO21]

I know the answer to it so I won't answer it so early in the thread. BUT, I commented here to see what you are referring to as "younger collectors?"

For me, it would be anyone under the age of 25, or anyone who didn't get into the hobby until after 2000. It's completely subjective though.

[Gbulldogs1010]

17... not sure if it's a misprint but for some reason jordan is wearing #12

[CubKings]

I have this card and I know what it's about, as well.

[xavieronly1]

This layup was Sam Vincent's only basket in the game.

And because of this layup, MJ hired him for the Bobcats coach.

[CubKings]

17... not sure if it's a misprint but for some reason jordan is wearing #12

Yes, because his jersey was stolen before the game. So he got the 12. I wonder if it had Jordan on the back or blank? Or some other name.

Was anybody #12 at the time?

[SteveO21]

17... not sure if it's a misprint but for some reason jordan is wearing #12

There you have it.

Original image PSA notes the significance to a degree. The story behind Jordan wearing # 12 in the picture is here... The time Michael Jordan wore No. 12 | SI.com (http://www.si.com/nba/2015/02/18/michael-jordan-bulls-jersey-number-12)
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[RandysHobby]

Im 22, and I have 0 idea.

EDIT: I now see Jordan wearing an odd number, is that it?

[asujbl]

This layup was Sam Vincent's only basket in the game.

And because of this layup, MJ hired him for the Bobcats coach.

Awesome

[hoopstaj]

wish Champion had made that jersey, I collect 90's basketball jersey's and would love one for my collection

[SteveO21]

This one isn't so much a trivia question as just an example of a time when memorabilia cards actually meant something. The following set was produced for the 1997-98 season and these cards simply have a reasonably sized swatch of a jersey in them. Not a patch even, just a plain 1 color piece of the jersey. Yet, they sell for hundreds of dollars still today because, at the time, Upper Deck didn't flood the market with "memorabilia" cards and the cards explicitly stated on the back that they were from game worn jerseys, worn by that specific player. There were only 23 cards in the set (22 different players, with Jordan having a regular version and an autographed version /23). They were inserted at a rate of 1:2,500 packs (or 1:69 boxes)! This Reggie Miller card just sold for $202 less than 2 weeks ago. The Kevin Johnson (probably the cheapest card in the set) sold for $73 last month. They still hold value because of the aforementioned characteristics. In the end Upper Deck was part of the undoing of the significance of memorabilia cards, but they had the right idea early on. I could say we need to be holding Panini to a higher standard but at this point I'm afraid the market has been so flooded that the effects are going to be irreversible, unless they just stop making memorabilia cards for several years (which isn't going to happen).

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[xavieronly1]

I do have a question about UD Game Jersey card.

Penny has 2 verisons in 97-98 and a card in 98-99. After 98-99, Penny moved to play in Phx. UD did not make another Orlando magic jersey card for him. UD made a Penny Hardaway Suns patch card in Ultimate.

So........where are the Penny Hardaway patch cutting from those Orlando Magic jerseys?

[SteveO21]

I do have a question about UD Game Jersey card.

Penny has 2 verisons in 97-98 and a card in 98-99. After 98-99, Penny moved to play in Phx. UD did not make another Orlando magic jersey card for him. UD made a Penny Hardaway Suns patch card in Ultimate.

So........where are the Penny Hardaway patch cutting from those Orlando Magic jerseys?

Very good question, and one that we might not actually like the answer for. Have they really NEVER made a Penny Hardaway card with a Magic patch in it?

[xavieronly1]

Very good question, and one that we might not actually like the answer for. Have they really NEVER made a Penny Hardaway card with a Magic patch in it?

ZERO magic patch card under Upper Deck/Topps/Skybox brand. Only Panini did it in recent years.

[Hess687]

Great card OP, I remember pulling this card as a kid and noticing Jordan in the wrong jersey right away. Unfortunately, the card doesn't sell for much even though it's truly a 1/1 card as you won't see another card with Jordan wearing the number 12.

Either way, I still have this card today sitting in my old school binder mixed in with all my other Jordan cards from the early 90's.

[lietuvalabas]

wish Champion had made that jersey, I collect 90's basketball jersey's and would love one for my collection

This. I have a pretty decent 90s jersey collection myself and this one would definitely allow you to be the Bro-king with that. that or a 00 greg ostertag jersey

[SteveO21]

ZERO magic patch card under Upper Deck/Topps/Skybox brand. Only Panini did it in recent years.

That's pretty crazy. Have no choice but to assume UD destroyed them or lost them at some point. No reason to not use the patches if they had them.

[thepinoymamba]

I used to remember that reading beckett magazine and that any Michael Jordan Appearance card even if it's not his card valued more than any regular card of that same particular player.

[hoopstaj]

This. I have a pretty decent 90s jersey collection myself and this one would definitely allow you to be the Bro-king with that. that or a 00 greg ostertag jersey

definite Bro status haha. My ultimate Champion jersey I want is the #2 Gary Payton Sonics. I have never seen it and I know champion made a limited run. It's my holy grail

[SteveO21]

I used to remember that reading beckett magazine and that any Michael Jordan Appearance card even if it's not his card valued more than any regular card of that same particular player.

This card is an example of the Jordan multiplier

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/HJsAAOSwZ1lWczEg/s-l500.jpg

It sells higher than any card in the set that isn't the actual Jordan card, or the Kobe.

[kairi-2008]

This card is an example of the Jordan multiplier

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/HJsAAOSwZ1lWczEg/s-l500.jpg

It sells higher than any card in the set that isn't the actual Jordan card, or the Kobe.

That is a stunning card, wow.

[lietuvalabas]

definite Bro status haha. My ultimate Champion jersey I want is the #2 Gary Payton Sonics. I have never seen it and I know champion made a limited run. It's my holy grail

indeed that payton would be the shib

my Bro-est threads:

Jeff Hornacek jazz
googs- suns
olowakandi- clippers
rodman- mavs
rasheed Wallace- both bullets and hawks


im sure I have a few more even bro-er ones but those came to mind. I have 40ish

[SHOWTIMERAMON]

MICHAEL JORDAN IN THE BACKGROUND WEARING #12 cuz his jersey got stolen from the locker room

[MGoBlue]

I used to remember that reading beckett magazine and that any Michael Jordan Appearance card even if it's not his card valued more than any regular card of that same particular player.

This card instantly came to mind for me! It was a big deal for me and my buddies when this product came out while we were 13 years old. Lol


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm12/buckley10/3D25F924-1654-4B6F-A450-97F52C26C8AD_zpsj9au5wku.jpg (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/buckley10/media/3D25F924-1654-4B6F-A450-97F52C26C8AD_zpsj9au5wku.jpg.html)

[lietuvalabas]

This card instantly came to mind for me! It was a big deal for me and my buddies when this product came out while we were 13 years old. Lol


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm12/buckley10/3D25F924-1654-4B6F-A450-97F52C26C8AD_zpsj9au5wku.jpg (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/buckley10/media/3D25F924-1654-4B6F-A450-97F52C26C8AD_zpsj9au5wku.jpg.html)

well...that just due to the bro-ness of googs (see my post above) ya dig...?

[SteveO21]

This card instantly came to mind for me! It was a big deal for me and my buddies when this product came out while we were 13 years old. Lol


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm12/buckley10/3D25F924-1654-4B6F-A450-97F52C26C8AD_zpsj9au5wku.jpg (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/buckley10/media/3D25F924-1654-4B6F-A450-97F52C26C8AD_zpsj9au5wku.jpg.html)

This one had some serious trade value at my school. Baby Jordan shooting over Jordan

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[RookieAddict]

What year and set is this? I need one of those!!

That is a stunning card, wow.

[ninjacookies]

Harold Minor's fleer ultra RC fading away on MJ, too.

edit: just saw it's already been posted.

[the27guy]

90 hoops! My first set. Brings back the memories.

[SteveO21]

What year and set is this? I need one of those!!

1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium
Randomly inserted in hobby packs only at a rate of one in 72 packs, this 20-card set features some of the NBA's most explosive players on die cut cards. The cards are on clear plastic stock with the script in a light-blue foil.

1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #1 Michael Jordan
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #2 Allen Iverson
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #3 Kobe Bryant
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #4 Shaquille O'Neal
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #5 Stephon Marbury
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #6 Marcus Camby
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #7 Anfernee Hardaway/Being Guarded by Michael Jordan
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #8 Kevin Garnett
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #9 Shareef Abdur-Rahim
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #10 Dennis Rodman
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #11 Ray Allen
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #12 Grant Hill
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #13 Kerry Kittles
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #14 Antoine Walker
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #15 Scottie Pippen
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #16 Damon Stoudamire
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #17 Shawn Kemp
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #18 Hakeem Olajuwon
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #19 Jerry Stackhouse
1997-98 Metal Universe Titanium #20 Juwan Howard

They're even more beautiful in person. I've got 5 from the set but I'll probably never actually put the whole set together. The Jordan and Kobe get pretty pricey, and then the Penny isn't far behind them. I was lucky enough to get the Garnett a little under what I expected at like $35 and the Stoudamire cost me just under $20.

I need to get new scans of the Stackhouse and Garnett. Not sure what happened with the color settings on those 2.

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[SteveO21]

90 hoops! My first set. Brings back the memories.

That's the first box I ever got. My grandpa bought me a box. I remember it mainly because my dad wouldn't let me open them because I was grounded at the time and part of me being grounded as a kid was not being allowed to "play" with my cards.

[RookieAddict]

Those are gorgeous! I'm going to try and pick up a penny. Thank you for posting!

[herbc]

What is peculiar about cards from this popular set?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/hlc1949/For%20Internet%20Forums/img031_zpss1t1sm1d.jpg
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[rauchand]

They have their names on the front of the jerseys

[rauchand]

This card instantly came to mind for me! It was a big deal for me and my buddies when this product came out while we were 13 years old. Lol


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm12/buckley10/3D25F924-1654-4B6F-A450-97F52C26C8AD_zpsj9au5wku.jpg (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/buckley10/media/3D25F924-1654-4B6F-A450-97F52C26C8AD_zpsj9au5wku.jpg.html)


For sure this and the baby Jordan were big time cards at my school. Everyone wanted that Googs

[herbc]

They have their names on the front of the jerseys

Incorrect:D

[rauchand]

Incorrect:D

Hmm. I'm not sure then. First thing I noticed. I don't remember what it was about those cards. Definitely intrigued to find out now

[SteveO21]

Incorrect:D

They're wearing their jerseys backwards?

[herbc]

They have their names on the front of the jerseys

Incorrect:D

They're wearing their jerseys backwards?

Correct:)!

This article contains the explanation.

Topps Basketball Cards: Backward Jerseys and 'Bathroom' Shots | Sports Collectors Digest (http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/features/butch-jacobs-shares-details-behind-topps-basketball-cards)

[duron]

I want the MJ Titanium so badly :(

[itsvadertime83]

wish Champion had made that jersey, I collect 90's basketball jersey's and would love one for my collection

Same here! I'm up to 51!

[thenwhatjk]

This card instantly came to mind for me! It was a big deal for me and my buddies when this product came out while we were 13 years old. Lol


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm12/buckley10/3D25F924-1654-4B6F-A450-97F52C26C8AD_zpsj9au5wku.jpg (http://s292.photobucket.com/user/buckley10/media/3D25F924-1654-4B6F-A450-97F52C26C8AD_zpsj9au5wku.jpg.html)

I totally remember this card carrying a premium back in the day. I think there was a Clarence Weatherspoon rookie card that prominently featured jordan.....or maybe it was shaq......something with Clarence Weatherspoon though

[itsvadertime83]

I totally remember this card carrying a premium back in the day. I think there was a Clarence Weatherspoon rookie card that prominently featured jordan.....or maybe it was shaq......something with Clarence Weatherspoon though

92-93 Ultra Weatherspoon

[thenwhatjk]

92-93 Ultra Weatherspoon

Was it jordan or shaq? Good to know i couldn't tell you what I ate yesterday but still remember Clarence weatherspoon's rookie cards

[itsvadertime83]

Was it jordan or shaq? Good to know i couldn't tell you what I ate yesterday but still remember Clarence weatherspoon's rookie cards

It was Shaq! This another card that came to mind from back then. Not nearly as 'big' but memorable for whatever reason...

http://i.imgur.com/qPxsSVp.jpg

[IronMonkey415]

Any card with the Grant's brother guarding each other?

[gatorboymike]

Here's some 90s trivia.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/gatorboymike/Cards/Vintage/Sets/1993/93006.jpg~original

The 1993-94 Fleer product had a set dedicated to Clyde Drexler. The first 12 cards in this set are numbered "x of 12" and were issued in packs like normal inserts. The next three were available as a mail-in offer and are numbered 13, 14 and 15. Most people only know about the first 15 cards, but there is a 16th Glide. Card #16 was available only to people who owned a subscription to Inside Stuff magazine and sent away for it, which almost no one did.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/gatorboymike/Cards/Vintage/Singles/1993/93006-016.jpg

Clyde #16 is so hard to find that it usually sells for about $200. Compare that to the Clyde auto cards from the same set that usually sell for $50-75. I heard a rumor once that there were only eight of the #16's in existence, although I think there are probably more than that, because I've seen five of them sell in the last 12 years, including the one I own.

Oh yes, and I paid one dollar for mine.

[SteveO21]

^^^ I was aware of the set but had no idea about #16 and is scarcity. That's pretty damn cool.

[lietuvalabas]

Same here! I'm up to 51!

You from will county illinois?

[itsvadertime83]

Here's some 90s trivia.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/gatorboymike/Cards/Vintage/Sets/1993/93006.jpg~original

The 1993-94 Fleer product had a set dedicated to Clyde Drexler. The first 12 cards in this set are numbered "x of 12" and were issued in packs like normal inserts. The next three were available as a mail-in offer and are numbered 13, 14 and 15. Most people only know about the first 15 cards, but there is a 16th Glide. Card #16 was available only to people who owned a subscription to Inside Stuff magazine and sent away for it, which almost no one did.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/gatorboymike/Cards/Vintage/Singles/1993/93006-016.jpg

Clyde #16 is so hard to find that it usually sells for about $200. Compare that to the Clyde auto cards from the same set that usually sell for $50-75. I heard a rumor once that there were only eight of the #16's in existence, although I think there are probably more than that, because I've seen five of them sell in the last 12 years, including the one I own.

Oh yes, and I paid one dollar for mine.

Are you kidding me? That card sells for THAT?! I know for a fact that I have this card. I had an Inside Stuff subscription for the better part of my youth, and my dad and I NEVER missed a mail in opportunity. NOW, the thing I have to ask myself...where the hell is mine?! Probably stuffed in a box with the rest of my 90's stuff in storage. You literally just blew my mind with the value of that card.

EDIT - My dream as a kid was to pull one of those Clyde autographs. I'm still dreaming.

[briancecilrn]

That is a stunning card, wow.

That is interesting, never heard that before but it makes sense, MJ is THE MAN

[XARZY]

So is this thread really just a very elaborate way for the op to advice that he super collects Sam vincent?

[SteveO21]

So is this thread really just a very elaborate way for the op to advice that he super collects Sam vincent?

I had to think of some way for me to obtain all 26 of his known basketball cards. :)!