Panini America Takes Last Pre-Release Look at 2015-16 National Treasures Basketball

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Panini America Takes Last Pre-Release Look at 2015-16 National Treasures Basketball (https://blog.paniniamerica.net/2016/05/05/panini-america-takes-last-pre-release-look-at-2015-16-national-treasures-basketball/) May 5th 2016, 19:22, by Tracy Hackler
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This time next week, the basketball collecting world will be one full day into National Treasures madness. Indeed, with the 2015-16 edition of one of the industry’s most coveted releases set to arrive next Wednesday, hobbyists throughout North America and beyond are anxiously counting down the days. In the last week or so, we’ve pulled the curtain back ever so slightly on 2015-16 National Treasures Basketball with must-see looks at some of the product’s key memorabilia (https://blog.paniniamerica.net/2016/04/28/gallery-peeking-the-memorabilia-lineup-for-2015-16-national-treasures-basketball/) and autograph (https://blog.paniniamerica.net/2016/05/01/signature-sunday-panini-america-examines-2015-16-national-treasures-basketball-ink/) cards.
Today, we’re offering one final pre-release look at the product with a drool-worthy selection of just some of the autograph and autograph memorabilia cards planned to enthrall high-end hoops breakers beginning in six short days. Enjoy the eye candy and stay tuned to The Knight’s Lance for continued coverage.

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[paul06901]

Has there been any preview pictures of any of the TOP hits? Logoman, Top RPA paralells, etc.?

[WaiverWire]

porzingis sticker autos?

[byronscott4ever]

Don't like same player having sticker and on-card autos both

[Tarheelsfan2012]

Has there been any preview pictures of any of the TOP hits? Logoman, Top RPA paralells, etc.?

I was expecting a whole week dedicated to NT but there was only 3 previews. I asked Panini on Twitter why there wasn't any KAT or Porzingis RPA's in the previews and they just said Tracy didn't get pictures of them. However, both are live so thats a good thing and aren't redemptions like many of the RPA's from football.

[Ultimatewarrick]

my god those twitter handle inscriptions are so stupid

[drumstyx89]

Dude Panini. Seriously. How many times can you have the notable nicknames insert and STILL NOT HAVE THE PLAYERS SIGN THE CARD PROPERLY?!? I mean come on. In Football and in Basketball every year the players either just sign their name or just their nickname and very rarely do they actually sign both! Get it together!

[rudyjustinfarrell]

Just looking at some of the horizontal RCs shown... grading out is going to be tough. The colored top/bottom borders & edges are going to show EVERY flaw. Yikes.

[SPauthentic84]

Wow.
Amazing.
Panini does it again.
The NBA fans will be satisfied

[tattooelement]

Not a fan of the RPA design.

Best of luck to those opening.

[airball]

awesome

[bewareof94]

What is going on with the design here, it looks like they tried to create booklet card printed on a standard size card with a tiny space for the auto. Just looks horrendous

https://paniniamerica.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/panini-america-2015-16-national-treasures-basketball-part-two1.jpg



Also couldn't help but notice that USA Autos, Greats Autos, Notable Nicknames and Treasures of the Hall are all basically the same design, with the International Treasures close behind

[drobfan8]

I'm not sure Panini will be satisfied until Legend Autos of Bird, Pippen etc are $15.

The tag set looks weaker than previous years. How do you manage that?

I think it's clear Panini are looking to make Flawless/Immac and Eminence as their top 3 products.

Hopefully the Logomen can carry this product for those that love it.

[oshmeehan]

Hoping for an Ersan International Treasures Auto, but not holding my breath

[Tarheelsfan2012]

Hoping for an Ersan International Treasures Auto, but not holding my breath

Heres the double edge sword for Panini. You would love to have one of those while others I'm sure would complain if they hit one of those. Cant make all collectors happy.

[NeilCO]

Heres the double edge sword for Panini. You would love to have one of those while others I'm sure would complain if they hit one of those. Cant make all collectors happy.



Indeed. Same goes for my desire for a Gorgui.

[jifengjeff]

I'm gonna sell my coming case right away after seeing this crap ：） thanks for the preview panini

[rauchand]

Yea, they dropped the ball on probably their best patch auto set (Treasured Tags). It looks like a mini booklet that isn't a booklet. Gross.

[sOuLspin]

High End with sticker Autos.....for 600$ a Box??? We all should group together and burn Panini down!

[longbomberz]

I like that they got Klay to sign. They need to keep more guys at his level signing after their RC/2nd year.

[thor_rider08]

Am I the only one who likes this years nt rpas? I mean they are not the best but I still like them....

[kenji003]

It kind of frustrates me when I see AI on card auto ( signature move) and sticker auto (that tag auto)..why not all on card auto since u can reach those players to sign on card. BTW where is logoman?

[Xiarmadillo]

Mostly bland but clean year in year out.
Not sure if you can call it much of a design...

[CALVINXLIONSX81]

Here's to hoping for a Hilliard RPA, doubt it but crossing my fingers.

[Orangejello727]

I'm not sure Panini will be satisfied until Legend Autos of Bird, Pippen etc are $15.

The tag set looks weaker than previous years. How do you manage that?

I think it's clear Panini are looking to make Flawless/Immac and Eminence as their top 3 products.

Hopefully the Logomen can carry this product for those that love it.

You take out Pippen and Bird and people complain there is no substance in the product. You leave them in and people complain they are producing them like crazy. This is a no win situation. Overtime more autos will be produced of HOF and legends, not any less unless something happens to them.

This industry and based on demand. Demand from people who bust wax. Its going to get to a point where its actually cheaper for Panini to buy back their own autos from the secondary market than it is to get these players to sign the autos. When they catch on, the resurgence of buybacks takes place. Why pay pippin $45/per auto when you can buy his auto for $15 on eBay. We created this culture.. not panini. We created the culture of considering pippin autos and Bird autos as commons because we have a tendency to chase the lottery cards for profit.

You know who wins here.. guys like Kamino. That guy collects all the set for the sake of collection. He win because he can finish these sets and not pay through the nose for birds, magic and Pippen. True collectors rejoice. Investors and flippers worry.

[JMys55]

Dude Panini. Seriously. How many times can you have the notable nicknames insert and STILL NOT HAVE THE PLAYERS SIGN THE CARD PROPERLY?!? I mean come on. In Football and in Basketball every year the players either just sign their name or just their nickname and very rarely do they actually sign both! Get it together!
This frustrates me as well. Grant Hill looked like he did it correctly. I guess you need to graduate from a top tier college to understand how to truly sign those cards.

Sad thing for Grant Hill, his nickname isn't notable.

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[Orangejello727]

This frustrates me as well. Grant Hill looked like he did it correctly. I guess you need to graduate from a top tier college to understand how to truly sign those cards.

Sad thing for Grant Hill, his nickname isn't notable.

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I bet when the cards are sent to the players all they have a single card on top of the box with a sticky that says sign here. So they just literally "sign" there. Since all subsets are included they don't even bother reading the subset title like nicknames. Lets say they get 5 subsets, 4 with sign here for regular autos and 1 that says sign here on nicknames subset. Odds are they just keep signing anywhere they see white space without realizing what they are signing.

Those that do sign the nicknames sub set properly have probably taken the time to look at the actual card and understand the theme. Those that don't is a clear indication they don't care what it is, all they know is it needs a sig. Probably looking at their watches to figure out how long this will take before they can go hang!

[JMys55]

I bet when the cards are sent to the players all they have a single card on top of the box with a sticky that says sign here. So they just literally "sign" there. Since all subsets are included they don't even bother reading the subset title like nicknames. Lets say they get 5 subsets, 4 with sign here for regular autos and 1 that says sign here on nicknames subset. Odds are they just keep signing anywhere they see white space without realizing what they are signing.

Those that do sign the nicknames sub set properly have probably taken the time to look at the actual card and understand the theme. Those that don't is a clear indication they don't care what it is, all they know is it needs a sig. Probably looking at their watches to figure out how long this will take before they can go hang!
They should attach a sticker auto to D'Angelo Russells nickname. That will fix it!

More of a problem than these athletes being dumb is how dumb paninis Quality Control is. If a player screws the card up, they need to pull it from the set. Also not sure how you can make "Flawless" and "Immaculate" cards that come encased, but riddled with surface dents and horrendous centering. Oh the irony!

I never saw Fleer, UD, or Topps consistently struggle with centering. That's the easiest feature to get right and the printing technology is probably better!

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[the27guy]

I bet when the cards are sent to the players all they have a single card on top of the box with a sticky that says sign here. So they just literally "sign" there. Since all subsets are included they don't even bother reading the subset title like nicknames. Lets say they get 5 subsets, 4 with sign here for regular autos and 1 that says sign here on nicknames subset. Odds are they just keep signing anywhere they see white space without realizing what they are signing.

Those that do sign the nicknames sub set properly have probably taken the time to look at the actual card and understand the theme. Those that don't is a clear indication they don't care what it is, all they know is it needs a sig. Probably looking at their watches to figure out how long this will take before they can go hang!

I had a box of stuff sent to me to get James white to sign by UD. There were very specific instructions. The key was getting him to follow them. Some of these guys don't really care.

[drobfan8]

You take out Pippen and Bird and people complain there is no substance in the product. You leave them in and people complain they are producing them like crazy. This is a no win situation. Overtime more autos will be produced of HOF and legends, not any less unless something happens to them.

This industry and based on demand. Demand from people who bust wax. Its going to get to a point where its actually cheaper for Panini to buy back their own autos from the secondary market than it is to get these players to sign the autos. When they catch on, the resurgence of buybacks takes place. Why pay pippin $45/per auto when you can buy his auto for $15 on eBay. We created this culture.. not panini. We created the culture of considering pippin autos and Bird autos as commons because we have a tendency to chase the lottery cards for profit.

You know who wins here.. guys like Kamino. That guy collects all the set for the sake of collection. He win because he can finish these sets and not pay through the nose for birds, magic and Pippen. True collectors rejoice. Investors and flippers worry.

Meh, I couldn't really care less either way. I was just making an observation.

They could make some better designed chase cards, there's just far too many plain Auto sets out there.

[rauchand]

I bet when the cards are sent to the players all they have a single card on top of the box with a sticky that says sign here. So they just literally "sign" there. Since all subsets are included they don't even bother reading the subset title like nicknames. Lets say they get 5 subsets, 4 with sign here for regular autos and 1 that says sign here on nicknames subset. Odds are they just keep signing anywhere they see white space without realizing what they are signing.

Those that do sign the nicknames sub set properly have probably taken the time to look at the actual card and understand the theme. Those that don't is a clear indication they don't care what it is, all they know is it needs a sig. Probably looking at their watches to figure out how long this will take before they can go hang!

I don't blame the players. There's just too many damn cards to sign. At a certain point, I'm sure they just want to be done with the signing. I'd be the same way. I mean, how many cards has G Hill signed over the last 3-4 years? Gotta be at least 15,000 no? Probably more.

They need to build on Revolution. Limit the autos. Replace them with cool inserts. I'd chase a nice, rare insert from NT. Use some color for once. I'm sure the players would take their time and read directions if they didn't have to sign 1,000 cards per product.

[hychang5]

I had a box of stuff sent to me to get James white to sign by UD. There were very specific instructions. The key was getting him to follow them. Some of these guys don't really care.

I'd lean towards MOST of these guys don't care, haha.

[JMys55]

A really sweet card NT should come out with is.... Overpaid Autos. Have wash up players sign their contact amount. For example....

Joe Johnson
$24,894,863

I bet Joe wouldn't forget to sign that. Lol.

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[XARZY]

my god those twitter handle inscriptions are so stupid

Only on the /10 parallel

[duron]

my god those twitter handle inscriptions are so stupid

lol. also...

...TIL Grant Hill was called "G-Money"

was he really :confused:

[dasiegel]

Am I the only one who likes this years nt rpas? I mean they are not the best but I still like them....

Dude I hope all these Panini haters do not buy because this stuff looks great and I would like to pick up as much as I can.

I mean man, if you don't like this, stop buying basketball cards because really only Immaculate or Flawless can ever have a shot at being better. Select and Hoops have bee the best two products this year, everything else has been sad. It's ok to get excited about a nice looking Panini product guys, Topps ain;t walkin' through that door. year:doh:

[thor_rider08]

Dude I hope all these Panini haters do not buy because this stuff looks great and I would like to pick up as much as I can.

I mean man, if you don't like this, stop buying basketball cards because really only Immaculate or Flawless can ever have a shot at being better. Select and Hoops have bee the best two products this year, everything else has been sad. It's ok to get excited about a nice looking Panini product guys, Topps ain;t walkin' through that door. year:doh:

NT is still my favorite set.
I think NT and Immaculate have their pros and cons but I think they are better then flawless esp at the price point... I just found out about this eminence product and I like it but I don't see the value although I will be picking a few singles up as they do have some fantastic looking cards.

I love the nt rpas and it is due to a bit of nostalgia...
Edit: I just reviewed the pics again and am a bit let down the only difference in the /99 and /5 is the color of the foil..
I see the /25 is the colossal series so I assume we are not counting that as a true rookie set??
EDIT # 2 I see they are doing /99 /49 /25 /10 /5 1/1 did I miss any? I assume since they are doing 4 boxes per case is the reason they did this. They added another 59 true rpas to the set or is there no /25 and its just the colossal /25.. meh ok cant be upset its better then /199 but the colossal rpas look way better... either way I am excited.

I'm also happy to get a chance at some logoman/logoman autos again!
This and immaculate are the few products I enjoy gbing in even with the alex len fiasco.

Immaculate has the acetate rc jsy # set and I love that set it is one of the best sets around imo but I still prefer the logoman from NT.

[dasiegel]

NT is still my favorite set.
I think NT and Immaculate have their pros and cons but I think they are better then flawless esp at the price point... I just found out about this eminence product and I like it but I don't see the value although I will be picking a few singles up as they do have some fantastic looking cards.

I love the nt rpas and it is due to a bit of nostalgia...
Edit: I just reviewed the pics again and am a bit let down the only difference in the /99 and /5 is the color of the foil..
I see the /25 is the colossal series so I assume we are not counting that as a true rookie set??
I'm also happy to get a chance at some logoman/logoman autos again!
This and immaculate are the few products I enjoy gbing in even with the alex len fiasco.

Immaculate has the acetate rc jsy # set and I love that set it is one of the best sets around imo but I still prefer the logoman from NT.

To me... bang for your bucks Immac is the best. However due to the value of the NT RPA and the chance of unreal tag, logos etc I think Immac and NT are by far top two. Flawless is nice but better for vets and they haven;t established a true RPA. I also think Eminence was gimmicky... silver, gold, who cares. Flawless, diamonds? Who cares. I'd rather have an event worn sick patch than a diamond that has nothing to do with basketball.

It just amazes me how people hate on even the best stuff that comes out each year. The only reason I don't totally blame people is because the price point demands no stickers if they are gonna jack it up that high, higher than any other year.

[thor_rider08]

To me... bang for your bucks Immac is the best. However due to the value of the NT RPA and the chance of unreal tag, logos etc I think Immac and NT are by far top two. Flawless is nice but better for vets and they haven;t established a true RPA. I also think Eminence was gimmicky... silver, gold, who cares. Flawless, diamonds? Who cares. I'd rather have an event worn sick patch than a diamond that has nothing to do with basketball.

It just amazes me how people hate on even the best stuff that comes out each year. The only reason I don't totally blame people is because the price point demands no stickers if they are gonna jack it up that high, higher than any other year.

I hate the sticker autos as much as the next guy I really do but they are not changing jack #@#@#@#@... even though we keep complaining because we only complain with words not $$$.

I must have missed something during my time away so why is there so few gbs this year? Normally there are tons of gbs and this year I see very few? Did the release date get pushed back or are people still pissed about the alex len fiasco??

[dasiegel]

I hate the sticker autos as much as the next guy I really do but they are not changing jack #@#@#@#@... even though we keep complaining because we only complain with words not $$$.

I must have missed something during my time away so why is there so few gbs this year? Normally there are tons of gbs and this year I see very few? Did the release date get pushed back or are people still pissed about the alex len fiasco??

I guess what I'm saying to you is you have to ignore most of the complaints because many people are just complaining to complain. I mean come on, this stuff looks pretty good. It has never been a non sticker product even when it was like $350-400 a box.

[UltimateDeron]

Has a KAT National Treasures auto been previewed yet? Watch him be a redemption..

[thepinoymamba]

So many #bigtimemojo$$$ from Panini America... yeah!

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[Kingchrispaul]

Has a KAT National Treasures auto been previewed yet? Watch him be a redemption..

Only the Moc Up - so no Towns or Porzingis RPA Previews either redemption's or one clr patches lol

[Bigalloyd13]

If you like NT year after year and love opening it for your pc, go for it. If that's what you like isn't that what collecting is all about. Go for it. If your breaking to invest or flip, you need to find something else to buy. This is just bad bad bad bad. NT is just headed down the s******.

This is why I don't break anymore. Panini is pretty much saying with this hey our products suck just buy singles and don't break them...

[UltimateDeron]

Only the Moc Up - so no Towns or Porzingis RPA Previews either redemption's or one clr patches lol

This right here is very odd. I mean why not show them if they're beautiful cards that collectors would want? Wouldn't you want to do that so people actually buy the product? I swear I don't understand Panini!

[Tarheelsfan2012]

Has a KAT National Treasures auto been previewed yet? Watch him be a redemption..

I was told him and Porzingis are both live.

[tristan20]

Has a KAT National Treasures auto been previewed yet? Watch him be a redemption..

His hand was tired from signing all the other products very few people buy.

:doh:

[Jpayne7787]

I would hate it if my box had any of those RPA shows as a $600+ box hit lol... Too many second rounders I've never heard of before, I wish they would just stick with the top 15~ RCs and not make so many $20 RPAs of nobodies.

[UltimateDeron]

I would hate it if my box had any of those RPA shows as a $600+ box hit lol... Too many second rounders I've never heard of before, I wish they would just stick with the top 15~ RCs and not make so many $20 RPAs of nobodies.

This is just a weak class..well, except for Towns, Booker, Porzingis, and Russell.

Only 2 of the guys they pictured were 2nd round picks.

[Durantula]

The RPAs look decent!

[No1CavsFan]

This is just a weak class..well, except for Towns, Booker, Porzingis, and Russell.

Only 2 of the guys they pictured were 2nd round picks.

My 2015 Draft Class Easy Guide

Pick 1 - Great
Pick 2 - OK
Pick 3 - Street Fighter
Pick 4 - God
Pick 5 - OK
Pick 6 - My Man
Pick 7 - Nope
Pick 8 - Still Guarding LeBron
Pick 9 - Nope
Pick 10 - OK
Pick 11 - BEAST
Pick 12 - Nope
Pick 13 - BEAST
Pick 14 - OK

Yep, they suck.

The only second rounders/undrafted players I'd be OK to get an RPA of are Jonathon Simmons, Boban, Tavares & Nikola Jokic. Other than that, the draft class is :doh: just like Panini's Twotter handle inscriptions design.

[Ottomatic]

Lord knows how people can say this draft class is bad after one year. Most every rookie is bad it's first season, there's no way to know who's going to be good.

Not to mention this draft at least already has two players that look really really good in Porzingis, and Towns.

But I guess people rip to flip instantly which I do understand. I'll sit back and pick up singles of the "scrubs".

[Jin]

What.. people who say this draft class sucked clearly do not remember years past.. This class is probably the strongest we've had since since AD

[JCC6603]

Josh Richardson looks pretty good for a 2nd rounder too

[miamitrev2]

Josh Richardson looks pretty good for a 2nd rounder too

I agree, any of the others seeing playoff minutes?:doh:

[coltsnsox07]

Lord knows how people can say this draft class is bad after one year. Most every rookie is bad it's first season, there's no way to know who's going to be good.

Not to mention this draft at least already has two players that look really really good in Porzingis, and Towns.

But I guess people rip to flip instantly which I do understand. I'll sit back and pick up singles of the "scrubs".

A guy at my LCS traded a Curry RPA PLUS a bunch of money for a Blake Griffin...

[UltimateDeron]

Lord knows how people can say this draft class is bad after one year. Most every rookie is bad it's first season, there's no way to know who's going to be good.


Obviously, but the majority of people buy to sell right away.

[UltimateDeron]

I agree, any of the others seeing playoff minutes?:doh:

I like Richardson, but lets be honest.. most good rookies don't see the playoffs in their first season because they're on a team that was in the lottery the previous season and thus are in the rebuilding stage.

[drobfan8]

I think the draft class is solid, with plenty of decent guys to hit.

I would be more worried that Eminence will have more Rookies than the 1 or 2 they had previous release. It may knock NT off the pedestal as no.1 RPA.

[WarrenJ]

"G-Mercy"... wow I just learned new thing today :)

[miamitrev2]

I like Richardson, but lets be honest.. most good rookies don't see the playoffs in their first season because they're on a team that was in the lottery the previous season and thus are in the rebuilding stage.

K fair enough, how many Second Rounders got regular minutes during the regular season?

[yiguiri2002]

In what world this is a weak class? Do you guys mean hobby-wise?

[tmar214]

In what world this is a weak class? Do you guys mean hobby-wise?

It's tough when you look through the display shots and they have 17 RPA pictured and maybe 2 players sell for more than 150$.


So many cards look really nice here but at some point it's near impossible for breakers to get value when the market is so flooded with high end. I wish I could have gotten some preorders in at the original 1600 price. I don't know if it's the distributors or panini but it's unfortunate that prices always climb if their is any positive sentiment about a new product.

[UltimateDeron]

K fair enough, how many Second Rounders got regular minutes during the regular season?

Josh Richardson and Norman Powell. Pat Connaughton, Montrezl Harrell, and Richaun Holmes were 2nd rounders that got some minutes too.

[hairyangryfella]

So many #bigtimemojo$$$ from Panini America... yeah!

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...that are still worth significantly less than the price of a box...

Everybody's assuming there are logomans in this. Has anybody seen/heard that they definitely are..?

[Lee42]

...that are still worth significantly less than the price of a box...

Everybody's assuming there are logomans in this. Has anybody seen/heard that they definitely are..?

Yes there was a Rodman preview one

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t169/stevenash13mvp/LOGO.jpg (http://s160.photobucket.com/user/stevenash13mvp/media/LOGO.jpg.html)

[Bruin7]

Colossal prime set looks really nice this year but I prefer RPAs to be vertical.

[bighunt172]

I think overall this looks awful, some things are nice, but its the same thing over and over

[tristan20]

wow the logomen look sweet

[the27guy]

wow the logomen look sweet

Yep. But w rodmans typical streaky garbage auto.

[dany85]

Has anyone seen any Curry autos in previews?

[zebrastar]

I'm stunned people are saying this is a weak draft class... Man I just don't know what to say. You have at LEAST two all stars but probably 3-4, and a slew of others who have ALREADY helped out their teams as rookies.

[Billyhoyle]

Apparently coming out of China - Shared here - https://www.facebook.com/cherrycollectables/?fref=ts

https://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xlf1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13151616_10154028821410516_5316691907153021874_n.jpg?oh=8ec826ca4c295ac3a21602f2074c321c&oe=579C8F34&__gda__=1474189736_49e7c5212f330250d53d0bff4886b6d1

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[buckunteer]

checklist up anywhere? Hoping there aren't any Mitch Richmonds I have to chase 'cause I'm poor :P

[byronscott4ever]

checklist up anywhere? Hoping there aren't any Mitch Richmonds I have to chase 'cause I'm poor :P

Not on Panini site as of a while ago. Even if there are no Richmonds, he's got to have quite a few plates right?

[buckunteer]

Not on Panini site as of a while ago. Even if there are no Richmonds, he's got to have quite a few plates right?

probably, but there are 2 richmond collectors with deeper pockets than me who always snatch them up. I bid one up once for kicks and giggles and stopped at like $68 and it went for $71. Crazy.