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oplum29 11-08-2021 05:25 PM

[QUOTE=Siberian13;17777927]Kupp, no. Henry, you high. Rodgers and Murray missing a game already might hurt in the end.[/QUOTE]

why not Kupp?

he leads the entire NFL in yards, touchdowns, and catches after 9 games and just tied Jerry Rice for having over 1000 yards receiving and 10 TDs through 9 games, first player since 1990 to do that.

he's on pace right now with 8 games to go, to finish with 150 catches, 2000 yards, and 18 touchdowns. how is that not MVP type numbers?

netmasters 11-08-2021 06:08 PM

[QUOTE=BostonNut;17777871]The rest of the NFL should be ashamed if they let a 44 year old statue win MVP...:doh:[/QUOTE]

Brady seems to be really trying for it by stat padding especially TDs. He got a gift when Jameis got hurt so they will win the division and he will bring it home.

deemsterz33 11-08-2021 06:23 PM

[QUOTE=oplum29;17778142]why not Kupp?

he leads the entire NFL in yards, touchdowns, and catches after 9 games and just tied Jerry Rice for having over 1000 yards receiving and 10 TDs through 9 games, first player since 1990 to do that.

he's on pace right now with 8 games to go, to finish with 150 catches, 2000 yards, and 18 touchdowns. how is that not MVP type numbers?[/QUOTE]

I would love to see a non-QB win it, however history is strongly stacked against Kupp. Like zero WRs have ever won MVP stacked against. Not even Rice.

Hellcat 11-08-2021 06:25 PM

[QUOTE=netmasters;17778216]Brady seems to be really trying for it by stat padding especially TDs. He got a gift when Jameis got hurt so they will win the division and he will bring it home.[/QUOTE]
Oh boy you’re funny. Yeah the mighty Jameis was striking fear in the Bucs! As long as the GOAT stays healthy he should win it.

Siberian13 11-08-2021 06:31 PM

[QUOTE=netmasters;17778216]Brady seems to be really trying for it by stat padding especially TDs. He got a gift when Jameis got hurt so they will win the division and he will bring it home.[/QUOTE]

Yeah agreed with stat padding part

2010GBPackers 11-09-2021 08:46 AM

I'm no Brady fan, but he's clearly the front-runner here. In fact, I should have distanced him further up from Murray than I did. I'm still racking my brain to figure out how J. Allen is an odds-on favorite to win.

whoshotjr 11-09-2021 12:58 PM

[QUOTE=deemsterz33;17778256]I would love to see a non-QB win it, however history is strongly stacked against Kupp. Like zero WRs have ever won MVP stacked against. Not even Rice.[/QUOTE]Rice should have won in 87, 22 TD in a 12 game strike season. However, Montana took a chunk of Rice's votes, letting Elway win with pretty mediocre stats.

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Rabs 11-14-2021 06:35 PM

Man seems like no one really wants it this year. So much bad play even from great QBs.

rman112 11-14-2021 06:41 PM

Love for making the Packers offense look competent.

Rabs 11-14-2021 06:46 PM

[QUOTE=rman112;17789782]Love for making the Packers offense look competent.[/QUOTE]

Even Henry not looking as valuable considering the Titans are 2-0 without him. Not that he was going to win anyway.

rman112 11-14-2021 06:48 PM

[QUOTE=Rabs;17789793]Even Henry not looking as valuable considering the Titans are 2-0 without him. Not that he was going to win anyway.[/QUOTE]

The D has really gotten it going. It's been a total team effort this year.

Rabs 11-14-2021 06:55 PM

[QUOTE=rman112;17789797]The D has really gotten it going. It's been a total team effort this year.[/QUOTE]

Tanny is more than capable. D has stepped up for sure.

Siberian13 11-14-2021 06:58 PM

Dak and Allen the only ones that helped themselves this week.

mike1498 11-14-2021 07:14 PM

[QUOTE=Siberian13;17789829]Dak and Allen the only ones that helped themselves this week.[/QUOTE]

I think in an odd way this helped Kyler out too. It shows three things that we probably didn’t think last week

1) The 49ers REALLY suck
2) The cardinals do need Kyler to win
3) The defense won’t win games with Colt game managing. We actually do need to put points up because our defense will break

Rabs 11-14-2021 07:17 PM

[QUOTE=Siberian13;17789829]Dak and Allen the only ones that helped themselves this week.[/QUOTE]

Funny how after last week both took huge steps backwards.

Onepocketj 11-14-2021 07:29 PM

[QUOTE=Rabs;17789880]Funny how after last week both took huge steps backwards.[/QUOTE]

No one distancing themselves right now. Brady has lost his last two games and he'll probably still be in the lead. Allen and Dak will be close though.

Siberian13 11-14-2021 07:33 PM

[QUOTE=mike1498;17789869]I think in an odd way this helped Kyler out too. It shows three things that we probably didn’t think last week

1) The 49ers REALLY suck
2) The cardinals do need Kyler to win
3) The defense won’t win games with Colt game managing. We actually do need to put points up because our defense will break[/QUOTE]

Missing two games worth of stats will only hurt at the end. Plus they were able to win without Kyler. Lowers his chances

mike1498 11-14-2021 07:45 PM

[QUOTE=Siberian13;17789914]Missing two games worth of stats will only hurt at the end. Plus they were able to win without Kyler. Lowers his chances[/QUOTE]

Again, I think winning without him was kind of negated by today. I think it more says how bad the 49ers are than how good the cardinals are without Kyler. I agree with the stats statement though.

lambeauleap87 11-14-2021 07:46 PM

[QUOTE=mike1498;17789935]Again, I think winning without him was kind of negated by today. I think it more says how bad the 49ers are than how good the cardinals are without Kyler. I agree with the stats statement though.[/QUOTE]

The problem is that it's not truly the most [I]valuable[/I] player that wins the award - it's the QB with the best stats.

Onepocketj 11-14-2021 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=lambeauleap87;17789939]The problem is that it's not truly the most [I]valuable[/I] player that wins the award - it's the QB with the best stats.[/QUOTE]

Should be Brady then because he has the easiest remaining schedule.

2010GBPackers 11-14-2021 08:13 PM

Everything's getting compressed now. My list will be out tomorrow, but expect to see a bunch at the top.

Onepocketj 11-14-2021 10:48 PM

Someone might be sneaking back into the outskirts of the conversation

2010GBPackers 11-14-2021 10:59 PM

[QUOTE=Onepocketj;17790383]Someone might be sneaking back into the outskirts of the conversation[/QUOTE]

You're right, the MVP has gone to the league leader in INT's....

Oh, no. It actually hasn't.

Let's give it more than one good game against a franchise in disarray.

BTW, Mahomes had a great game. It's just too soon.

Onepocketj 11-14-2021 11:02 PM

[QUOTE=2010GBPackers;17790408]You're right, the MVP has gone to the league leader in INT's....

Oh, no. It actually hasn't.

Let's give it more than one good game against a franchise in disarray.

BTW, Mahomes had a great game. It's just too soon.[/QUOTE]

Good thing he's not the league leader in int's. :)!

2010GBPackers 11-14-2021 11:03 PM

[QUOTE=Onepocketj;17790411]Good thing he's not the league leader in int's. :)![/QUOTE]

Ooooo. What is he, second?

Eagle badge for him.


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