[QUOTE=Trueblue;17869258]Name me that player in the 2021 class.[/QUOTE]

Ian Anderson :)!

[QUOTE=Luisrobertholi;17869262]Ian Anderson :)![/QUOTE]Exactly

With Topps not making cards in 2023 do they not have an incentive to put every rookie possible in the 2022 regular and update sets?

[QUOTE=IlliniBear;17869380]With Topps not making cards in 2023 do they not have an incentive to put every rookie possible in the 2022 regular and update sets?[/QUOTE]

This was my thought as well.

2022 Topps Chrome Baseball Pre Sale.. thoughts?
 

Agree I think $250 is fairly safe. I’d assume it would take a pretty bad 1st couple months for the young man and zero surprise inclusions these to be less than $180 at release and $400 isn’t out of the question. Because these release in June(?)it will be directly related to performance.
If Wander is hitting .375 w 15+ HRs at the break it could be a $500+box
If he’s hitting .250 w 6 hrs it could be $180.
Where I don’t agree is the whole “if there’s a cheaper grading option” factor. It will be all about the chase for parallels and autos. I don’t see how the promise of moar slabs on the market does anything but hurt demand for ANY base singles in this era(2020 and beyond PRs)
$220-$350 at release seems to me a likely range.

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I suspect OP has already made his purchase commitments and just wants some reassurance he didn't overpay - no reason to pump a product if you are still thinking about buying, it'll just drive the buy in price upwards.

Hey, just enjoy the boxes if you like the product, no matter what price they come out at.

This aint 2020 anymore, the card market as a whole is in a pull back and more product is being pumped out than since the 90s. As the Gary V crowd leaves, we are back to just the collector base which hasnt grown all that much since 2019.

2022 > 2021

[QUOTE=IlliniBear;17869380]With Topps not making cards in 2023 do they not have an incentive to put every rookie possible in the 2022 regular and update sets?[/QUOTE]

As long as it fits the union guidelines and printing schedules, there is no reason to hold back.

[QUOTE=LVDan;17869445]Agree I think $250 is fairly safe. I’d assume it would take a pretty bad 1st couple months for the young man and zero surprise inclusions these to be less than $180 at release and $400 isn’t out of the question. Because these release in June(?)it will be directly related to performance.
If Wander is hitting .375 w 15+ HRs at the break it could be a $500+box
If he’s hitting .250 w 6 hrs it could be $180.
Where I don’t agree is the whole “if there’s a cheaper grading option” factor. It will be all about the chase for parallels and autos. I don’t see how the promise of moar slabs on the market does anything but hurt demand for ANY base singles in this era(2020 and beyond PRs)
$220-$350 at release seems to me a likely range.

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These numbers seem completely reasonable to me and the analysis on parallels and grading seems solid too.

I hope that Topps numbers his chrome RC to 999 and makes refractors numbered to 499, and only has gold refractors numbered to 50 like Stephanie

[QUOTE=imbluestreak23;17869482]I hope that Topps numbers his chrome RC to 999 and makes refractors numbered to 499, and only has gold refractors numbered to 50 like Stephanie[/QUOTE]

you know better lol

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;17869488]you know better lol[/QUOTE]

All for $2.99 a pack lol!

In all seriousness, a "parallel" insert set with a 2009/10 design paying homage to the NBA exodus year for baseball with the same numbering would be amazing!

[QUOTE=IlliniBear;17869380]With Topps not making cards in 2023 do they not have an incentive to put every rookie possible in the 2022 regular and update sets?[/QUOTE]

Topps has stated that they plan on making baseball cards until 2025, I bet they will sign individual player contracts. Or do a whole lot of bowman type stuff.

[QUOTE=anusinha;17869507]Topps has stated that they plan on making baseball cards until 2025, I bet they will sign individual player contracts. Or do a whole lot of bowman type stuff.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. Good to know that's an option.

This is what Topps Chrome Base cards will look like to people in 25 years.

The 1991 Fleer were pretty sweet.

[url]https://youtu.be/JHizy88OqJY[/url]

[QUOTE=hermanotarjeta;17869449]I suspect OP has already made his purchase commitments and just wants some reassurance he didn't overpay - no reason to pump a product if you are still thinking about buying, it'll just drive the buy in price upwards.

Hey, just enjoy the boxes if you like the product, no matter what price they come out at.[/QUOTE]

Havent bought any yet, its still too early

I would like to buy them Late Jan early Feb as I dont think they would get higher by that time. however im 100% sure they arent getting any lower, but im investing in more of the singles I collect.

You can see my IG: ATSCARDS :cool: those are the types of cards im after

and im def not pumping the product lol. still 8 months for it to be released. just want to hear thoughts as well as want others to see my point of view and maybe cash in as well :)

[QUOTE=LVDan;17869445]Agree I think $250 is fairly safe. I’d assume it would take a pretty bad 1st couple months for the young man and zero surprise inclusions these to be less than $180 at release and $400 isn’t out of the question. Because these release in June(?)it will be directly related to performance.
If Wander is hitting .375 w 15+ HRs at the break it could be a $500+box
If he’s hitting .250 w 6 hrs it could be $180.
Where I don’t agree is the whole “if there’s a cheaper grading option” factor. It will be all about the chase for parallels and autos. I don’t see how the promise of moar slabs on the market does anything but hurt demand for ANY base singles in this era(2020 and beyond PRs)
$220-$350 at release seems to me a likely range.

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This is sort of what im intersted in seeing in this thread.
Ones thought process as to what the box prices could be at and why

$220-$350 seems fair as well. and not sure if you factored in the potential of Witt-Jrod etc..

either way at $250 if you see the same odds of them going to $220 or $350 then its a 100% buy in
a 50-50 chance of lossing $30 or making $100 per box

when will we learn.

Topps Chrome is a HORRIBLE rip. Has been for years.... will be for the next couple years.

Yes it might have 5-6 really stud players...but those guys will not be in any of the boxes. 99% of the boxes will be filled with the other 75 autographs... the RPs, infielders who are hitting .229 and many others that no one ever wants. And now its $250... or $400 closer to release.... let's rip 3 cases!!! I'm in!!!

A lot of people are going to be unhappy when they open these and get half the amount of rookie autos….

[QUOTE=Ferg1945;17869767]when will we learn.

Topps Chrome is a HORRIBLE rip. Has been for years.... will be for the next couple years.

Yes it might have 5-6 really stud players...but those guys will not be in any of the boxes. 99% of the boxes will be filled with the other 75 autographs... the RPs, infielders who are hitting .229 and many others that no one ever wants. And now its $250... or $400 closer to release.... let's rip 3 cases!!! I'm in!!![/QUOTE]

As said before, even worse in 2022 as they added “veteran variations” with print runs in line with the base rookie autos. Enjoy your crappy non rookie autos

[QUOTE=Ferg1945;17869767]when will we learn.

Topps Chrome is a HORRIBLE rip. Has been for years.... will be for the next couple years.

Yes it might have 5-6 really stud players...but those guys will not be in any of the boxes. 99% of the boxes will be filled with the other 75 autographs... the RPs, infielders who are hitting .229 and many others that no one ever wants. And now its $250... or $400 closer to release.... let's rip 3 cases!!! I'm in!!![/QUOTE]

In terms of players, 99% of them came through as BC prospects. The advantage with TC is one doesn’t have to worry about the ton of prospect busts that went nowhere. This makes BC the real dog collecting-wise.

[QUOTE=LVDan;17869445]Agree I think $250 is fairly safe. I’d assume it would take a pretty bad 1st couple months for the young man and zero surprise inclusions these to be less than $180 at release and $400 isn’t out of the question. Because these release in June(?)it will be directly related to performance.
If Wander is hitting .375 w 15+ HRs at the break it could be a $500+box
If he’s hitting .250 w 6 hrs it could be $180.
Where I don’t agree is the whole “if there’s a cheaper grading option” factor. It will be all about the chase for parallels and autos. I[B] don’t see how the promise of moar slabs on the market does anything but hurt demand for ANY base singles in this era(2020 and beyond PRs)[/B]
$220-$350 at release seems to me a likely range.

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I don't agree with this and agree with the OP. I saw a noticeable drop in raw prices when PSA shut down and I expect a bump when they reopen, even if not quite as big.

It's not March 2021 anymore, but Wander isn't any RC in 2021 (or 2020 for that matter). His base RC are getting graded.

He's going to have 15+ hrs at the break meanwhile he was on pace for 15 hrs for the whole year.

He never accomplished that pace in the minors.

No wonder people keep dreaming with all these prospects. So delusional.

Even if they become good like mookie Betts. Win and mvp and play for Red Sox no one cares anymore beside a small window.

Someone is going to care about some Tampa Bay player who's 20 hrs and bats .285 in 5 years....

Baseball never runs out of suckers.

With a million blasters printed base will tank fast.

No one opens wax anymore except breakers and wax investors are everywhere. No point in comparing it to 2018-19 chrome. It will be like 2020.

Franco won't put up the numbers Bichette did last year and no one cares about Bichette anymore.

Investors have left and its a fickle hobby with very short attention spans.