NBA Finals Poll: Raptors vs. Warriors
 

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Raptors or Warriors?

Warriors in 5

Is it too late to add options?


I can't figure out how to add options. (I.e: Raptors in 6, etc...)

I would love to see Toronto win but the lure of seeing Drake cry on the floor is too great to pass up

No KD (which I think is going to happen, I think his injury is more serious than people think) - Raps in 6

Series changes obviously if KD is back a healthy

Expected: Dubs in 5
Possibility: Dubs in 6
Unlikely: a game 7
What would make for great ratings and excitement: Dubs in 7 by 1 point in a low scoring game

Let's go Dubs!

Yawn......I mean do we really need a poll on this? Meaning, we all know the outcome.

[QUOTE=Bobbyplaza133;14710818]Yawn......I mean do we really need a poll on this? Meaning, we all know the outcome.[/QUOTE]

Kind of like everyone knew the outcome of the bucks/raps series lol

[QUOTE=Bobbyplaza133;14710818]Yawn......I mean do we really need a poll on this? Meaning, we all know the outcome.[/QUOTE]





Says the guy who will probably be watching every second.



Yes we do because more people are picking the Raptors than expected.

I'll say Warriors in 6

The Raptors have really stepped up, but this is the Warriors to lose KD or no KD.


The Warriors can afford to have a player or two have a bad game and still win. The Raptors cannot afford that luxury.

33% of you need to go to drug rehab ASAP

[QUOTE=pejc300;14711054]33% of you need to go to drug rehab ASAP[/QUOTE]

Just people picking with their hearts instead of their brains

[QUOTE=codered;14710725]No KD (which I think is going to happen, I think his injury is more serious than people think) - Raps in 6

Series changes obviously if KD is back a healthy[/QUOTE]

At what point in these playoffs, did the Warriors show they needed KD?

In their last 4 games, Raptors outscored the Bucks by 9 PPG
In their last 4 games, Warriors outscored the Blazers by 9.5 PPG

I think it's crazier to think the Warriors sweep or win in 5 than to think the Raptors can win (although either has a chance of happening). Without KD, this series is gonna be close.

With or without KD, it’s the Warriors that’s going to be on top .GSW are a different animal than the inexperienced Bucks ..Kawhi would have put on a Jordan NBA Finals like performance thru out the series and I don’t think he has it in him and role players would have to play at their highest possible level and be mistake free .

Taking the Warriors, but some of you must not be paying attention to just how good Toronto is. It’s easy to look at the teams on paper and their histories and draw a quick conclusion. Toronto just went four in a row against the team with the best record in the NBA and made Giannis look mortal in the process. This team defends incredibly well and has the best player in the series. Kawhi is better than all of them. They also have a significant size advantage, which GSW hasn’t had to deal with in the West. I’m excited and looking forward to a great series.

I still dont see anyone can stop a healthy Kawhi in the Warriors, so if Kawhi plays out well and Kyle, Siakam, and Vanvleet have little pressure to play their game. Once Raptors can take game one, all the pressure is on the Warriors then. It should be a tight series not as the press hypes at a 4 or 5 games series.

[QUOTE=codered;14710725]No KD (which I think is going to happen, I think his injury is more serious than people think) - Raps in 6

Series changes obviously if KD is back a healthy[/QUOTE]

No KD, warriors in 5. Raptors in 7 if KD comes back.

[QUOTE=bulljh;14711125]At what point in these playoffs, did the Warriors show they needed KD?[/QUOTE]

Because they beat Houston one game and swept a blazers team without their best post player (Nurkic is infinity better than Kanter who is terrible on D) and their best player separated his ribs game two, that makes you think they don’t need KD? Short sighted much?

Without KD this team is much worse than their 14-15 counterpart that struggled to win in 6 against a lebron lead cavs team that didn’t have Love or Kyrie. The raptors are much better than the cavs team that didn’t have Love/Kyrie in the finals. When lebron had Kyrie and Love the KDless warriors couldn’t defend him so they had to go out a get KD (writing that made me throw up a little as I’m not a lebron fan boy at all lol) to defend and beat lebron. Kawhi is in that same ballpark. Without KD they don’t have anyone that can defend Kawhi one on one (no disrespect to klay and your best kawhi defender is no longer on your team, cheap shot Zaza). Guys like iggy, Livingston and Bogut are much older, no barnes and the bench of iggy, barbosa, lee and ezeli is much better than the bench you have now.

Screw it....I picked Warriors but I'm rooting for the Raptors after reading about this dude, Nav Bhatia.

[url]https://globalnews.ca/news/5324784/toronto-raptors-superfan-nav-bhatia/[/url]

[QUOTE=jlzinck;14711255]Screw it....I picked Warriors but I'm rooting for the Raptors after reading about this dude, Nav Bhatia.

[url]https://globalnews.ca/news/5324784/toronto-raptors-superfan-nav-bhatia/[/url][/QUOTE]

Superfan Nav!!!! He’s an incredible dude! He’s actually our official superfan lol not drake (he’s our global ambassador)

[QUOTE=jbettis32;14711162]I still dont see anyone can stop a healthy Kawhi in the Warriors, so if Kawhi plays out well and Kyle, Siakam, and Vanvleet have little pressure to play their game. Once Raptors can take game one, all the pressure is on the Warriors then. It should be a tight series not as the press hypes at a 4 or 5 games series.[/QUOTE]

LOL....just stop already.

[QUOTE=the mesiah;14711145]With or without KD, it’s the Warriors that’s going to be on top .GSW are a different animal than the inexperienced Bucks ..Kawhi would have put on a Jordan NBA Finals like performance thru out the series and I don’t think he has it in him and role players would have to play at their highest possible level and be mistake free .[/QUOTE]

Wait, so this logic doesnt apply when flipping sides? Clippers and Trailblazers are not the Raptors.

This series will be closer than everyone is making it out to be.

Dubbbbbbbssszzzzzz - if there is a brave soul out there who wants +250; you know where to reach me :)

Warriors in 5 unless they get KD back then in 4.

Raptors in 7 - Kawhi's ultimate revenge-mode season

GSW in 6

Raptors in 7!

[QUOTE=codered;14711228]Because they beat Houston one game and swept a blazers team without their best post player (Nurkic is infinity better than Kanter who is terrible on D) and their best player separated his ribs game two, that makes you think they don’t need KD? Short sighted much?

Without KD this team is much worse than their 14-15 counterpart that struggled to win in 6 against a lebron lead cavs team that didn’t have Love or Kyrie. The raptors are much better than the cavs team that didn’t have Love/Kyrie in the finals. When lebron had Kyrie and Love the KDless warriors couldn’t defend him so they had to go out a get KD (writing that made me throw up a little as I’m not a lebron fan boy at all lol) to defend and beat lebron. Kawhi is in that same ballpark. Without KD they don’t have anyone that can defend Kawhi one on one (no disrespect to klay and your best kawhi defender is no longer on your team, cheap shot Zaza). Guys like iggy, Livingston and Bogut are much older, no barnes and the bench of iggy, barbosa, lee and ezeli is much better than the bench you have now.[/QUOTE]

Guarding Kawhi isn't the key to stopping the Rapotors. He's going to get his 30 ppg. GS need to stop their role players/bench.

That was one of the most over the top hypothetical posts I've ever read btw.

I think warriors win but no Durant. If anyone saw footage from scrimmage today where he is walking off court he is still limping badly.

gonna be like the 2004 Finals....where everyone just assumed the Lakers would coast to another title....then the Pistons came in and pretty much dominated the series....

Raptors in 5!!!

And after everyone will all the sudden realize "yea obviously this was the end of that dynasty and now they will break up and go their separate ways"

[QUOTE=jstasyk1121;14713673]gonna be like the 2004 Finals....where everyone just assumed the Lakers would coast to another title....then the Pistons came in and pretty much dominated the series....

Raptors in 5!!!

And after everyone will all the sudden realize "yea obviously this was the end of that dynasty and now they will break up and go their separate ways"[/QUOTE]

This is a real possibility. Just look at everyone jumping ship on Milwaukee / Giannis. All it took was four games for them to go from “Bring on the Warriors... we got the next face of the NBA” to “release everyone.. and Giannis isn’t that good.”

This year we were blessed to have such a great Eastern Conference playoffs, and now the best team of that group is up against the defending champs. I have little doubt that Milwaukee, Philly, or Toronto wouldnt get past anyone in the West that isn’t Golden State, so now we’re truly getting the best matchup the NBA has to offer.

[QUOTE=deemsterz33;14713405]Guarding Kawhi isn't the key to stopping the Rapotors. He's going to get his 30 ppg. GS need to stop their role players/bench.

That was one of the most over the top hypothetical posts I've ever read btw.[/QUOTE]

Over the top? How? On the finals countdown show yesterday doc rivers (he might now a thing or two about basketball) was echoing may assertion that without KD they don’t have anyone that can stop kawhi. The key for GS is exactly how do you defend kawhi. Are you sending doubles and triple his way like philly and the bucks did? If he’s a willing passer are you willing to let the other guys get open looks? Do you not send help to put more pressure on Lowry, Gasol, green, siakam and the bench? Who guards kawhi one on one? You send klay and let kawhi feast near the rim? Do you put draymond on him and pull your only above average rim defender away from the rim? Do you hope iggy can keep up all game? Is it a look of switching all 3 on him. How you defend kawhi is the absolute focus of stopping the raps lol! I’m sure Steve Kerr just walked into the team meeting today and was like “boys the game plan for the series is just stop the other guys, don’t worry about stopping that kawhi guy or how to defend him”.

Also listening to guys like Richard Jefferson and Harrison Barnes last night talk about how this team without KD isn’t as good as the pre KD warriors for the same reasons I stated kind of adds some validation to my point as well. Tell me again how it’s, “over the top”. People need to stop looking at the warriors as this flawless team. They are very very good but they have weaknesses. I just hope the raptors can exploit those weaknesses

[QUOTE=codered;14713759]Over the top? How? On the finals countdown show yesterday doc rivers (he might now a thing or two about basketball) was echoing may assertion that without KD they don’t have anyone that can stop kawhi. The key for GS is exactly how do you defend kawhi. Are you sending doubles and triple his way like philly and the bucks did? If he’s a willing passer are you willing to let the other guys get open looks? Do you not send help to put more pressure on Lowry, Gasol, green, siakam and the bench? Who guards kawhi one on one? You send klay and let kawhi feast near the rim? Do you put draymond on him and pull your only above average rim defender away from the rim? Do you hope iggy can keep up all game? Is it a look of switching all 3 on him. How you defend kawhi is the absolute focus of stopping the raps lol! I’m sure Steve Kerr just walked into the team meeting today and was like “boys the game plan for the series is just stop the other guys, don’t worry about stopping that kawhi guy or how to defend him”.

Also listening to guys like Richard Jefferson and Harrison Barnes last night talk about how this team without KD isn’t as good as the pre KD warriors for the same reasons I stated kind of adds some validation to my point as well. Tell me again how it’s, “over the top”. People need to stop looking at the warriors as this flawless team. They are very very good but they have weaknesses. I just hope the raptors can exploit those weaknesses[/QUOTE]

Dont bother with him. Dude knows nothing about how the raps play/played and what the match up will be like. He has been dogging the Raps the whole way.

If I was Kerr, I would let Kawhi do his thing and make sure no one else goes off.



I would also think having kawhi guard Curry would be a tough assignment as he would have to fight through multiple screens on an apparent bum quad.



Should be interesting!

[QUOTE=Orangejello727;14714058]Dont bother with him. Dude knows nothing about how the raps play/played and what the match up will be like. He has been dogging the Raps the whole way.[/QUOTE]

Haha I figured as much. I don’t think most people commenting have watch a full game this year, let alone a raps game lol

[QUOTE=blackbears86;14714120]If I was Kerr, I would let Kawhi do his thing and make sure no one else goes off.



I would also think having kawhi guard Curry would be a tough assignment as he would have to fight through multiple screens on an apparent bum quad.



Should be interesting![/QUOTE]

First off nobody is saying they are a bum squad but that without KD they aren’t as good as warriors teams past haha so drop the dramatics. Kawhi won’t be on Steph. One of the reasons is as you said, chasing him all day around a million screens can get exhausting. They’ll probably play somewhat of a zone and rely on their ability to switch and close out. Having siakam, kawhi and Gasol/ibaka on the front will help because all three can defend the rim and can still defend in space. You’re not gonna get “hurt” if one of them ends up on curry on a switch (besides curry can get his shot off on anyone with his handle and quick release) because you still have more than capable defenders at the rim. You’ll probably see a little more ibaka this series as well. Gasol isn’t slow and he’s still a good defender when he gets in space but ibaka is definitely more athletic and a better defender on the perimeter.

[QUOTE=codered;14714261]Haha I figured as much. I don’t think most people commenting have watch a full game this year, let alone a raps game lol



[B]First off nobody is saying they are a bum squad but that without KD they aren’t as good as warriors teams past haha so drop the dramatics. [/B]Kawhi won’t be on Steph. One of the reasons is as you said, chasing him all day around a million screens can get exhausting. They’ll probably play somewhat of a zone and rely on their ability to switch and close out. Having siakam, kawhi and Gasol/ibaka on the front will help because all three can defend the rim and can still defend in space. You’re not gonna get “hurt” if one of them ends up on curry on a switch (besides curry can get his shot off on anyone with his handle and quick release) because you still have more than capable defenders at the rim. You’ll probably see a little more ibaka this series as well. Gasol isn’t slow and he’s still a good defender when he gets in space but ibaka is definitely more athletic and a better defender on the perimeter.[/QUOTE]




What the heck are you talking about??:confused:


I said it would be interesting if Kawhi guarded Curry with his bum[B] QUAD.[/B]

I would assume he would not.

[QUOTE=blackbears86;14714329]What the heck are you talking about??:confused:


I said it would be interesting if Kawhi guarded Curry with his bum[B] QUAD.[/B]

I would assume he would not.[/QUOTE]

Lol sorry!! I thought you wrote bum squad lol my bad

[QUOTE=codered;14714359]Lol sorry!! I thought you wrote bum squad lol my bad[/QUOTE]

I think this series will be very close. I'm still saying Warriors because of experience and firepower, but Toronto has shown some excellent defense.

My final thoughts.

1. We know GS has the firepower---does Toronto?
2. Besides Kawhi: who will step up for the Raptors?
3. Will KD and Cousins play? And will they even have an impact? Will it be a negative impact?
4. Will the bench continue to step up for both squads or will the spincters tighten?
5. Will we see the Van fleet of the last few games or the Van Fleet of the first two games?
6. Will Draymond kick Gasol in the nuts?

[QUOTE=blackbears86;14714423]I think this series will be very close. I'm still saying Warriors because of experience and firepower, but Toronto has shown some excellent defense.

My final thoughts.

1. We know GS has the firepower---does Toronto? [COLOR="Red"]Toronto does[/COLOR]
2. Besides Kawhi: who will step up for the Raptors? [COLOR="red"]Kyle, Siakam, Ibaka[/COLOR]
3. Will KD and Cousins play? And will they even have an impact? Will it be a negative impact? [COLOR="red"]only assume a positive impact[/COLOR]
4. Will the bench continue to step up for both squads or will the spincters tighten? [COLOR="red"]if the benches show up, itll be the TSN turning point of the series[/COLOR]
5. Will we see the Van fleet of the last few games or the Van Fleet of the first two games? [COLOR="red"]Lets hope we see the best FV[/COLOR]
6. Will Draymond kick Gasol in the nuts?[COLOR="red"] I say no[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

We all know the dubs are favored and have more experience in the post season, especially playing in the finals. Thats all a given. The Raptors are under dogs, vegas odds show by just how much!!

I dont think anyone is arguing that. But the NBA Playoffs "Where anything happens" is what everyone is excited for. The favored team doesnt always win. The momentum turns at any given point and players shine while others miss their mark. Thats what makes this the Finals.

None of us know who will play above their capability or below. For all we know the players on the Warriors dont perform as well as they did and maybe the raps down...or vice versa.

I think not many people giving the Raptors credit where credit is due is the problem here.

Wake up!

[QUOTE=RichardGasner;14714651]I think not many people giving the Raptors credit where credit is due is the problem here.

Wake up![/QUOTE]

Most people here don’t watch basketball. Don’t hold it against them. If they did, they’d recognize Toronto is as legit as they come.

[QUOTE=ballhawkdawk;14714674]Most people here don’t watch basketball. Don’t hold it against them. If they did, they’d recognize Toronto is as legit as they come.[/QUOTE]Legit choke every year in the playoff

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Raps win Game 1 then choke away the series as per usual.

J/K without Durant if he doesn't come back I think they win but when he does I think GSW wins.

[QUOTE=RichardGasner;14714651]I think not many people giving the Raptors credit where credit is due is the problem here.

Wake up![/QUOTE]



I'm giving them plenty of credit. They are playing very well right now. But teams have a reputation based on history and they have a history of folding.



Will that change starting Thursday? Stay tuned!!!!!!!

Warriors in 4.


Thanks.

[QUOTE=Goldminer;14714689]Legit choke every year in the playoff

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They had Derozan in the playoffs the last x amount of years. He seemed to be a great regular season star, but never really showed up in the playoffs when it mean something. The Raptors acquired this guy...I think his name is Kawhi?Apparently, he Hs playoff and championship finals experience...and fared pretty well during them. Please don’t speak on a team that isn’t the same as it was, as if it is.

[QUOTE=RichardGasner;14714651]I think not many people giving the Raptors credit where credit is due is the problem here.

Wake up![/QUOTE]

I also think it’s partly due to the western conference bias. People think the raps might not score enough because they struggle to score at times against the sixers and bucks. Well the sixers are a great defensive team. Butler, embiid and Simmons are very good to elite defenders! Embiid at worst is a top 3 rim protector. The bucks, were the best defensive team all year! Giannis is one of the other top 3 rim defenders (gobert being the 3rd member of the top 3) in the league. When people say Toronto can’t score (which they can) based off the last two series is extremely disrespectful to the bucks and sixers.

[QUOTE=codered;14714844]I also think it’s partly due to the western conference bias. People think the raps might not score enough because they struggle to score at times against the sixers and bucks. Well the sixers are a great defensive team. Butler, embiid and Simmons are very good to elite defenders! Embiid at worst is a top 3 rim protector. The bucks, were the best defensive team all year! Giannis is one of the other top 3 rim defenders (gobert being the 3rd member of the top 3) in the league. When people say Toronto can’t score (which they can) based off the last two series is extremely disrespectful to the bucks and sixers.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Considering the Raptors points for and against in the regular season
114.4 vs 108.4 +6
And the Warriors
117.7 vs 111.2 +6.5

It should be close offensively and defensively. Again, I will mention that these stats are without Leonard for a quarter of the season, as he sat 22 games

[QUOTE=Goldminer;14714689]Legit choke every year in the playoff

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Exactly. This is some BS ESPN panelist type take. Try again.

[quote=tennelson55;14711482]dubbbbbbbssszzzzzz - if there is a brave soul out there who wants +250; you know where to reach me :)[/quote]

[size="7"]raptors fans pm me if you think the dubs have a chance [/size]

[QUOTE=blackbears86;14714719]I'm giving them plenty of credit. They are playing very well right now. But teams have a reputation based on history and they have a history of folding.



Will that change starting Thursday? Stay tuned!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

If anything history should tell you not to base 100% of your predictions on historical outcomes. If you did, you would be wrong more times than you would be correct. Also dont base your predictions on favorites as well. This year should show you that as well.

If you based your facts on history, would you have thought that the dubs would 4 out the Cavs last year? Hell no. Do you know why? because based on history, both teams didnt play anything like they did the year previous.

So taking into the context the changes that have been made for this years Raps team, why would you use historical performance to predict this year? Because you think Kawahi = DeRozan? Or Gasol = Jonas?? Or Nurse = Casey??? better yet... Lowry last year vs lowry this year? Of all things, Lowrys performance should be a huge indicator that things arent the same as last year.

Can't wait. Damn the schedule is crap for us Aussies. A Friday game and then a Monday game.

Why would the NBA want a Thursday and Sunday game over your way? Will they get more viewers that way?

GS will get Boogue back but I would not be starting him. Use him if they need some size in the 2nd unit.

Klay is gonna prove he's worth a massive contract and come up with key stops vs Kawhi. Kawhi will still get his. Dude is incredible. Iggy will get time on Kawhi also but that transition 3 is what hurts teams.

Should be an awesome series

Yeah, the Raptors choked against the Sixers and Bucks. They choked sooooo hard.

Yes, I know the Raptors are a huge vegas dog.


But some of the 'cakewalk' sentiment is eerily similar to what people were saying heading into the Bucks series.

[QUOTE=ninjacookies;14715843]Yes, I know the Raptors are a huge vegas dog.


But some of the 'cakewalk' sentiment is eerily similar to what people were saying heading into the Bucks series.[/QUOTE]

I've gotta believe the only reason Vegas has GS so short is because a lot of people would have bet GS hard early on.

Each game should see good value both ways.

[QUOTE=drobfan8;14716227]I've gotta believe the only reason Vegas has GS so short is because a lot of people would have bet GS hard early on.

Each game should see good value both ways.[/QUOTE]

Raps now a 1 point fave in game 1.

That spread is looking tempting though.

I think people are underestimating raptors homecourt advantage and how the Warriors haven’t seems to have as much of an advantage at home in the playoffs especially when teams shoot well from 3. Also I really think Kawhi is going to tear them apart. I think raptors in 6 or 7

[QUOTE=tennelson55;14711482]Dubbbbbbbssszzzzzz - if there is a brave soul out there who wants +250; you know where to reach me :)[/QUOTE]

I’d take that for $20

[QUOTE=drobfan8;14715571]Can't wait. Damn the schedule is crap for us Aussies. A Friday game and then a Monday game.

Why would the NBA want a Thursday and Sunday game over your way? Will they get more viewers that way?

GS will get Boogue back but I would not be starting him. Use him if they need some size in the 2nd unit.

Klay is gonna prove he's worth a massive contract and come up with key stops vs Kawhi. Kawhi will still get his. Dude is incredible. Iggy will get time on Kawhi also but that transition 3 is what hurts teams.

Should be an awesome series[/QUOTE]

Agree with most here. You can't rush Cousins out there, if he does play it should be on the second unit. I'm surprised he's playing to be honest.

You're right that Klay is essential. Iguadola is older now and banged up and just can't check a player like Leonard anymore, at least not for extended periods. Really nobody can. But Thompson will be tasked with doing a lot of the defense on him and we will see if he can keep him contained. Leonard is just a very strong, tough player to guard.

Raptors match up pretty well with GS. I think they would have rather dealt with Giannis frankly.

If Durant can't play soon and isn't 100% I think it's a bigger deal than most want to admit. He's an incredible player and his absence is going to potentially be a big deal here.

The intangibles go to the Warriors obviously. They are champions all around. They will be tough to beat. But I agree this could be one heck of a Finals.

Raptors in 7

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[QUOTE=ninjacookies;14716245]Raps now a 1 point fave in game 1.

That spread is looking tempting though.[/QUOTE]

I have no idea who I'd take. GS need to win 1 of the first 2. Does GS have an advantage or disadvantage with the time off? How about the Raps. I guess we'll find out.

Kerr's game plan will be crucial.

[QUOTE=NinjaJohnny;14716345]Agree with most here. You can't rush Cousins out there, if he does play it should be on the second unit. I'm surprised he's playing to be honest.

You're right that Klay is essential. Iguadola is older now and banged up and just can't check a player like Leonard anymore, at least not for extended periods. Really nobody can. But Thompson will be tasked with doing a lot of the defense on him and we will see if he can keep him contained. Leonard is just a very strong, tough player to guard.

Raptors match up pretty well with GS. I think they would have rather dealt with Giannis frankly.

If Durant can't play soon and isn't 100% I think it's a bigger deal than most want to admit. He's an incredible player and his absence is going to potentially be a big deal here.

The intangibles go to the Warriors obviously. They are champions all around. They will be tough to beat. But I agree this could be one heck of a Finals.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I just feel Klay wants his defense to be noticed more than it is, this is the match up he can show that. Kawhi has been closing games better than anybody. It will be interesting to see if he can keep it up.

I'm not sure we'll see GS let slip a 15 point lead in the 3rd qtr like MIL did in game 6.

Hold on a second...

I swear there were tons of people in the ECF thread (among others) saying that it doesn't matter who came out of the East because the Dubs played better without Durant and this was gonna be a 5 game, 6 game series tops and an easy ring for them.

What happened that made you change your mind?

[QUOTE=yiguiri2002;14716475]Hold on a second...

I swear there were tons of people in the ECF thread (among others) saying that it doesn't matter who came out of the East because the Dubs played better without Durant and this was gonna be a 5 game, 6 game series tops and an easy ring for them.

What happened that made you change your mind?[/QUOTE]

Kawhi hit a game winner then they reeled off 4 in a row on the best regular season team. I'm flip flopping like a politician. But the special season narrative is hard to completely ignore. Still have the warriors because of experience, but would not be completely surprised to see Toronto pull off a 2011 Mavs performance.

I also expect this to be 2-2 heading into game 5.

Think: Warriors in 6

Want: Raptors in 7

Tonight is the night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Warrriors in 6

Game1 GSW
Game2 TOR
Game3 GSW
Game4 GSW
Game5 TOR
Game6 GSW

Kawhi will shut down Curry for the first few.. then out of nowhere Draymond Green will poke Kawhi's eyes on accident.. GSW wins the series. I hope Nick Nurse realizes their only hope to win the series is to start Linsanity!

If this ends up being a close series who cards from either sides could see a bump other than Kawhi. Just whoever steps up for the Warriors?

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[QUOTE=COMCMax;14716997]If this ends up being a close series who cards from either sides could see a bump other than Kawhi. Just whoever steps up for the Warriors?

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I could see Siakam getting a bump with a good series. And for the Warriors maybe Looney if he plays well with KD+Boogie out.

Excited! Gonna be interesting. All comes down to if Toronto role players come to play. Kawhi is great, but he's not good enough to beat the Warriors on his own. Lowry and Siakam are going to have to come up big and Vleet and Green hitting their 3s. Gasol/Ibaka contributing something also. Possible, but tough.

Kerr just announced that Cousins will play in game 1. Will be interesting to see what kind of shape he’ll be in. Even if he just plays 12-15 minutes off the bench it strengthens their depth for sure.

[QUOTE=jcmel323;14716889]Warrriors in 6

Game1 GSW
Game2 TOR
Game3 GSW
Game4 GSW
Game5 TOR
Game6 GSW[/QUOTE]

Raptors in 6

Game 1 Raptors
Game 2 Raptors
Game 3 GSW
Game 4 Raptors
Game 5 GSW
Game 6 Raptors

[QUOTE=jcmel323;14716889]Warrriors in 6

Game1 GSW
Game2 TOR
Game3 GSW
Game4 GSW
Game5 TOR
Game6 GSW[/QUOTE]

Exactly what I was thinking.