Potential Worth of Soccer Cards as Market Grows
 

I have been questioning this for some time now. If you think of it, the first "big" soccer product to be released was 2014 World Cup Prizm which included autographs of legends and big name players. Since that point in time, we have seen high end sets like National Treasures, Eminence, and a couple of others. As we see more and more products come out, I wonder if there will be a day in which Ronaldo or Messi autos sell for Jordan or Brady amounts even though there are high end cards of Messi and Ronaldo that sell for over $1,000

I'm not strictly focusing on those two players only, I just give the example being that they're the prominent figures in world soccer. It would be interesting to see where the market is in five years.

Any thoughts?

Messi autos already sell for a comparable amount as Brady's. MJ is different because he doesn't have licensed autos any more.

There are way more soccer fans around the world than fans of any other sport, but card culture is different in the US. It seems that in South America and Europe collectors generally don't view cards as investments, which is what ultimately drives up prices in North America. Vintage cards (eg Pele rookies) sell for tens of thousands, typically to North American collectors.

I don't think soccer will ever be as highly collected in the US as the other sports, so it will depend on whether the rest of the world adopts the North American card culture (and whether disposable income rises in parallel). Either way, I think there will be more growth in important soccer issues than those of any other sport as prices are already so high elsewhere.

I've been collecting for years and I have an Excel spreadsheet with all my purchases, so I can see the exponential growth in just the last few years. My collection is already worth ten times what it was worth just a few years ago.

For example, back in 2012, I was buying Messi rookies in bunches for $5 apiece, including his Megacracks that some sellers on ebay are now listing for $500-1000.

Back in 2013, I bought two Alfredo di Stefano rookies (from 1953) for $3 and $4 each...today, those are going for $85-100, and sometimes much more. And now that Di Stefano has passed away, just imagine how much his autograph is worth on a 50-year old German card printed in limited supply.

I bought a bunch of old Spanish (chocolate) cards from the 1920s featuring Paulinho Alcantara (the all-time leading goal scorer at Barca until Messi broke his record a few years ago) on the cheap for less than $5 apiece, and I just saw one sell today for over $100.

The same goes for rookies of CR7, Beckenbauer, Maradona, (the other) Ronaldo, Garrincha, Beckham, and on and on...the market is exploding, but it's a mistake to think that the first big soccer product started in 2014. Soccer cards have been around since the 1800s, and if you're lucky enough to have a rookie card of Pele or Jose Andrade or Hans Gamper (the guy who started FC Barcelona), you can count yourself very lucky indeed.

The market is exploding, if you know what to buy. In five years time, as these old cards become more and more rare, they'll be worth ten times what they're worth today, and the potential market will be much larger than for American-based sports like basketball or American football. I am American, but I live in Thailand and there are tons of collectors here. Just imagine when citizens of other footie-loving countries get more disposable income.

It's going to get even better in the coming years...if the ice caps don't flood all our major cities and destroy human civilization as we know it.

A very interesting take. Will be following this thread.

I too think soccer has the biggest potential for percentage growth right now compared to other major sports. Just look at all the kids that are playing it. Then look at all the colleges that are adopting it that didn’t have it until recently.

With fewer and fewer kids playing American football due to parental concerns over concussions, I think soccer has explosive growth potential.

I’ve been buying all the Topps NOW soccer cards since they are very short printed, sometimes having print runs in the 30s or less. If they never catch on, I’ll still be happy to pass something “rare” and licensed on to my kids.

I'm wondering if 2014 prizm auto cards will be consider rookie autos..especially for guys like Neymar etc..as it was their first autograph cards.

[QUOTE=Shinypsptitans;15033619]I'm wondering if 2014 prizm auto cards will be consider rookie autos..especially for guys like Neymar etc..as it was their first autograph cards.[/QUOTE]

The rookie cards of these players ( messi,ronaldo,neymar etc) are going up all the time. however the prizm autos are coming down since panini is flooding the market with tons of autos.

[QUOTE=AsianBrizz;15031623]I've been collecting for years and I have an Excel spreadsheet with all my purchases, so I can see the exponential growth in just the last few years. My collection is already worth ten times what it was worth just a few years ago.

For example, back in 2012, I was buying Messi rookies in bunches for $5 apiece, including his Megacracks that some sellers on ebay are now listing for $500-1000.

Back in 2013, I bought two Alfredo di Stefano rookies (from 1953) for $3 and $4 each...today, those are going for $85-100, and sometimes much more. And now that Di Stefano has passed away, just imagine how much his autograph is worth on a 50-year old German card printed in limited supply.

I bought a bunch of old Spanish (chocolate) cards from the 1920s featuring Paulinho Alcantara (the all-time leading goal scorer at Barca until Messi broke his record a few years ago) on the cheap for less than $5 apiece, and I just saw one sell today for over $100.

The same goes for rookies of CR7, Beckenbauer, Maradona, (the other) Ronaldo, Garrincha, Beckham, and on and on...the market is exploding, but it's a mistake to think that the first big soccer product started in 2014. Soccer cards have been around since the 1800s, and if you're lucky enough to have a rookie card of Pele or Jose Andrade or Hans Gamper (the guy who started FC Barcelona), you can count yourself very lucky indeed.

The market is exploding, if you know what to buy. In five years time, as these old cards become more and more rare, they'll be worth ten times what they're worth today, and the potential market will be much larger than for American-based sports like basketball or American football. I am American, but I live in Thailand and there are tons of collectors here. Just imagine when citizens of other footie-loving countries get more disposable income.

It's going to get even better in the coming years...if the ice caps don't flood all our major cities and destroy human civilization as we know it.[/QUOTE]

Where is the best place to find and purchase pre 2014wc soccer cards?
Thanks

eBay.com is the biggest and best location for finding old soccer cards. If you are on Facebook, there are tons of groups for soccer cards and stickers.

[QUOTE=AsianBrizz;15033815]eBay.com is the biggest and best location for finding old soccer cards. If you are on Facebook, there are tons of groups for soccer cards and stickers.[/QUOTE]

Thanks

[QUOTE=Anish;15031590]Messi autos already sell for a comparable amount as Brady's. MJ is different because he doesn't have licensed autos any more.

There are way more soccer fans around the world than fans of any other sport, but card culture is different in the US. It seems that in South America and Europe collectors generally don't view cards as investments, which is what ultimately drives up prices in North America. Vintage cards (eg Pele rookies) sell for tens of thousands, typically to North American collectors.

I don't think soccer will ever be as highly collected in the US as the other sports, so it will depend on whether the rest of the world adopts the North American card culture (and whether disposable income rises in parallel). Either way, I think there will be more growth in important soccer issues than those of any other sport as prices are already so high elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

This 100%. Most of the world see card collecting as fun, but would never pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for a piece of cardboard. I was born in and lived in Portugal for many years. If you showed a card to any European and told them, this card is worth even a low high end number of say....$1000, they would laugh in your face and think you were 'Special' lol.

What do folks consider Ronaldo’s rc? Messi?

[QUOTE=Prospectorsadvantage;15058927]What do folks consider Ronaldo’s rc? Messi?[/QUOTE]

Ronaldos is 2003 panini megacraques in sporting lisbon colors ( card number 137)and messis is 2004 panini megacracks in barca color ( card number 71).

The problem for the soccer card market is the high levels of player movement....people love a player while he's playing for their club, but as soon as he moves to a different club, their interest level wanes. So it's hard for players to build a long-term collector base.

All-time greats are able to maintain/increase their value, but most other players have very small markets.

This is a good point, but NT players seem to be an exception. I know that many Americans collect American players, regardless of their club teams. This may be particularly American, but I suspect many other countries (England, Portugal, Germany, etc) can be quite nationalistic and may also collect their own NT players.

Overall, though, you make a good point about the differences between collecting soccer and something like baseball or basketball.

Also I think that the toughness of discerning a true rookie card makes it harder to capture that appealing element of marketing the hobby. In most major leagues guys don't have a clearly defined starting season - they might play a couple of games in their first year, but not have a card, then end up getting one thr following year. Then, as a previous poster said, they will likely move leagues... a lot of big players seem to have 'true' rookies that are from oddball sets rather than the more popular mainstream ones. The lure of the 'rookie' is something that I think would have some appeal in the UK for example, because certain US traditions are quite familiar to us, but it's a tougher sell in the football card realm.

Great point by everyone. The issues with "rookie cards" is the fact that the trajectory of players isn't as structured as the MLB, NFL, or NBA for example. The market for soccer (futbol) is definitely much higher globally than other sports but, as someone mentioned the disposal income component is important regarding being able to spend on cards.

The "Rookie Card" is an American thing. Most international collectors could care less. I don't think "rookie cards" will ever be as popular in Soccer as they are in baseball and other American sports. But, Panini is doing it's best to try to promote them. They even have a RC logo on cards in their Immaculate product.

As far as growth, it's been steady for the past five years or so and should continue for the next five plus. Will soccer overtake baseball and football in the USA? Not a chance. Just look at Topps living set. 200 print runs for a star soccer player and 2500 for a baseball common. This includes the international markets. But, prices for autographs and other soccer cards have risen consistently. Investing in sports cards is rarely a good idea. It's a poor investment. But collecting is becoming more popular. Plus it's a world wide market which makes it more fun. Buy what you like and collect for fun and you wont be disappointed.

There is certainly a big market for vintage rookie collecting, perhaps moreso outside the US. When key rookies come up there is quite some competition. For me there is a gulf between vintage and modern collectors and how the hobby progresses depends if / how the two meet.

Will the guys that track down rare Pele, Dixie Dean, Meazza and Cruyff rookies care about modern cards with all the parallels? In the future that is where rookies will be found, but will it give the same thrill of the hunt? Likewise will modern collectors ever get the bug to pick up older cards as they complete modern collections; will the Messi collector start going after Maradona or Di Stefano, will the Neymar collector get the Pele bug or will the stickers / cards be too boring and from an era with no personal connection?

I'd like to think they two can co-exist and help each other. The modern collectors will start to appreciate the history and giants of the game and start to pick up key cards from the past while the vintage collectors find a new rush hunting down key modern cards made in limited numbers.

I've been thinking a lot about this lately. Seems like there are more and more investors jumping into the sports card collecting world. Everyone is looking for the next big thing to buy cheap and then pump it up to flip.

What if all the folks buying up Prizm Silvers and Optic Holos in Basketball/Football decide to jump over to Soccer as it's so cheap compared to Basketball and Football. We could potentially see a big jump in Messi/Ronaldo Refractors, Silvers and Holos. Could lead into the younger players too (Mbappe, Felix, Sancho). Especially as we get closer to the next World Cup.
Feels like there are more and more new soccer collectors popping up in the USA and as you all know....it only takes a small "buyers group" to change pricing quickly.

Just a few of my thoughts....

Pulisic prices on the up & up after his hat trick. Nice to see a soccer player getting a little bump.

[QUOTE=GrangerCollectr;15184556]I've been thinking a lot about this lately. Seems like there are more and more investors jumping into the sports card collecting world. Everyone is looking for the next big thing to buy cheap and then pump it up to flip.

What if all the folks buying up Prizm Silvers and Optic Holos in Basketball/Football decide to jump over to Soccer as it's so cheap compared to Basketball and Football. We could potentially see a big jump in Messi/Ronaldo Refractors, Silvers and Holos. Could lead into the younger players too (Mbappe, Felix, Sancho). Especially as we get closer to the next World Cup.
Feels like there are more and more new soccer collectors popping up in the USA and as you all know....it only takes a small "buyers group" to change pricing quickly.

Just a few of my thoughts....[/QUOTE]

There's too many silvers in soccer prizm and most care about low numbered ones since those are still relatively cheap.

Markets don't translate to other sports all the time.

Since the RC thing is a mess in soccer it will never go over well with as other sports. Maybe original sets and 1st prizms but who really knows.

[b]k13[/b] - I agree with everything you just said. Again, I don't think it would be soccer collectors that would drive prices up....I think it would be folks that are looking for the next thing to buy cheap and then pump it up to flip.

I've never collected Soccer in my life until the past year (done baseball, football and basketball for over 25 years). I can see that it is a whole different world when it comes to collecting in soccer but I also think if more of us navigate over from basketball/football/baseball looking for the next "Prizm Silver" or "Optic Holo" it could easily be with Soccer with it being so cheap. I don't think we will see a Messi Prizm Silver sell for $100 bucks but it could easily go from $5 to $20 if more people start looking for the next big thing.

Maybe I'm just rambling but something that I am going to experiment with. So, if anyone reading this is selling Messi, Ronaldo or Mbappe Prizm parallels or Topps Chrome refractors then feel free to hit me up haha!

As a middle-aged American living in Southeast Asia, I see this a little differently.

The soccer collector market is not exploding because of American collectors moving over from other sports, but rather from rich Asian collectors who (more and more) have the passion and the money to spend big. I regularly see big prices for new cards on Facebook, much higher than on ebay. Many Asian collectors don't use ebay, for example, or don't know how to see all the items available to the North American market, so things get skewed. You can still get vintage soccer cards for decent prices, but a new 1/1 or 1/10 of a current player like Messi, Ronaldo, or Mo Salah can go for hundreds of dollars or more on Facebook! I'm in about a dozen collector groups on Facebook and I regularly see insane prices on that site. It seems to me that many new Asian collectors, in particular, buy into this idea of high-end and low-end cards, and they're willing to pay top dollar.

Sure, a new Panini Prizm card looks quite slick compared to a Match Attax card or a Bundesliga sticker, but I wonder how much these cards will hold their value over time. I get the feeling that buying some of these cards will be like buying a brand new car that loses a lot of value as soon as you drive it off the lot.

Personally, I might spend $200 on a 60-year old Pele card, but I'm not putting down that kind of money for a 3-month old Rhian Brewster card, even if it is a rookie autograph numbered 1/10 on nice card stock with shiny colors.

Given the expanding wealth in Asia and other parts of the world, I don't think it's possible to accurately predict what these collectors will do with these cards or how they will react over time. The Internet has opened everything up, and I don't believe that everyone collects the same way Americans collected baseball (and then other sports) in the 20th century. We're in for a ride...

Awesome take and information! Maybe I need to join some soccer Facebook groups because it's the same old stuff on Ebay and nobody sells soccer on here.

[QUOTE=AsianBrizz;15190155]As a middle-aged American living in Southeast Asia, I see this a little differently.

The soccer collector market is not exploding because of American collectors moving over from other sports, but rather from rich Asian collectors who (more and more) have the passion and the money to spend big. I regularly see big prices for new cards on Facebook, much higher than on ebay. Many Asian collectors don't use ebay, for example, or don't know how to see all the items available to the North American market, so things get skewed. You can still get vintage soccer cards for decent prices, but a new 1/1 or 1/10 of a current player like Messi, Ronaldo, or Mo Salah can go for hundreds of dollars or more on Facebook! I'm in about a dozen collector groups on Facebook and I regularly see insane prices on that site. It seems to me that many new Asian collectors, in particular, buy into this idea of high-end and low-end cards, and they're willing to pay top dollar.

Sure, a new Panini Prizm card looks quite slick compared to a Match Attax card or a Bundesliga sticker, but I wonder how much these cards will hold their value over time. I get the feeling that buying some of these cards will be like buying a brand new car that loses a lot of value as soon as you drive it off the lot.

Personally, I might spend $200 on a 60-year old Pele card, but I'm not putting down that kind of money for a 3-month old Rhian Brewster card, even if it is a rookie autograph numbered 1/10 on nice card stock with shiny colors.

Given the expanding wealth in Asia and other parts of the world, I don't think it's possible to accurately predict what these collectors will do with these cards or how they will react over time. The Internet has opened everything up, and I don't believe that everyone collects the same way Americans collected baseball (and then other sports) in the 20th century. We're in for a ride...[/QUOTE]

Good discussions here.
I have started collecting/looking into soccer cards for the last 2 years and I see the prices are insane especially for big names like Messi Pele Ronaldo, I have seen Pele 1/1 prizm black sold instantly for 8K in fb group, also Messi prizm black heard sold for 25K. They are all in Asia.
I think soccer card is the next big things in collecting world

Two words. Jadon Sancho.

I played soccer for 12 years. This kid is incredible

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Yeah, with all the hype around some of the other young players around the world, Jadon Sancho has been lighting the bundesliga on fire. That kid can play, and more importantly, he IS playing...unlike Kubo or Foden, he's getting those critical minutes that will shape his future for years to come. Camavinga over at Rennes is another kid who's been really impressive, though Ligue 1 isn't exactly the bundesliga. Still, it's great to see youngsters doing well. It refreshes the spirit.

Hi all,
Interesting thread. I am a big soccer fan (from France) but I only collect NBA cards (90s and vintage). After reading more and more articles about soccer cards, I have decided to build up a cool collection that I will be looking to trade at Chicago National 2021, for NBA 90s inserts.
I already found a few nice ones:
1939 Churchman Bill Shankly (it seems to be his RC)
1957 Chocolates Zahor Raymond Kopa (is it his RC???)
1984 Cromos Rolan Hugo Sanchez
1984 Cromos Rolan Di Stefano
RC Iker Casillas
2005 Messi (2nd year card)
2005 David Silva (2nd year??)
2005 Iniesta (2nd year card I think)
One original book of the 1920s about FC Barcelona
And I will keep searching more.
I will update you on my cool finds.

Cheers,

HoustoM

I think Shankly's rookie is the 1934 PNE Barratt folder. Kopa is a bit tricky to pin down but he appears on a couple of Konig Fussball 1952 cards, possibly from his international debut. I wouldn't be surprised if there is something earlier though.

Soccer Atletico Madrid forward Joao Felix has been awarded the 2019 Golden Boy gong after a stellar year where he became one of the most expensive players of all time. The 20-year-old received 332 votes to beat Borussia Dortmund winger Jadon Sancho (175 votes) and Bayer Leverkusen midfielder Kai Havertz (75 votes) to pick up the award that recognises players under the age of 21.

I just pick up this 50 card set Will’s cigarettes for $4 and I’m wounding why these are so cheap? I don’t see a lot of them on eBay the ones I do see are international sellers

Just looking through that collection, the only names that jumps out are Stanley Matthews and Ted Drake but neither are the rookie cards. Both had been playing for a number of years.

If you google some of the others you see how unimpressive they are.

Grimsby Towns' Charles Craven! All time ninth top scorer for the Mariners!



For the most part its a collection of very average players.

True....but it’s still a set that is almost 80 years old. Compare to other sports where can you get 50 cigarette cards 80 years old for $4? I have to think there value if not still a cool set to have bring that old

Hi,
I’m not at all an expert in soccer cigarette cards, but if I understood well what I read on some specialized websites, apparently millions and millions of cards were produced at the time, because they were very popular. Which may explain the low value (not that low though!!).
Would be nice if an “expert” could confirm...

On a side note, today I bought Xavi’s RC at flea market.

I continue to see more and more interest here in America for soccer cards. Especially graded rookies and low numbered parallels of the legends.
Everyone is looking for the next big thing that they can buy low, grade, hold and then sell.....if you can do that with soccer and hold until the next World Cup...you'll be sitting on some nice profits :coffee:

Yeah, its an old collection but just because its old it doesnt make it valuable. What is on the cards is what makes them valuable.

Why would anyone be interested in these?

Why did you buy them? I reckon you bought them because of how cheap they were. Thats it. Thats what they mean to you.

I see them on sale on Ebay for 40 pounds or so. Would you have spent that much on the set?

You can pick up Stanley Matthews rookie card from a few before for pretty cheap too. A footballing legend, you would be better off getting that one. Plenty around.

[QUOTE=bobbycass;15327170]Yeah, its an old collection but just because its old it doesnt make it valuable. What is on the cards is what makes them valuable.

Why would anyone be interested in these?

Why did you buy them? I reckon you bought them because of how cheap they were. Thats it. Thats what they mean to you.

I see them on sale on Ebay for 40 pounds or so. Would you have spent that much on the set?

You can pick up Stanley Matthews rookie card from a few before for pretty cheap too. A footballing legend, you would be better off getting that one. Plenty around.[/QUOTE]

Correct they were cheap and I thought it was a cool set. I guess soccer is different. Any cards from 1939 in the four major sports has more value no matter who the person is. I could be wrong I don’t think you get anything close to 50 cards for $4. It looks like the cards are in decent shape.

It seems to me more and more kids are playing soccer each year while interest in playing other sports is not growing at the same pace.

Colleges are adding soccer as a new sport while already having other sports, so more kids seem to be going to college to play it.

Soccer seems to be aired on tv more than ever in my area.

I would guess soccer collectibles have a decent future ahead of them.

Well this is it, soccer could well go the same way. But Im not so sure. A lot more teams, a lot more players. Some teams will never have played in the top divisions, others will never have won a major trophy.

But they cost you 4 dollars. You wont have hard time selling them for 4 dollars. So nothing lost and its an interesting set.

[QUOTE=HoustOM;15316459]Hi all,
Interesting thread. I am a big soccer fan (from France) but I only collect NBA cards (90s and vintage). After reading more and more articles about soccer cards, I have decided to build up a cool collection that I will be looking to trade at Chicago National 2021, for NBA 90s inserts.
I already found a few nice ones:
1939 Churchman Bill Shankly (it seems to be his RC)
1957 Chocolates Zahor Raymond Kopa (is it his RC???)
1984 Cromos Rolan Hugo Sanchez
1984 Cromos Rolan Di Stefano
RC Iker Casillas
2005 Messi (2nd year card)
2005 David Silva (2nd year??)
2005 Iniesta (2nd year card I think)
One original book of the 1920s about FC Barcelona
And I will keep searching more.
I will update you on my cool finds.

Cheers,

HoustoM[/QUOTE]

Those are some nice cards for starting a new collection.

Iniesta's rookie is from 2002, when he had a Panini sticker and a Mundicromo card.
David Villa has an Este sticker, a Mundicromo card, and a couple Panini cards from 2003.
Hugo Sanchez has a couple cards from 1978.
I'm still looking for that Casillas rookie sticker (from Este), but as far as I know, he also has a 1999 card from Mundicromo.

I'm not sure about Raymond Kopa, but I do know that he has a 1956 Bruguera card, which you can see here: [url]https://www.footballsoccercards.com/1956-kopa-129-campeones-1957-bruguera-1503-p.asp[/url]

What's the title of that book about Barca? Is it in Spanish? I collect a couple players from that 1920s Barca team (Zamora, Samitier, and Alcantara, to be precise), and I know there are some books about that team, but I haven't found anything in English. I'm particularly interested in finding Alcantara's autobiography, but it doesn't seem to exist in English. :(

Hi,
Thanks for detailed answer.
Few points:
- I was talking about David Silva (Manchester City) not David Villa. But good to know about Villa's RC anyway.
- I have Casillas Mundicromo RC. I will check the other one too.
- The book is in Catalan. I would be surprised if you find anything original from that period in English. Not sure about title (cover page missing) but it is a summary of every game they played within a 4 years period. Cool stuff!

Soccer cards are def worth money. Stock up on Messi and Ronaldo and hold.


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[QUOTE=HoustOM;15328436]Hi,
Thanks for detailed answer.
Few points:
- I was talking about David Silva (Manchester City) not David Villa. But good to know about Villa's RC anyway.
- I have Casillas Mundicromo RC. I will check the other one too.
- The book is in Catalan. I would be surprised if you find anything original from that period in English. Not sure about title (cover page missing) but it is a summary of every game they played within a 4 years period. Cool stuff![/QUOTE]

David Silva. David Villa. Ugh...how could I make such a simple mistake? You're right, though. That Silva card is his 2nd year card.

Could not agree more :)!

[QUOTE=Celticsfan748;15328525]Soccer cards are def worth money. Stock up on Messi and Ronaldo and hold.


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Just picked up a Sergio “Kun” Aguero 2006-07 Megacracks...It seems to be his RC, isn’t it?

Aguero has a sticker from 2004/05, at Independiente.

[url]https://cartophilic-info-exch.blogspot.com/2018/12/unknown-issuer-argentina-torneo.html[/url]

Lol I thought he could have a RC from Argentina but could not find anything online...still I guess the Megacracks has some value because it is his first year in Europe.

Been seeing a lot of activity/talk about Soccer cards growing on Instagram. Really surprised more Blowout members aren't talking about this. Been following prices of some of the younger kids and there is definitely an upswing in prices.

Maybe it's a good thing that the folks in the Basketball/Football/Baseball threads haven't jumped in on Soccer....still keeping it relatively cheap for me ;)

Aguero also has Panini issues from Argentina if you fancy something a bit more official, I have a Clausura 2005. He might have an Apertura from 2004 as well.

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I’ve been buying Rodrygo rcs. Love him.

[QUOTE=fadster;15389117]Aguero also has Panini issues from Argentina if you fancy something a bit more official, I have a Clausura 2005. He might have an Apertura from 2004 as well.

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191229/5d458d076dcfe01de76683f1e46f2362.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

These are some really nice ones, hard to come across some of these. I’m looking to pick up an Arturo Vidal from Bayern Leverkusen.

Yeah, that Lewandowski sticker is hard to find, and expensive when you find it.

[URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2870273-jadon-sancho-transfer-rumours-dortmund-adamant-star-will-not-leave-in-january"]They are saying Jadon will not transfer in January[/URL]. We'll see how this pans out, but if not, probably this summer he's going to.

[QUOTE=Prospectorsadvantage;15389132]I’ve been buying Rodrygo rcs. Love him.[/QUOTE]

What is his Rookie? I've yet to see a Topps or Panini rookie for him.

Rodrygo has a 2017 O'Globo sticker with Santos. He has a 2019 Panini Megacracks card and a 2019 Este sticker, both from Spain.

[QUOTE=AsianBrizz;15421188]Rodrygo has a 2017 O'Globo sticker with Santos. He has a 2019 Panini Megacracks card and a 2019 Este sticker, both from Spain.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. I agree, this kid is the real deal.

It's happening.....

[url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-18-Topps-Chrome-Champions-Gold-Refractor-Soccer-Kylian-Mbappe-RC-50-BGS-9/362873527187?hash=item547cf29b93:g:ilUAAOSwltVeE4ji[/url]

It was just a matter of time before we would see some of the new "investors" dipping their toes into soccer cards. Absolutely incredible to see this Mbappe sell for over $1,100 bucks :eek:

[QUOTE=GrangerCollectr;15441875]It's happening.....

[url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-18-Topps-Chrome-Champions-Gold-Refractor-Soccer-Kylian-Mbappe-RC-50-BGS-9/362873527187?hash=item547cf29b93:g:ilUAAOSwltVeE4ji[/url]

It was just a matter of time before we would see some of the new "investors" dipping their toes into soccer cards. Absolutely incredible to see this Mbappe sell for over $1,100 bucks :eek:[/QUOTE]

Some guys in instagram are pumping mbappes, not sure if its a genuine price. I can be wrong though.

[QUOTE=Raj3sh;15441915]Some guys in instagram are pumping mbappes, not sure if its a genuine price. I can be wrong though.[/QUOTE]

That means it's happening in soccer too....haha! We see the pumping all the time in baseball, basketball and football....nice to see it carry over to soccer now.

for a BGS 9 ?? not buying that this wasn't shilled.

The underbidder on the Mbappe has 3 feedback and has bid on 3 total items in the past 30 days.
He threw in an $1100 bid at a time when the high bid showing was just over $400 (the high bidder's max was $1000, but the 2nd bidder at the time was $401.71).
If you think the $1100 bid was real, I have a ski resort in Florida to sell you.

That's freaking bizarre, especially considering that Mbappe's rookie is from 2016.

I'm just excited that there is conversation happening in the Soccer forum....haha! It's always so dead over here.
Sell those ski resorts in Florida....just happy to have you post over here :)!

its strange that Topps Chrome Soccer is Hobby only

might be the only time its happened

[QUOTE=AsianBrizz;15442231]That's freaking bizarre, especially considering that Mbappe's rookie is from 2016.[/QUOTE]

Its one of his first high end product along with select. The hobby in america works that way, usually the first year high end cards of the player with limited number cards are going for high prices. Even though this is his second year product. I still believe these are pumped up by the usual suspects. They will dump it for profits and go for the next big thing to flip and make profit.

i agree. here in the states cards take preference over stickers

Long time follower of soccer but haven't bought too many cards yet. How do we feel about Mbappe's Prizm World Cup card #80? Appears to be steadily climbing. Obviously not his true rookie card, but given what he did in the tournament, that has to hold some weight going forward, right?

[QUOTE=bywayofvintage;15445737]Long time follower of soccer but haven't bought too many cards yet. How do we feel about Mbappe's Prizm World Cup card #80? Appears to be steadily climbing. Obviously not his true rookie card, but given what he did in the tournament, that has to hold some weight going forward, right?[/QUOTE]

As of now its 2016 panini foot rookie > 2017 panini select > 2017 Topps chrome > 2018 National treasures/Prizm/Fathers day

[QUOTE=bywayofvintage;15445737]Long time follower of soccer but haven't bought too many cards yet. How do we feel about Mbappe's Prizm World Cup card #80? Appears to be steadily climbing. Obviously not his true rookie card, but given what he did in the tournament, that has to hold some weight going forward, right?[/QUOTE]

Been watching his stuff for the last 6 months and all of his cards are making some pretty big moves. Was shocked to see his Prizm Silver break $100 last week (granted not his true rookie CARD). Some of the lower numbered Mbappe Prizm stuff sells for crazy money and don't see those coming down anytime soon.

Obviously his 2016 dual sticker is the main rookie of Mbappe that everyone wants but when we look at the other "rookie" CARDS it should be

2017/18 Select
2017/18 Topps Chrome
2017/18 Topps Museum
2018 National Treasures

I'll also throw in the 2018/19 Immaculate - as to my knowledge has his only jersey/relic card and he has no autographs....yet.

Thank you all for the information. I found a good deal on a sealed retail box of 18' Prizm World Cup. Hopefully get a few Mbappe cards.

[QUOTE=bywayofvintage;15446828]Thank you all for the information. I found a good deal on a sealed retail box of 18' Prizm World Cup. Hopefully get a few Mbappe cards.[/QUOTE]

Good Luck! I've yet to hop on the Mbappe train myself, but have been picking up plenty of other soccer over the past few years and just holding.. World Cup is coming up soon!! Some of these guys may pop then.

[QUOTE=IndySportsCards;15449901]Good Luck! I've yet to hop on the Mbappe train myself, but have been picking up plenty of other soccer over the past few years and just holding.. World Cup is coming up soon!! Some of these guys may pop then.[/QUOTE]


Thanks. Euro 2020 this summer too!

cant lie, its been fun learning about soccer cards

If I can give advice to anyone, it's invest in sealed Prizm WC the years it releases. It's not a huge print run and is always easy profit when it gets scarce.

On another note, I just sent off a Pulisic Donruss Debut to PSA last week. Hoping for a 10 :)