2019-20 Panini Chronicles Basketball- Pre-release Thread
 

I didn't know what to name this so I went with "pre-release thread" instead of "hype thread" because I don't want to make this that. But I'm more than ready for this stuff. I've been a fan since the initial release of the product back in 2017-18 season and I can't wait to see what Panini has in store for us this time around.

Last season this was by far my favorite product. I'd go as far as saying it was the NBA product of the summer, maybe the best summer time NBA release in years. Just my opinion.

It was so much fun when this stuff came out last summer, I noticed a lot more trading going on and even made a few fun trades myself. It was great for the hobby.

I'm very curious about the "prizm update" and "optic update" subsets. With optic, most of the rookies already have a Rated Rookie card in the standalone Optic release. So, will this be a vet based subset (traded players, players who didn't have a card in Optic like Melo, Christian Wood, etc, etc) or just different images of the rookies who already have Optic cards? Time will tell but I'm hoping it's the former..

Anyways.. Enough rambling by me. Who else is ready for this stuff? :)

Maybe Nunn will have earned the right to have his name on an updated Optic card.

Where is there any info on it?

Preselling someplace.

Set sounds confusing as hell this year. Are they just going to make a second Zion Optic and Prizm RC?

[QUOTE=KhalDrogo;15626326]Set sounds confusing as hell this year. Are they just going to make a second Zion Optic and Prizm RC?[/QUOTE]

Really hope not. It would be way cooler if they use those subsets for vets and rookies who didn't have cards in the standalone releases, and traded players. Would be great for team collectors seeing as how each team only has 5 non rookie cards in optic

Is there any information on this? Googled and found nothing.

[QUOTE=KhalDrogo;15626326]Set sounds confusing as hell this year. Are they just going to make a second Zion Optic and Prizm RC?[/QUOTE]

I'm guessing this will be the case.

And I'm sure short-term, those variation Optic and variation of the variation Prizm cards will sell.

I loved Chronicles last year. Bought way too much of it. Actually bought some more of it this week and it's being delivered today.

I'm excited about the Optic and Prizm cards in it this year, but it's just a straight money grab. The idea of Chronicles last year for Baseball and Basketball was to include any product that wasn't released for that sport. Really awesome idea. Now it seems like it's just a way to do a version 2 of whatever products sold really well.

I'll still be buying for sure though.

Who knows - maybe the Optic and Prizm RC will be a sweet new design and be great?

[quote] Key Selling Points:
2019-20 Chronicles Basketball presents an incredible selection of rookie content spread across numerous popular set designs from years past! Collect your favorite rookies and veteran players from around the league!

Find a wide array of rookie cards featuring Zion Williamson, Ja Morant, RJ Barrett, Rui Hachimura and more in 2019-20 Chronicles!

Fat Packs are the only place to find Score cards! Fat Packs are also the only place to find Bronze Parallels in Chronicles!

Find these new sets in Chronicles this year: Base Donruss Rated Rookie, Base XR, Base Recon, Base Threads, Base Prizm Update, Base Donruss Optic Traded, Base Hometown Heroes Optic and Base Flux!

Chase Autographs in the following retail exclusive parallels: Rookie Cornerstones Red, Limited Rookie Jersey Auto Red, Dress for Success Red, Hometown Heroes Auto Red, Apprentice Signatures Red, Hall of Fame Signatures Red, Airborne Signatures Red, Flux Rookie Auto Red and Flux Auto Red!

Fat Pack Exclusive Content: Base Score, Base Score Red (#d/149), Blue (#d/99), Purple (#d/49), Gold (#d/10), and Platinum (#d/1). Base Chronicles Bronze, Base Prestige Bronze, Base Threads Bronze, Base Panini Bronze, Base Luminance Bronze, Base Playbook Bronze, Base Donruss Rated Rookie Bronze, Base Essentials Bronze, Base Marquee Bronze, Base XR Bronze, Base Recon Bronze, Base Prizm Update Bronze, Base Donruss Optic Traded Bronze, Base Crusade Bronze, Base Hometown Heroes Optic Bronze, Base Phoenix Bronze, Base Flux Bronze.[/quote]

Looks like no Cornerstones Stand-alone this year in addition to Threads and Status. I don’t think anyone will shed a tear.

I preordered what I could : stuff is selling out fast especially hanger boxes

Panini finally getting on that update bandwagon. Can’t wait I got into chronicles late. Cards were nice. Can’t wait.

link to pre sell?

[QUOTE=allstarcomics;15626586]link to pre sell?[/QUOTE]

^ - This

no links to other sealed wax allowed in the forums. Instant banhammer.

Are they having hanger boxes again this year? I got in for 11 fat pack boxes last night. Couldn’t resist especially with the Zion/Ja craze. Looks like fat packs will have the bronze exclusives and blasters will have the pink.

Blasters, fat packs, or both?

[QUOTE=gomiamigo;15627434]no links to other sealed wax allowed in the forums. Instant banhammer.[/QUOTE]

Not to competitors, Walmart and Target seem to be ok

Pre-ordered some blasters and now it looks to be sold out...

What is MSRP?

Are all varieties sold out or am I not looking hard enough?

showing as sold out out of stock That was fast

What was their price per fat and blaster? That place tends to increase prices when they restock online.

think it was msrp 19.99 and 39.99 Likely they listed a small amount to test the waters

[QUOTE=allstarcomics;15628302]think it was msrp 19.99 and 39.99 Likely they listed a small amount to test the waters[/QUOTE]

Link?

[QUOTE=Spacemanspif;15627973]Not to competitors, Walmart and Target seem to be ok[/QUOTE]

Can we expect Walmart to have Chronicles available for pre-order at some point? I've seen pre-orders for various baseball and football cards at Walmart recently.

[QUOTE=BobCollects;15628477]Can we expect Walmart to have Chronicles available for pre-order at some point? I've seen pre-orders for various baseball and football cards at Walmart recently.[/QUOTE]

I would assume so but probably much closer to release date These arent out till July!

I love last years Chronicles so can't wait for this year's. I don't see Obsidian which would be a huge disappoinment as those were amazing last year.

[QUOTE=allstarcomics;15628302]think it was msrp 19.99 and 39.99 Likely they listed a small amount to test the waters[/QUOTE]

$20 on blasters and $60 on fat pack boxes should be MSRP. Order price from my retail distributor was $13 on blasters and $40 on fat pack boxes.

[QUOTE=Malsk;15628333]Link?[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.target.com/p/2019-panini-nba-chronicles-basketball-trading-card-blaster-box/-/A-54602970[/url]
[url]https://www.walmart.com/ip/Doncic-Trae-Rookie-Gold-Standard-Basketball-Autogrpahs-2019-Retail-Featuring-Exclusives-Blaster-Young-Luka-Jersey-Signatures-Box-Chronicles-card-On/425016069[/url]

[QUOTE=dgr81;15630075][url]https://www.target.com/p/2019-panini-nba-chronicles-basketball-trading-card-blaster-box/-/A-54602970[/url]
[url]https://www.walmart.com/ip/Doncic-Trae-Rookie-Gold-Standard-Basketball-Autogrpahs-2019-Retail-Featuring-Exclusives-Blaster-Young-Luka-Jersey-Signatures-Box-Chronicles-card-On/425016069[/url][/QUOTE]

Those are 2018-2019.

Oh #@#@#@#@ you’re right ��

If 2018/19 Fat Pack boxes are selling for $225-$250, I can only imagine what this years will sell for. Getting so many Zion and Ja in a single box is going to cost a fortune. I'm leaving hobby alone because those prices will be sky high like everything else this year.

[QUOTE=Jumpin Astros;15631587]If 2018/19 Fat Pack boxes are selling for $225-$250, I can only imagine what this years will sell for. Getting so many Zion and Ja in a single box is going to cost a fortune. I'm leaving hobby alone because those prices will be sky high like everything else this year.[/QUOTE]

A lot of those base RCs won’t be worth much. Look at prices for Luka’s good stuff (Prizm/Optic) vs his Chronicles base and base parallels (green, pink, etc.). Most of the latter can easily be had in the $3-$5 range. Having said that, I’m sure there will be third party retailers selling this stuff way higher than it’s worth. 18/19 fat pack boxes at $225-250 is insanity. You might pull 1 or 2 #’d cards in an entire box, the rest will be base and a few base parallels.

Here’s hoping I can actually find some of this in stores unlike Prizm and Optic. Maybe with the season over by the time this is released, some of the hype will die down and the vultures won’t be buying full trays on sight. I pre-ordered half a blaster case just to be sure I’ll be able to open something, because this was the most fun retail product to open last year.

They probably didn't make very many Fat Pack cases in 2018 because demand would have been super low for retail NBA stuff at the time retail distributors had to order Chronicles.

[QUOTE=Nitewind12;15629053]I love last years Chronicles so can't wait for this year's. I don't see Obsidian which would be a huge disappoinment as those were amazing last year.[/QUOTE]

If we don’t get an Obsidian set this year I will burn HQ to the ground.

Chronicles is super fun to break, at msrp, its a no brainer. the cards sell very well in psa 10

Couldn't find the link anywhere via google, bing, or altavista.

Congrats to those that got in.

[QUOTE=ninjacookies;15631681]Couldn't find the link anywhere via google, bing, or altavista.



Congrats to those that got in.[/QUOTE]



Same, couldn’t find anything


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Info should start showing up on sites shortly. Especially if distributors are selling it.

[QUOTE=bigjbasketball;15631602]A lot of those base RCs won’t be worth much. Look at prices for Luka’s good stuff (Prizm/Optic) vs his Chronicles base and base parallels (green, pink, etc.). Most of the latter can easily be had in the $3-$5 range. Having said that, I’m sure there will be third party retailers selling this stuff way higher than it’s worth. 18/19 fat pack boxes at $225-250 is insanity. You might pull 1 or 2 #’d cards in an entire box, the rest will be base and a few base parallels.

Here’s hoping I can actually find some of this in stores unlike Prizm and Optic. Maybe with the season over by the time this is released, some of the hype will die down and the vultures won’t be buying full trays on sight. I pre-ordered half a blaster case just to be sure I’ll be able to open something, because this was the most fun retail product to open last year.[/QUOTE]

I thought the same thing about Luka's chronicles cards before doing a search last night... Some of the cards are actually selling in the $25-30 range especially the chrome and holofoils... I was pleasantly surprised to see the Panini branded ones selling for $10.

Optic + Prizm update inclusions should make this set a winner this year, even if production jumped. Both of my retail distributors had to shut down orders and cut people they sold out of their allocations so fast, but obviously no idea how accurate or how much is going to the big box stores vs the smaller retail distributors.

Definitely a set to look forward to though, and hopefully the hobby solicitation can shed a bit more light on the new additions for the year.

It's popping up online for presale.

[QUOTE=theleica;15632643]It's popping up online for presale.[/QUOTE]

link? I havent seen any

How many Zion and Ja should we expect to pull per fat pack box this year, if similar to last years?

[QUOTE=ninjacookies;15631681]Couldn't find the link anywhere via google, bing, or altavista.

Congrats to those that got in.[/QUOTE]

Ask Jeeves bruh.

I heard he’s working for excel now anyway.

I fully expect prices to near last years at least. I love this product. Zions are going to be flying out left and right.

If prizm update has RCs look out.

[QUOTE=ThePackLife;15632608]I thought the same thing about Luka's chronicles cards before doing a search last night... Some of the cards are actually selling in the $25-30 range especially the chrome and holofoils... I was pleasantly surprised to see the Panini branded ones selling for $10.[/QUOTE]

Wow, they must be jumping up along with everything else! I had a Luka Chronicles Playoff Green parallel that I had listed for weeks at $4.75 and nobody was buying it. The better looking cards (Chronicles base holofoil, Crusade, Phoenix, etc.) definitely go for more but those are harder to hit. You might get one of those in each fat pack and 2-3 per blaster.

I just pre-ordered 2 fat pack boxes as well today, so I think I'm good just incase I can't find any in stores. I'd like to find some hanger boxes as well. I hope this isn't retail-only and they do a hobby box as well, because those were a ton of fun to rip last year too with two autos per box and a ton of low #'d rookie cards.

I won't miss Cornerstones as a stand-alone product, but I really hope they have the quad patch Cornerstone RPAs in hobby boxes of Chronicles, because I always thought those were some of the best and most undervalued RPAs that Panini puts out.

[QUOTE=bigjbasketball;15632808]Wow, they must be jumping up along with everything else! I had a Luka Chronicles Playoff Green parallel that I had listed for weeks at $4.75 and nobody was buying it. The better looking cards (Chronicles base holofoil, Crusade, Phoenix, etc.) definitely go for more but those are harder to hit. You might get one of those in each fat pack and 2-3 per blaster.

I just pre-ordered 2 fat pack boxes as well today, so I think I'm good just incase I can't find any in stores. I'd like to find some hanger boxes as well. I hope this isn't retail-only and they do a hobby box as well, because those were a ton of fun to rip last year too with two autos per box and a ton of low #'d rookie cards.

I won't miss Cornerstones as a stand-alone product, but I really hope they have the quad patch Cornerstone RPAs in hobby boxes of Chronicles, because I always thought those were some of the best and most undervalued RPAs that Panini puts out.[/QUOTE]

Preordeing is definitely the move. If hoops and base donruss consistently sells out then Chronicles is a no brainer.

Anyone remember what SRP on a fat pack was last year?

[QUOTE=Sticks33;15632939]Anyone remember what SRP on a fat pack was last year?[/QUOTE]

$6 or $7

[QUOTE=The Accountant;15632950]$6 or $7[/QUOTE]

Yikes, so presale prices are double retail...I guess I'll pass.

[QUOTE=Sticks33;15633018]Yikes, so presale prices are double retail...I guess I'll pass.[/QUOTE]

You're seeing presale prices in the $150 range for fat pack boxes? That would be a hard pass for me. I love Chronicles, but I don't love it that much.

Why do you guys love the fat packs over the blasters? Just curious because I haven't ever pulled anything great from fat packs.

[QUOTE=theleica;15633222]Why do you guys love the fat packs over the blasters? Just curious because I haven't ever pulled anything great from fat packs.[/QUOTE]

Sealed fat pack boxes are a rarity in comparison. Blaster will be the most common find, besides maybe hanger boxes.

[QUOTE=The Accountant;15633240]Sealed fat pack boxes are a rarity in comparison. Blaster will be the most common find, besides maybe hanger boxes.[/QUOTE]

Ahh. Just pre-ordered a case of fat packs for $864 ($72 box). Ordered a few cases of blasters earlier. I love Chronicles.

[QUOTE=theleica;15633262]Ahh. Just pre-ordered a case of fat packs for $864 ($72 box). Ordered a few cases of blasters earlier. I love Chronicles.[/QUOTE]

Have no idea where you would pre-order that. I've looked and looked and can't find it via search...

[QUOTE=Sticks33;15633352]Have no idea where you would pre-order that. I've looked and looked and can't find it via search...[/QUOTE]

I'll take a pallet full at that price

[QUOTE=allstarcomics;15633374]I'll take a pallet full at that price[/QUOTE]

I got a case too, they sell out fast

Just bought 10 cello boxes. Good looking out, BO fam.

doesn't seem to be any links;)

Picked up a few fat pack boxes which are sold out now. Gonna hold off on the blasters and hope I can get some from Wallyworld or Target

Waiting 3 months for them to be delivered but its a bargain unless the market crashes before then. even with basketball winding down, these will be going strong.

Grabbed a blaster case above retail. $500 for a blaster case doesn't seem like a bad deal.

Between that and my $1,200 in Mosaic retail coming in, I'm pretty set for the year.

[QUOTE=BackToWax;15633487]Grabbed a blaster case above retail. $500 for a blaster case doesn't seem like a bad deal.

Between that and my $1,200 in Mosaic retail coming in, I'm pretty set for the year.[/QUOTE]

$500 will end up being a steal imo. Just have to hold up your money for 3 months.

The blasters might possibly be one of my favorite products to open. Bought a few just to rip, even at above MSRP.

[QUOTE=The Accountant;15633540]$500 will end up being a steal imo. Just have to hold up your money for 3 months.[/QUOTE]

Or more. They've had my Optic money since 10/29. Doesn't seem like it'll come through but they're making everyone hold out hope

If anyone has a link to where I can order any format at or slightly above MSRP, please pm me :)

[QUOTE=bigjbasketball;15633207]You're seeing presale prices in the [B]$150 range for fat pack boxes? That would be a hard pass for me.[/B] I love Chronicles, but I don't love it that much.[/QUOTE]



ditto for me. I'll take my chances at finding some in the wild.

[QUOTE=Spacemanspif;15633596]Or more. They've had my Optic money since 10/29. Doesn't seem like it'll come through but they're making everyone hold out hope[/QUOTE]

They never shipped your Optic order? Any reason why?

Really looking forward to Chronicles.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/24geMKvm.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Yaga;15633617]They never shipped your Optic order? Any reason why?[/QUOTE]

blaming it on distro. communication has been horrible. people have said they've received other products, but Prizm and Optic I don't know how many people have actually had orders fulfilled

[QUOTE=Spacemanspif;15633596]Or more. They've had my Optic money since 10/29. Doesn't seem like it'll come through but they're making everyone hold out hope[/QUOTE]

This doesn't make me feel comfortable. Made a handful of orders with them and will be waiting for months.

[QUOTE=Spacemanspif;15633627]blaming it on distro. communication has been horrible. people have said they've received other products, but Prizm and Optic I don't know how many people have actually had orders fulfilled[/QUOTE]

which reseller?

is ToyWiz.com reputable?

[QUOTE=theleica;15633222]Why do you guys love the fat packs over the blasters? Just curious because I haven't ever pulled anything great from fat packs.[/QUOTE]

Fat packs are also the only place to pull the numbered bronze parallels, if I remember correctly.

If there is no standalone Cornerstones this year does this mean no more "Downtown" Inserts? I love those things. Hobby Chronicles maybe?