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FarmchairQB 02-20-2021 07:18 PM

The Erling Haaland Thread
 
Feels like Erling Haaland is overdue for his own appreciation thread. This man child is dominating the Champions League and Bundesliga like nobody before him, and scoring video game goals like every other day.

Any Haaland collectors want share some pics of your collection? Thoughts on his best RCs? Fun articles/highlights?

Or Mbappe fans want to throw some shade? :flex:

benz35 02-20-2021 07:29 PM

glad to pickup a sapphire of his

FarmchairQB 02-20-2021 07:53 PM

[QUOTE=benz35;17020935]glad to pickup a sapphire of his[/QUOTE]

Nice. Do you think Sapphire will end up being his hallmark RC, or Bundesliga? I suppose there's room for multiple cards at the top of the pecking order...

Anish 02-20-2021 08:07 PM

Great goal scorer but also great feet for a big guy. Reminds me of Zlatan

I like his Immaculate RC best because of the photo

Gin&Juice 02-20-2021 08:56 PM

There is no arguing with Haaland's production, and I'm sure someone will show me his goal today to counter my point, but everytime I watch him I think of a moose learning to run. Not really doing him justice, but I kind of think of Haaland as Peter Crouch on steroids.

IndySportsCards 02-20-2021 08:58 PM

[QUOTE=FarmchairQB;17021023]Nice. Do you think Sapphire will end up being his hallmark RC, or Bundesliga? I suppose there's room for multiple cards at the top of the pecking order...[/QUOTE]

His Fussball Sticker and/or Finest Rookie (in Salsburg Kit) will be the go to card for collectors IMHO.

That goal today was insane, his first one. Amazing in the air kick. 1:40 min mark

[youtube]8Ji9dDSDkMY[/youtube]

FarmchairQB 02-20-2021 09:18 PM

[QUOTE=Gin&Juice;17021239]There is no arguing with Haaland's production, and I'm sure someone will show me his goal today to counter my point, but everytime I watch him I think of a moose learning to run. Not really doing him justice, but I kind of think of Haaland as Peter Crouch on steroids.[/QUOTE]

I see what you mean...I think the Basketball analogy is Luka Doncic :D

Gin&Juice 02-20-2021 09:24 PM

[QUOTE=FarmchairQB;17021298]I see what you mean...I think the Basketball analogy is Luka Doncic :D[/QUOTE]

That's a good analogy. And, I suppose, people said the same thing about Tom Brady, too.

bobbycass 02-20-2021 09:41 PM

[QUOTE=IndySportsCards;17021243]His Fussball Sticker and/or Finest Rookie (in Salsburg Kit) will be the go to card for collectors IMHO.

That goal today was insane, his first one. Amazing in the air kick. 1:40 min mark
[/QUOTE]

That black back, dark ink one has been over printed. There must be 10s of 1000s of them at this stage. The lighter, first print will become the must have card. I wonder if PSA or the rest of them will start acknowledging the different print runs.

dream34 02-20-2021 09:53 PM

He has a lot of options but I think it will end up being the Sapphire with the RC Logo

burke23 02-20-2021 10:15 PM

How is the Topps Now 2019 CL perceived now that we have some other releases out? Seems to sell well yet. Wishing I had held onto my psa 10 BL Topps Chrome Gold a few more weeks :(

Raj3sh 02-20-2021 11:54 PM

Topps Now 2019 is his first card, limited to 178. extremely hard to find now.

Then the sticker ( first version)

Saphire is a second/third year card (2021) .

Ucat 02-20-2021 11:58 PM

I have a bunch of Haalands being graded right now, but after watching the game today I knew these were all sitting at my LCS and had to go grab them, traded a bunch of Trae Young stuff for them.

[url=https://flic.kr/p/2kDwbh8][img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50964069423_9cc76afa24_o.jpg[/img][/url]

IndySportsCards 02-21-2021 12:15 AM

[QUOTE=bobbycass;17021367]That black back, dark ink one has been over printed. There must be 10s of 1000s of them at this stage. The lighter, first print will become the must have card. I wonder if PSA or the rest of them will start acknowledging the different print runs.[/QUOTE]

You've got it backwards. The darker background were the [URL="https://youtu.be/YNotfAT5S9g?t=104"]1st prints found in packs[/URL], the lighter background are the 2nd prints.

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 12:22 AM

[QUOTE=Raj3sh;17021749]Topps Now 2019 is his first card, limited to 178. extremely hard to find now.

Then the sticker ( first version)

Saphire is a second/third year card (2021) .[/QUOTE]

I see two #11s listed on eBay right now...

One for $50,000, and one for $57,000! :eek:

Raj3sh 02-21-2021 12:28 AM

[QUOTE=mwheeler27;17021811]I see two #11s listed on eBay right now...

One for $50,000, and one for $57,000! :eek:[/QUOTE]

They are extremely hard to find now. So maybe thats the reason. but those prices are insane :D.

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 01:20 AM

So if I have 20 of them, am I finally a millionaire? :eek:

Raj3sh 02-21-2021 01:52 AM

[QUOTE=mwheeler27;17021895]So if I have 20 of them, am I finally a millionaire? :eek:[/QUOTE]

YES :D. You are

i am not kidding. This is his first ever card, if he makes it this is going to be his iconic card.

orion9578 02-21-2021 01:53 AM

[QUOTE=Raj3sh;17021749]Topps Now 2019 is his first card, limited to 178. extremely hard to find now.

Then the sticker ( first version)

[b]Saphire is a second/third year card (2021)[/b] .[/QUOTE]

The masses, meaning how value will be judged, will never see it like that my friend. Look a few posts up and see what the PSA label says on the Sapphire. 2019.

Purists will likely be after some of the other cards mentioned(Now, Finest etc.), but as long as that red and white label says 2019, that'll be all that'll matter(not saying it'll be his most valuable card...I tend to think that'll be his bund as far as mass produced goes).

Raj3sh 02-21-2021 01:58 AM

[QUOTE=orion9578;17021923]The masses, meaning how value will be judged, will never see it like that my friend. Look a few posts up and see what the PSA label says on the Sapphire. 2019.

Purists will likely be after some of the other cards mentioned(Now, Finest etc.), but as long as that red and white label says 2019, that'll be all that'll matter(not saying it'll be his most valuable card...I tend to think that'll be his bund as far as mass produced goes).[/QUOTE]

If the label says 2019, then thats stupid of PSA, the card is released in 2021.

Cant believe this stupidity.

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 01:58 AM

[QUOTE=Raj3sh;17021919]YES :D. You are

i am not kidding. This is his first ever card, if he makes it this is going to be his iconic card.[/QUOTE]

:flex:

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 01:59 AM

[QUOTE=orion9578;17021923]The masses, meaning how value will be judged, will never see it like that my friend. Look a few posts up and see what the PSA label says on the Sapphire. 2019.

Purists will likely be after some of the other cards mentioned(Now, Finest etc.), but as long as that red and white label says 2019, that'll be all that'll matter(not saying it'll be his most valuable card...I tend to think that'll be his bund as far as mass produced goes).[/QUOTE]

I don’t see a Sapphire label that says 2021.

Raj3sh 02-21-2021 02:00 AM

Also if lebron played for another NBA team prior to cavs, do the masses still take the second teams card?

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 02:02 AM

This card is already iconic. Just look at it.

[url]https://www.topps.com/wonderkid-hits-hat-trick-uefa-champions-league-topps-now-11.html[/url]

:flex:

I think it will be THE one.

orion9578 02-21-2021 02:03 AM

[QUOTE=mwheeler27;17021935]I don’t see a Sapphire label that says 2021.[/QUOTE]

Hrm? Raj3sh said it was a 2021 card. I said the PSA label says it's a 2019 card(even though it came out at the end of 2020...). Was just letting him know that the red & white says 2019, that's what the masses will follow. :)!

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 02:04 AM

And it’s an error card!

He was so unheard of...they spelled his name wrong. :eek:

[url]https://www.topps.com/wonderkid-hits-hat-trick-uefa-champions-league-topps-now-11.html[/url]

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 02:05 AM

[QUOTE=orion9578;17021941]Hrm? Raj3sh said it was a 2021 card. I said the PSA label says it's a 2019 card(even though it came out at the end of 2020...). Was just letting him know that the red & white says 2019, that's what the masses will follow. :)![/QUOTE]

What “red & white”?

Raj3sh 02-21-2021 02:07 AM

[QUOTE=mwheeler27;17021945]What “red & white”?[/QUOTE]

I think he means PSA color

FarmchairQB 02-21-2021 02:09 AM

[QUOTE=Raj3sh;17021936]Also if lebron played for another NBA team prior to cavs, do the masses still take the second teams card?[/QUOTE]

Probably not. But if Lebron played for another team in a different, lesser league, the masses very well could take the second team's card :)!

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 02:10 AM

[QUOTE=Raj3sh;17021946]I think he means PSA color[/QUOTE]

I thought so too, but I don’t see a Sapphire card with a PSA label that says 2019 on it. :confused:

orion9578 02-21-2021 02:14 AM

[QUOTE=mwheeler27;17021949]I thought so too, but I don’t see a Sapphire card with a PSA label that says 2019 on it. :confused:[/QUOTE]

Haha. Drinking? :)

I was being cryptic for no real reason. Yes, red & white label was referring to PSA label.

If you look on the front page of this thread, you'll see a 2019 Sapphire Haaland card graded by PSA. He'd stated it was a 2021 card. My reply was once PSA labeled it a 2019 card(Topps does too by the way), that it is a 2019 card. Really feel like I'm over explaining or you guys are messing with me. :D

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 02:18 AM

[QUOTE=orion9578;17021953]Haha. Drinking? :)

I was being cryptic for no real reason. Yes, red & white label was referring to PSA label.

If you look on the front page of this thread, you'll see a 2019 Sapphire Haaland card graded by PSA. He'd stated it was a 2021 card. My reply was once PSA labeled it a 2019 card(Topps does too by the way), that it is a 2019 card. Really feel like I'm over explaining or you guys are messing with me. :D[/QUOTE]

Not drinking, but I must be drunk since I can’t see any Sapphire card on the first page of this thread, or anywhere else in this thread.

Can you give me a post # please?

Raj3sh 02-21-2021 02:18 AM

[QUOTE=FarmchairQB;17021947]Probably not. But if Lebron played for another team in a different, lesser league, the masses very well could take the second team's card :)![/QUOTE]

Cristiano Ronaldo’s rookie is his 2002 card from sporting lisbon, not the Upper Deck manchester united 2003 card, the lesser league never mattered there.

The same can be said about for a lot of other players

orion9578 02-21-2021 02:23 AM

[QUOTE=mwheeler27;17021954]Not drinking, but I must be drunk since I can’t see any Sapphire card on the first page of this thread, or anywhere else in this thread.

Can you give me a post # please?[/QUOTE]

#13 :)

Edit. Perhaps I'M THE ONE who's drinking. That's his Bund. Hahahaha

Here nor there that I can't see(I'm old), his Sapphire is labeled as 2019 by PSA as well.

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 02:24 AM

[QUOTE=orion9578;17021959]#13 :)[/QUOTE]

Those aren’t Sapphire.

orion9578 02-21-2021 02:26 AM

[QUOTE=mwheeler27;17021963]Those aren’t Sapphire.[/QUOTE]

I edited while you were replying. I'm old. That'll be my explanation.

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 02:28 AM

[QUOTE=orion9578;17021965]I edited while you were replying. I'm old. That'll be my explanation.[/QUOTE]

;) No worries.

I see the Sapphire labels also say 2019, even though they were released in late 2020...OVER a year after his true rookie card in September of 2019.

Raj3sh 02-21-2021 02:29 AM

[QUOTE=orion9578;17021965]I edited while you were replying. I'm old. That'll be my explanation.[/QUOTE]

Nopes you are correct, i can see many saphire cards in ebay with 2019 labelling, PSA at its worst

dream34 02-21-2021 02:29 AM

[QUOTE=Raj3sh;17021749]Topps Now 2019 is his first card, limited to 178. extremely hard to find now.

Then the sticker ( first version)

Saphire is a second/third year card [B](2021)[/B] .[/QUOTE]

Look these guys got it before Topps released it! :cry:

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/8WsfRHE.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Raj3sh;17021933]If the label says 2019, then thats stupid of PSA, the card is released in 2021.

[B]Cant believe this stupidity.[/B][/QUOTE]

Me either!

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 02:31 AM

[QUOTE=Raj3sh;17021969]Nopes you are correct, i can see many saphire cards in ebay with 2019 labelling, PSA at its worst[/QUOTE]

It won’t matter “much”.

The true collectors with the deepest pockets will want the one that came first and over a year earlier.

Plus, the scene is far superior.

orion9578 02-21-2021 02:36 AM

[QUOTE=mwheeler27;17021974]It won’t matter “much”.

The true collectors with the deepest pockets will want the one that came first and over a year earlier.

Plus, the scene is far superior.[/QUOTE]

Bets on it not mattering much? :)

Same Photo. RC logo. Shiny. It'll matter. Haha.

Raj3sh 02-21-2021 02:39 AM

[QUOTE=Raj3sh;17021956]Cristiano Ronaldo’s rookie is his 2002 card from sporting lisbon, not the Upper Deck manchester united 2003 card, the lesser league never mattered there.

The same can be said about for a lot of other players[/QUOTE]

I remember the same happening for ronaldo, but it was short lived, in the end the sporting card took over.

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 02:42 AM

[QUOTE=orion9578;17021979]Bets on it not mattering much? :)

Same Photo. RC logo. Shiny. It'll matter. Haha.[/QUOTE]

Okay...stop drinking. LOL

It’s not the same photo. Not even close.

When you’re sober, we can discuss bets. ;)

orion9578 02-21-2021 02:50 AM

[QUOTE=mwheeler27;17021986]Okay...stop drinking. LOL

It’s not the same photo. Not even close.

When you’re sober, we can discuss bets. ;)[/QUOTE]

Haha. As the Chrome. Not Bund.

My point can be made using basketball. Flawless came out in Dec(2020). Eminence in Jan(2021). All PSA labels will say 2019 Flawless, 2019 Eminence.

So my larger point is, the Sapphire, Bund, Finest and Now...will all be labeled as 2019. I think that'll make a lot of difference going foward.

PS. I need to sleep. I'm starting to confuse myself.

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 02:52 AM

[QUOTE=orion9578;17021996]Haha. As the Chrome. Not Bund.

My point can be made using basketball. Flawless came out in Dec(2020). Eminence in Jan(2021). All PSA labels will say 2019 Flawless, 2019 Eminence.

So my larger point is, the Sapphire, Bund, Finest and Now...will all be labeled as 2019. I think that'll make a lot of difference going foward.

PS. I need to sleep. I'm starting to confuse myself.[/QUOTE]

It’s all good. :)!

Sleep well.

FarmchairQB 02-21-2021 03:16 AM

[QUOTE=Raj3sh;17021956]Cristiano Ronaldo’s rookie is his 2002 card from sporting lisbon, not the Upper Deck manchester united 2003 card, the lesser league never mattered there.

The same can be said about for a lot of other players[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I was mostly alluding to how the Lebron metaphor kind of breaks down because there's only one premier basketball league. A better illustration of that is Luka, who played professionally before the NBA and has cards from those teams but his most valuable rookie cards are obviously with the Mavs.

But yeah, I agree that like CR7 people usually look to the first team, even if it's relatively unknown. The market is a bit different now - with all these product lines fighting tooth and nail for the RC label - so it'll be interesting to see what the hobby rallies around.

bobbycass 02-21-2021 03:56 AM

[QUOTE=IndySportsCards;17021801]You've got it backwards. The darker background were the [URL="https://youtu.be/YNotfAT5S9g?t=104"]1st prints found in packs[/URL], the lighter background are the 2nd prints.[/QUOTE]

Nah, man take a look at that. That Haaland is the lighter print. The darker print is black. That sticker in the video is grey. The second print came out a lot darker than that. I opened a few of the first boxes and took out 3 Haaland. I then ordered directly from Panini later on and got the darker print.

Archangel1775 02-21-2021 03:58 AM

[QUOTE=mwheeler27;17021895]So if I have 20 of them, am I finally a millionaire? :eek:[/QUOTE]

No, you make terrible investments. :) ;)

Dizz86 02-21-2021 04:01 AM

-how can be topps now CL (wonder kid) /178 considered as 'lesser league', when it is 'Champions league set'. (stop being retarded)
-some people act like (first pack pulled cards are the ones..). I don't see this logic in any of Pele's, Cruyff's, Figo, Beckham's,... true rookies.
-Sapphire is not a rookie. Understandable, that Topps wnat it to be rookie season card, and also PSA wants that, so people would send it to them and they can earn money. Many cards are mislabeled, and even there was some critical mass at the begining, those cards are now not being so popular, as more and more people learns the truth. (Messi Traditions, Beckham Raven,...

Not many knows, that Champions league will change its format in 2023.
THere will be 8 teams groups it will mean not 6 games in group stage, but 14. (CL games also on weekends). Playoff will be the same as now. This simply gives Haland another 8 CL matches each year to improve his scoring record. At least 4 of those added 8 games will be against weaker teams.
At the end of his career he will surpass Messi and Ronaldo in CL goals scored.

Archangel1775 02-21-2021 04:10 AM

I was under the impression that all Topps Chrome sets including Sapphire were severely delayed in 2020 due to Covid. Not sure exactly what step in the production cycle but it definitely effected it. I do believe the Topps Now card will have a niche following for super collectors but the go to card will be the Topps Chrome Sapphire card. There is brand legacy, it was widely released and it's Sapphire. You can thank MLB's Acuna and Tatis Jr. for that. I understand certain collectors will hold the Topps Now card in high regard but there isn't one player in any sport that a "Now" card is #1. Haaland wont change that. Another significant reason it wont is that the print run actually goes against it. There just aren't enough to change hands consistently.

dream34 02-21-2021 04:17 AM

[QUOTE=Archangel1775;17022044]I was under the impression that all Topps Chrome sets including Sapphire were severely delayed in 2020 due to Covid. Not sure exactly what step in the production cycle but it definitely effected it. I do believe the Topps Now card will have a niche following for super collectors but the go to card will be the Topps Chrome Sapphire card. There is brand legacy, it was widely released and it's Sapphire. You can thank MLB's Acuna and Tatis Jr. for that. I understand certain collectors will hold the Topps Now card in high regard but there isn't one player in any sport that a "Now" card is #1. Haaland wont change that. Another significant reason it wont is that the print run actually goes against it. There just aren't enough to change hands consistently.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. I don't see many clamoring and dishing out huge money for Mbappe's World Cup Panini Instant cards despite their miniscule print runs. Supercollectors will always want and cherish them but the masses and dollars will normally flow to a mainstream release, and when it's a available a Chrome release.

Raj3sh 02-21-2021 04:19 AM

[QUOTE=Archangel1775;17022044]I was under the impression that all Topps Chrome sets including Sapphire were severely delayed in 2020 due to Covid. Not sure exactly what step in the production cycle but it definitely effected it. I do believe the Topps Now card will have a niche following for super collectors but the go to card will be the Topps Chrome Sapphire card. There is brand legacy, it was widely released and it's Sapphire. You can thank MLB's Acuna and Tatis Jr. for that. I understand certain collectors will hold the Topps Now card in high regard but there isn't one player in any sport that a "Now" card is #1. Haaland wont change that. Another significant reason it wont is that the print run actually goes against it. There just aren't enough to change hands consistently.[/QUOTE]

A second season card can never be a rookie. Saphire is released at the end of dec 2020. There are a ton of other sets prior to it.

Raj3sh 02-21-2021 04:21 AM

[QUOTE=dream34;17022045]Exactly. I don't see many clamoring and dishing out huge money for Mbappe's World Cup Panini Instant cards despite their miniscule print runs. Supercollectors will always want and cherish them but the masses and dollars will normally flow to a mainstream release, and when it's a available a Chrome release.[/QUOTE]

Because mbappes topps now is from 2018, his second/third season too. If he had a topps now from 2016, it would have been a different story.

Archangel1775 02-21-2021 04:23 AM

[QUOTE=dream34;17022045]Exactly. I don't see many clamoring and dishing out huge money for Mbappe's World Cup Panini Instant cards despite their miniscule print runs. Supercollectors will always want and cherish them but[B] the masses and dollars will normally flow to a mainstream release, and when it's a available a Chrome release.[/B][/QUOTE]

Especially with the popularity of websites like StockX and StarStock. Again, the Topps Now card is an incredible card and a must own for super collectors but the Sapphire is #1.

Dizz86 02-21-2021 04:24 AM

real release day should matter. What if Panini now releases PRIZM La Liga 2004 as a delayed product. (might be some licencing issue, as usually licences have expiration..) but still possible.

That Topps Now (wonder kid) /178 card has a advantage, that Fati has same one (higher print volume) from the same day.
Fati and Haland might be top5 players for the next decade and if somebody will have one of those cards, he might have also to own another one, similarly looking card from the same set. In my eyes both true-rookies.

Archangel1775 02-21-2021 04:36 AM

Another consideration is that Topps started describing their Chrome releases back in 2017 using the two year system, so
2017/18
[img]https://i.imgur.com/gV9qxaHm.jpg[/img]

2018/19
[img]https://i.imgur.com/282LSmQm.jpg[/img]

2019/20
[img]https://i.imgur.com/pauQnKRm.jpg[/img]

Panini did as well. So it wasn't just regulated to Sapphire. There are many instances where production was delayed and the product was released later in the year or beginning of the new year.

Archangel1775 02-21-2021 04:41 AM

[QUOTE=Dizz86;17022049]real release day should matter. What if Panini now releases PRIZM La Liga 2004 as a delayed product. (might be some licencing issue, as usually licences have expiration..) but still possible.

That Topps Now (wonder kid) /178 card has a advantage, that Fati has same one (higher print volume) from the same day.
Fati and Haland might be top5 players for the next decade and if somebody will have one of those cards, he might have also to own another one, similarly looking card from the same set. [B]In my eyes both true-rookies.[/B][/QUOTE]

That the great thing about the hobby, collect what you like. Did you know that baseball players have minor league card issues years prior to their Topps Rookie card? In basketball, from 1983-1985,Star released cards via bagged team sets that lag way behind their 1986 Fleer counterparts? People still collect both but the masses agreed that 1986 Fleer were the true rookie cards and showed with their wallets. The Star cards were given the designation of XRC by the very influential Beckett

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 08:17 AM

[QUOTE=Archangel1775;17022054]That the great thing about the hobby, collect what you like. Did you know that baseball players have minor league card issues years prior to their Topps Rookie card? In basketball, from 1983-1985,Star released cards via bagged team sets that lag way behind their 1986 Fleer counterparts? People still collect both but the masses agreed that 1986 Fleer were the true rookie cards and showed with their wallets. The Star cards were given the designation of XRC by the very influential Beckett[/QUOTE]

Is Beckett going to give “The Wonder Kid” an XRC designation or an RC designation. :)

Elemin8 02-21-2021 09:16 AM

I think that soccer is so new that it will be interesting to see where the market takes it cause it doesn’t seem to conform to the other sports. For instance maybe the Topps Now becomes the de facto RC for Haaland but does it set a precedent going forward? In baseball for instance does a Topps now card of a draft pick being selected become more desirable than his bowman draft card because it comes one year ahead of that release? Or does the Topps now become a first card and the one with the RC logo become his first RC like baseball? Also a side question did Euroset Haaland come out before Topps Now and if so is that considered his first card? I wish it was so simplistic as 1st card (online/pack pulled) 1st sticker 1st RC 1st Pack Pulled but it’s not in soccer so maybe Haaland will help straighten this out as he seems to be the one potential star that falls into all this categories

brewtown107 02-21-2021 09:35 AM

I don't own any Haaland cards at all, so no dog in this fight. But it seems to me that if he becomes the big thing, his RC situation could mirror Lebron's to some degree. The Topps Chrome/Sapphire being the top RC "for the masses" and the very limited Topps Now being somewhat equivalent to the Exquisite RPA "for the few".

In this case, both are winners... no need to argue! Collect what you like!

YayNJ 02-21-2021 09:58 AM

Greed dictates that his "sapphire" will be his goto RC, nothing else.

In reality, it's nowhere near his RC, his Topps Crystal precedes it by over a year (?) and he's in his Salzburg kit.

I don't really count NOW releases.

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 10:28 AM

[QUOTE=YayNJ;17022395]Greed dictates that his "sapphire" will be his goto RC, nothing else.

In reality, it's nowhere near his RC, his Topps Crystal precedes it by over a year (?) and he's in his Salzburg kit.

[B]I don't really count NOW releases.[/B][/QUOTE]

Just a very few short years ago, this hobby was absolutely plum full of people saying they don’t count online exclusive releases as being popular or even cared about. “Sapphire will never be collectible because it’s not available or offered to the masses”.

Well, pretty much one player absolutely demolished that way of thinking. Absolutely, unequivocally demolished it.

I won’t be caught sitting out on the sidelines, (or worse yet...in the stands), when high quality NOW cards earn their rightful place in this hobby.

All one has to do is quickly take a peak at its growing popularity. What’s going to happen is right there in front of us for all to see. People can deny it all they want, but they’re not going to stop NOW from growing in popularity like they were never going to stop Sapphire, et al...though try as they may.

Ianhatcher 02-21-2021 10:43 AM

I'm not a fan of any of the Topps Now cards or anything where you buy the card directly from Topps site no matter how low the print run. It's just not what cards are about imo as you buy packs and open them in hopes of getting a card you want but if people collect them and want to shell out big money more power to you. It's just not for me at all and I'd equate it to some promo card.

I'm so tired of people on this forum "telling" others how it is regarding how a RC designation should be especially when they call a sticker a card....That always makes me laugh. Panini was still printing Basketball for 19/20 up until late last year with NBA Hoops Premium Stock releasing in December so are all those Zion and Ja cards not rookies now? Ridiculous that the release date should matter in any way.

For me the Salzburg is highly collectible due to the only main stream card in that kit and it is a tough grade. The Dortmund extended SP from that set is really slept on as well as it is a tough pull at I think it was 2 of those cards per case so 1 in 7 cases with 14 cards in the extended set. Bundesliga for it's very short print run as a set is also a highly collectible card. Regular Chrome is a great mid-tier priced main release and of course the Sapphire which I think is THE go to RC for Haaland. I have a lot of all of them so really doesn't matter to me what the value is, I like them all but my favorite is the Sapphire.

So really there is something for everyone with Haaland if you want to collect him but you are going to have people try and push their agenda on what should have value though.

People just need to get over trying to tell the Americans how we view RCs. This is how we collect and it's not changing.

IndySportsCards 02-21-2021 10:57 AM

[QUOTE=bobbycass;17022037]Nah, man take a look at that. That Haaland is the lighter print. The darker print is black. That sticker in the video is grey. The second print came out a lot darker than that. I opened a few of the first boxes and took out 3 Haaland. I then ordered directly from Panini later on and got the darker print.[/QUOTE]

Okay then I'm confused what you are talking about. Do you have photo examples of what you consider 1st print vs 2nd print?

Salzburg kit cards/stickers will always be considered his Rookie IMHO.

Sapphire will be popular I'm sure, but not considered a true rookie.

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 11:08 AM

[QUOTE=Ianhatcher;17022518]I'm not a fan of any of the Topps Now cards or anything where you buy the card directly from Topps site no matter how low the print run. It's just not what cards are about imo as you buy packs and open them in hopes of getting a card you want but if people collect them and want to shell out big money more power to you. It's just not for me at all and I'd equate it to some promo card.

I'm so tired of people on this forum "telling" others how it is regarding how a RC designation should be especially when they call a sticker a card....That always makes me laugh. Panini was still printing Basketball for 19/20 up until late last year with NBA Hoops Premium Stock releasing in December so are all those Zion and Ja cards not rookies now? Ridiculous that the release date should matter in any way.

For me the Salzburg is highly collectible due to the only main stream card in that kit and it is a tough grade. The Dortmund extended SP from that set is really slept on as well as it is a tough pull at I think it was 2 of those cards per case so 1 in 7 cases with 14 cards in the extended set. Bundesliga for it's very short print run as a set is also a highly collectible card. Regular Chrome is a great mid-tier priced main release and of course the Sapphire which I think is THE go to RC for Haaland. I have a lot of all of them so really doesn't matter to me what the value is, I like them all but my favorite is the Sapphire.

So really there is something for everyone with Haaland if you want to collect him but you are going to have people try and push their agenda on what should have value though.

People just need to get over trying to tell the Americans how we view RCs. [B]This is how we collect and it's not changing.[/B][/QUOTE]

The same thing was said about Sapphire..."It's just another cracked ice card". Remember that? Now, even you, reference Sapphire, (an online exclusive not available to the masses), as being their favorite. And I don't disagree with you. It's a fantastic product, and Haaland's cards in it are very popular.

I too own a decent amount of Sapphire. It might sound like I'm biased, but I have what I would say are almost identically equal amounts of Haaland Sapphire and NOW #178 cards.

IndySportsCards 02-21-2021 11:12 AM

Best $30 I've spent in a while, well picked it up Raw on 1/16/2020

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/ncqVJ462/s-l1600.jpg[/IMG]

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 11:13 AM

People need to not mistake the significance of the NOW 178 Haaland RC:

(September 17th, 2019...Available for EVERYONE in the world to buy on September 18th, 2019. Topps would have sold an unlimited amount of these if people were paying attention)

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Just look at what that moment captures:

From the bold "Red Bull" on his chest, (would be a cool nickname), teammates celebrating in the background, opponent distraught, Haaland's arms out wide letting the world know, "I've arrived!!!".

Can someone show me a more significant card than this and tell me why?

IndySportsCards 02-21-2021 11:17 AM

[QUOTE=mwheeler27;17022618]
Can someone show me a more significant card than this and tell me why?[/QUOTE]

Nope, it's just unattainable for most, but it doesn't diminish it's place. As Haaland continues to be an absolute monster, it's value will continue to skyrocket, especially graded versions.

mwheeler27 02-21-2021 11:18 AM

[QUOTE=IndySportsCards;17022616]Best $30 I've spent in a while, well picked it up Raw on 1/16/2020

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/ncqVJ462/s-l1600.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

No kidding!!! :eek:

Here's one of the best $80 purchases I've made:

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mwheeler27 02-21-2021 11:20 AM

[QUOTE=IndySportsCards;17022630]Nope, it's just unattainable for most, but it doesn't diminish it's place. As Haaland continues to be an absolute monster, it's value will continue to skyrocket, especially graded versions.[/QUOTE]

Ungraded versions will skyrocket too. :)!

Ianhatcher 02-21-2021 11:23 AM

[QUOTE=mwheeler27;17022600]The same thing was said about Sapphire..."It's just another cracked ice card". Remember that? Now, even you, reference Sapphire, (an online exclusive not available to the masses), as being their favorite. And I don't disagree with you. It's a fantastic product, and Haaland's cards in it are very popular.

I too own a decent amount of Sapphire. It might sound like I'm biased, but I have what I would say are almost identically equal amounts of Haaland Sapphire and NOW #178 cards.[/QUOTE]

There is a difference between buying the exact exclusive printed card online and buying a exclusive boxed product where you have a chance to get certain cards.

If people put value on it fine but I don't. It spits in the face of everything that is fun about sport cards which is ripping packs for cards. Either you or someone else pulled the card form a pack is what I care about not I was the first to add this card to my cart. I don't care about digital cards either but that doesn't mean they don't have value to some people.

These are printed cards of moments that you can buy at the click of a button. Not a fan of it and they are just promo cards for me but you do you.

IndySportsCards 02-21-2021 11:23 AM

[QUOTE=mwheeler27;17022644]Ungraded versions will skyrocket too. :)![/QUOTE]

True. If he's truly the face of Soccer along with Mbappe, as Ronaldo and Messi quit playing, this card will become like the 2004 Megacrack Messi rookie

YayNJ 02-21-2021 11:26 AM

I mean, it doesn't get much more simpler than this :

If he's wearing a Dortmund kit, it isn't a rookie.

IndySportsCards 02-21-2021 11:28 AM

[QUOTE=Ianhatcher;17022654]There is a difference between buying the exact exclusive printed card online and buying a exclusive boxed product where you have a chance to get certain cards.

If people put value on it fine but I don't. It spits in the face of everything that is fun about sport cards which is ripping packs for cards. Either you or someone else pulled the card form a pack is what I care about not I was the first to add this card to my cart. I don't care about digital cards either but that doesn't mean they don't have value to some people.

These are printed cards of moments that you can buy at the click of a button. Not a fan of it and they are just promo cards for me but you do you.[/QUOTE]

Soccer is a different beast than typical US based sports like Baseball, Football. Many times it's stickers that are deemed valuable rookies that are only available in Spain, or Italy, or in Magazines, etc.. US collectors may hover closer to cards, but internationally many still collect stickers and view them as true rookies. Cards are expanding into Europe though and may start to drive European collectors towards them, and the Topps Now program often offers MANY cards to that market via their website we can't even get here on Topps.com - It just adds to the confusion and makes collecting soccer more difficult for us all.

But as other have stated, collect what you like, like what you collect.

IndySportsCards 02-21-2021 11:29 AM

[QUOTE=mwheeler27;17022634]No kidding!!! :eek:

Here's one of the best $80 purchases I've made:
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Now that is a MOAB! Nice job


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