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Metsfan1991 08-04-2022 06:05 AM

Justin Fields Thread
 
Very optimistic about Justin’s future with a new coach and offensive cordinator. Last year the coaching utilized his biggest strength in running the RPO 2% of the time! How absolutely insane!

Card wise it seems some of his stuff is overpriced, some under, but I personally think Justin has more upside then anyone in the class.

Anyone in here collect fields or have any predictions on his growth? It’s only training camp so far but he has been described as ‘dazzling’.


Thanks all!

Dave

starfox 08-04-2022 07:45 AM

Fields is good, but his team is not. Years of having so few draft picks is still hindering this team. It's still early, but Fields should prove his worth well before it's time to exercise or decline the team's fifth year option.

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Grid 08-04-2022 08:01 AM

That was Nagy beuing Nagy. Mitch has put him on blast plenty for forcing his QBs to play his game. Instead of designing a game plan to fit the strengths of his QBs.

It seems the new regime is going to cater to what Justin does best.

I wouldn't say I am sold on him, but he does have talent.

jplarson 08-04-2022 08:31 AM

[QUOTE=Grid;18343905]That was Nagy beuing Nagy. Mitch has put him on blast plenty for forcing his QBs to play his game. Instead of designing a game plan to fit the strengths of his QBs.[/QUOTE]

Really is a shame Nagy couldn't get out of his own way.

As a Bears fan I'm hoping he does great for us. As a collector I've picked up low end inserts and base cards for the hobby enjoyment but certainly no major money.

Grid 08-04-2022 10:41 AM

[QUOTE=jplarson;18343944]Really is a shame Nagy couldn't get out of his own way. [/QUOTE]

Yup. I know Ryan Pace got blown up as the GM. But the moves he made to build the team were mostly solid. His biggest mistake, was handing the team over to Nagy. Who just refused to do anything except push his own agenda.

Pace got Mitch, who I still think is talented. Before Nagy went Nagy, Mitch made the Pro Bowl by playing his game as a rookie. Nagy ruined that.

Pace knew Aikeem Hicks from back when he was with the Saints. Adding Hicks was a great move.

Pace drafted Roquan, and got us Mack. Picked Eddie Jackson and Cohen in the 4th round, which was a great value. And he brought in Allen Robinson and Robert Quinn.

If Pace would have just promoted Fangio to HC, let him turn over the reigns for offense to someone not named Nagy. And let Pace continue adding talent. It would have been a completely different team.

Soxrule111 08-04-2022 10:53 AM

I hope Im wrong, but I think Fields is trash. Will be traded after the season and the Bears Draft a New QB Top 3

exospheer 08-04-2022 11:07 AM

[QUOTE=Grid;18344201]Yup. I know Ryan Pace got blown up as the GM. But the moves he made to build the team were mostly solid. His biggest mistake, was handing the team over to Nagy. Who just refused to do anything except push his own agenda.

Pace got Mitch, who I still think is talented. Before Nagy went Nagy, Mitch made the Pro Bowl by playing his game as a rookie. Nagy ruined that.

Pace knew Aikeem Hicks from back when he was with the Saints. Adding Hicks was a great move.

Pace drafted Roquan, and got us Mack. Picked Eddie Jackson and Cohen in the 4th round, which was a great value. And he brought in Allen Robinson and Robert Quinn.

If Pace would have just promoted Fangio to HC, let him turn over the reigns for offense to someone not named Nagy. And let Pace continue adding talent. It would have been a completely different team.[/QUOTE]

Disagree with Pace. He overvalued some players and overpaid in terms of draft capital to get them. Overall his 1st and 2nd round picks were awful.

Fields is going to be great IMO. Has the right mentality and all the talent needed to succeed. People with his amount of talent and work ethnic usually excel unless something freaky happens.

Soxrule111 08-04-2022 11:14 AM

[QUOTE=exospheer;18344247]Disagree with Pace. He overvalued some players and overpaid in terms of draft capital to get them. Overall his 1st and 2nd round picks were awful.

Fields is going to be great IMO. Has the right mentality and all the talent needed to succeed. People with his amount of talent and work ethnic usually excel unless something freaky happens.[/QUOTE]

Have you watched any Bears Games Start to Finish that Fields Played in? I have not gotten the Right Mentality to Succeed at all from him.

jplarson 08-04-2022 11:16 AM

[QUOTE=Soxrule111;18344218]I think Fields is trash. [/QUOTE]

I don't know many QBs who would have succeeded in that offense with that playcalling and personnel last year.

Grid 08-04-2022 11:19 AM

[QUOTE=exospheer;18344247]Disagree with Pace. He overvalued some players and overpaid in terms of draft capital to get them. Overall his 1st and 2nd round picks were awful.

Fields is going to be great IMO. Has the right mentality and all the talent needed to succeed. People with his amount of talent and work ethnic usually excel unless something freaky happens.[/QUOTE]

I totally get people being so down on Pace. But he was building a team to win now. And that is what happens. You pay the stars, and you trade picks for players that can help you win now.

Once he moved on from John Fox, the team was 12-4 and lost a heart breaker in the playoffs. Everything was set, except for Nagy tanking the team.

Once that happened, and Mitch regressed, everything Pace did became a negative because the money was then wasted.

jplarson 08-04-2022 11:36 AM

[QUOTE=Soxrule111;18344264]Have you watched any Bears Games Start to Finish that Fields Played in? I have not gotten the Right Mentality to Succeed at all from him.[/QUOTE]

Have you watched any Bears games start to finish that Fields played that didn't involve Nagy?

I'm not ready to toss the dude in the trash heap. Maybe he does turn out, maybe he doesn't. Let's see what a different manager does for his productivity.

Grid 08-04-2022 11:47 AM

[QUOTE=jplarson;18344332]Have you watched any Bears games start to finish that Fields played that didn't involve Nagy?

I'm not ready to toss the dude in the trash heap. Maybe he does turn out, maybe he doesn't. Let's see what a different manager does for his productivity.[/QUOTE]

Thats exactly where I am on this. Nagy ran the 2017 Chiefs offense, when he got there in 2018. He let Mitch be Mitch, and Mitch went to the Pro Bowl and had his best year in the league.

Nagy went full Nagy in 2019, and Mitch's numbers nosedived, as Nagy made him a drop back and read QB. Even though he played in more games, his rushing yards and rushing TD's were cut in half. And he no longer extended plays with his legs.

I wont judge Fields with just a year under Nagy to go on. Nagy didnt want Fields, Pace did. And Pace forced Nagy to play him for the most part. Its like Nagy wanted to destroy the team out of spite.

Metsfan1991 08-04-2022 12:07 PM

Pump it up!

Zach Wilson is apparently being outperformed by Joe Flacco while fields is “dazzling”.

majestik101 08-04-2022 01:02 PM

If he was on any other team, I'd probably be more optimistic about his future. Chicago is Quarterback Purgatory

Grid 08-04-2022 02:02 PM

[QUOTE=majestik101;18344541]If he was on any other team, I'd probably be more optimistic about his future. Chicago is Quarterback Purgatory[/QUOTE]

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Siberian13 08-04-2022 03:39 PM

Hope he does well so azzjublees can finally celebrate a Buckeye QB in the pros

jplarson 08-04-2022 03:55 PM

[QUOTE=Siberian13;18344928]Hope he does well so azzjublees can finally celebrate a Buckeye QB in the pros[/QUOTE]

But that would leave Cleveland as the sole proprietor of the hit nightclub Quarterback Purgatory.

Truly a rock and a hard place conundrum for him :/

Siberian13 08-04-2022 04:05 PM

[QUOTE=jplarson;18344975]But that would leave Cleveland as the sole proprietor of the hit nightclub Quarterback Purgatory.

Truly a rock and a hard place conundrum for him :/[/QUOTE]

Deshaun will be starting soon to help ease his Brownie QB pain. Could be a good next few years for him.

exospheer 08-04-2022 04:47 PM

[QUOTE=Soxrule111;18344264]Have you watched any Bears Games Start to Finish that Fields Played in? I have not gotten the Right Mentality to Succeed at all from him.[/QUOTE]

Yes...

Hard work, the ability to not be gun shy and leadership. Not sure what mentality you are looking for in a QB, but he has shown glimpses of all of those things. He needs to work on slowing the game down and football work, but I think he can overcome it. As others have said, the thing holding him back is the Bears.

jmcca170 08-04-2022 10:38 PM

[QUOTE=Soxrule111;18344264]Have you watched any Bears Games Start to Finish that Fields Played in? I have not gotten the Right Mentality to Succeed at all from him.[/QUOTE]


Go watch the Steelers game again


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Metsfan1991 08-08-2022 04:33 PM

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To the moon!!!!!


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asujbl 08-08-2022 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=Siberian13;18344928]Hope he does well so azzjublees can finally celebrate a Buckeye QB in the pros[/QUOTE]

Wait until Stroud goes #1

thenwhatjk 08-08-2022 04:45 PM

Be cool if he signed his contenders

Siberian13 08-08-2022 04:49 PM

[QUOTE=thenwhatjk;18352237]Be cool if he signed his contenders[/QUOTE]

I wouldn’t even risk a redemption from Panini at this point. Even if he’s your PC guy.

Asian62150 08-08-2022 04:56 PM

As a Bears fan, I am desperately hoping Fields does well.

Because of this, I am not buying Fields cards at all.

I am happy to be wrong and miss out on great buying opportunities if Fields becomes the franchise QB we've been looking for since before color TV?

growdoe 08-08-2022 05:29 PM

I'd like to see more energy and personality from Fields during interviews or on the sidelines. He looked unhappy last year, maybe Nagy was buggin him. Early success with new coaches would give a big boost of confidence.

I expect him to outperform Trey Lance in the first home game, and perform strong, but lose against the Packers in Green Bay during Week 2. Week 3 is a winnable against the Texans at home. A 2-1 start is needed at a minimum.

asujbl 08-08-2022 05:31 PM

[QUOTE=growdoe;18352318]I'd like to see more energy and personality from Fields during interviews or on the sidelines. He looked unhappy last year, maybe Nagy was buggin him. Early success with new coaches would give a big boost of confidence.

I expect him to outperform Trey Lance in the first home game, and perform strong, but lose against the Packers in Green Bay during Week 2. Week 3 is a winnable against the Texans at home. A 2-1 start is needed at a minimum.[/QUOTE]

Should have traded Fields for Baker. He has what you are into

jplarson 08-08-2022 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=growdoe;18352318]I'd like to see more energy and personality from Fields during interviews or on the sidelines. He looked unhappy last year, maybe Nagy was buggin him. Early success with new coaches would give a big boost of confidence. [/QUOTE]

Everyone was unhappy this year. Plenty of players have tossed shade at Nagy this offseason. Really strong "they'd be prettier if they smiled once in a while" energy.

[QUOTE=growdoe;18352318]
I expect him to outperform Trey Lance in the first home game, and perform strong, but lose against the Packers in Green Bay during Week 2. Week 3 is a winnable against the Texans at home. A 2-1 start is needed at a minimum.[/QUOTE]

Showing a coherent game plan and maximizing players natural talent is needed. This is year one of a rebuild, expectations need to be low in terms of W/L.

growdoe 08-08-2022 09:47 PM

[QUOTE=jplarson;18352551]Really strong "they'd be prettier if they smiled once in a while" energy.[/QUOTE]

You must be the Macho Man of these boards?

Energy <-> Motivation <-> Attitude <-> Confidence <-> On-Field Performance - they all intertwined.

growdoe 08-08-2022 09:49 PM

[QUOTE=asujbl;18352322]Should have traded Fields for Baker. He has what you are into[/QUOTE]

And what am I into? Please elaborate.

Siberian13 08-08-2022 10:29 PM

[QUOTE=growdoe;18352703]And what am I into? Please elaborate.[/QUOTE]

Do you like cheesecake?

growdoe 08-08-2022 10:31 PM

[QUOTE=Siberian13;18352754]Do you like cheesecake?[/QUOTE]

Yes Doc, so what's the diagnosis?

jplarson 08-08-2022 11:14 PM

[QUOTE=growdoe;18352701]You must be the Macho Man of these boards?

Energy <-> Motivation <-> Attitude <-> Confidence <-> On-Field Performance - they all intertwined.[/QUOTE]

Definitely not the Macho Man (???) of the boards; I gladly cede the title to you.


As for Fields:

How much energy should he be exuding after getting sacked 9 times in his first career start?

How happy should he be putting up a 3-9 record in games started?

I'd bet Fields felt bugged that Nagy ran the exact same offense for him that was designed for Andy Dalton/Nick Foles type QBs.

But sure, if he interviewed better the Bears would have won more games :rolleyes:

growdoe 08-08-2022 11:37 PM

Nah man, no ceding to me. You keep it.

Even with the new regime, Fields still comes across as lacking confidence, IMO. He attended a charity event at the hockey rink last month and looked nervous just doing that.

Compare him to someone like Mahomes who has charisma. Mahomes can lead. I don't see the same charisma in Fields. He may have enough to do the job, but can he do the job exceptionally? I dunno.

jplarson 08-09-2022 12:58 AM

[QUOTE=growdoe;18352837]Even with the new regime, Fields still comes across as lacking confidence, IMO. [B]He attended a charity event at the hockey rink last month and looked nervous just doing that.[/B][/QUOTE]

:cry:

[QUOTE=growdoe;18352837][B]Compare him to someone like Mahomes[/B] who has charisma. Mahomes can lead. I don't see the same charisma in Fields. He may have enough to do the job, but can he do the job exceptionally? I dunno.[/QUOTE]

:cry::cry::cry:

Metsfan1991 08-09-2022 04:18 AM

What cards are everyone waiting on? I have had multiple offers to have this transferred (buy it) but can’t just pull the trigger

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blackbears86 08-09-2022 10:28 AM

The Bears have no run defense
The Bears have arguably the worst receiving corps in the NFL
The Bears have a new coaching staff/playbook
The only positive is a half decent running game (and that could be a stretch)


This spells disaster for Fields. I like the kid, but I think he really struggles this year. Sorry Bears fans.

exospheer 08-09-2022 11:26 AM

[QUOTE=Metsfan1991;18352947]What cards are everyone waiting on? I have had multiple offers to have this transferred (buy it) but can’t just pull the trigger

/1 on card auto

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Just looking at the Contenders redemptions, its in the system since March. He signed his Flawless and Eminence, hope he signed a lot of things in training camp.

Metsfan1991 08-10-2022 04:12 PM

Still a bunch of optimism

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asujbl 08-10-2022 04:23 PM

Would any WR on the Bears crack the Buckeyes Top 4 of the last few years?

Olave
Wilson
JSN
Harrison

jplarson 08-10-2022 04:27 PM

[QUOTE=asujbl;18356308]Would any WR on the Bears crack the Buckeyes Top 4 of the last few years?

Olave
Wilson
JSN
Harrison[/QUOTE]

Summed up perfectly from another site:

[QUOTE]Do you know who they added to their receiving corps this offseason? Byron Pringle and Equanimeous St. Brown: two wideouts who were underwhelming despite having Hall of Famers throwing them the ball. And then they traded for N’Keal Harry, which is like trading for syphilis. What do you even trade to GET N’Keal Harry? A ColecoVision has more value than this slob. Harry is hurt already, and an injured N’Keal Harry can only be an improvement over the healthy incarnation of N’Keal Harry.[/QUOTE]

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jplarson 08-11-2022 03:45 PM

I don't put a ton of stock into training camp excerpts from "team sources" and "Bears insiders".

I'm hopeful he doesn't get injured and shows enough promise to make the GM decide to build around him rather than flush him down the toilet.

ChefCurry312 08-11-2022 03:59 PM

As a Bears fan, the organization is a complete joke right now. I think Fields is talented but the Bears are putting him in an impossible situation for nearly an QB.

1. Probably the worst WR core in the NFL

2. One of the worst offensives lines in the NFL (#31 according to PFF [url]https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-unit-rankings-tiers-2022[/url])

3. New coaching staff

For additional shenanigans, the Bears also alienating things with our best defensive player, Roquan Smith.

Metsfan1991 08-11-2022 04:10 PM

Don’t expect it to all come together this year but next year the bears have the most cap space and surely will have a good draft pick in a great WR draft

Again I don’t think most understand how bad Nagy was with his offense….2% RPO

Ruffy 08-11-2022 07:45 PM

Honestly with an O-Line and WRs this bad, will the Bears even win a game in 2022??

Metsfan1991 08-12-2022 03:01 AM

[QUOTE=Ruffy;18358900]Honestly with an O-Line and WRs this bad, will the Bears even win a game in 2022??[/QUOTE]

Darnell Mooney will probably finish top 5 wr yards this year but I I expect a 6-11 campaign from the bears . With the most cap space next year and a great draft pick in a wr strong class, they are on a path to do well.

Grid 08-12-2022 07:50 AM

[QUOTE=ChefCurry312;18358385]As a Bears fan, the organization is a complete joke right now. I think Fields is talented but the Bears are putting him in an impossible situation for nearly an QB.

1. Probably the worst WR core in the NFL

2. One of the worst offensives lines in the NFL (#31 according to PFF [url]https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-unit-rankings-tiers-2022[/url])

3. New coaching staff

For additional shenanigans, the Bears also alienating things with our best defensive player, Roquan Smith.[/QUOTE]

Spoken like a true "fan" who only reads sports headlines on Facebook.

1) The Bears were in a financial mess with big contracts during the Pace era. It would be stupid to pull a Jaguars, and pay a free agent like Christian Kirk $72MIL. Even giving Allen Robinson the same $16MIL a year the Rams did would be stupid. You don't overpay for receivers, during a rebuild.

Poles is trying to do what he saw in KC. Get a group of young catchers like Kelce, Hill & Robinson. And let them grow as a group.

Mooney and Pringle arent a horrible 1 & 2. Velus Jones Jr was a good value draft pick, and he has speed to spare. The right QB and system, and even OK receivers can look like a star.

2) They signed Lucas Patrick from the Pack, as he knows Getsy's system. Drafted 4 linemen to develop. And added some new bodies to the mix. I don't see why they would go out and spend money on bigger names, until they see what they now have to work with.

3) New coaching staff is right. How is that a joke? Did you want a few more years of Nagy? This is year one of a rebuild. What did you want to see?

Roquan Smith is digging his own hole. This is why you hire an agent, so you dont get butt hurt during negotiations. He is acting like a child right now, when the Bears hold all the cards.

He is still under contract, and getting paid $10MIL this season. The Bears can franchise him, twice, locking him up for 3 years. Poles made him a good offer, but Ro didnt like that the high end of the money was incentive based. If he had confidence in what he can do, he should take the money on less years. Or just play his heart out on the last year of his deal, and force bigger money.

Metsfan1991 08-12-2022 08:07 AM

[QUOTE=Grid;18359507]Spoken like a true "fan" who only reads sports headlines on Facebook.

1) The Bears were in a financial mess with big contracts during the Pace era. It would be stupid to pull a Jaguars, and pay a free agent like Christian Kirk $72MIL. Even giving Allen Robinson the same $16MIL a year the Rams did would be stupid. You don't overpay for receivers, during a rebuild.

Poles is trying to do what he saw in KC. Get a group of young catchers like Kelce, Hill & Robinson. And let them grow as a group.

Mooney and Pringle arent a horrible 1 & 2. Velus Jones Jr was a good value draft pick, and he has speed to spare. The right QB and system, and even OK receivers can look like a star.

2) They signed Lucas Patrick from the Pack, as he knows Getsy's system. Drafted 4 linemen to develop. And added some new bodies to the mix. I don't see why they would go out and spend money on bigger names, until they see what they now have to work with.

3) New coaching staff is right. How is that a joke? Did you want a few more years of Nagy? This is year one of a rebuild. What did you want to see?

Roquan Smith is digging his own hole. This is why you hire an agent, so you dont get butt hurt during negotiations. He is acting like a child right now, when the Bears hold all the cards.

He is still under contract, and getting paid $10MIL this season. The Bears can franchise him, twice, locking him up for 3 years. Poles made him a good offer, but Ro didnt like that the high end of the money was incentive based. If he had confidence in what he can do, he should take the money on less years. Or just play his heart out on the last year of his deal, and force bigger money.[/QUOTE]




He must be sad Nagy is gone. I’m not even a bears fan but I keep saying it….Nagy was forcing fields into a offense that didn’t utilize Qb movement, hence the 2% RPO rate.

Bears are in a good spot for the future! Most cap space in the league next year with a great upcoming War class.

Bears already have a borderline #1 reciever…don’t think people know how good Mooney is.

Grid 08-12-2022 10:30 AM

[QUOTE=Metsfan1991;18359536]He must be sad Nagy is gone. I’m not even a bears fan but I keep saying it….Nagy was forcing fields into a offense that didn’t utilize Qb movement, hence the 2% RPO rate.

Bears are in a good spot for the future! Most cap space in the league next year with a great upcoming War class.

Bears already have a borderline #1 reciever…don’t think people know how good Mooney is.[/QUOTE]

Yup. It has nothing to do with winning now. But rather setting them up to win for years going forward.

I get why fans are upset. Cohen was once a good player. But cutting him loose was the right move, as he was injury prone. Which he proved, by getting hurt just working out on his own.

Mack was a big time player. But you dont give him tens of millions of dollars to be on a rebuilding team. Same with Hicks, Goldman, Foles ETC. All good players, just not worth the money right now.

They need to build from the bottom up, to be a long term success. The last GM was in win now mode. Trading away picks, and bringing in high priced talent. It just wasn't working, and was unsustainable.

Mitch exposed Nagy, and now everyone is connecting the dots on Fields and his year 1 performance. I am in the blame the coach camp on that debacle.

exospheer 08-12-2022 03:50 PM

[QUOTE=Grid;18359830]Yup. It has nothing to do with winning now. But rather setting them up to win for years going forward.

I get why fans are upset. Cohen was once a good player. But cutting him loose was the right move, as he was injury prone. Which he proved, by getting hurt just working out on his own.

Mack was a big time player. But you dont give him tens of millions of dollars to be on a rebuilding team. Same with Hicks, Goldman, Foles ETC. All good players, just not worth the money right now.

They need to build from the bottom up, to be a long term success. The last GM was in win now mode. Trading away picks, and bringing in high priced talent. It just wasn't working, and was unsustainable.

Mitch exposed Nagy, and now everyone is connecting the dots on Fields and his year 1 performance. I am in the blame the coach camp on that debacle.[/QUOTE]

If we roll out Fields more than 20 times this year, its already a big win compared to Nagy

Metsfan1991 08-16-2022 08:26 AM

I heard from a credible source he was signing soon.

We shall see

exospheer 08-16-2022 10:23 AM

[QUOTE=Metsfan1991;18367562]I heard from a credible source he was signing soon.

We shall see[/QUOTE]

Lets hope that is the case. He signed Flawless and Eminence and a ton of stickers, no reason he doesn't sign the rest.

ichirorox 08-17-2022 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=Metsfan1991;18367562]I heard from a credible source he was signing soon.

We shall see[/QUOTE]

who are the credible sources?

Ruffy 08-17-2022 07:32 PM

[QUOTE=ichirorox;18370703]who are the credible sources?[/QUOTE]

I bet Darnell Mooney told him. Or perhaps it was backup QB Trevor Siemian who advised him that honoring contractual obligations is generally a good practice

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Metsfan1991 08-28-2022 04:45 PM

[QUOTE=ichirorox;18370703]who are the credible sources?[/QUOTE]

Looks like my source was correct :)

Metsfan1991 08-28-2022 04:50 PM

[QUOTE=Ruffy;18370919]I bet Darnell:D Mooney told him. Or perhaps it was backup QB Trevor Siemian who advised him that honoring contractual obligations is generally a good practice[/QUOTE]

Hope you had a good laugh.

Looks like my source was correct :D

ichirorox 08-28-2022 06:26 PM

[QUOTE=Metsfan1991;18392020]Looks like my source was correct :)[/QUOTE]

Are redemptions getting fulfilled?!

OneSickDegen 08-28-2022 09:31 PM

Bears are the new Browns. Fields will end up a backup in Arizona in 3 yrs after they ruin his career.

Grid 08-29-2022 10:59 AM

[QUOTE=OneSickDegen;18392560]Bears are the new Browns. Fields will end up a backup in Arizona in 3 yrs after they ruin his career.[/QUOTE]

The Bears have never came close to the factory of sadness that was the Browns. Nor are their fans nearly as delusional.

The Browns came back in 1999. Here is a side by side looking at the past 2 decades.

2000-2010.
Bears won 92 game, and made the playoffs in 4 seasons. They won their division 4 times, and even played in the Super Bowl.

Browns won 62 games. 50% less than the Bears. Played in one wild card game, which they lost. They never won their division.

2011-2021
Bears won 79 games, and made the playoffs twice. And won the division once.

Browns won 56 games (again 50% less than the Bears), and made the playoffs once in 2020. They never won their division, placing dead last 7 times. And second to last 4 times. Plus the stench of a 1 win season, and zero win season.

blackbears86 08-29-2022 11:50 AM

Great game for the kid this weekend, but I think he's in for a long season.

Grid 08-29-2022 03:31 PM

[QUOTE=blackbears86;18393343]Great game for the kid this weekend, but I think he's in for a long season.[/QUOTE]

Yup. I dont want to put too much into preseason football, and sound like a Detroit Lions fan. But I will say, he didn't give me any reason to worry while watching him during the preseason.

He made, what I assume, were the correct reads. Didn't get happy feet in the box and try to run. And the game he played the longest in, he was nearly perfect.

Obviously everyone blasts the WR corps. And rightfully so. But I think Kmet will have a big year. Mooney is sneaky good, just not a #1. And this Pettis guy seems to have great hands, and runs a clean route. Sharpe looked better than I thought too. And who knows what they have in Velus JJ.

The over under on the season is 4.5 wins. They play the Texans, Giants, Dolphins, Commanders & Jets. Plus add in the Lions twice, and the Vikings don't impress me and are rebuilding as well. And I can see the Bears sneaking up on some teams this year.

Ruffy 08-29-2022 05:19 PM

I'm by no means an expert. The Bears really need to figure out how to assemble a competent offensive line though.

He wont have much time back there and will be taking some serious hits from monstrous defensive lineman throughout the season. I expect him to have several mild to serious injuries and miss nearly half the games.

Chicosbailbonds 08-30-2022 05:35 AM

If they can sort out the OL, they have a very easy schedule.

OneSickDegen 08-30-2022 07:25 AM

[QUOTE=Grid;18393239]The Bears have never came close to the factory of sadness that was the Browns. Nor are their fans nearly as delusional.

The Browns came back in 1999. Here is a side by side looking at the past 2 decades.

2000-2010.
Bears won 92 game, and made the playoffs in 4 seasons. They won their division 4 times, and even played in the Super Bowl.

Browns won 62 games. 50% less than the Bears. Played in one wild card game, which they lost. They never won their division.

2011-2021
Bears won 79 games, and made the playoffs twice. And won the division once.

Browns won 56 games (again 50% less than the Bears), and made the playoffs once in 2020. They never won their division, placing dead last 7 times. And second to last 4 times. Plus the stench of a 1 win season, and zero win season.[/QUOTE]

You can type all the words you want but the Bears still suck. I wasn't referring to W/L records, but the mishandling of the QB position but OK. You clowns drafted Trubiski over Patrick Mahomes so you really should slow your roll.

Proving that you're better than the Browns is an excellent example of how myopic Bears fan is.

Metsfan1991 08-30-2022 08:10 AM

No one in this thread thinks the bears are going to be amazing…I simply have been making the point that Matt Nagy called RPO for fields 2% of the time….fields is much better than people think and after his last preseason game are taking note.

Bears will have an up and down year …prob 6-11, but the growth fields will display combined with the most cap space in the league next year will set the bears up for success …at least I believe.

People love to hate on anything…If this applies to you I am sorry for your parents raising you in a culture that taught this.it’s not your fault

Grid 08-30-2022 08:18 AM

[QUOTE=OneSickDegen;18395081]You can type all the words you want but the Bears still suck. I wasn't referring to W/L records, but the mishandling of the QB position but OK. You clowns drafted Trubiski over Patrick Mahomes so you really should slow your roll.

Proving that you're better than the Browns is an excellent example of how myopic Bears fan is.[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about? You are the one that compared the Bears to the Browns. I was the one to point out how idiotic that was.

Leading up to the draft, it was a three-man affair between Mitchell Trubisky, Deshaun Watson, and DeShone Kizer. Mahomes was projected as a 3rd rounder, until he had a great showing at the combine.

There are 31 other teams that wish they would have drafted Mahomes in hindsight.

jplarson 08-30-2022 08:37 AM

[QUOTE=OneSickDegen;18395081]You can type all the words you want but the Bears still suck. I wasn't referring to W/L records, but the mishandling of the QB position but OK. [B]You clowns[/B] drafted Trubiski over Patrick Mahomes so you really should slow your roll.[/QUOTE]

Do you think Grid is Ryan Pace? Do you think there is a team in this league that hasn't made a clown pick in retrospect?

[QUOTE=OneSickDegen;18395081]Proving that you're better than the Browns is an excellent example of how myopic Bears fan is.[/QUOTE]

No one is "proving" the Bears are better than the Browns. We are [I]saying[/I] that your statement that the Bears are the Browns is false.

OneSickDegen 08-30-2022 11:41 AM

Enjoy your 7-10 season with your middling QB guys. Hope he can stay upright with that stellar offensive line...

Metsfan1991 08-30-2022 12:05 PM

[QUOTE=OneSickDegen;18395603]Enjoy your 7-10 season with your middling QB guys. Hope he can stay upright with that stellar offensive line...[/QUOTE]

As creator of this thread I am thinking 6-11 but bears are in a great position compared to many teams for future sucess.

jplarson 08-30-2022 12:14 PM

A 7-10 season would far exceed my expectations.

jmcca170 08-31-2022 07:00 AM

Lol I’d be ecstatic with 7 wins


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thenwhatjk 08-31-2022 11:13 AM

Wait so what’s the word on contenders redemptions?


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