Micah Parsons to the Packers
 

Massive trade right before the season and a massive payday for Micah

Huge for the packers. Watch out nfc north.

Excellent. Get him out of the East.

[QUOTE=TheHeel;20005036]Excellent. Get him out of the East.[/QUOTE]

I second this sentiment, Go Giants!

Great……..packers just added one of, if not the best defensive players in football to a top 5 defence. Not looking forward to seeing him twice a year. NFC North is definitely the best division in the league.

Kenny Clark going to Dallas with 2 1st Round picks

Parsons and the Packers already have reached agreement on a four-year, $188 million contract, the sources said.

Parsons will receive $62 million in the first new year of the deal, $120 million fully guaranteed, and a total of $136 million guaranteed -- all records for non-quarterbacks.

The Packers odds just went up to win it all.

I like Micah Parsons but he’s very one dimensional and not worth more than Myles Garrett. Micah is terrible against the run. I know the season hasn’t even started yet but let’s face it the Cowboys aren’t contenders. I would rather get high draft picks than salvage the whole team salary cap for one player.

Congrats to the Green Bay Packers, you're still getting bounced by the Commanders in the WC

Jerry Jones has some draft capital now to try and grab Arch Manning, maybe that’s the plan. They probably won’t win a ton of games. How bad are the Cowboys married to Dak’s contract?

[QUOTE=majestik101;20005069]Congrats to the Green Bay Packers, you're still getting bounced by the Commanders in the WC[/QUOTE]

That Luke warm offense led by Love won’t do a lot to win games

[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;20005074]That Luke warm offense led by Love won’t do a lot to win games[/QUOTE]

Calling it now, Jordan Love will finish in the top 5 in MVP voting this season, and Matthew Golden will be in the running for ROY

#thegoldenlovecall

[QUOTE=Dallas Cowboys;20005051]I like Micah Parsons but he’s very one dimensional and not worth more than Myles Garrett. Micah is terrible against the run. I know the season hasn’t even started yet but let’s face it the Cowboys aren’t contenders. I would rather get high draft picks than salvage the whole team salary cap for one player.[/QUOTE]

I’m with you..been a fan since ‘87 and he didn’t do it for me when I saw the game to elevate his teammates to another level , was no Charles Haley type at all..hell not even Demarcus ware

I loved watching Micha play!! He was the only bright spot on the Cowboys. Now I have no reason to watch the Cowboys anymore. I havent watched the Packers since the Favre era but now I might. I just hope Micha takes the high road and doesnt trash the Cowboys to bad. He still has plenty of fans left here in Dallas but they wont stand by him if he starts running his mouth. We know Jerry is an idiot. Bash him all you want, just dont bash the whole organization.

I still think the lions are the top dogs in the nfc north.

[QUOTE=the mesiah;20005086]I’m with you..been a fan since ‘87 and he didn’t do it for me when I saw the game to elevate his teammates to another level , was no Charles Haley type at all..hell not even Demarcus ware[/QUOTE]


Yep I’ll take prime Ware over prime Parsons all day.


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Week 4 GB at Dallas!
Over under Parsons 4 sacks that game?

[QUOTE=coltsnsox07;20005116]Week 4 GB at Dallas!
Over under Parsons 4 sacks that game?[/QUOTE]

Under

[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;20005071]Jerry Jones has some draft capital now to try and grab Arch Manning, maybe that’s the plan. They probably won’t win a ton of games. How bad are the Cowboys married to Dak’s contract?[/QUOTE]

Nobody in a position to get the #1 pick is trading it.

[QUOTE=carlo16;20005127]Nobody in a position to get the #1 pick is trading it.[/QUOTE]

Especially not for late 1sts.

[QUOTE=mjekase;20005133]Especially not for late 1sts.[/QUOTE]

Yeah Dallas could have the 2nd and 3rd pick and that’s wouldn’t get it done

[QUOTE=carlo16;20005135]Yeah Dallas could have the 2nd and 3rd pick and that’s wouldn’t get it done[/QUOTE]

If you have the #1, maybe you aren’t guaranteed drafting Arch whatever year he comes out. Might pull an Eli

I was wrong

Good deal for both teams IMO.

Dallas wasn't winning anything this year and they got some draft capital.

Green Bay is a very young team defensively and will benefit from Parson's presence

[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;20005074]That Luke warm offense led by Love won’t do a lot to win games[/QUOTE]

The Luka joke was right there and you butchered it

Lame

[QUOTE=asujbl;20005145]I was wrong[/QUOTE]

[I]*gasp*[/I]

You?

[QUOTE=49erRCCollector;20005164][I]*gasp*[/I]

You?[/QUOTE]

50% wrong

I said he would be the highest paid player. He is

I said there was no chance Dallas would let him leave because they aren’t idiots. Wrong

[QUOTE=Siberian13;20005140]If you have the #1, maybe you aren’t guaranteed drafting Arch whatever year he comes out. Might pull an Eli[/QUOTE]

I know Arch is all the rage right now, but let's pump the brakes on him until he shows he's the real deal.

He's thrown less than 100 passes in his collegiate career and couldn't beat out 7th round pick Quinn Ewers last year.

Going into last season, Carson Beck was projected by some to be 1st overall. Whoops.

Could Arch be the next great QB? Yes. But knowing what we know right now on Aug 28th, I would take the 2nd and 3rd picks in the draft over the 1st.

I could see Dallas being a bottom 10 team this year though. Unproven HC in a tough division with no real strength of the team. At this point, Dak is maybe a top 12-15 QB?

Credit to the Cowboys for actually making moves to build a better overall roster. They weren't going anywhere with Micah making that much money.

[QUOTE=Asian62150;20005188]I know Arch is all the rage right now, but let's pump the brakes on him until he shows he's the real deal.

He's thrown less than 100 passes in his collegiate career and couldn't beat out 7th round pick Quinn Ewers last year.

Going into last season, Carson Beck was projected by some to be 1st overall. Whoops.

Could Arch be the next great QB? Yes. But knowing what we know right now on Aug 28th, I would take the 2nd and 3rd picks in the draft over the 1st.

I could see Dallas being a bottom 10 team this year though. Unproven HC in a tough division with no real strength of the team. At this point, Dak is maybe a top 12-15 QB?

Credit to the Cowboys for actually making moves to build a better overall roster. They weren't going anywhere with Micah making that much money.[/QUOTE]

He was better than Ewers. Everyone knew he was better than Ewers. Texas had a plan

I hate Texas but let’s call a spade a spade

Micah, Jacobs, Love....When was the last time the Packers QB was the 3rd best player on their team, 1978?

[QUOTE=coltsnsox07;20005260]Micah, Jacobs, Love....When was the last time the Packers QB was the 3rd best player on their team, 1978?[/QUOTE]

He’s not even 3rd yet

[QUOTE=Floridacardguy;20005071]Jerry Jones has some draft capital now to try and grab Arch Manning, maybe that’s the plan. They probably won’t win a ton of games. How bad are the Cowboys married to Dak’s contract?[/QUOTE]

Jerry Jones isn't tanking for anyone. It's not in the Cowboys DNA. He's got Dak for a 2 year window to win it all. He's toward the end of his life. He's not worried about building for the future.

[QUOTE=Archangel1775;20005397]Jerry Jones isn't tanking for anyone. It's not in the Cowboys DNA. He's got Dak for a 2 year window to win it all. He's toward the end of his life. He's not worried about building for the future.[/QUOTE]

Trading a top 5 defensive player for draft picks is win now?

Bold move, and Micah is a great player. If this puts the Packers over the hump, its worth it. But this is not 2021 Parsons. His sacks are down, his tackles have gone down considerably (half as many in 2024 as in 2021). And he could never play the run. And now, he is coming back from an injury year where he missed 4 games.

2024 D Player of the year voting, he got 2 votes. Which tied him for 20th place.

2023 D POTY, he was third.

2022 D POTY he was second.

2021, he won D ROY.

I'd love to have him on my team, don't get me wrong. But $48MIL a year, after you are paying Love $55MIL per. That is going to take some cap juggling, as they already have a ton of cash kicked into the future. And now no cheap draft premium rookie contracts to lean on, without a first round pick until 2028.


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[QUOTE=Grid;20005531]Bold move, and Micah is a great player. If this puts the Packers over the hump, its worth it. But this is not 2021 Parsons. His sacks are down, his tackles have gone down considerably (half as many in 2024 as in 2021). And he could never play the run. And now, he is coming back from an injury year where he missed 4 games.

2024 D Player of the year voting, he got 2 votes. Which tied him for 20th place.

2023 D POTY, he was third.

2022 D POTY he was second.

2021, he won D ROY.

I'd love to have him on my team, don't get me wrong. But $48MIL a year, after you are paying Love $55MIL per. That is going to take some cap juggling, as they already have a ton of cash kicked into the future. And now no cheap draft premium rookie contracts to lean on, without a first round pick until 2028.


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C'mon Grid, this type of chatter belongs in the NFCN thread. I'm guessing when the Bears acquired Mack you didn't take such a pessimistic tone. While some of what you presented is factual, you're ignoring a bunch of truths as well. His sacks are not down on a per game basis. In fact, his sack per game rate was the highest it's ever been in 2024. His QB hits have been remarkably consistent in just under 2 per game, right about where he was in 2024. The injury you referenced is what took him out of higher consideration for the DPOY award - NO ONE who got a vote played less games than Parsons. Extrapolating his stats would have put him in-line with (or better than) Hendrickson and Garrett - who finished second and third. I mean, he's 26! He's just entering his physical prime. Is it a big gamble that he'll work out in GB? Absolutely - but anyone is a big gamble. To acquire a top 5 pass rusher when pass rushing was your biggest weakness is a major coup. I'm less concerned with run defense with Edgerrin Cooper whizzing from sideline to sideline. If Parsons brings his A game to Wisconsin, this Packers defense is going to be fantastic.

[QUOTE=carlo16;20005507]Trading a top 5 defensive player for draft picks is win now?[/QUOTE]

You're conflating the "win now" at all cost with improving and protecting your team in a certain window of opportunity. The QB position is the most important position on the field. Dak Prescott has a contract through 2028. So that window is 2025-2028.

From 2021-2024 Michah Parsons was added to a defense that finished ranked in the last 1/3 of the NFL the previous season. From 2021-2023 they ranked in the Top 5 in most categories if they weren't #1. But what happened in 2024? What changed where the defense ranked basically last? Was it his injury? He only missed 4 games. The problem in those 4 games he missed is nothing really changed when he came back. Then its no secret he is bad against the run. In the NFC East against the Giants, Redskins and Eagles you gotta play the run. My point is, the Cowboys can get more affordable options to play the edge, likely improving the run defense while filling in other positions on that side of the ball with talented depth.

Giving him his desired contract was going to 100% hamstring the team for Dak's window to win. You have to consider the salary cap and depth for those 4 years. That's why Jerry Jones did what he did. Sure, it backfires if Green Bay wins it all but rest assured that the Super Bowl runs through the NFC East right now and the foreseeable future with Hurts at 27 years old, Jayden Daniels at 24 and Jaxson Dart looking like the real deal at 22.

[QUOTE=Archangel1775;20005555]You're conflating the "win now" at all cost with improving and protecting your team in a certain window of opportunity. The QB position is the most important position on the field. Dak Prescott has a contract through 2028. So that window is 2025-2028.

From 2021-2024 Michah Parsons was added to a defense that finished ranked in the last 1/3 of the NFL the previous season. From 2021-2023 they ranked in the Top 5 in most categories if they weren't #1. But what happened in 2024? What changed where the defense ranked basically last? Was it his injury? He only missed 4 games. The problem in those 4 games he missed is nothing really changed when he came back. Then its no secret he is bad against the run. In the NFC East against the Giants, Redskins and Eagles you gotta play the run. My point is, the Cowboys can get more affordable options to play the edge, likely improving the run defense while filling in other positions on that side of the ball with talented depth.

Giving him his desired contract was going to 100% hamstring the team for Dak's window to win. You have to consider the salary cap and depth for those 4 years. That's why Jerry Jones did what he did. Sure, it backfires if Green Bay wins it all but rest assured that the Super Bowl runs through the NFC East right now and the foreseeable future with Hurts at 27 years old, Jayden Daniels at 24 and Jaxson Dart looking like the real deal at 22.[/QUOTE]

So just say you don’t think Parsons is that good.

I'm not a cowboys fan by any stretch but i think they win this trade pretty easily. It isn't just the 2 first round picks and the player. They also save $40 million a year on their salary cap.

As good as Micah, Myles Garrett and TJ Watt are, it is hard for 1 defensive player to impact the team enough to justify that salary.

[QUOTE=carlo16;20005563]So just say you don’t think Parsons is that good.[/QUOTE]

If that's what you summarized in what I wrote, all I have for you is "Go whatever team you're a fan of! "

[QUOTE=ensbergcollecto;20005578]I'm not a cowboys fan by any stretch but i think they win this trade pretty easily. It isn't just the 2 first round picks and the player. They also save $40 million a year on their salary cap.

As good as Micah, Myles Garrett and TJ Watt are, it is hard for 1 defensive player to impact the team enough to justify that salary.[/QUOTE]

Yup. A lot of these franchises pay their best players just to satisfy the fans and stay somewhat relevant. But if you're paying defensive players top dollar, you'd better be getting stellar QB play if you hope to contend (like the Chiefs with Chris Jones/Mahomes).

[QUOTE=erock28;20005544]C'mon Grid, this type of chatter belongs in the NFCN thread. I'm guessing when the Bears acquired Mack you didn't take such a pessimistic tone. While some of what you presented is factual, you're ignoring a bunch of truths as well. His sacks are not down on a per game basis. In fact, his sack per game rate was the highest it's ever been in 2024. His QB hits have been remarkably consistent in just under 2 per game, right about where he was in 2024. The injury you referenced is what took him out of higher consideration for the DPOY award - NO ONE who got a vote played less games than Parsons. Extrapolating his stats would have put him in-line with (or better than) Hendrickson and Garrett - who finished second and third. I mean, he's 26! He's just entering his physical prime. Is it a big gamble that he'll work out in GB? Absolutely - but anyone is a big gamble. To acquire a top 5 pass rusher when pass rushing was your biggest weakness is a major coup. I'm less concerned with run defense with Edgerrin Cooper whizzing from sideline to sideline. If Parsons brings his A game to Wisconsin, this Packers defense is going to be fantastic.[/QUOTE]

Its a bold move! The Pack got Reggie White, gave him a bag of cash, and won the Super Bowl. They did it again with Charles Woodson. And that paid off too!

When the Bears got Mack, they immediately won the North and were a playoff team. He made a difference. But he was also a year removed from winning D Player of the year. And not finishing in 20th place, like Parsons. The Bears also didnt give up a good starting player either. The Bears also regretted it, as losing those 2 1st round picks hurt. And they had to dump Mack and rebuild. Which might happen here as well. Its all risk.

I dont agree with you crowing about him getting D POTY votes, for playing in 4 fewer games. He got 2 votes, just to be clear. Two.

Surtain got 320. Hendrickson 203. Garrett 157. Watt 111. Parson, 2... Two votes for the best D player, and is now the highest paid defender in league history. The highest paid non-QB to be exact. Two votes as the best.

[QUOTE=ensbergcollecto;20005578]I'm not a cowboys fan by any stretch but i think they win this trade pretty easily. It isn't just the 2 first round picks and the player. They also save $40 million a year on their salary cap.

[/QUOTE]

Not only do the Cowboys get Kenny Clark, but the Packers already paid his $17.5MIL signing bonus. Plus paid his $7.5MIL roster bonus.

So they Cowboys not only get him, but they get him "cheap".

Meanwhile, the Packers have to eat $18.065MIL on the 2025 salary cap and $17.007MIL on the 2026 cap for Clark. Plus pay Micah.

Right now, Cowboys win. If they draft junk guys with those picks, and GB wins the Super Bowl or Parsons wins Player of the year. Packers win.

[QUOTE=Grid;20005641]Not only do the Cowboys get Kenny Clark, but the Packers already paid his $17.5MIL signing bonus. Plus paid his $7.5MIL roster bonus.

So they Cowboys not only get him, but they get him "cheap".

Meanwhile, the Packers have to eat $18.065MIL on the 2025 salary cap and $17.007MIL on the 2026 cap for Clark. Plus pay Micah.

Right now, Cowboys win. If they draft junk guys with those picks, and GB wins the Super Bowl or Parsons wins Player of the year. Packers win.[/QUOTE]

Really good points on the financial side of the game.

Can someone tell me the over/under for Cowboys win total prior to trade? After trade?

Ultimately that is your answer to who "won" or "lost" the trade

People love the Jerry hate but the guy's a genius for getting out of the Micah deal before it started and also grabbing a haul for him. Bad bad move for the Pack which might not hurt them in the short term this season and next, but they'll miss those first round picks.

So many crazy people in this thread. I’m enjoying it

[QUOTE=Grid;20005601]Its a bold move! The Pack got Reggie White, gave him a bag of cash, and won the Super Bowl. They did it again with Charles Woodson. And that paid off too!

When the Bears got Mack, they immediately won the North and were a playoff team. He made a difference. But he was also a year removed from winning D Player of the year. And not finishing in 20th place, like Parsons. The Bears also didnt give up a good starting player either. The Bears also regretted it, as losing those 2 1st round picks hurt. And they had to dump Mack and rebuild. Which might happen here as well. Its all risk.

I dont agree with you crowing about him getting D POTY votes, for playing in 4 fewer games. He got 2 votes, just to be clear. Two.

Surtain got 320. Hendrickson 203. Garrett 157. Watt 111. Parson, 2... Two votes for the best D player, and is now the highest paid defender in league history. The highest paid non-QB to be exact. Two votes as the best.[/QUOTE]

Looking back on Mack, yeah, it was a mistake bc we didn't win the SB. But I believe that 2018 team (double-doink year) was good enough to win the SB. The D was SB-caliber and Mitch was pretty good at managing the offense.

For the NFCN though, this year will be the most difficult bc the Packers are definitely better. The financial/draft repercussions won't set it until this season is over.

As a Packers fan, I love it. Green Bay only seems to get the 1st round pick right half the time anyway. The team has a knack of overachieving in the rest of the draft. It's as good of year as any. The Vikings effectively have a rookie QB, the Bears are who we thought they were, and we will see if Detroit was a fluke last year.

[QUOTE=f2tornado;20005703]As a Packers fan, I love it. Green Bay only seems to get the 1st round pick right half the time anyway. The team has a knack of overachieving in the rest of the draft. It's as good of year as any. The Vikings effectively have a rookie QB, the Bears are who we thought they were, and we will see if Detroit was a fluke last year.[/QUOTE]

Fluke last year? They won the NFC north and made it to the NFC champ. game the year before last.

[QUOTE=Grid;20005641]Not only do the Cowboys get Kenny Clark, but the Packers already paid his $17.5MIL signing bonus. Plus paid his $7.5MIL roster bonus.

So they Cowboys not only get him, but they get him "cheap".

Meanwhile, the Packers have to eat $18.065MIL on the 2025 salary cap and $17.007MIL on the 2026 cap for Clark. Plus pay Micah.

Right now, Cowboys win. If they draft junk guys with those picks, and GB wins the Super Bowl or Parsons wins Player of the year. Packers win.[/QUOTE]

There is no doubt the Packers have to win a Bowl to truly win this trade. Even if they wind up in cap purgatory and have to rebuild, one Lombardi makes it worth it. That said, they're really only in a tough spot for 2026. The upcoming free agent list features a bunch of guys who are decent but no "must keeps" - R. Walker the best of the bunch followed by Doubs, Watson, Rhyan and Q. Walker. If signing Parsons means they can't retain any of them, I think most Packers fans would be totally okay with it.

As a Packer fan I like it. However I admit that there is bias involved as well as my opinion that 1st round draft picks are a vastly overrated commodity and Kenny Clark's best days are (probably) behind him.

[QUOTE=Grid;20005601]Its a bold move! The Pack got Reggie White, gave him a bag of cash, and won the Super Bowl. They did it again with Charles Woodson. And that paid off too!

When the Bears got Mack, they immediately won the North and were a playoff team. He made a difference. But he was also a year removed from winning D Player of the year. And not finishing in 20th place, like Parsons. The Bears also didnt give up a good starting player either. The Bears also regretted it, as losing those 2 1st round picks hurt. And they had to dump Mack and rebuild. Which might happen here as well. Its all risk.

I dont agree with you crowing about him getting D POTY votes, for playing in 4 fewer games. He got 2 votes, just to be clear. Two.

Surtain got 320. Hendrickson 203. Garrett 157. Watt 111. Parson, 2... Two votes for the best D player, and is now the highest paid defender in league history. The highest paid non-QB to be exact. Two votes as the best.[/QUOTE]

He got votes and played in only 13 games, that means something. Their defense as a whole was nothing short of bad - really no one else on their front 7 really needed to be accounted for. Game plan for Parsons and handle the rest 1v1. He still put up per game stats that rivaled Hendrickson and Garrett. Sticking him opposite Gary and with Cooper in the middle? If Parsons doesn't get his that means other guys will, as the supporting cast is too talented to handle 1v1. That is the mark of a true defensive superstar.

[QUOTE=erock28;20005737]There is no doubt the Packers have to win a Bowl to truly win this trade. Even if they wind up in cap purgatory and have to rebuild, one Lombardi makes it worth it. That said, they're really only in a tough spot for 2026. The upcoming free agent list features a bunch of guys who are decent but no "must keeps" - R. Walker the best of the bunch followed by Doubs, Watson, Rhyan and Q. Walker. If signing Parsons means they can't retain any of them, I think most Packers fans would be totally okay with it.[/QUOTE]

They are in good shape this season for sure. As Parsons will count based on the final year of his rookie deal.

2026 Parsons is $48MIL, Gary is $28MIL, Jenkins is $25MIL, Banks is $25MIL and Love is $37MIL. They will have to juggle then. As they already have a ton of money pushed into void years on Love.

Love is $45MIL in 2027, $76MIl in 2028 and not even under contract past that, and will still be paid $50MIL or something in voids.

Pack is all in right now. Lets see what happens.

[QUOTE=Grid;20005641]Not only do the Cowboys get Kenny Clark, but the Packers already paid his $17.5MIL signing bonus. Plus paid his $7.5MIL roster bonus.

So they Cowboys not only get him, but they get him "cheap".
[/QUOTE]

The Cowboys get some flexibility, for sure. But Clark only comes cheap this year. Then he'll either be gone - which means they'll then have to replace the production of two good players - or he'll be a $20mil/year guy into his 30's.
Getting out from under the massive contract of a star player only pays dividends if you end up replacing his production for less money. Which is far from a sure thing here.

We are going to see the run game continue to grow as so much money is being spend on pass rushers. Reggie White was dominant against the run, alot of these guys not so much.

Packers got a top 5 defensive player for 2 picks that likely will be end of round picks and a player who has been good but never great and going into the 10 year in the NFL.

Anyone who says Dallas won this trade is either a idiot or a butt hurt Cowboys fan who is mad that Parsons is gone. Parsons got paid yes but he's a top player in the league everyone who gets those contracts are overpaid but it's the part of doing business now.

GB took a risk with handing out this type of contract and it will effect how they can sign players in the future there is no doubt on that. But I think any fan of any team if you can get the chance to add a player who can be generational and a game changer you will do this trade anytime as it will make your team better right now when your goal is to win Super Bowls.

Personally I never thought this deal would happen as I thought GB would never give up the picks or take the cap hits. But I am glad to be wrong on this as Gute to a huge swing here and am glad he's taking a big gamble to add such a player as Parsons.

This only helps GB chances to win a SB in the next few years. Worry about the future later. Everyone thought a few years ago GB once Rodgers left was going to suck for years. Proof that does not have to happen so why not take a risk now to win.

Hoping this puts GB over the top and come Feb. 2026 Parsons is holding up the Lombardi.

GO PACK GO

Getting caught up on the ESPN talking heads clips on this is a fun afternoon. They are pretty unified in their derision for the Cowboys regarding this deal.

[QUOTE=mjekase;20005811]The Cowboys get some flexibility, for sure. But Clark only comes cheap this year. Then he'll either be gone - which means they'll then have to replace the production of two good players - or he'll be a $20mil/year guy into his 30's.
Getting out from under the massive contract of a star player only pays dividends if you end up replacing his production for less money. Which is far from a sure thing here.[/QUOTE]

Clark isn't just cheap this year. He is dirt cheap. $2MIL for the Cowboys. And why would they get rid of him instead of paying $20MIL per next year? $20MIL is nothing. Thats not even top 15 money.

Chris Jones is making $32MIL per. And he is already 31. Clark is 29 years old now. He will be 30 starting the 2026 season. That isn't really "into his 30's".

Clark will average the Cowboys $14MIL over the next 3 years. That knocks him out of the top 25 highest on averages. For a 3 X Pro Bowler, who just played in one last year. His production would really have to fall apart to cut bait.

[QUOTE=Blamo;20005860]Getting caught up on the ESPN talking heads clips on this is a fun afternoon. They are pretty unified in their derision for the Cowboys regarding this deal.[/QUOTE]

Usually these talking heads commend the team getting the star player. It's the easiest to explain and the laziest take.

It's also a bonus/ratings boost if they get to trash the Cowboys.

Win-win (win-win-win?)

Full breakdown...

2025
$44M signing bonus
$1.17M base salary (fully gtd)

2026
$38M option bonus (fully gtd)
$2.387M base salary (fully gtd)

2027
$34.443M option bonus (fully gtd)
$3.107M base salary (injury gtd)

2028
$40.55M base salary (partially injury gtd)

2029
$43.55M base salary
$1M 90-man bonus

* $200K per-game active bonus each year
* $250K workout bonus each year

The new money base value is four years, $186 million, with another $2M available in escalators and incentives.

Including the year Parsons had left on his old contract, it's five years, $210M total.

[QUOTE=packman80;20005942]Full breakdown...

2025
$44M signing bonus
$1.17M base salary (fully gtd)

2026
$38M option bonus (fully gtd)
$2.387M base salary (fully gtd)

2027
$34.443M option bonus (fully gtd)
$3.107M base salary (injury gtd)

2028
$40.55M base salary (partially injury gtd)

2029
$43.55M base salary
$1M 90-man bonus

* $200K per-game active bonus each year
* $250K workout bonus each year

The new money base value is four years, $186 million, with another $2M available in escalators and incentives.

Including the year Parsons had left on his old contract, it's five years, $210M total.[/QUOTE]

Parsons making more than Mahomes per season is wild. Hopefully he brings as much postseason success to the Green Bay as he did in Dallas.

The Vikings are paying a total of $48M for Jonathan Greenard, Andrew Van Ginkel, Jonathan Allen, and Javon Hargrave this season (2025 cap numbers).

Overrated diva IMO. Earlier in his career, he was great but he's kept sliding since then.

[QUOTE=ReggieBush22;20005968]Overrated diva IMO. Earlier in his career, he was great but he's kept sliding since then.[/QUOTE]

LOL He's got over 12 sacks in each of his 4 years in the league. Only Reggie White has done that. Tell us you know nothing about football without telling us you know nothing about football.

[QUOTE=packman80;20005976]LOL He's got over 12 sacks in each of his 4 years in the league. Only Reggie White has done that. Tell us you know nothing about football without telling us you know nothing about football.[/QUOTE]

One can sacrifice the ability to stop the run to rack up sacks. He's without a doubt one of 5 most explosive rushers off the edge EVER but every time I watch him, he underwhelms. Maybe I caught him in his bad games. I don't see that fire constantly that true GOAT tier rushers need. He comes off diva-ish to me also. I could be wrong but that's my take.

Contract is set up for 3 years with balloon cap numbers in year 4 & 5 making the Packers need to redo the contract before year 4 if they want to keep Parsons.

2025 Cap $9.97 million
2026 Cap $19.237 million
2027 Cap $26.8456 million
2028 Cap $64.2886 million
2029 Cap $68.2886 million

Void years $21.3746 million

Micah Parsons ranks second in PFF WAR since 2021. What is WAR good for?

[QUOTE=Siberian13;20006013]Micah Parsons ranks second in PFF WAR since 2021. What is WAR good for?[/QUOTE]

It was his mistress that suggested he changed the name

To use the old Lloyd Bentsen quote about JFK: “I know Reggie White, I watched Reggie White play and you Micah Parsons are no Reggie White.”
This is not sour grapes talking.
I’m 48. I’ve been a Cowboys and pro football fan my whole life. Reggie White is one of my all time favorite players. They may have similar sack totals but Parsons is not near the disruptive force, run stopper and one of the all around great defensive players Reggie was.
I was reading some Packer forums last night and Packer fans think this was like when they got Reggie White in free agency. I promise you will be disappointed.
This is not White to the Packers or Haley to the Cowboys, or Deion to the Niners then the Cowboys.

[QUOTE=asujbl;20006029]It was his mistress that suggested he changed the name[/QUOTE]

Change your name to OJ, it’s only two initials.

[QUOTE=Siberian13;20006054]Change your name to OJ, it’s only two initials.[/QUOTE]

It was either OJ Riffken or Deion Riffken

[QUOTE=asujbl;20006061]It was either OJ Riffken or Deion Riffken[/QUOTE]

It’s crazy that 7 months after that episode Nicole Brown was murdered

[QUOTE=asujbl;20005171]50% wrong

I said he would be the highest paid player. He is

I said there was no chance Dallas would let him leave because they aren’t idiots. Wrong[/QUOTE]

You said they aren’t idiots? I don’t read ALL your posts, maybe 98%. I missed that one.

Jerry Jones is a colossal idiot.

[QUOTE=oldgoldy97;20006071]You said they aren’t idiots? I don’t read ALL your posts, maybe 98%. I missed that one.

Jerry Jones is a colossal idiot.[/QUOTE]

Pretzel

The Cowboys were giant idiots for this trade. I said they would never trade him

I said he would be the highest paid player ever. Check
I said the Cowboys would never be dumb enough to do what they did. No check

To clarify

[QUOTE=Dallas Cowboys;20006050]To use the old Lloyd Bentsen quote about JFK: “I know Reggie White, I watched Reggie White play and you Micah Parsons are no Reggie White.”
This is not sour grapes talking.
I’m 48. I’ve been a Cowboys and pro football fan my whole life. Reggie White is one of my all time favorite players. They may have similar sack totals but Parsons is not near the disruptive force, run stopper and one of the all around great defensive players Reggie was.
I was reading some Packer forums last night and Packer fans think this was like when they got Reggie White in free agency. I promise you will be disappointed.
This is not White to the Packers or Haley to the Cowboys, or Deion to the Niners then the Cowboys.[/QUOTE]

He’s like Herschel to the Vikes: a massive overpay.