Prizm Print Run
 

According to the checklist just posted on Panini's website there are approximately 48000 TOTAL autographs.

If even 10% of those are in retail that means only 1800 hobby cases are being produced - roughly comparable to prizm NBA.

With everything they are including that wasn't in NBA (reds, blacks, black autos etc.) initial demand will be insane. If anyone is still able to lock this in at MAPP or below it's a no brainer.

What % do you think they're holding back for replacements? 5%?

Man I hope your numbers are right.

Panini doing it right with this product!

[QUOTE=pnft17;4099315]Man I hope your numbers are right.[/QUOTE]

the checklist lists the serial numbering for every auto, and there are (roughly) 48k total including prizm & finite parallels. if the checklist is correct the print run numbers are at least close.

the only question would be what percentage of autos end up in retail. i'm figuring 10% as a minimum. obviously a higher percentage in retail would mean the hobby print run is even smaller.

Yeah, I'd guess a little more in retail.

Hobby probably will be in 1,500 cases.

Any guess on what Topps Chrome print run was.

I was a little late on the preorder train, but asked my LCS to hold at least three boxes for me when he gets them from the distributor.

Do you work for Panini? We get it you LOVE this product, let's just wait and see shall we?

[QUOTE=friarbolt;4099575]Do you work for Panini? We get it you LOVE this product, let's just wait and see shall we?[/QUOTE]

Was that directed towards me? I am pretty sure this is the first time I have commented on the Prizm release.

Grrrrr Gronk has 3 autos /5 /3 and /1 i wont bother with the /1 but to get one of the /5 and /3 is going to cost me. :(

[QUOTE=BlueReloaded;4099606]Was that directed towards me? I am pretty sure this is the first time I have commented on the Prizm release.[/QUOTE]

No, it was directed at the OP who has been very active in trying to pump up this product in multiple threads lately.

[QUOTE=friarbolt;4099616]No, it was directed at the OP who has been very active in trying to pump up this product in multiple threads lately.[/QUOTE]

Ahh ok. Quotes are your friends....

:)!

[QUOTE=friarbolt;4099616]No, it was directed at the OP who has been very active in trying to pump up this product in multiple threads lately.[/QUOTE]


no, i've been active in trying to correct negative misinformation being posted about it in other threads because I hate BS.

the point of this thread was to let people know demand is going to be >>> supply, so anyone who wants it to rip or flip and can still get in at a decent price (MAPP or below) doesn't wait.

[QUOTE=phil;4098786]According to the checklist just posted on Panini's website there are approximately 48000 TOTAL autographs.

If even 10% of those are in retail that means only 1800 hobby cases are being produced - roughly comparable to prizm NBA.

With everything they are including that wasn't in NBA (reds, blacks, black autos etc.) initial demand will be insane. If anyone is still able to lock this in at MAPP or below it's a no brainer.[/QUOTE]

I counted the total number of autos to be 50516.

Autos in retail are 1 per retail box, and I assume they will make at the very least 500 cases of retail. Unfortunately, I don't know how many boxes there are per retail case.

[QUOTE=JusRelax;4100982]I counted the total number of autos to be 50516.

Autos in retail are 1 per retail box, and I assume they will make at the very least 500 cases of retail. Unfortunately, I don't know how many boxes there are per retail case.[/QUOTE]


20 boxes per retail case

great...more low print run Bradshaw stuff for me to chase down. He's got autos of /5, /3. and /1...plus the base parallels. This sh*t is getting old.

[QUOTE=phil;4101103]20 boxes per retail case[/QUOTE]



And Hobby is 12 boxes per case.

[QUOTE=mindbinge;4101225]great...more low print run Bradshaw stuff for me to chase down. He's got autos of /5, /3. and /1...plus the base parallels. This sh*t is getting old.[/QUOTE]

Don't go after them and waste your money on this product. Save your $ for his Topps cards.

[QUOTE=pnft17;4101283]Don't go after them and waste your money on this product. Save your $ for his Topps cards.[/QUOTE]

not an option.

[QUOTE=mindbinge;4101382]not an option.[/QUOTE]

lol well it is an option you just choose not to take that option. You can't choose to collect every single card of someone then moan about low print runs :p

I'm going to buy a case and actually try to hold it for a few years

[QUOTE=trixstar;4101393]lol well it is an option you just choose not to take that option. You can't choose to collect every single card of someone then moan about low print runs :p[/QUOTE]

no, it's not an option at this point....and yes i can moan about whatever i want to moan about. I just said the sh*t is getting old.

[QUOTE=armyatc22;4101402]I'm going to buy a case and actually try to hold it for a few years[/QUOTE]

you have more will power than me lol...i'd rip in to it before it warmed up from being in the back of the UPS truck. I've tried to hold stuff before like that...can't do it lol.

[QUOTE=armyatc22;4101402]I'm going to buy a case and actually try to hold it for a few years[/QUOTE]

LOL, you have way more will power then i!

edit: nevermind

Was debating getting in on this, but looked at the prices of basketball prizm cases (even after their huge hype boom), and you'd be lucky to get close to $1400 for a case now. After ebay fees and shipping, only a >$100 profit does not sound great.

That is even IF football does as well as basketball does, which I highly doubt it will.

Best of luck to people on their breaks!

[QUOTE=mindbinge;4101415]no, it's not an option at this point....and yes i can moan about whatever i want to moan about. I just said the sh*t is getting old.[/QUOTE]

Why is it not an option? Don't buy them. Who knows even if they hit the market. Maybe you will get lucky and none of the nine never hit Ebay or come up for sale.

The problem is BKB Golds sell for 10x more than what I think the FB Golds will sell for.

BKB and FB are VERY different markets. BKB fans were STARVING for a "Chrome-Like" product. FB already has a handful of similar products out there from Topps.

[QUOTE=pnft17;4103957]Why is it not an option? Don't buy them. Who knows even if they hit the market. Maybe you will get lucky and none of the nine never hit Ebay or come up for sale.[/QUOTE]

because at this point, its been 7+ years of collecting Bradshaw stuff and I'm not going to just walk away from some random set. I need it for my collection, so I'll go after it just like I do everything else...but it just gets to be annoying with all the low print run crap...like Timeless Treasures...I'm still working on that junk as well...who knows how long it's going to take to track it down.

Like i said...gets old.

On the flip side, it's fun to complete a run of something...but, takes forever most of the time.

[QUOTE=mindbinge;4104062]because at this point, its been 7+ years of collecting Bradshaw stuff and I'm not going to just walk away from some random set. I need it for my collection, so I'll go after it just like I do everything else...but it just gets to be annoying with all the low print run crap...like Timeless Treasures...I'm still working on that junk as well...who knows how long it's going to take to track it down.

Like i said...gets old.

On the flip side, it's fun to complete a run of something...but, takes forever most of the time.[/QUOTE]

Would be amazing if you did land all three versions of his auto from Prizm.

[QUOTE=pnft17;4104109]Would be amazing if you did land all three versions of his auto from Prizm.[/QUOTE]

yeah...I got lucky on the Crown Choice's this year and got the /25, /10, and someone here sold me the 1/1...had them all in hand before they were even listed in Beckett....but, most of the time it doesn't work out that way lol.

What vets autos are on peoples radar.. Kinda glad JPP has 49 and 25. So he should be gettable...Love look of his card. Claymaker on the other hand is going to be spendy with his print run so low
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