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MarshallCutler6 04-17-2013 07:43 PM

Most Underrated players in the Game Right now?
 
Mine would be


Pitcher:

Paul Maholm 3-0 0.00 ERA

Mike Minor 2-0 0.69 ERA


Position:

Nate Schierholtz .361 2 HR 8 RBI

Jean Segura .415 1HR 3 RBI

Austin Jackson .393 1 Hr 6 RBI .448 OBP

Coco Crisp .333 4HR 8 RBI

John Buck .326 6 HR 19 RBI

WHo are yours?

lawjawjones 04-17-2013 07:46 PM

Jean Segura

jt_1985_2004 04-17-2013 07:47 PM

[QUOTE=MarshallCutler6;4706981]Mine would be


Pitcher:

[B]Paul Maholm 3-0 0.00 ERA[/B]


Position:

Nate Schierholtz .361 2 HR 8 RBI


WHo are yours?[/QUOTE]

I agree with this...not sure about the hitter.

MikeWilliamsFan 04-17-2013 07:49 PM

I say over their careers Beltre, Thome, Helton, more that I forget

MarshallCutler6 04-17-2013 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=MikeWilliamsFan;4707018]I say over their careers Beltre, Thome, Helton, more that I forget[/QUOTE]

Im more referring to so far this year, altough I agree with you on all three accounts.

Homerun 04-17-2013 07:52 PM

Paul Konerko, even though I'm a homer lol.

MarshallCutler6 04-17-2013 07:56 PM

[QUOTE=Homerun;4707041]Paul Konerko, even though I'm a homer lol.[/QUOTE]

I completely agree, but like I said Im more referring to this year, and he hasnt started off too hot. Hes the only White Sox I have any respect for.

steveO 04-17-2013 07:56 PM

Right now, I have to agree with Maholm....guy has been a machine so far this season, playing on a great Braves team.

The other I'd like to mention will make me seem like a homer, but I have to say Austin Jackson. So far this season he has done nothing but get on base, and score runs. I think it really brings to light that last season just wasn't a fluke for him; I really think the change he made in his swing last year impacted him greatly....he's hitting .393, 19 runs scored and an OBP of .448 so far this year. Now obviously its still early in the season, and a small sample size, but it seems he's picking up where he left off last season, even adding on to it

Headbando5 04-17-2013 07:59 PM

Mike Morse hittin BOMBS boi.

teosdesserts 04-17-2013 08:00 PM

Paul Maholm 3-0 0.00 ERA Fantasy team:flex:

Markakis
Wieters
Zobrist

phillies347 04-17-2013 08:00 PM

Coco Crisp!

KC35 04-17-2013 08:01 PM

John Buck

TEN CHARACTERS

death2redemptions 04-17-2013 08:02 PM

Pitchers- Paul Maholm and Mike Minor
Hitters- Paul Konerko and Martin Prado

groundsupport 04-17-2013 08:03 PM

I picked up Buck and Maholm 2 weeks ago. I did good :)

coyne81486 04-17-2013 08:04 PM

justin upton........ honestly look at his numbers

MarshallCutler6 04-17-2013 08:05 PM

[QUOTE=coyne81486;4707151]justin upton........ honestly look at his numbers[/QUOTE]

He isnt underrated at all. Neither is Morse. They are both good, but that is fully expected of them.

Cornerstore 04-17-2013 08:06 PM

Guys this year I feel will keep up close to production will be become higher rated as the year goes on
hitters
Juan Segura
Dexter Fowler without a doubt - top 5 CF IMO
Wilin Rosario
Chris Carter

pitchers
Paul Malholm
Jeff Samarjdzja or however its spelt

KC35 04-17-2013 08:06 PM

[QUOTE=coyne81486;4707151]justin upton........ honestly look at his numbers[/QUOTE]

But he was never underrated...

cardinalscards4 04-17-2013 08:07 PM

Starling Marte

55_marlins_sp 04-17-2013 08:07 PM

Jed Lowrie is actually under-rated.

Hisashi Iwakuma would be my under-rated pitcher.

MarshallCutler6 04-17-2013 08:08 PM

[QUOTE=Cornerstore;4707166]Guys this year I feel will keep up close to production will be become higher rated as the year goes on
hitters
Juan Segura
Dexter Fowler without a doubt - top 5 CF IMO
Wilin Rosario
Chris Carter

pitchers
Paul Malholm
Jeff Samarjdzja or however its spelt[/QUOTE]

I considered putting Shark on there, but I know better than to put 2 players from my favorite team on a list.:)

premium1981 04-17-2013 08:09 PM

Everyone knows who he is, but he is still underrated IMO. CRAIG KIMBREL! If his arm doesn't fall off he could put together one of the best string of years for a closer in the history of the game. Seriously, look up his career stats. It is scary to think that most people improve after they have been in the bigs for a few years.

death2redemptions 04-17-2013 08:11 PM

[QUOTE=premium1981;4707194]Everyone knows who he is, but he is still underrated IMO. CRAIG KIMBREL! If his arm doesn't fall off he could put together one of the best string of years for a closer in the history of the game. Seriously, look up his career stats. It is scary to think that most people improve after they have been in the bigs for a few years.[/QUOTE]

I'm a fan of his :o

teosdesserts 04-17-2013 08:54 PM

[QUOTE=55_marlins_sp;4707183]

Hisashi Iwakuma would be my under-rated pitcher.[/QUOTE]

Fantasy Team:flex:

eaglescubs555 04-17-2013 08:55 PM

Michael Bourn (he just put on 15 day DL)
Starling Marte
Nick Markakis

Matt Harvey (not sure if anyone expected him to be this hot out of the gate)
Paul Malholm

phillies347 04-17-2013 08:56 PM

jyouls chacin
jose fernandez

fert360 04-17-2013 09:13 PM

Brandon Crawford

Ziveus101 04-17-2013 09:24 PM

Vernon Wells
Lyle Overbay
Brennan Boesch
Travis Hafner
Chris Stewart
Francisco Cervelli

Yes I'm a homer but I don't think I'm alone in thinking that almost all of these guys have been performing surprisingly well lately (which is to say that the first 4 guys are basically doing what Ibanez and Jones did last year, actually help the Yankees in their time of need).

aggies1960 04-17-2013 09:55 PM

is torii hunter under rated or no, has a 10 game hitting streak right now and hitting .400

HOFcollector 04-17-2013 09:56 PM

starling marte, hitting .375 in the leadoff spot, 10 game hitting streak

DtigersFan 04-17-2013 10:20 PM

Clay Buchholz

MarshallCutler6 04-18-2013 04:39 PM

[QUOTE=DtigersFan;4708315]Clay Buchholz[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't consider him underrated really.




Wellington Castillo is now hitting about .420. I think he deserves a spot on here but I need someone else to say it so I don't look like a homer:devil:

danimal875 04-18-2013 04:44 PM

[QUOTE=MarshallCutler6;4707079]I completely agree, but like I said Im more referring to this year, and he hasnt started off too hot. Hes the only White Sox I have any respect for.[/QUOTE]


Your question is not worded correctly. Underrated implies a long term disregard for someone or something's performance. Your suggestions are more like "players who have gotten off to hot starts or are playing over their heads." To imply that someone who is vastly outplaying their prior performance on the major league level or just starting their major league career, is underrated is overstating the facts.

CALVINXLIONSX81 04-18-2013 04:49 PM

[QUOTE=eaglescubs555;4707631]Michael Bourn (he just put on 15 day DL)
Starling Marte
Nick Markakis

Matt Harvey (not sure if anyone expected him to be this hot out of the gate)
Paul Malholm[/QUOTE]

Bourn is over-rated if anything...

MarshallCutler6 04-18-2013 04:49 PM

[QUOTE=danimal875;4711858]Your question is not worded correctly. Underrated implies a long term disregard for someone or something's performance. Your suggestions are more like "players who have gotten off to hot starts or are playing over their heads." To imply that someone who is vastly outplaying their prior performance on the major league level or just starting their major league career, is underrated is overstating the facts.[/QUOTE]

My apologies for wording my question wrong. But it appears most everyone else knew what I meant, but you're right I did word it wrong.

RipitRipken 04-18-2013 04:57 PM

[QUOTE=teosdesserts;4707115]Paul Maholm 3-0 0.00 ERA Fantasy team:flex:

Markakis
Wieters
Zobrist[/QUOTE]

How can you name these people but not Adam Jones??? Jones is TEARING it up.

Bjax45 04-18-2013 05:36 PM

Starling Marte and Markakis

duwal 04-18-2013 05:52 PM

[QUOTE=MarshallCutler6;4706981]Mine would be


Pitcher:

Paul Maholm 3-0 0.00 ERA

Mike Minor 2-0 0.69 ERA


Position:

Nate Schierholtz .361 2 HR 8 RBI

Jean Segura .415 1HR 3 RBI

Austin Jackson .393 1 Hr 6 RBI .448 OBP

Coco Crisp .333 4HR 8 RBI

John Buck .326 6 HR 19 RBI

WHo are yours?[/QUOTE]

all of those are not underrated at all, they're just off to hot starts. All of the batters will snap back to normal. Schierholtz won't be underrated as he'll probably finish the year about .270 and 10 homers

yanksfan0134 04-18-2013 06:03 PM

I think Torii Hunter is really underrated. Hitting .411 hes one of the hottest hitters in the game.

Heres some others:
Starling Marte
Jed Lowrie
Dexter Fowler (7 HOME RUNS!)

Jeff Samardzija
Paul Maholm
Jhoulys Chacin (under 2 ERA)
Carlos Villanueva (like a 1 era after today)
Jake Westbrook (Even though he technically gave up 6 runs last start but lucked out because the game got rained out)

TooleTime82288 04-18-2013 06:30 PM

Offense Hot Start/Under-Rated:

C- John Buck 10 R 6 HR 19 RBI .326 AVG 1.066 OPS

1B- Matt Adams 5 R 3 HR 8 RBI .524 AVG 1.613 OPS

2B- Daniel Murphy 13 R 2 HR 11 RBI .340 AVG 1.002 OPS

3B- Todd Frazier 8 R 4 HR 12 RBI 2 SB .278 AVG .900 OPS

SS- Jed Lowrie 14 R 3 HR 13 RBI .373 AVG 1.092 OPS

OF- Torii Hunter 11 R 1 HR 9 RBI .413 AVG 1.026 OPS

OF- Angel Pagan 13 R 8 RBI 1 SB .333 AVG

OF- Dexter Fowler 10 R 6 HR 9 RBI 1 SB .292 AVG 1.090 OPS


SP- Paul Maholm 20.1 IP 3 W 20 K 0.00 ERA 0.79 WHIP 4.00 K/BB

SP- Jeff Samardzija 19.2 IP 1 W 27 K 2.75 ERA 0.97 WHIP 4.50 K/BB

SP- Justin Masterson 27.0 IP 3 W 25 K 1.67 ERA 1.11 WHIP 2.78 K/BB

SP- Jhoulys Chacin 18.1 IP 2 W 11 K 1.96 ERA 0.98 WHIP 2.20 K/BB

SP- Jose Quintana 17.2 IP 1 W 17 K 2.55 ERA 1.02 WHIP 4.25 K/BB

CL- Addison Reed 7.0 IP 1 W 5 SV 6 K 1.29 ERA 0.86 WHIP 2.00 K/BB

I don't view most of these guys as "Under-Rated", but definitely off to hot starts. Of the hitters, I think the only ones that will keep up solid production through the whole year are Torii Hunter and Angel Pagan (both are actually proven players). Jed Lowrie I think will also have good numbers at seasons end. The res of these batters, IMO, will fall back down to earth. As for the pitchers, I think all of them should have good seasons. I see Samardzija as a legitimate Cy Young threat, Maholm as a steady guy although his K rate will decline, and the other 3 SP will have good numbers at years end as well.

By the real definition of "Underrated" I think guys like Paul Konerko, Adam Wainwright, Jordan Zimmerman, Nick Swisher, Adam Laroche, Martin Prado, Asrubal Cabrera, Alex Rios, to name a few.

Chargafan 04-18-2013 06:58 PM

CHASE HEADLEY = Most underrated player in baseball!

Ziveus101 04-18-2013 09:05 PM

Although I'm not a Red Sox fan by any means, I've got bring up my favorite player on the BoSox.

Junichi Tazawa
[img]http://i752.photobucket.com/albums/xx161/mobmax/Japanese%20Stuff/Image143.jpg[/img]

Edit: Koji Uehara's pretty good as well.

MarshallCutler6 04-18-2013 09:21 PM

[QUOTE=TooleTime82288;4712671]Offense Hot Start/Under-Rated:

C- John Buck 10 R 6 HR 19 RBI .326 AVG 1.066 OPS

1B- Matt Adams 5 R 3 HR 8 RBI .524 AVG 1.613 OPS

2B- Daniel Murphy 13 R 2 HR 11 RBI .340 AVG 1.002 OPS

3B- Todd Frazier 8 R 4 HR 12 RBI 2 SB .278 AVG .900 OPS

SS- Jed Lowrie 14 R 3 HR 13 RBI .373 AVG 1.092 OPS

OF- Torii Hunter 11 R 1 HR 9 RBI .413 AVG 1.026 OPS

OF- Angel Pagan 13 R 8 RBI 1 SB .333 AVG

OF- Dexter Fowler 10 R 6 HR 9 RBI 1 SB .292 AVG 1.090 OPS


SP- Paul Maholm 20.1 IP 3 W 20 K 0.00 ERA 0.79 WHIP 4.00 K/BB

SP- Jeff Samardzija 19.2 IP 1 W 27 K 2.75 ERA 0.97 WHIP 4.50 K/BB

SP- Justin Masterson 27.0 IP 3 W 25 K 1.67 ERA 1.11 WHIP 2.78 K/BB

SP- Jhoulys Chacin 18.1 IP 2 W 11 K 1.96 ERA 0.98 WHIP 2.20 K/BB

SP- Jose Quintana 17.2 IP 1 W 17 K 2.55 ERA 1.02 WHIP 4.25 K/BB

CL- Addison Reed 7.0 IP 1 W 5 SV 6 K 1.29 ERA 0.86 WHIP 2.00 K/BB

I don't view most of these guys as "Under-Rated", but definitely off to hot starts. Of the hitters, I think the only ones that will keep up solid production through the whole year are Torii Hunter and Angel Pagan (both are actually proven players). Jed Lowrie I think will also have good numbers at seasons end. The res of these batters, IMO, will fall back down to earth. As for the pitchers, I think all of them should have good seasons. I see Samardzija as a legitimate Cy Young threat, Maholm as a steady guy although his K rate will decline, and the other 3 SP will have good numbers at years end as well.

By the real definition of "Underrated" I think guys like Paul Konerko, Adam Wainwright, Jordan Zimmerman, Nick Swisher, Adam Laroche, Martin Prado, Asrubal Cabrera, Alex Rios, to name a few.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, thats my mistake, I shanked the titiling of this thread.

death2redemptions 04-18-2013 09:40 PM

Surprised nobody has brought up this guy...

Chris Johnson .438 avg (LEADS THE MAJORS) 2 HR 7 RBI 7 R .625slg% 1.063 OPS

711 Cards 04-18-2013 09:47 PM

Pronk! Hafner is a beast

Thommy 04-18-2013 09:55 PM

Pitchers
Matt Moore
Hiroki Kuroda
Chad Billingsley
Alex Cobb

AJ Ellis
Dexter Fowler
Brandon Phillips
Anthony Rizzo

KC35 04-18-2013 10:02 PM

Has anyone mentioned Alex Gordon?

.350 BA
21 Hits
9 RBI
10 R

firefighter1990 04-18-2013 11:47 PM

Paul Konerko

fert360 04-19-2013 12:36 AM

[QUOTE=fert360;4707799]Brandon Crawford[/QUOTE]

Still proving me right!!!!

kubly519 04-19-2013 01:06 AM

Jump on the soon to be 18 game winner at the end of the season...Jordan Zimmermann

kelbysdaddy 04-19-2013 02:21 AM

Between last year and the start of this year Carlos Gomez finally seems to be living up to his potential.

Lastminute73 04-19-2013 03:40 AM

I really don't see how Paul Maholm is underrated. He has not shown any stand out performance before this season and he has only pitched 3 games. With this logic we should have 3 or 4 batters bat 400 this year, a couple guys hit 300 rbis and several pitchers get 35 wins. You could say this about any player who has a hot start, it really means nothing. IMHO

aggies1960 04-20-2013 11:06 PM

anyone say chris johnson yet?

thehueys 04-20-2013 11:19 PM

Michael McKenry!!

MLBRays 04-20-2013 11:57 PM

John Buck in a landslide. He went into the season as the # 831 ranked offensive player(Yahoo) on the board and currently rests at #9. There is no other pitcher or hitter close to that atmosphere.

death2redemptions 04-21-2013 12:17 AM

[QUOTE=aggies1960;4727962]anyone say chris johnson yet?[/QUOTE]

Yup, I did.

aggies1960 04-21-2013 12:25 AM

[QUOTE=death2redemptions;4728408]Yup, I did.[/QUOTE]

ok cool, yeah he is killing it.

death2redemptions 04-21-2013 12:29 AM

[QUOTE=aggies1960;4728433]ok cool, yeah he is killing it.[/QUOTE]

Currently hitting .418 and that leads the majors! Also has got 8 multi-hit games so far this season.

weaponX 04-21-2013 01:54 AM

Munenori Kawasaki

JDubs80 04-21-2013 02:19 AM

Jose Altuve

Cornerstore 04-21-2013 02:52 AM

[QUOTE=Lastminute73;4715549]I really don't see how Paul Maholm is underrated. He has not shown any stand out performance before this season and he has only pitched 3 games. With this logic we should have 3 or 4 batters bat 400 this year, a couple guys hit 300 rbis and several pitchers get 35 wins. You could say this about any player who has a hot start, it really means nothing. IMHO[/QUOTE]

Kind of disagree here, I feel he just needed to be on a solid team, being so long with cubs/pirates, I liked what he brought to table, I think his numbers have a solid chance of staying close to all star levels through the year

JustinVerlander07 04-21-2013 04:46 AM

[QUOTE=MLBRays;4728307]John Buck in a landslide. He went into the season as the # 831 ranked offensive player(Yahoo) on the board and currently rests at #9. There is no other pitcher or hitter close to that atmosphere.[/QUOTE]

That doesn't make him underrated, it means he's likely off to a fluky start (based on a large sample of career numbers), granted this thread is basically a "who has the best 5 game sample size".

MLBRays 04-21-2013 10:56 PM

[QUOTE=JustinVerlander07;4728770]That doesn't make him underrated, it means he's likely off to a fluky start (based on a large sample of career numbers), granted this thread is basically a "who has the best 5 game sample size".[/QUOTE]

Based on the way that the question was asked, the correct answer is John Buck. Leads the major leagues in RBI's and is 2nd in HR's. 15 games in the twilight zone.

89Giants 04-22-2013 12:47 AM

Carlos Santana

StraWMyerS 04-22-2013 10:29 AM

Homer Bailey is underrated he still has enormous potential and its starting to translate more consistently

Lastminute73 04-22-2013 10:51 AM

[QUOTE=Cornerstore;4728698]Kind of disagree here, I feel he just needed to be on a solid team, being so long with cubs/pirates, I liked what he brought to table, I think his numbers have a solid chance of staying close to all star levels through the year[/QUOTE]

I'm not saying he isn't a solid pitcher. I just don't think he is underrated. His innings pitched and strikeouts over the last 5 seasons doesn't say underrated to me.

rcspur 04-22-2013 11:19 AM

Chris Johnson for sure. The Braves killed that trade. Maybe one day we'll all stop doubting Wrenn.

centereacan06 04-22-2013 11:40 AM

Jordan Zimmermann. They showed either his "Swing and miss on FB" percentage or average FB velocity when Harvey pitched against Strasburg and he was up there, I think third in the league.


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