Any chance Rasheed Wallace makes the Hall of Fame?
 

His stats aren't overwhelming but he was a really good player and he played on a several really good teams over the years. I feel like he was a better player than he looks on paper. What do you guys think?

No".............

[QUOTE=TheHeel;9021105]No".............[/QUOTE]

Well, you are concise, I'll give you that.

I don't think so. Hardly any accolades even though he held his own against anyone he played against.

I would love to see it, but it's not happening.

I think he's got a shot. A good player for pretty much his whole career, which was 10 plus years. Not saying he'd be the first choice, but some of the guys inducted lately, i think he's got a shot.

The 03-04 Pistons were a hell of a team and I think he is the acquisition that put them over the top. I'm not sure I think he should be in but I think he's worth considering.

I just hope Bill Fitch makes it.

I think his bad attitude (all of the technical fouls) and short temper will hurt Him. He had some mad game though

I think Dikimbe Mutombo and Spencer Haywood should get in this year. Lisa Leslie too.

I can only imagine how great he could of been if he didn't smoke so much weed.

Both teams played hard

If he buys a ticket.

The Hall of Fame of Technical Fouls maybe, but no way in hell

Sidney Moncrief, Shawn Kemp, Kevin Johnson, George McGinnis, Spencer Haywood, Marques Johnson...

If those guys can't get in (not saying they all deserve to), then there's little chance for Rasheed Wallace.

Would be a sad day for the HOF if Wallace makes it.

He had HOF talent but he never played 100% up to his ability.

Sorry OP, sadly, "no" is the answer.

Has about an 8% chance, just ahead of Elton Brand and behind Steve Francis. Pretty accurate if you ask me.

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I liked him, part of the Jailblazers and Malace at the Palace.

RASHEED
 

He brought it every nite not that many can say the same. I'd vote him in.

I'd guess no, but I'm ok with him getting in. Earlier poster had it right, Pistons don't win their title in 04 without him.

Hall of fame of Technical foul.

Remember that year where he received one every other game?

No way. Good, not great, player.

who?


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Lol @ whack get out!!!

[QUOTE=the27guy;9022172]Sorry OP, sadly, "no" is the answer.[/QUOTE]


I'm not really a big Wallace fan. I was just curious because it seems like the HOF is letting in some players lately that I didn't think of as Hall of Famers.

[QUOTE=JasonM32;9021205]I think Dikimbe Mutombo and Spencer Haywood should get in this year. Lisa Leslie too.[/QUOTE]

yea I agree to that. Both stellar players.

[QUOTE=JasonM32;9021102]His stats aren't overwhelming but he was a really good player and he played on a several really good teams over the years. I feel like he was a better player than he looks on paper. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]

What accomplishments did he have in college? What about internationally a part of an Olympic or World team? What's he best known for?

[QUOTE=JasonM32;9021102]His stats aren't overwhelming but he was a really good player and he played on a several really good teams over the years. I feel like he was a better player than he looks on paper. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]

I agree completely with what you're saying. Rasheed was a big game player that always stood up, similar to Horry but probably a better player.

Sheed is one of the most talented players ever, yet he’s one of the most underrated. One of the most complete players ever, yet he’s one of the most underrated players ever. One of the most unselfish players ever, yet he’s one of the most underrated… Are you getting where I’m going with this? If not, he’s underrated! People remember Sheed as the “crazy guy,” or the all-time leader of technical fouls with 304. Damn that’s a lot, but that just shows how much passion he had. A lot of people consider Tim Duncan the greatest Power Forward ever, but do you know who he said was the toughest matchup for him? Rasheed Wallace. Here goes a quote from Charles Barkley, “ If Rasheed Wallace wanted to, he could be the best player in the NBA.” I’m writing this because no one ever gives credit to Sheed, he’s my favorite player ever and I feel he should be at least considered in the top 5 Power Forwards of all time.

His importance to his team.

He made the Trailblazers and Pistons a contender every year. Rasheed Wallace was traded to the trailblazers in the 96-97 season, the year before that, the Blazers made the playoffs…. But lost in the first round to the Utah Jazz. The year they got Rasheed they made it to the Western conference finals, but lost to the Lakers, second year of Wallace’s career, and he led his team to the Western conference finals. Not a lot of players have done that. Look at the teammates he had when he led them there that year.

7 Kenny Anderson G

17 Vincent Askew G-F

2 Stacey Augmon F-G

9 Rick Brunson G

31 Kelvin Cato C

12 John Crotty G

23 Gary Grant G

19 Sean Higgins G-F

53 Alton Lister C-F

5 Jermaine O'Neal F-C

34 Isaiah Rider G 6-5

4 Carlos Rogers C-F

11 Arvydas Sabonis C

3 Damon Stoudamire G

33 Gary Trent F

30 Rasheed Wallace F-C

21 Alvin Williams G

42 Walt Williams F-G

10 Dontonio Wingfield F

Sabonis was out of his prime, Jermaine O’neal was 17 and sucked. He didn’t have much help. People talk about LeBron and Rose being able to lead their team, look at this team! It’s funny how the media can brainwash people, and make people miss true talent. He led his Blazer to the playoffs every year, but just didn’t have enough to stop Shaq, Kobe, and the Lakers.

Let’s move on to his move to the Pistons, in 04 he was traded to the Pistons, and they won the championship that same year. The Pistons were good before Sheed came, but became great when he arrived. The Pistons got a big man who was unstoppable in the post (when he felt like it) and a great big 3 point shooter. Who was willing not to be the number 1 guy on his team anymore. The whole Detroit Pistons team always said that Rasheed Wallace was the most talented player on their team. Most people considered Chauncey Billups as their best player, but even Billups said it. “Rasheed Wallace is the most talented player on our team.” Without Rasheed Wallace the Piston most likely wouldn’t of got passed the Pacers, and made it to the Finals to beat the Lakers. The combo of Sheed and Big Ben stopped Shaq and Kobe from going off. I know people are going to say, “well Kobe and Shaq weren’t getting along.” Well that’s true, but they still made it to the finals. So if they could beat all those other teams, why couldn’t they beat the Pistons. Sure they probably would’ve beat the Pistons without Rasheed, but they couldn’t because Sheed was there. The Pistons made it to eastern conference finals every year Sheed was there. After he left in the 09-10 season guess what happened to the Pistons? They haven’t made the playoffs since. So this guy could make any team a contender, and can play any role. Wallace’s clutchness was the reason Detroit went to game 7 with the Spurs in the 05. His teammates always called him the team MVP.

Great low post game

To be a great PF you need to have a great post game, Rasheed Wallace has one of the greatest low post players of all time. Most people view Rasheed as 3 point shooter. Which is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, yeah he liked shooting three’s more then he did posting up. But when he felt like it, and got in the post. No one could stop him, all the analysts used to say, “Rasheed should get in the post more, he’s unstoppable in there.” Which is true, he is unstoppable down there. But he picked his spots, and went down there when he needed to. Even Rasheed said what I’m saying right now, here goes the quote. "You know, I don't show my whole package during the beginning of the season. If you do, then that's what's going to be in the scouting report on me. So now, come money time, it'll say that I'm going to go to the turnaround. Yeah, I'm going to turn around, but I'm going to go by you left, by you right, come with the jump hook.”

One of the Greatest 3 point shooting big men of all-time.

Rasheed Wallace could shoot the 3 better than most guards could. Rasheed is a .337 career 3 point shooter, which is great for his size. He could shoot better then anyone in the top 5 PF of all time ( depending on your list)

Passion for the game

Rasheed Wallace is the league leader in technical fouls with 304, most people call him crazy. But to me that just show how much passion he has when he plays. And you have to admit, the fouls they used to call on him were stupid. The refs even admitted that they used to call pointless fouls on him. Anyways Sheed wanted to win, no matter what he wanted to be a winner. Probably more then anyone…. Ever. Yes I said EVER. More than MJ, Kobe, and all the other guys. He didn’t want the refs deciding the game for the teams. (they’ve been known to do that.) if he didn’t want to win that bad, he wouldn’t of went crazy on the refs. With Rasheed it wasn’t about stats, or being the number 1 guy, or having his jersey sold out. As Charlie Sheen said “it’s all about winning!” lol. When he was on the Trailblazers he was the number 1 guy there, as soon as he went to the Pistons he was willing to be the third option, just to win. Not a lot of number 1 options would do that. Actually none of them would.

Trash talking

“ Ball don’t lie, Bogut!” After Andrew Bogut missed his free throw. “ I get paid to do this to you” said Rasheed in practice to Kwame Brown. “Turkododo” is what Sheed calls Turkoglu. I'm not going to start the game by cracking a cat in the skull if I don't get elbowed first.” After he made big Z bleed. "I know we're going to win it," Wallace said sitting on the scorer's table following Sunday practice at Quicken Loans Arena. "We're going to bust their ass. Tomorrow night is the last game here in this building for this year." Saying that about the Cavs. All these great trash talking quotes but no one ever considers him a great trash talker

When I hear a topic about the greatest trash talkers in NBA history, I always hear these names. “ Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Reggie Miller, Gary Payton, ect. Never have I heard Sheed’s name come up. I don’t know why. He’s up there with all of them.

Great basketball IQ

Rasheed Wallace has one of the best basketball IQ’s ever, he knows where to be on the floor, knows when to take over, knows where his teammates are, knows where and when to take shots, and knows when to help out on defense, here goes another quote from Billups, "He's very unselfish," point guard Chauncey Billups says. "He's probably the most talented player we have on the team. His basketball IQ is unbelievable. He knows where to be, what pass to make at what time, what shot to take. He's the best kind of teammate to have." I just said that same thing, I wrote that before I read the quote. There was a poll one time in the NBA it was “who would you want on your team.” Rasheed Wallace got the majority of his votes, the reason being, his basketball IQ. Most analysts during his Detroit even said he has the best basketball IQ.

got_Sheed, I appreciate your passion and that he's obviously one of your favourite players, but unfortunately I think if it takes that many words to justify why someone should be in the HOF (which I am assuming you're in favour of) then that probably means they shouldn't be. Let's face it, getting into the HOF is based on accolades, and sure, Sheed has a Title and some AS appearances under his belt, but so do lots of players who aren't and never will be in the HOF.

I think this is the pertinent quote from your post:

[quote]If Rasheed Wallace [I][B]wanted to[/B][/I], he could be the best player in the NBA.[/quote]

Sorry got sheed but your history is a little off.

The year the blazers made it to the conference finals they had a STACKED squad led by pippen, not sheed. B. Grant was no chump either and he split a lot of mins with sheed. S. Smith, schrempf, stoudamire. Great team and they were robbed by a rigged league that wanted the Lakers to win.

There's nothing more frustrating than the guy with all the talent to be great but is too busy blazing the green sh*t to be special.

Any power forward would struggle to guard Sheed due to his post skill and range, but he didn't lead anybody. He was a role player, like I said earlier, better than Horry but in the same mould.

And I'm a huge fan.

Except for...you know...when he gave 30% every night when he played for the Celtics.

[QUOTE=myusasets;9022442]He brought it every nite not that many can say the same. I'd vote him in.[/QUOTE]

Not in this lifetime.

i'm a major UNC basketball fan but HOF?.... No.

Towel > Sabonis' face

[URL="http://www.slamonline.com/nba/bill-walton-i-shouldve-punched-rasheed-wallace-in-the-face/"]Bill Walton wishes he punched Wallace in face [/URL]

Some leader. :rolleyes:

Like I said before, I just think Rasheed is better than his stats. He was a big time player. Too much baggage though I guess.

[QUOTE=got_Sheed?;9025701]The year they got Rasheed they made it to the Western conference finals, but lost to the Lakers, second year of Wallace’s career, and he led his team to the Western conference finals. Not a lot of players have done that. [/QUOTE]

The year they got Rasheed, they did NOT made to Western Conference Finals.

[QUOTE=xavieronly1;9025880]The year they got Rasheed, they did NOT made to Western Conference Finals.[/QUOTE]

You would think a Rasheed fan would know that.
Maybe he should do some more research and site his sources like a boss. ;)

Hell no. I'm just pissed portland retired 2 players with #30 and not Rasheed, big slap in the face.

[QUOTE=got_Sheed?;9025701]Sheed is one of the most talented players ever, yet he’s one of the most underrated. One of the most complete players ever, yet he’s one of the most underrated players ever. One of the most unselfish players ever, yet he’s one of the most underrated… Are you getting where I’m going with this? If not, he’s underrated! People remember Sheed as the “crazy guy,” or the all-time leader of technical fouls with 304. Damn that’s a lot, but that just shows how much passion he had. A lot of people consider Tim Duncan the greatest Power Forward ever, but do you know who he said was the toughest matchup for him? Rasheed Wallace. Here goes a quote from Charles Barkley, “ If Rasheed Wallace wanted to, he could be the best player in the NBA.” I’m writing this because no one ever gives credit to Sheed, he’s my favorite player ever and I feel he should be at least considered in the top 5 Power Forwards of all time.

His importance to his team.

He made the Trailblazers and Pistons a contender every year. Rasheed Wallace was traded to the trailblazers in the 96-97 season, the year before that, the Blazers made the playoffs…. But lost in the first round to the Utah Jazz. The year they got Rasheed they made it to the Western conference finals, but lost to the Lakers, second year of Wallace’s career, and he led his team to the Western conference finals. Not a lot of players have done that. Look at the teammates he had when he led them there that year.

7 Kenny Anderson G

17 Vincent Askew G-F

2 Stacey Augmon F-G

9 Rick Brunson G

31 Kelvin Cato C

12 John Crotty G

23 Gary Grant G

19 Sean Higgins G-F

53 Alton Lister C-F

5 Jermaine O'Neal F-C

34 Isaiah Rider G 6-5

4 Carlos Rogers C-F

11 Arvydas Sabonis C

3 Damon Stoudamire G

33 Gary Trent F

30 Rasheed Wallace F-C

21 Alvin Williams G

42 Walt Williams F-G

10 Dontonio Wingfield F

Sabonis was out of his prime, Jermaine O’neal was 17 and sucked. He didn’t have much help. People talk about LeBron and Rose being able to lead their team, look at this team! It’s funny how the media can brainwash people, and make people miss true talent. He led his Blazer to the playoffs every year, but just didn’t have enough to stop Shaq, Kobe, and the Lakers.

Let’s move on to his move to the Pistons, in 04 he was traded to the Pistons, and they won the championship that same year. The Pistons were good before Sheed came, but became great when he arrived. The Pistons got a big man who was unstoppable in the post (when he felt like it) and a great big 3 point shooter. Who was willing not to be the number 1 guy on his team anymore. The whole Detroit Pistons team always said that Rasheed Wallace was the most talented player on their team. Most people considered Chauncey Billups as their best player, but even Billups said it. “Rasheed Wallace is the most talented player on our team.” Without Rasheed Wallace the Piston most likely wouldn’t of got passed the Pacers, and made it to the Finals to beat the Lakers. The combo of Sheed and Big Ben stopped Shaq and Kobe from going off. I know people are going to say, “well Kobe and Shaq weren’t getting along.” Well that’s true, but they still made it to the finals. So if they could beat all those other teams, why couldn’t they beat the Pistons. Sure they probably would’ve beat the Pistons without Rasheed, but they couldn’t because Sheed was there. The Pistons made it to eastern conference finals every year Sheed was there. After he left in the 09-10 season guess what happened to the Pistons? They haven’t made the playoffs since. So this guy could make any team a contender, and can play any role. Wallace’s clutchness was the reason Detroit went to game 7 with the Spurs in the 05. His teammates always called him the team MVP.

Great low post game

To be a great PF you need to have a great post game, Rasheed Wallace has one of the greatest low post players of all time. Most people view Rasheed as 3 point shooter. Which is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, yeah he liked shooting three’s more then he did posting up. But when he felt like it, and got in the post. No one could stop him, all the analysts used to say, “Rasheed should get in the post more, he’s unstoppable in there.” Which is true, he is unstoppable down there. But he picked his spots, and went down there when he needed to. Even Rasheed said what I’m saying right now, here goes the quote. "You know, I don't show my whole package during the beginning of the season. If you do, then that's what's going to be in the scouting report on me. So now, come money time, it'll say that I'm going to go to the turnaround. Yeah, I'm going to turn around, but I'm going to go by you left, by you right, come with the jump hook.”

One of the Greatest 3 point shooting big men of all-time.

Rasheed Wallace could shoot the 3 better than most guards could. Rasheed is a .337 career 3 point shooter, which is great for his size. He could shoot better then anyone in the top 5 PF of all time ( depending on your list)

Passion for the game

Rasheed Wallace is the league leader in technical fouls with 304, most people call him crazy. But to me that just show how much passion he has when he plays. And you have to admit, the fouls they used to call on him were stupid. The refs even admitted that they used to call pointless fouls on him. Anyways Sheed wanted to win, no matter what he wanted to be a winner. Probably more then anyone…. Ever. Yes I said EVER. More than MJ, Kobe, and all the other guys. He didn’t want the refs deciding the game for the teams. (they’ve been known to do that.) if he didn’t want to win that bad, he wouldn’t of went crazy on the refs. With Rasheed it wasn’t about stats, or being the number 1 guy, or having his jersey sold out. As Charlie Sheen said “it’s all about winning!” lol. When he was on the Trailblazers he was the number 1 guy there, as soon as he went to the Pistons he was willing to be the third option, just to win. Not a lot of number 1 options would do that. Actually none of them would.

Trash talking

“ Ball don’t lie, Bogut!” After Andrew Bogut missed his free throw. “ I get paid to do this to you” said Rasheed in practice to Kwame Brown. “Turkododo” is what Sheed calls Turkoglu. I'm not going to start the game by cracking a cat in the skull if I don't get elbowed first.” After he made big Z bleed. "I know we're going to win it," Wallace said sitting on the scorer's table following Sunday practice at Quicken Loans Arena. "We're going to bust their ass. Tomorrow night is the last game here in this building for this year." Saying that about the Cavs. All these great trash talking quotes but no one ever considers him a great trash talker

When I hear a topic about the greatest trash talkers in NBA history, I always hear these names. “ Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Reggie Miller, Gary Payton, ect. Never have I heard Sheed’s name come up. I don’t know why. He’s up there with all of them.

Great basketball IQ

Rasheed Wallace has one of the best basketball IQ’s ever, he knows where to be on the floor, knows when to take over, knows where his teammates are, knows where and when to take shots, and knows when to help out on defense, here goes another quote from Billups, "He's very unselfish," point guard Chauncey Billups says. "He's probably the most talented player we have on the team. His basketball IQ is unbelievable. He knows where to be, what pass to make at what time, what shot to take. He's the best kind of teammate to have." I just said that same thing, I wrote that before I read the quote. There was a poll one time in the NBA it was “who would you want on your team.” Rasheed Wallace got the majority of his votes, the reason being, his basketball IQ. Most analysts during his Detroit even said he has the best basketball IQ.[/QUOTE]



I'm lost..... We got sheed in 96-97 yes but we made the WCF in 98-99 vs the Spurs with a very deep team with jimmy jackson, Damon, and Rider. Made the WCF again in 99-00 vs the Lakers and we don't need to talk about that series... Still sad about that.