Would you be upset if an LCS did this? I was LIVID and lost faith in the hobby
 

So I took off the day from work to make an hour and a half trip to an LCS outside of my city. I normally frequent my main 2 where I'm from, but it was pretty outside and I just really wanted to go see someplace different. Haven't been to this place in a year so I thought it would be perfect to see the new singles they have and bust some product.

This LCS is known, as probably the premiere store in Texas, if not the US. They have EVERYTHING you could want. Their selection and prices rival Blowout and it truly is an amazing store. I brought a decent chunk of change and was ready to just open product all afternoon down there.

So I go in the store and make an initial run through, checking on everything they had. Looking at the singles, debating what part of my budget was going to go towards that and what part I was going to spend on wax. I opt to bust some boxes first, and then depending on what I hit move onto the singles. I'm planning on doing spending about 50/50 on wax/singles.

I peruse what I want (and I promise I have my pick of any product from current down to 1213) and decide I'll start at 14/15 Gala and work my way up in the 14/15 products. He has a case of Gala on the shelf and I ask if I can have a box. The owner gets the case down and says:


[FONT="Arial"][I] "Oh, this is my last case of Gala." [/I] [/FONT]


I think nothing of it and wait for him to bust the case and let me pick a box. He then says:


[FONT="Arial"][I]"I can't sell you a box of this, I have a guy who comes in here and has been buying this product and he won't open it unless it's a sealed case."[/I] [/FONT]


I stare blankly (were talking about Gala)....:confused::confused::confused:


[FONT="Arial"][I]"He's opened probably 30 cases in the past 3-4 months." "He pulled this sweet Kobe auto."[/I][/FONT]


Continue staring at him, I say [FONT="Arial"]"Well it's not like Kobe doesn't sign for every product"
[/FONT]

He goes [FONT="Arial"][I]"Yeah, but this one was a beauty. A guy in the store offered him $750 for it on the spot but he told the guy 'no thank you'. He was nice about it, even though the guy lowballed him"[/I][/FONT]


I say [FONT="Arial"]"I didn't know any card in Gala except the rookies /8 could even touch $500".[/FONT] Literally didn't know what else to say, and I'm not trying to cause a scene because that's just not who I am. My blood is boiling at this point. I've never been told I couldn't buy something. It would be one thing if he had the case in the back and was holding it, but it was right on the shelf completely out for anyone to grab whatever they wanted.

The whole thing threw me off and after some more of him hyping some other product and talking about all the "value" in such and such I just walked out. I didn't know what else to do. This is a store I maybe visit once a year, so this guy just let unfamiliar money walk out of his door. It's not like the guy "Who's buying 30 cases of Gala :rolleyes:" won't be back and spend his money on something else. That guy is a regular and will always spend his money there. I feel like this is business 101; always look for new avenues of revenue. I was his avenue today and he completely blew me off :doh:.

I don't do Yelp or Twitter, but I really thought about blowing him up on both. I seriously couldn't believe he refused to sell me product. Just makes me wonder what else he holds back and/or does for his "top customers".

Sorry for the rant, just was and still am completely dumbfounded at this owner. I've been to a ton of LCS around the country and have to say this was the worst experience I've ever had, and I've had some bad ones.

If the store is that popular, I don't blame them for holding out. I'm sure there was more to chose from.

It's lame

But I wouldn't be livid or lose faith in the hobby

It really doesn't surprise me if he has a usual buyer that doesn't buy from open cases especially if this was the last case

Did the case have individual box advertised on it?

Why do you have a store if you aren't selling whatever you can?

I wouldn't be anywhere near upset as you are. Opening a case to sell one box may not be what this shop does. Like you said, there were plenty of other options out there. Just move on and don't get so frustrated. You even said the only really good hits are the #/8 so you probably weren't going to pull much from a single box of Gala anyway.

Losing faith in the hobby over this seems extreme.

Once he sells you a box, he needs to figure how to sell the rest. Maybe from his experience, it is easier to get one "case" buyer than 10 "box" buyers.

And it is interesting to know that the27guy would drive to Texas for 30 case break. :)

OP seems like he hasn't been told no much in his life. You could take your $ elsewhere if you want but I wouldn't dwell on it.

[QUOTE=byronscott4ever;10720446]Why do you have a store if you aren't selling whatever you can?[/QUOTE]

Some big scale stores can move a case easier then loose boxes.

Like you said OP, it's one thing to have the case in the back. It's another to have the case on the shelf. It should have been at least labeled correctly. I would have been pissed off myself.

[QUOTE=pingbling23;10720422]If the store is that popular, I don't blame them for holding out. I'm sure there was more to chose from.[/QUOTE]

Sure there was. Immaculate, NT, Noir, Luxe, Flawless. I was going to work my way up.


[QUOTE=asujbl;10720442]It's lame

But I wouldn't be livid or lose faith in the hobby

It really doesn't surprise me if he has a usual buyer that doesn't buy from open cases especially if this was the last case

Did the case have individual box advertised on it?[/QUOTE]

It did. That's why I was going to work my way up. Gala and Luxe were the exact same price. ($169.95 I believe)

[QUOTE=realreodeal;10720448]I wouldn't be anywhere near upset as you are. Opening a case to sell one box may not be what this shop does. Like you said, there were plenty of other options out there. Just move on and don't get so frustrated. You even said the only really good hits are the #/8 so you probably weren't going to pull much from a single box of Gala anyway.

Losing faith in the hobby over this seems extreme.[/QUOTE]

He didn't know if I was going to open more, or if I was going to do one. Truthfully I was going to do one and depending on what was hit probably move to Luxe and then up the chain. Also, what I was going to pull was relative....I know everytime I open something I'm going to lose. No LCS in my city had Gala (and thank god because it sat and sat), so I was just going to open it since I hadn't yet.

[QUOTE=xavieronly1;10720451]Once he sells you a box, he needs to figure how to sell the rest. Maybe from his experience, it is easier to get one "case" buyer than 10 "box" buyers.

And it is interesting to know that the27guy would drive to Texas for 30 case break. :)[/QUOTE]

This is actually pretty funny hahaha:)

If someone told me I couldn't buy Panini product, I wouldn't be miffed in the slightest.




...but really, his store, his policy/decision.

[QUOTE=6celtics33;10720461]OP seems like he hasn't been told no much in his life. You could take your $ elsewhere if you want but I wouldn't dwell on it.[/QUOTE]

Not dwelling on it, I got bigger stuff to worry about. Just irritating. Have you ever been to the store and brought something to the register and were told you couldn't buy it?

Wow, I've owned two shops now and could never imagine doing this. There were sometimes we would hold a few boxes or a case and put it on the floor behind the counter, thinking nobody would see it if it was on hold. If somebody else did see the saved product and ask about it, at least they knew it was not on the shelf with a price tag for everyone to see, so they would understand, but this case is pretty bad.

The value of new customers to a shop is hard to put a price tag on also, so I don't know why they would try to alienate a new customer willing to buy a high end product. With my first shop in 2004 I did a weeklong radio advertising spot for $500 (and they did one score update post per day with my shop's name on it for the month), and I was thinking with the promotions I ran I might get 25 new customers. Well, I really only got three new customers, but one of them spent over $3500 in boxes in the next month, and with my markup back then probably profitted $900 or so from this one customer in that month (never saw him after that, strangely). With that said, a shop should never just think about the one time sale to someone they've never seen before, but recurring sales to every new person who walks through the door, whether you come in every week or every three months over the course of the next five years or whatnot. Bad move by them, sorry you had to drive out there for that.

[QUOTE=AbraCalabro;10720483]If someone told me I couldn't buy Panini product, I wouldn't be miffed in the slightest.




...but really, his store, his policy/decision.[/QUOTE]

Ya I know it's his decision, but it be as if you tried to order from Blowout and Blowout said "no, you're money isn't good here". If anything my money, which this store doesn't see everyday, would be better than the guy who's going in weekly to buy whatever is out that week.

And again, were talking Gala. Not exactly a product that's flying off the shelves.

[QUOTE=GeechQuest;10720497]Not dwelling on it, I got bigger stuff to worry about. Just irritating. Have you ever been to the store and brought something to the register and were told you couldn't buy it?[/QUOTE]

No but you didn't bring it to the register either, it was simply for sale as a case

If this store is really this 'big', they're not worrying about selling single boxes of this product. This one regular customer who 'only buys cases' is a flat-out lie, imo; he was trying to get you to buy the case.

I might (MIGHT) understand it if it was 1990 Skybox, but it's a current and popular product, not in a random, out of the way location, and with the amount of foot traffic through there, it's going to move. I work in retail that does a HUGE amount of sales in volume, and what he's making off of individual boxes > 1 case. He's going to make more money, imo.

One last note; if there was a sign on there that said CASE SALE ONLY, I understand. If he's selling boxes of this product, he's in the wrong. And if he f'd up by having the ''last case'' (doubt it) out for display with his BOX SALES, eat it and sell a box. That's HIS screw up.

EDIT: Double post, but I'll add that I wouldn't be as mad as the OP, and would probably move on (either buy something else or leave).

[QUOTE=6celtics33;10720507]No but you didn't bring it to the register either, it was simply for sale as a case[/QUOTE]

It had a box price on it. There are members here who know exactly what store it is, and this guy doesn't even take the boxes out of the case, he keeps them in the case and you pull out of it. He just didn't realize this was his last case of Gala.

I agree it's super lame. Don't get wrong.

I just think your "lividness" seems extreme.

[QUOTE=Cervantes;10720510]If this store is really this 'big', they're not worrying about selling single boxes of this product. This one regular customer who 'only buys cases' is a flat-out lie, imo; he was trying to get you to buy the case.

I might (MIGHT) understand it if it was 1990 Skybox, but it's a current and popular product, not in a random, out of the way location, and with the amount of foot traffic through there, it's going to move. I work in retail that does a HUGE amount of sales in volume, and what he's making off of individual boxes > 1 case. He's going to make more money, imo.

One last note; if there was a sign on there that said CASE SALE ONLY, I understand. If he's selling boxes of this product, he's in the wrong. And if he f'd up by having the ''last case'' (doubt it) out for display with his BOX SALES, eat it and sell a box. That's HIS screw up.[/QUOTE]


What sucks is I know the box was going to have your Taj /10 in it...

[QUOTE=GeechQuest;10720506]Ya I know it's his decision, but it be as if you tried to order from Blowout and Blowout said "no, you're money isn't good here". If anything my money, which this store doesn't see everyday, would be better than the guy who's going in weekly to buy whatever is out that week.

And again, were talking Gala. Not exactly a product that's flying off the shelves.[/QUOTE]

Yeah but that's just the point, if the other guy is buying by the caseload it would be in the owner's best interest to sell to him. I get the issue, but times have changed for brick and mortar places. BO doesn't care, they run a website and no customers walk in so it's different.

I'm not downsizing your predicament and you have a right to feel that way, but being on the outside looking in it's not a big deal and its in your best interest to just move on. I would have just bought another box unless I was absolutely heart-set on GALA and nothing else.

I've been given the shaft before and I just learned to move on. There are just as many, if not more ***holes involved with cards than there are cards out there.

[QUOTE=asujbl;10720547]I agree it's super lame. Don't get wrong.

I just think your "lividness" seems extreme.[/QUOTE]

Ya I see your point. Maybe "livid" is the wrong word, although I was pretty upset that I couldn't open something I wanted to open when it was clearly "for sale". Silver lining is just more money in my pocket. Just sucks when I actually want to spend money on something and told by the owner of the store I can't.

If it had a box price on it he should've sold it to you but with how you described the store, the $ you brought, and how far you drove, I would've just moved on to the next product and not worried about it.

The box price being on the case is the key point to me.

If he had already sold the case, that would also be a point.

But the owner made a mistake here. I likely wouldn't have been livid - but maybe if that was the one product that I wanted I would have been.

On an unrelated note, I've sold 3 gala rookies in the last two months - and been contacted about my others a few times. That set seems to have a couple people looking for it right now. :)

I probably would've been thrilled that I got to skip Gala and move on to something else. lol

I think i know what store you are talking about but i've never really had any issues with it. He's a pretty nice guy but i know he has a ton of regulars that shop there all the time. i am kind of surprised he didn't sell it to you though. If your ever in Houston drive to Alvin TX there is a great store there and he'll sell you anything and he usually has a ton of good product just not much basketball.

Think about it though, it's not that much different than not wanting to open up a box to "pack out" than to open the case for one box. If he knows he's got buyers that only purchase cases I understand and wouldn't care all that much. I don't really like to buy loose packs from a box and if I was a high roller I wouldn't want to crack boxes from an opened case. He may have even told the guy the last time he was in he would set a case aside and maybe he hadn't yet. Honestly I was expecting something terrible from your title and this wouldn't bother me in the least

This is such a first world problem. The guy made a business decision. Move on.

[QUOTE=codered;10720721]Think about it though, it's not that much different than not wanting to open up a box to "pack out" than to open the case for one box. If he knows he's got buyers that only purchase cases I understand and wouldn't care all that much. I don't really like to buy loose packs from a box and if I was a high roller I wouldn't want to crack boxes from an opened case. He may have even told the guy the last time he was in he would set a case aside and maybe he hadn't yet. Honestly I was expecting something terrible from your title and this wouldn't bother me in the least[/QUOTE]

Fair enough, but the owner didn't know I wasn't going to run the case. You guy's know because I told you but the owner had no clue. No idea what was in my pocket, how much I was wanting to spend and so forth...

Also, I've yet to find an LCS who wouldn't crack a box to sell the packs. I seldom purchase packs (unless it's the last pack of the box) but typically when I grab the last pack out of a box the LCS cracks open another box to sell the packs if they have a box around.

[QUOTE=JMarchand1981;10720745]This is such a first world problem. The guy made a business decision. Move on.[/QUOTE]

Agreed it's a first world problem. Again, just annoying that my money was no good. I would liken it to you trying to buy shares of *insert biotech company* and being told no you're not allowed. Not because the practice is not allowed, but just because YOU specifically aren't allowed to. If he was selling it by the case that would be 1 thing, but he wasn't.

Still agree with you though it's completely a first world problem.

[QUOTE=GeechQuest;10720812][B]Fair enough, but the owner didn't know I wasn't going to run the case. [/B]You guy's know because I told you but the owner had no clue. No idea what was in my pocket, how much I was wanting to spend and so forth...

Also, I've yet to find an LCS who wouldn't crack a box to sell the packs. I seldom purchase packs (unless it's the last pack of the box) but typically when I grab the last pack out of a box the LCS cracks open another box to sell the packs if they have a box around.



Agreed it's a first world problem. Again, just annoying that my money was no good. I would liken it to you trying to buy shares of *insert biotech company* and being told no you're not allowed. Not because the practice is not allowed, but just because YOU specifically aren't allowed to. If he was selling it by the case that would be 1 thing, but he wasn't.

Still agree with you though it's completely a first world problem.[/QUOTE]

I get why you could be disappointed. But at the same time, you're right, he doesn't know if you were going to run the case. But, he also didn't know if you did plan on it. Meanwhile, he knows of someone that 100% (at least based on what he said). So he has a 50/50 shot of you doing the entire case and bumping out the other buyer. Or he has a 100% chance of selling it to the other guy. From a business perspective, it's pretty easy to see. That said, if he had a case, you would think he would've probably called that guy, put it on hold out of the way etc. But it also sounds like he planned on having more then realized it was his only case, so maybe after you left he did pull it or something. If he left it up there, then thats a mistake because he just leaves the window open for the same issue from other buyers.

Have seen it done before...Case is the new box...box is the new pack...

OP: this is all your fault--------for asking for a box of gala in the first place.................it's a terrible product. What the heck were you thinking??:D

The shop owner was doing you a favor:)!

You don't seem to have much luck with your LCS'. If he offered you like 15% discount everything would be ok?

It wasn't personal it was a business decision. You only wanted one box of a poor hard to get rid of product from a fresh sealed case. If you were a regular customer you may have gotten it?
These shops don't make much money off wax like some people think. You come maybe twice a year? I wouldn't be upset if he choose to keep it sealed.
If I was him I would have done the same thing and Im real big on customer service but you have to make good business decision or you are not going to last long.

The shop owner did you a favor.

Twas a blessing in disguise..you just haven't seen it yet.

What the guy above me said.

And this piece of wisdom I learned from a very smart man in college....

If it does not hurt you, do not cry.

I mean, I probably would have been a little annoyed and may have taken my business to another store, but the whole 'lost faith in the hobby' is high school girl dramatic.

Post a problem on the internet, expect for it to backfire. Just saying.

Shop guy can do whatever he wants; his prerogative. But like you, I would've walked out and wouldn't go back. If he doesn't want your business, don't give it to him. Money talks.

[QUOTE=JMarchand1981;10720745]This is such a first world problem. The guy made a business decision. Move on.[/QUOTE]
My thought exactly when reading this - well put!

For the OP - not to say you overreacted - but I just looked that up in the dictionary and it had you there - along with "see also - too much estrogen"... Seriously - that sucks that you thought there was some Gala for sale - but your post clearly shows that he didn't know it was the last case. Maybe another employee sold some, maybe he miscounted his inventory or whatever - but he clearly didn't know it was the last - and once he did he did the right thing - lots of the big spenders won't buy open boxes and he sounds like he's loyal to his regulars - which is what he should be!

It sounds like you overreacted as bad as "Bill" and took off - which means we don't get to see if he would have made it up to you. I assume if you were cordial about it, realized the Gala wasn't for sale and bought the other things you were interested in - he probably would have hooked you up a bit as a thanks for understanding... but if that incident caused you to "lose faith in the hobby" - you just might not be cut out for such an intense hobby and might want to go back to crocheting or something... ;)

Lastly - Immaculate was the only Panini product I could stomach until Gala. I LOVE Gala and am glad most people hate it and want other cards with skittles, glitter, macaroni, or some other gimmic stuck on the card - to each their own. For me - Gala reminds me of 03/04 Topps Contemporary Collection - and other cool sets like that - so I can see if he has a loyal customer who has a loyal product. He made a mistake having it out... oh well... put your big boy pants back on... but it sounds like he made an honest mistake - if he's a schmuck - he won't last long - if he's not - then good for him for understanding his market... And thanks for the laugh tonight, I appreciate it!

I think the OP knows this isn't really a serious issue. Its just one of those things that in the moment it was annoying I'm sure, but they're just cards. Plus you almost always lose money on box breaks anyway. Don't waste your time or energy letting little things like this bother ya.

I want to ask if you would ever go back there again?

Honestly it would be annoying but if he wants to sell as a whole case, it's his choice and I wouldn't really be pissed if he told me that

Seems like somewhat of a communication breakdown. I am all in favor of the store owner doing what he pleases, as it is his property, but poor business practice not only having the case marked by box price, but also not communicating with you and seeing what else you were willing to buy.

If it was me in the owner's shoes, I would have asked if you were interested in anything else, and then regrettably open the case. If you were spending $1000+ (not knowing what basketball prices are), I would definitely think the owner would rethink his decision.

Ultimately, if I was driving that long to drop some change, I would simply move on to other products. Or order from Blowout from the comfort of my own home and put the gas money towards a steak dinner and a six pack.

[QUOTE=k13;10721000]Have seen it done before...Case is the new box...box is the new pack...[/QUOTE]

It reminds me how people always ask for fresh box, but they only want to buy some packs. In most cases, they will stop once they hit the box hit. The reminding becomes useless. Or the next customer will accuse the store owner for pack search.

Bros...how did we get two pages deep without this? Read, enjoy, and everything will be understood.

[url]http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/football/813865-i-feel-like-my-lcs-cheated-my-girlfriend-would-like-opinions.html[/url]

[QUOTE=pejc300;10722051]Bros...how did we get two pages deep without this? Read, enjoy, and everything will be understood.

[url]http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/football/813865-i-feel-like-my-lcs-cheated-my-girlfriend-would-like-opinions.html[/url][/QUOTE]

LOL. I can't believe that I forget the same OP.

[QUOTE=pejc300;10722051]Bros...how did we get two pages deep without this? Read, enjoy, and everything will be understood.

[url]http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/football/813865-i-feel-like-my-lcs-cheated-my-girlfriend-would-like-opinions.html[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=xavieronly1;10722070]LOL. I can't believe that I forget the same OP.[/QUOTE]
What I was alluding to with my post....

[QUOTE=hairyangryfella;10722095]What I was alluding to with my post....[/QUOTE]

You have good memory.

Is this that store that had the D-Rob signing recently in San Antonio?

If yes, that's the biggest brick 'n' mortar card store in the US after DACW. I'd be pretty peed, and I'd just buy online from elsewhere. It's a lot better than dealing with scums like the ones in this store.

And by the way, I read all of the above thread that was posted. Funniest internet posts I've ever seen. Some people on there are just scums.

[QUOTE=hairyangryfella;10722095]What I was alluding to with my post....[/QUOTE]

Haha, as soon as I saw who made this thread that's immediately what came to mind. This isn't quite as entertaining as his last thread though.

I would have taken a #@#@#@#@ right in the middle of the store if they told me that.

I would probably be pretty annoyed, but then I'd move on to something else in store, especially if they had so much good stuff.

The owner sounds like he felt he could move the entire case soon, you can't give them too much grief for that. It's how it is these days.

I was lucky enough to go to a store in SA last year, loved it, although they didn't have as many options as I thought they would.

I hate to say it but this is a regular practice in the hobby, I used to work for a hobby store and I remember seeing this all the time. That's actually why I quit working at that store. Some LCS owners feel as though only the "regulars" that purchase stuff that nobody else would want should have access to certain items. So, if you spend $5,000 every 6 months on NT/Flawless/Immaculate, they really don't care, it's all about buying a crap load of NBA Hoops, so that you get first priority at the NT/Flawless/Immaculate at their store hahaha. I remember 2012 Exquisite was hot or maybe it was 2011 where you score a Jordan/Lebron/Hall of Famer in the case, and I remember some customers were just not allowed to purchase it. Then the owner was stuck with it when it cooled off and those same people he told off were already pretty pissed so they ended up not buying. Just how it goes hahaha.

And just in case you did go back somewhere to buy Gala...

[IMG]https://media.makeameme.org/created/buys-gala-pulls.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=No1CavsFan;10722224]And just in case you did go back somewhere to buy Gala...

[IMG]https://media.makeameme.org/created/buys-gala-pulls.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

This is pretty funny and made me laugh, not as good as the other meme but still funny.

Yes it's the same store. Obviously the "lost faith in the hobby" is hyperbole. Most people on BO "lose faith" or "quit" weekly. But it was pretty disheartening to make the drive ready to spend money and then be told "no you can't buy it" when it clearly was for sale and marked. The story to go with why I couldn't buy it (guys bought 30 cases of this stuff) was just ridiculous and then listening to him hype the "high dollar cards coming out of Gala" was laugh out loud funny.

Oh well, I should have titled it "First World Problem, High School Drama Inside"

Just incase anyone is wondering, had he of offered the "15% off" I would have purchased everything I was intending to plus some :D:)!

[QUOTE=shindo03;10722210]Some LCS owners feel as though only the "regulars" that purchase stuff that nobody else would want should have access to certain items. [/QUOTE]

I'll share what happened to me yesterday. There's an LCS near a client i deal with, so i try to stop in when i have some extra time. Had an hour to kill so stopped in with the intention of blowing some money. He never has much basketball so i wasn't too hopeful. Well i was right. But there was a 3 year old box of Best of Basketball so i figured why not. Asked him to grab it, put it on the counter and went to grab some supplies.

While looking at supplies i'm listening talk to who i guess was a regular. He was complaining business was slow. He told the regular he'd get him a list of what his distributer has and would order anything from it with 10% mark up on boxes or 8% mark up on cases.

So i walk over with my supplies. He starts to ring me up and i mention what i over heard. And that i'd love to be able to purchase some boxes once a month or so - "Oh no. We don't do that." - I told him i just heard him say that. He said oh he's a regular, he buys from me all the time.

I ended up just taking the supplies. He got a grand total of $3.10 from me. It just blows my mind that these guys complain about business being bad or whatever, but, absolutely refuse to do anything to create new clientele.

The owner has sold $40k of one product to one person in the last 3-4 months. Maybe he had promised he would hold onto his last case for him or maybe he was just doing that out of courtesy for a frequent customer.

He obviously made a mistake by having his last case of Gala on display. This isn't the same as folks who are comparing shop owners who only sell their best stuff to certain customers.


I can understand why you were disappointed but if it was me I would have said, 'hey I totally understand if I had a customer that spent $40k on one product I would take care of them too' And since the shop is loaded with product I would have moved onto the next product without a seconds hesitation.

Not telling you how to feel but this wouldn't have bothered me at all.

[QUOTE=pejc300;10722051]Bros...how did we get two pages deep without this? Read, enjoy, and everything will be understood.

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Nice to see several of the douches in that thread have been banned.

[QUOTE=shindo03;10722210]I hate to say it but this is a regular practice in the hobby, I used to work for a hobby store and I remember seeing this all the time. That's actually why I quit working at that store. Some LCS owners feel as though only the "regulars" that purchase stuff that nobody else would want should have access to certain items. So, if you spend $5,000 every 6 months on NT/Flawless/Immaculate, they really don't care, it's all about buying a crap load of NBA Hoops, so that you get first priority at the NT/Flawless/Immaculate at their store hahaha. I remember 2012 Exquisite was hot or maybe it was 2011 where you score a Jordan/Lebron/Hall of Famer in the case, and I remember some customers were just not allowed to purchase it. Then the owner was stuck with it when it cooled off and those same people he told off were already pretty pissed so they ended up not buying. Just how it goes hahaha.[/QUOTE]

The LCS should give priority on NT/Flawless/Immaculate to their regulars who support them year long. Once they turn it down, then it becomes available to the next in line. Imagine if you were the guy who was always buying the lower-mid end stuff and then the owner tells you he sold the good stuff to a non-regular before he offered it to you. He'd lose that regular customer who helped move the junk you have to buy to get the good stuff.

It sounds like there was a possibility you'd open a whole case but it also sounds like you were just going to open a box, maybe a few and try and get a big hit before quitting on the case. That's like when I see people buying a pack at a time from an open box at an LCS trying to get the hits without having to pay for a whole box.

[QUOTE=GeechQuest;10720482]Sure there was. Immaculate, NT, Noir, Luxe, Flawless. I was going to work my way up.


It did. That's why I was going to work my way up. Gala and Luxe were the exact same price. ($169.95 I believe)


He didn't know if I was going to open more, or if I was going to do one. [B]Truthfully I was going to do one and depending on what was hit probably move to Luxe and then up the chain.[/B] Also, what I was going to pull was relative....I know everytime I open something I'm going to lose. No LCS in my city had Gala (and thank god because it sat and sat), so I was just going to open it since I hadn't yet.



This is actually pretty funny hahaha:)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GeechQuest;10720812][B]Fair enough, but the owner didn't know I wasn't going to run the case.[/B] You guy's know because I told you but the owner had no clue. No idea what was in my pocket, how much I was wanting to spend and so forth...

Also, I've yet to find an LCS who wouldn't crack a box to sell the packs. I seldom purchase packs (unless it's the last pack of the box) but typically when I grab the last pack out of a box the LCS cracks open another box to sell the packs if they have a box around.



Agreed it's a first world problem. Again, just annoying that my money was no good. I would liken it to you trying to buy shares of *insert biotech company* and being told no you're not allowed. Not because the practice is not allowed, but just because YOU specifically aren't allowed to. If he was selling it by the case that would be 1 thing, but he wasn't.

Still agree with you though it's completely a first world problem.[/QUOTE]

Came in for a possible scam story, left with a normal LCS practice story. Disappointing.

[QUOTE=jr24ai3;10722446]The LCS should give priority on NT/Flawless/Immaculate to their regulars who support them year long. Once they turn it down, then it becomes available to the next in line. Imagine if you were the guy who was always buying the lower-mid end stuff and then the owner tells you he sold the good stuff to a non-regular before he offered it to you. He'd lose that regular customer who helped move the junk you have to buy to get the good stuff.[/QUOTE]

I mean that system is so flawed.... So you offer the guy that spends the most money on mediocre items at at your store the cream of the crop at all times, then how are you ever going to create the opportunity for someone to exceed THAT guy? Meaning Joe Shmoe walked in and you never saw him before and he wants the Immaculate, you don't sell it to him, he gets pissed. What if Joe Shmoe was just getting back into the hobby and he was way more loaded then your regular and he would probably have bought cases and cases of Panini NBA Hoops hahaha..... I would write a huge essay on why it's flawed, but think about what you're saying, I absolutely can see where you're coming from but whatever happened to plain old first come first serve hahaha.

[QUOTE=No1CavsFan;10722224]And just in case you did go back somewhere to buy Gala...

[IMG]https://media.makeameme.org/created/buys-gala-pulls.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

I lol'd.....


Even though I'm sure I'm the only person on the boards who owns the dinwiddie gala rookie.

[QUOTE=pejc300;10722051]Bros...how did we get two pages deep without this? Read, enjoy, and everything will be understood.

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after going through the link you provided....TS has no problem his ol' lady getting ripped off and ends up buying more products from the shop that did her dirty because he couldn't resist saving few $....
but now he has a end of the universe problem because a shop owner wouldn't sell him a box of cards....
because of that his heart is torn into pieces and he has lost faith in the hobby.....not because of the shady shop owner ripping off his ol' lady but because a shop owner wouldn't sell him a box of cards....

this man sounds like a decent human being....

You could just go to my LCS - they bust every case in the back, open them until they get the case hit then put the rest on the shelve.

Bring a couple of goons and pretend to fight one another in the store.
Have them grab you and throw you into the Beckett magazine section.

[QUOTE=IronMonkey415;10725376]Bring a couple of goons and pretend to fight one another in the store.
Have them grab you and throw you into the Beckett magazine section.[/QUOTE]

Legit lol'd

[QUOTE=GeechQuest;10720565]Ya I see your point. Maybe "livid" is the wrong word, although I was pretty upset that I couldn't open something I wanted to open when it was clearly "for sale". Silver lining is just more money in my pocket. Just sucks when I actually want to spend money on something and told by the owner of the store I can't.[/QUOTE]

Don't give up. Try again tomorrow, but wear a disguise.

[QUOTE=Cervantes;10720510]If this store is really this 'big', they're not worrying about selling single boxes of this product. This one regular customer who 'only buys cases' is a flat-out lie, imo; he was trying to get you to buy the case.

I might (MIGHT) understand it if it was 1990 Skybox, but it's a current and popular product, not in a random, out of the way location, and with the amount of foot traffic through there, it's going to move. I work in retail that does a HUGE amount of sales in volume, and what he's making off of individual boxes > 1 case. He's going to make more money, imo.

One last note; if there was a sign on there that said CASE SALE ONLY, I understand. If he's selling boxes of this product, he's in the wrong. And if he f'd up by having the ''last case'' (doubt it) out for display with his BOX SALES, eat it and sell a box. That's HIS screw up.[/QUOTE]

I agree, I may be wrong but I'm not sure how much of this stuff was opened which could play into him trying to move this case as a whole. He may have even given a discount if the whole case was purchased. I wouldn't be surprised if he was just trying to sell the case.

Sorry about the whole hassle.... Sucks you had to drive so far.

I wasn't there, so im not sure if the box/case was labeled as such...although i wouldn't get so upset if it wouldn't bust a case to sell one box. Seems like quite the LCS with all those different products. I consider myself lucky if my LCS has more than 6 different basketball products. Oh, and price wise, it's about 15%-20% higher than blowout.

The good news is blowout is running a special on Gala right now too!

[QUOTE=Stackfan;10726504]The good news is blowout is running a special on Gala right now too![/QUOTE]

Either you PC Spencer Dinwiddie or you don't like memes...

[QUOTE=No1CavsFan;10726522]Either you PC Spencer Dinwiddie or you don't like memes...[/QUOTE]

:flex:

:popcorn:

There's a link around here someplace for an online store that sells Gala. I can't remember the name of that place, though. I'm pretty sure it is even on sale this weekend.

Not sure why you'd be livid. They were honest and their position makes sense. Lots of people don't want to buy boxes cases from opened cases..

Businesses need look out for their best clients.

You sound like a whinging crumb.

[QUOTE=shindo03;10724425]I mean that system is so flawed.... So you offer the guy that spends the most money on mediocre items at at your store the cream of the crop at all times, then how are you ever going to create the opportunity for someone to exceed THAT guy? Meaning Joe Shmoe walked in and you never saw him before and he wants the Immaculate, you don't sell it to him, he gets pissed. What if Joe Shmoe was just getting back into the hobby and he was way more loaded then your regular and he would probably have bought cases and cases of Panini NBA Hoops hahaha..... I would write a huge essay on why it's flawed, but think about what you're saying, I absolutely can see where you're coming from but whatever happened to plain old first come first serve hahaha.[/QUOTE]

The card companies have an allocation system for all distributors and lcs. so the guy that supports the manufacturers product lines throughout the year I e the regular buying all year long is typically the guy who contributing to the lcs being able to even carry the product. Alot of customers know that so it's kind of nice to know you have first dibs on high end stuff since you're the reason it's there in the first place. Flawed yes but I don't blame the lcs owner he's trying to make his regulars happy. It's the manufacturers stipulations.

[QUOTE=shindo03;10724425]I mean that system is so flawed.... So you offer the guy that spends the most money on mediocre items at at your store the cream of the crop at all times, then how are you ever going to create the opportunity for someone to exceed THAT guy? Meaning Joe Shmoe walked in and you never saw him before and he wants the Immaculate, you don't sell it to him, he gets pissed. What if Joe Shmoe was just getting back into the hobby and he was way more loaded then your regular and he would probably have bought cases and cases of Panini NBA Hoops hahaha..... I would write a huge essay on why it's flawed, but think about what you're saying, I absolutely can see where you're coming from but whatever happened to plain old first come first serve hahaha.[/QUOTE]

Totally understand, respect, and agree with what you are saying.

In this situation we are missing one key piece of information.

Would store owner have sold the entire case to OP if he asked to buy it?