Blowout Cards Forums

Blowout Cards Forums (https://www.blowoutforums.com/index.php)
-   BASEBALL (https://www.blowoutforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=8)
-   -   Dan Vogelbach traded to Mariners for Mike Montgomery (https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1024404)

metsandweezer 07-20-2016 04:31 PM

Dan Vogelbach traded to Mariners for Mike Montgomery
 
Source confirms: #Cubs getting Montgomery from #Mariners for Vogelbach. First reported: @Kurkjian_ESPN, @JeffPassan.

Discuss.

awz50 07-20-2016 04:33 PM

someone is gonna be pissed about there collection dipping in prices.

enbambam6986 07-20-2016 04:33 PM

Call him up!

Homerun 07-20-2016 04:37 PM

This deal makes sense for the Cubs with where they're at as a team, but I think they overpaid. They could've gotten more for Vogelbach.

bradical 07-20-2016 04:38 PM

If history serves, Vogelbach will fizzle as a Mariner then be traded elsewhere where he becomes an All-Star.

Big 07-20-2016 04:39 PM

[QUOTE=Homerun;11167158]This deal makes sense for the Cubs with where they're at as a team, but I think they overpaid. They could've gotten more for Vogelbach.[/QUOTE]

What makes you think they could have gotten more? He wasn't going to go to a NL team so that cut trade partners by half. They have been shopping him for a while with what seemed like not a lot of interest. They got exactly what they needed.

Ottomatic 07-20-2016 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=Homerun;11167158]This deal makes sense for the Cubs with where they're at as a team, but I think they overpaid. They could've gotten more for Vogelbach.[/QUOTE]

Hard to say that, we don't know what his value was to MLB FO's. 1st base/DH only prospect with questionable power.

I think it's a good get for the Ms, but I also think that's a bad place for him.

enbambam6986 07-20-2016 04:41 PM

Extremely patient power hitter, Mariner fans are going to love Vogelbach.

Homerun 07-20-2016 04:42 PM

[QUOTE=Big;11167180]What makes you think they could have gotten more? He wasn't going to go to a NL team so that cut trade partners by half. They have been shopping him for a while with what seemed like not a lot of interest. They got exactly what they needed.[/QUOTE]

I thought the Cubs would've packaged him together with another prospect or two for Miller or Chapman. I guess the Yankees weren't interested.

Wolves4Life 07-20-2016 04:43 PM

Montgomery a really good lefty under control til 2021 is probably what sold the Cubs.

Screamer 07-20-2016 04:43 PM

CUBS CHOKED!

Montgomery is a nice asset and will help but they could have gotten so much more for Vogelbach

Mariners still stink

Wolves4Life 07-20-2016 04:44 PM

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 31s31 seconds ago
In other words: #Mariners and #Cubs finalizing a trade that may ultimately include more players than Vogelbach and Montgomery.

preakness 07-20-2016 04:45 PM

Laughed whenver I read suggesting they trade him
For champman
Heck, read one person suggest for chapman and Beltran

Read Andrew Miller for him


--- I don't sound so crazy now when I predicted Soler for Quackenbush

Ottomatic 07-20-2016 04:45 PM

How do people assume the Cubs could have gotten so much more for a DH with a far from guaranteed bat?

Screamer 07-20-2016 04:49 PM

[QUOTE=Ottomatic;11167213]How do people assume the Cubs could have gotten so much more for a DH with a far from guaranteed bat?[/QUOTE]

He's hit wherever he's been, brought the power with him, doesn't strike out as much as minor league power hitters do

Screamer 07-20-2016 04:50 PM

[QUOTE=Wolves4Life;11167204]Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 31s31 seconds ago
In other words: #Mariners and #Cubs finalizing a trade that may ultimately include more players than Vogelbach and Montgomery.[/QUOTE]

THIS would make more sense

Big 07-20-2016 04:50 PM

[QUOTE=Screamer;11167227]He's hit wherever he's been, brought the power with him, doesn't strike out[/QUOTE]

I think getting a power lefty under control is a pretty good get for a player who was never going to play for the Cubs.

tiger221166 07-20-2016 04:51 PM

I love Vogelbach, but if it's a one-for-one (remains to be seen), I think it's perfectly rational for both sides. He wasn't likely to get time in Chicago absent injury, and being limited to 1B/DH hampers his trade value. Montgomery is versatile and has been dominant this year versus lefties, and he's controllable for five years.

[QUOTE=preakness;11167212]

--- I don't sound so crazy now when I predicted Soler for Quackenbush[/QUOTE]

Sorry man, that's still pretty crazy :)!

Ottomatic 07-20-2016 04:53 PM

[QUOTE=Screamer;11167227]He's hit wherever he's been, brought the power with him, doesn't strike out as much as minor league power hitters do[/QUOTE]

This is his first year really showing power over a prolonged period. Has been around a 160 iso which is mediocre for a DH.

I still like this for the Mariners, I just don't think he's that valuable. Safeco is also a terrible fit for him.

metsandweezer 07-20-2016 04:54 PM

Double A right-hander Paul Blackburn also heading from #Cubs to #Mariners.

PejaD 07-20-2016 04:54 PM

At least Vogelbach made it to the AL.

Does this mean Adam Lind's days are numbered?

Devi8or 07-20-2016 04:55 PM

[QUOTE=metsandweezer;11167246]Double A right-hander Paul Blackburn also heading from #Cubs to #Mariners.[/QUOTE]

I see a AAA Pitcher is going from SEA to CHC also, no name attached to it yet though

Screamer 07-20-2016 04:59 PM

[QUOTE=metsandweezer;11167246]Double A right-hander Paul Blackburn also heading from #Cubs to #Mariners.[/QUOTE]

I see Triple A; Blackburn is in Double A and the Cubs would be absolutely stupid to part with Blackburn and Vogelbach for anything the Mariners think they can put together

Now if it's Pierce Johnson, that makes sense

Jaypers 07-20-2016 04:59 PM

Best case, Edgar Martinez V. 2.

Kudos to Seattle. They did well even before Blackburn was announced.

enbambam6986 07-20-2016 05:01 PM

[QUOTE=Jaypers;11167276]Best case, Edgar Martinez V. 2.

Kudos to Seattle. They did well even before Blackburn was announced.[/QUOTE]

Best case...

[IMG]http://www.cubby-blue.com/.a/6a00d83451fe4669e2016300a622ff970d-800wi[/IMG]


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:55 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © 2019, Blowout Cards Inc.