First off the line contenders
 

For sale today in the panini store starting at 1000 cst, which should be in about 22 minutes. Comes with red foil parallel base and red foil rps on card auto. $144

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In the past, most boxes have had one on-card auto. Wonder if the red foil is extra or will replace the original on-card.

I'm going to assume it does.

I'm also not going to get these in fear of not being able to pull a cracked Ice or Championship ticket after the debacle of Prizm FOTL.

I may try a couple. I don't think Contenders will be as plentiful as Prizm still is now weeks after its release. 2 of my LCS are only allocated 1 case. I'm actually more worried about this product being watered down with Sophomore ticket and veteran ticket autos. Panini could be ruining one of their most desirable releases, plus the fact they are dropping this so close to the release of Optic simply makes bad business sense.

[QUOTE=dcarado;13049577]In the past, most boxes have had one on-card auto. Wonder if the red foil is extra or will replace the original on-card.[/QUOTE]Actually, last year (and maybe the year before) guaranteed two on-card autos, and possibly six total, rather than the normal five.

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I got one, the extra content is always a bonus.

Never bought any of the "First off the line", I will try my luck with a couple boxes of them for contenders, as its the only product I buy.

Just bought 3 . Thanks for the heads up!

thanks got 2

Just grabbed one . Any idea on the Red print runs?

[QUOTE=Detblkraven55;13050562]Just grabbed one . Any idea on the Red print runs?[/QUOTE]

That's what I was wondering. Given that they haven't announced a print run makes me wonder if they're going to print this to order or if they made oodles and oodles of them.

sigh another one of these FOTL releases with (surprise!) unannounced super mysterious print runs of exclusive content. Fool me once Panini

The prizm bronze FOTL sell pretty good

I don't have the money to do this and run all over town looking for Prizm retail! C'mon Panini, give me a chance to come up for air.

I bought 2 cases of Prizm FOTL, but will definitely be passing on this... Only received 16 boxes and ended up canceling the last 8 box order because of Panini's horrendous customer service.

I'll just stick with ordering my cases through Blowout!

Ordered two.

[QUOTE=chrisfaceoff;13049587]I'm also not going to get these in fear of not being able to pull a cracked Ice or Championship ticket after the debacle of Prizm FOTL.[/QUOTE]

This times 100. I was really bummed when I didn't get any low numbered prizm from FOTL. I imagine it will be the same with contenders.

For price difference is it worth getting first off lien versus regular hobby?

[QUOTE=Campbelljh3;13051701]For price difference is it worth getting first off lien versus regular hobby?[/QUOTE]

Good question I ordered my case long ago direct

Cost 110 ish

So wait...what was the Prizm debacle? What do people think the issue may be here?

Where's the pictures of the exclusive red cards?

[QUOTE=HeadstrongRSS;13052548]So wait...what was the Prizm debacle? What do people think the issue may be here?[/QUOTE]They didn’t have any lower numbered parallels in them (Camo, Gold, Gold Vinyl, Black Finite) even though they said the boxes had the same content as regular boxes, just with the bronze cards as a bonus.

Prizm basketball did. Those boxes were loaded. I couldn't even order any, the website crashed so many people trying to get through.

[QUOTE=Poochie;13052560]They didn’t have any lower numbered parallels in them (Camo, Gold, Gold Vinyl, Black Finite) even though they said the boxes had the same content as regular boxes, just with the bronze cards as a bonus.[/QUOTE]Not true. My FOTL Prizm box had the bronze auto, plus a Cracked Ice Kupp auto and Gold Vinyl Aaron Jones auto. I did see FOTL box results posted with low parallels, they were far and between, but all across Prizm those seemed like tough hits.

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[QUOTE=Zeldafanatic15;13054648]Not true. My FOTL Prizm box had the bronze auto, plus a Cracked Ice Kupp auto and Gold Vinyl Aaron Jones auto. I did see FOTL box results posted with low parallels, they were far and between, but all across Prizm those seemed like tough hits.

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For autos? Yes they were few and far between but I followed all the breaks and didn’t see any parallels numbered less than 49

If you show me a FOTL break that had a lower numbered parallel I’ll gladly eat crow, but I’m pretty confident that there wasn’t a break that had any of those parallels from the FOTL FB release.