2017 Panini Select Football Checklist ?
 

Any idea when this checklist will be released ?

Most likely Thursday or Friday. Typically the day before release is the earliest you'll see it.

I forgot Select was even coming out waiting on Optic Contenders :p

This release date bothers me. It's been pushed back then pushed to early release then pushed back again. No clue if it's out on Friday this week or out on Wednesdqy the 21st.

[QUOTE=gorillaz;13242637]This release date bothers me. It's been pushed back then pushed to early release then pushed back again. No clue if it's out on Friday this week or out on Wednesdqy the 21st.[/QUOTE]

Optic Contenders would release 2 days later on the 23rd.

Distributor said Select is releasing this Friday.

Do we get Optic Select?

[QUOTE=Siberian13;13246678]Do we get Optic Select?[/QUOTE]

Select already has a chrome finish.

[QUOTE=Jackg1980;13246759]Select already has a chrome finish.[/QUOTE]

I want an extra optic layer on top of the select layer. More optic, more money

[QUOTE=Siberian13;13246768]I want an extra optic layer on top of the select layer. More optic, more money[/QUOTE]

a double optic card. not a bad a idea. Maybe they will make Optics Optics Contenders Optic.

[QUOTE=Jackg1980;13246780]a double optic card. not a bad a idea. Maybe they will make Optics Optics Contenders Optic.[/QUOTE]

Don’t tease me

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I love these cards. Hate that they release so late though.

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The stickers look fantastic this year.

Can't believe some of the vet autos in this. Matakevich? Gabriel? Matthews? Hope we don't see these crappy guys a box.

[QUOTE=Siberian13;13247894]The stickers look fantastic this year.[/QUOTE]

*shrugs*

I prefer on-card, but not every release has that. It literally doesn't matter. Prizm appears to be THE hottest cards that arent high-end, and its a 100% sticker release. Also, topps, upper deck and others were/are mostly sticker based. If you buy or dont buy based on stickers, that's on you. Enjoy your limited choices.

[QUOTE=HeadstrongRSS;13247857]Hate that they release so late though.[/QUOTE]

I've already moved on to baseball. Have 6 boxes of Heritage and 8 boxes of Donruss Baseball on pre-order. :D

No way am I buying any more football this late in the year.

[QUOTE=HeadstrongRSS;13248702]*shrugs*

I prefer on-card, but not every release has that. It literally doesn't matter. Prizm appears to be THE hottest cards that arent high-end, and its a 100% sticker release. Also, topps, upper deck and others were/are mostly sticker based. If you buy or dont buy based on stickers, that's on you. Enjoy your limited choices.[/QUOTE]

Optic, Contenders and NT have some on card options. Might be limited but those seem to hold decent value. Check them out :)

[QUOTE=Siberian13;13248731]Optic, Contenders and NT have some on card options. Might be limited but those seem to hold decent value. Check them out :)[/QUOTE]

I have. Tired of Optic though. Contenders is saturated, really ugly this year and it costs a fortune for Playoff, Super Bowl, or cracked ICE, NT is cool...but late...and $500 for 8 cards.

Select, IMO, has the best Chrome-like overall card design. And I'm a graphic artist by trade, so aesthetics of card matter to me...probably more than the auto format.

And this hobby does not have a good design = high demand/value component. It's entirely based on rep and brand legacy. Its tough for me to buy a Trubisky Playoff Ticket for that cost when the card is so ugly of a design, simply because the masses like it. I'll grab a Trubisky Select Tie-dye Auto in a second over that.

[QUOTE=HeadstrongRSS;13248790]
Select, IMO, has the best Chrome-like overall card design. And I'm a graphic artist by trade, [B]so aesthetics of card matter to me...probably more than the auto format.[/B]
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So autos don't matter. Just buy non-autos and problem solved.

[QUOTE=Siberian13;13248799]So autos don't matter. Just buy non-autos and problem solved.[/QUOTE]

But sticker autos aren't a "problem" for everyone. It might not be the most ideal situation, but no choice if you want an auto in that set. If someone blows up, while the on card Autos certainly rise in price more, it's not like the sticker autos are worthless or don't go up as well.

Prizm Autos & Optic autos essentially go for just about the same price. Sometimes Prizm for more, even w/ sticker. So I personally am not going to be a stickler for this, I just make sure I have some on card autos

So are you saying that you like autos or don't like autos on cards? I am so confused. :)

[QUOTE=HeadstrongRSS;13248871]But sticker autos aren't a "problem" for everyone. It might not be the most ideal situation, but no choice if you want an auto in that set. If someone blows up, while the on card Autos certainly rise in price more, it's not like the sticker autos are worthless or don't go up as well.

Prizm Autos & Optic autos essentially go for just about the same price. Sometimes Prizm for more, even w/ sticker. So I personally am not going to be a stickler for this, I just make sure I have some on card autos[/QUOTE]

If you are buying the Biscuit, you should wait until after next year. Let all the hype die off and buy at lower prices.

We live in the era of overproduction. 30 years from now, what criteria will collectors use to determine which cards hold value and which don't?

I could see three factors:

1. Only certain brands hold value. Likely the usual Chrome, NT, Contenders, Prizm/Optic, Select.

2. Oncard autos. That's one of the quickest ways to cut through the thousands of overproduced cards available.

3. 9.5/10 graded cards