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justgo5 04-02-2018 12:54 PM

bgs non guaranteed
 
just chatted with them, the submission turnaround period right now is 6 months. time to hire more graders.

houston31911 04-02-2018 01:02 PM

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I'm currently at 8 months

majestik101 04-02-2018 01:07 PM

9 months for me (submitted in August)

marino13 04-02-2018 01:10 PM

Save a few bucks - wait 8 months.

Sounds about right, no?

:coffee:


Been waiting for them to screw up on the 10-day guarantee, and they been on point for the last four subs. WTF wrong with them!

Still trying to get "FULL REFUND" opportunity.

mhcubsfan 04-02-2018 01:13 PM

[QUOTE=majestik101;13390845]9 months for me (submitted in August)[/QUOTE]

I sent some cards in JULY. So I win so far lol

fenwaykid 04-02-2018 01:20 PM

We need a trustworthy new grading company to join the mix...I'm tired of this and have significantly cut back on grading because of the cost and turnaround times.

houston31911 04-02-2018 01:39 PM

[QUOTE=mhcubsfan;13390860]I sent some cards in JULY. So I win so far lol[/QUOTE]

Late July for me too. When I sent them in they were completing non guaranteed orders in 3 months.

psd2k10 04-03-2018 08:51 AM

wow true horror stories! i would just pay the double on a 10 day guarantee! totally worth it!! sending mine off today!:cool:

hockeyguyrich 04-03-2018 09:10 AM

I have to do 10 day on these baseball prospects to get them sold before there back working at walmart

Chrisyork33 04-03-2018 11:04 AM

So a question for all of the accountants. Assuming BGS is on an accrual basis, for the non-guaranteed service, do they have to wait to recognize revenue once the card is sent back to the customer? Or since the service is non-guaranteed can the recognize revenue immediately?

dasiegel 04-03-2018 11:15 AM

it's seriously embarrassing, they could have even more business if they just hired a few extra graders, unreal. people will go to psa or even sgc rather than wait almost a year for a slab w a #.

IndySportsCards 04-03-2018 11:24 AM

I still have cards I sent them back in 9/17 which have not come back.

Into the Beckett Abyss I sent them.

Bassplayah101 04-03-2018 11:30 AM

Totally unacceptable.
Ill still get my RCR back in an hour for 20 bucks a card at the local show in 2 weeks.

rainmaker 04-03-2018 11:40 AM

what is the cost for non-guaranteed?

ive said this a number of times. in the group subs on this board it is $13/card give or take and i always have them back in hand in about a month. That time includes shipping out, grading, shipped back.

point is even if its say 3 or 5 bucks (which seems really cheap) for non-guaranteed. why not just pay a bit more and be completely satisfied? waiting 6 or 8 months is nuts.

you sound like the airline passenger who buys the cheapest plane ticket and has to sit in the last row on a two layover trip then complains about the situation the entire time.

remember kids, you get what you pay for ;)

StlScott 04-03-2018 12:13 PM

[QUOTE=rainmaker;13393956]what is the cost for non-guaranteed?

ive said this a number of times. in the group subs on this board it is $13/card give or take and i always have them back in hand in about a month. That time includes shipping out, grading, shipped back.

point is even if its say 3 or 5 bucks (which seems really cheap) for non-guaranteed. why not just pay a bit more and be completely satisfied? waiting 6 or 8 months is nuts.

you sound like the airline passenger who buys the cheapest plane ticket and has to sit in the last row on a two layover trip then complains about the situation the entire time.

remember kids, you get what you pay for ;)[/QUOTE]

I agree mostly. However, if Beckett is dealing in good faith then none of this happens. I am not a lawyer, but I could see suing for damages for cards that were not turned around in a REASONABLE time. Considering all new business is being put in front of these people and it seems Beckett has no intent to grade any of these soon, THATS A PRoblem.

houston31911 04-03-2018 12:26 PM

[QUOTE=rainmaker;13393956]what is the cost for non-guaranteed?

ive said this a number of times. in the group subs on this board it is $13/card give or take and i always have them back in hand in about a month. That time includes shipping out, grading, shipped back.

point is even if its say 3 or 5 bucks (which seems really cheap) for non-guaranteed. why not just pay a bit more and be completely satisfied? waiting 6 or 8 months is nuts.

you sound like the airline passenger who buys the cheapest plane ticket and has to sit in the last row on a two layover trip then complains about the situation the entire time.

remember kids, you get what you pay for ;)[/QUOTE]

I sent in a bulk 100 order at $7/per + $1 for auto's. When they were sent in July they were estimated at 3 months.

Obviously, if I knew there was a 9 month wait time, they would have went to PSA.

oddstuff 04-03-2018 12:36 PM

[QUOTE=houston31911;13394093]I sent in a bulk 100 order at $7/per + $1 for auto's. When they were sent in July they were estimated at 3 months.

Obviously, if I knew there was a 9 month wait time, they would have went to PSA.[/QUOTE]

You should call them and ask them to give you a definite time as to when you may expect your cards to hit the grading table. If it's not in the next two months, ask them to send the cards back to you right away so you can start your PSA bulk order asap.

majestik101 04-03-2018 12:37 PM

Unfortunately, my LCS only offers non guarantee service, and will wait until they get 100+ cards before they send them in. So I was stuck.

My previous orders through the LCS for non guaranteed service never took this long (normally it was a 4 month wait).

My LCS has already said they will no longer submit cards through Beckett because of how long it's taking.

StevenTormollan 04-03-2018 12:44 PM

Pro tip: Never ever use BGS non-guaranteed service.

Why on Earth anyone would ever use this is beyond me.

6 months or more? For modern cards, many of the cards/players may not even be relevant in 6 months, or the price could decrease dramatically in that time frame.

Its ridiculous. Makes zero sense.

Either do 10 day service with BGS or send to PSA 30-45 day bulk for $6-$8 a card and get your cards back within 2 months.

Whoever is willing/wants to wait 6+ months to get their graded cards back is insane.

rkuhn3 04-03-2018 12:44 PM

What a racket grading is. Big bucks for dispensing opinions that take a half year or more to formulate? All the while, they get to hold your card ransom. No thanks.

dhendrix1303 04-03-2018 12:59 PM

They should halt all new grading submissions until they get caught up.

Unacceptable and poor business practice.

jpcz 04-03-2018 01:05 PM

There's only so many graders, and they can only do so many cards in a day. Every single 10, 5, 2 day order comes in and jumps the line in front of the non-guaranteed. As people get frustrated with wait times for the non-guaranteed level, they send in 10 day orders instead. That's how you get pushed back so many months. Always send BGS 10 day

PSA isnt that much better, but they are better. They just changed their bulk service rate/time and are now at 50business days for a 10card minimum. 65 business days on 50+

PoPCulture 04-03-2018 01:27 PM

[QUOTE=jpcz;13394214]PSA isnt that much better, but they are better. They just changed their bulk service rate/time and are now at 50business days for a 10card minimum. 65 business days on 50+[/QUOTE]

Don’t forget the part where PSA is taking 6 weeks at this time to log in or acknowledge your order in addition to adding the 20 days onto the end the service time. Looking like at least 95 business days from the time they receive a bulk order. Still better than BGS but neither are a great service right now imo.

bwalter1 04-03-2018 01:37 PM

[QUOTE=dhendrix1303;13394193]They should halt all new grading submissions until they get caught up.

Unacceptable and poor business practice.[/QUOTE]

That will not happen. You forget one aspect of Beckett Grading, they charge you at the start not at the end like PSA. If you are sending Non Guaranteed to beckett you are giving them interest free loans for 6-9 months. You are just boosting their "revenue" and they are just grading the subs that have the guaranteed price point. Maybe the higher ups are seeing all of this money and are saying no reason to change what we are doing. If they were charging the non guaranteed at the end of the process I think you would see Beckett quickly adjusting their turnaround time on them.

Bassplayah101 04-03-2018 01:42 PM

[QUOTE=rkuhn3;13394141]What a racket grading is. Big bucks for dispensing opinions that take a half year or more to formulate? All the while, they get to hold your card ransom. No thanks.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, and it wont stop until people stop sending cards to them, or go to PSA.
Nothing changes until their profits plummet.

[QUOTE=jpcz;13394214][B]There's only so many graders, and they can only do so many cards in a day.[/B] Every single 10, 5, 2 day order comes in and jumps the line in front of the non-guaranteed. As people get frustrated with wait times for the non-guaranteed level, they send in 10 day orders instead. That's how you get pushed back so many months. Always send BGS 10 day

PSA isnt that much better, but they are better. They just changed their bulk service rate/time and are now at 50business days for a 10card minimum. 65 business days on 50+[/QUOTE]

That is not our problem, its theirs.


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