ALERT: Trimmed PSA 10 2001 UD Reserve Pujols 1987/2500 Being Sold by PWCC
 

Buyer beware.

Formerly a BGS 8.5: [url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2001-upper-deck-reserve-204-albert-429073182[/url]
Pre-trimming sale: [url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2001-ud-reserve-204-albert-pujols-1929855833[/url]
PWCC Auction: [url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1961285[/url]

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[SIZE="4"][B]**NEW CARD FOUND**

2004 SP Authentic Chirography Triple Yogi Berra Johnny Bench Carlton Fisk AUTO 05/25 BGS 9- TRIMMED
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Pre: [url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/carlton-fisk-johnny-bench-yogi-berra-1907156866[/url]
Post: [url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1961347[/url]

Note disappearing dots in orange box and dot that moves to the edge in black box. Green box is for reference.

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So are we now just saying that when a BGS 8.5 turns into a PSA 10, it is 100% trimmed? There wouldn't be any chance the different grading companies or standards could impact the grade? What about if there were residue or cleaning needed on the surface?

And what are you pointing out in the image? It is so blurry there is little someone could see here.

I appreciate the work SuperDan has done in his threads, but those are clear cut. This one - not so much.

It's the like collusion delusion.

Every card now was hand trimmed by Putin lol

[QUOTE=Cubsfanp;14552201]So are we now just saying that when a BGS 8.5 turns into a PSA 10, it is 100% trimmed? There wouldn't be any chance the different grading companies or standards could impact the grade? What about if there were residue or cleaning needed on the surface?

And what are you pointing out in the image? It is so blurry there is little someone could see here.

I appreciate the work SuperDan has done in his threads, but those are clear cut. This one - not so much.[/QUOTE]

You see half his bat disappear or nah?

[QUOTE=Cubsfanp;14552201]So are we now just saying that when a BGS 8.5 turns into a PSA 10, it is 100% trimmed? There wouldn't be any chance the different grading companies or standards could impact the grade? What about if there were residue or cleaning needed on the surface?

And what are you pointing out in the image? It is so blurry there is little someone could see here.

I appreciate the work SuperDan has done in his threads, but those are clear cut. This one - not so much.[/QUOTE]


Grading is a scam

[QUOTE=3124508 on COMC;14552207]You see half his bat disappear or nah?[/QUOTE]

No, i see a really blurry, pixelated image compared to a higher resolution one, which is zoomed in so also imperfect.

I see a lack of due diligence.

And a ridonkulous rush to judgment.

It's amazing that this isn't a larger issue.

Of course, the wretched conflict of interest that is the grading market, selling market, Beckett, etc. make any real acknowledgement of the glaring flaws in the grading system (and hobby) ease to wash away.

[QUOTE=Cubsfanp;14552201]So are we now just saying that when a BGS 8.5 turns into a PSA 10, it is 100% trimmed? There wouldn't be any chance the different grading companies or standards could impact the grade? What about if there were residue or cleaning needed on the surface?

And what are you pointing out in the image? It is so blurry there is little someone could see here.

I appreciate the work SuperDan has done in his threads, but those are clear cut. This one - not so much.[/QUOTE]

Those close-ups of the bat are clear evidence so not sure what you're seeing. Thank you OP for taking your personal time to shine a light on this issue.

[QUOTE=Cubsfanp;14552213]No, i see a really blurry, pixelated image compared to a high resolution one.[/QUOTE]

Are you on a computer/laptop or on your phone?

It's pretty clear cut

[QUOTE=Wiseguy917;14552208]Grading is a scam[/QUOTE]

THIS!

[QUOTE=discostu;14552220]It's amazing that this isn't a larger issue.

Of course, the wretched conflict of interest that is the grading market, selling market, Beckett, etc. make any real acknowledgement of the glaring flaws in the grading system (and hobby) ease to wash away.[/QUOTE]

shhh:coffee:

Thank you OP. Appreciate your efforts.

All of the bat in the red box is gone.

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/gUbhC1f.jpg[/IMG]

Like the jury from My Cousin Vinny here...

[QUOTE=3124508 on COMC;14552232]All of the bat in the red box is gone.

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/gUbhC1f.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Compare those photos again, my friend. Now, pay attention to the lower black part of the furthest right. How is it missing in the after photo? Because it is zoomed in, and the pixels are off. Sorry, but there are too many holes for doubt here.

[QUOTE=fitefanSHO;14552236]Like the jury from My Cousin Vinny here...[/QUOTE]

You play the troll really well.

So well in fact, I'd recommend quitting your day job.

[QUOTE=fitefanSHO;14552236]Like the jury from My Cousin Vinny here...[/QUOTE]

This doesnt help.

Neither does endless hysteria over "trimmed" cards!

Trimmed or not trimmed, the fact that you can turn a BGS 8.5 into a PSA 10 means.......say it with me now kids.....grading is a SCAM

[QUOTE=Cubsfanp;14552246]Compare those photos again, my friend. Now, pay attention to the lower black part of the furthest right. How is it missing in the after photo? Because it is zoomed in, and the pixels are off. Sorry, but there are too many holes for doubt here.[/QUOTE]

[IMG]https://media.giphy.com/media/pPhyAv5t9V8djyRFJH/giphy.gif[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Wiseguy917;14552262]Trimmed or not trimmed, the fact that you can turn a BGS 8.5 into a PSA 10 means.......say it with me now kids.....grading is a SCAM[/QUOTE]

THIS!

[QUOTE=Cubsfanp;14552201]So are we now just saying that when a BGS 8.5 turns into a PSA 10, it is 100% trimmed? There wouldn't be any chance the different grading companies or standards could impact the grade? What about if there were residue or cleaning needed on the surface?

And what are you pointing out in the image? It is so blurry there is little someone could see here.

I appreciate the work SuperDan has done in his threads, but those are clear cut. This one - not so much.[/QUOTE]

I can’t tell if you are trolling or if you really can’t see the chunk of bat missing? Besides, either way are you happy? If BGS 8.5’s can turn into PSA 10’s why are you paying such a premium on the 10? This is a clear trim job but with this many examples being caught just think of how many non-serial numbered cards are out there that were trimmed that didn’t get caught. It’s really making me re-evaluate how I collect or if I even want to continue. I know trimming has been going on forever but it takes a lot of fun out of it when you have to be so protective against trimmed cards and you know the third party grading companies are in such a rush to slab these cards and collect their fee that they don’t even bother to measure and/or inspect the edges.

Anytime we post something which is not 100% conclusive we give ammo to the Bill Sliheets, and Deer's of this world.

If you all cant see the comparision of the bat missing is from missing pixels or blurriness from zooming in, i don't know what else to say.

[QUOTE=Cubsfanp;14552286]Anytime we post something which is not 100% conclusive we give ammo to the Bill Sliheets, and Deer's of this world.

If you all cant see the comparision of the bat missing is from missing pixels or blurriness from zooming in, i don't know what else to say.[/QUOTE]

You're the only one, so it is possible it's just you?