PWCC Altered Cards Callout Thread - 1952 Topps Mantle etc
 

Here is the raw card: [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190430/55c3f1ebc813a7fdabbac749eb8b8ebb.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190430/d717941d79fca5ebc9484719dd8ae7e0.jpg[/IMG]

Here is the initial PSA slab sold through Heritage (photos by Heritage Auctions): [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190430/af0db6374de0a3c8815b768b3f649629.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190430/1e5c6c0d344f735e21c30575fcab5142.jpg[/IMG]

Current PSA slab through PWCC (photos by pwcc):

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190430/290fe87eb68be7871c1fa6fdd93da3b7.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190430/058eae99d695d0740a09fd3b738a6ead.jpg[/IMG]

Was it trimmed left/right, up/down, or both?

Oof--this is the song that never ends...

How did they trim it and get no grade increase?

Fake? Trimmed? Different card? I can’t tell.

[QUOTE=Soxfanguy;14624938]How did they trim it and get no grade increase?[/QUOTE]

I think it was trimmed even before the initial grading

They did nice restorative work on that top right corner!

[QUOTE=LCM1223;14624944]I think it was trimmed even before the initial grading[/QUOTE]

Oh ok that makes sense

goodness that was a beautiful mantle! incredible shame about the trim. high profile card pwcc needs to take it down.

Beautiful card!

Trimmers suck at their job, could only get it to a 4.5. Good job catching this

[QUOTE=Soxfanguy;14624938]How did they trim it and get no grade increase?[/QUOTE]

trimmed from raw to initial grading. eye appeal is so nice im not totally surprised by the bump effort after first grading. but its an altered card now and worth maybe 20% of what it would have been without the trim.

[QUOTE=rainmaker;14624965]trimmed from raw to initial grading. eye appeal is so nice im not totally surprised by the bump effort after first grading. but its an altered card now and worth maybe 20% of what it would have been without the trim.[/QUOTE]
But it’s got that PWCC-HE designation. So it’s worth 97% more!

Context please.

Micky always liked getting some trim but not like this!

[QUOTE=KhalDrogo;14624973]But it’s got that PWCC-HE designation. So it’s worth 97% more![/QUOTE]

in a previous auction they gave one of my lower grade mantles the high end tag and it brought a 50% increase to the hammer over similar graded comps. for that i will forever embrace this tactic :coffee:

This was a stunning card from a family collection that I viewed about a year ago. I wasn’t convinced the edges weren’t trimmed and couldn’t agree on a price. I think the family sent it away as a consignment through Heritage. It has several distinct makes
Including a stain by the “e” of “Mickey”. I was shocked to see the transformation when I saw it initially for auction through Heritage last fall.

[QUOTE=astrotrevor;14624995]This was a stunning card from a family collection that I viewed about a year ago. I wasn’t convinced the edges weren’t trimmed and couldn’t agree on a price. I think the family sent it away as a consignment through Heritage. It has several distinct makes
Including a stain by the “e” of “Mickey”. I was shocked to see the transformation when I saw it initially for auction through Heritage last fall.[/QUOTE]
What a shame.

[QUOTE=astrotrevor;14624995]This was a stunning card from a family collection that I viewed about a year ago. I wasn’t convinced the edges weren’t trimmed and couldn’t agree on a price. I think the family sent it away as a consignment through Heritage. It has several distinct makes
Including a stain by the “e” of “Mickey”. I was shocked to see the transformation when I saw it initially for auction through Heritage last fall.[/QUOTE]

So...who trimmed it prior to grading, then?

I am somewhat slow. How do you know they are all the same card?

[QUOTE=dbpsooner;14625059]I am somewhat slow. How do you know they are all the same card?[/QUOTE]
There are markings. The most noticeable of which (to me) is the central black mark on the rear bottom edge.

You can also see a number of improvements in the quality of the rear left edge.

[QUOTE=jjeanius;14625053]So...who trimmed it prior to grading, then?[/QUOTE]



I have no idea. The edges looked rough when I saw / held the card. They looked much better when I saw completed auction through Heritage. To me, they looked even better this auction.

[QUOTE=dbpsooner;14625059]I am somewhat slow. How do you know they are all the same card?[/QUOTE]

To the left of the "E" in Mickey, on the front of the card. Consistent stain on all 3 pictures.

It's like Mick went in for the $299.99 detail service at Nissan.

[QUOTE=dbpsooner;14625059]I am somewhat slow. How do you know they are all the same card?[/QUOTE]



Thank you for asking. I wanted to ask the same question.


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