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3124508 on COMC 05-15-2019 10:56 AM
ALERT: 93 PROVEN TRIMMED Stephen Curry and James Harden RCs Sold Via PWCC
 
[SIZE="4"][B]POINTS TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS THREAD:[/B][/SIZE]

1. [B]Please share this thread wherever and with whoever you can.[/B] I have spent many hours working on this all I ask for in return is that as many people as possible see this.

2. Urge PWCC to release a list of all cards submitted by major trimmers. This is the only way to definitively know what other cards are trimmed (see below: This list is not complete.).

3. In the meantime, use PWCC's auction archive as a trimmed card database.

[SIZE="4"][B]CRITICAL NOTES REGARDING THE LIST BELOW:[/B][/SIZE]

This list is [B]NOT COMPREHENSIVE[/B] whatsoever. There are many cards that could not be located on Worthpoint. In fact, most of the cards sold by PWCC that are not included in this thread were not located, not untrimmed. Moreover, [B]Exquisite, Contenders, Topps Chrome, Topps Chrome Refractors, Bowman 48 Base, some Prestige cards, and other similar cards with solid borders were not researched[/B]. This is troubling itself, as those cards are the most likely to be trimmed in my opinion. Finally, it should go without saying that anything that is not serial numbered or autographed could not be researched.

The list is structured such that the way to detect trimming in the heading is applicable for all cards in that section. Subheadings are only applicable for the card that is listed directly below them.

Photos of the most difficult to detect cards are provided at the bottom. Please let me know (in the thread) if there are additional cards that should have before/after photos produced. I will try to fulfill any requests.

Finally, please keep all inquiries/requests in this thread if at all possible. My inbox is basically full.

[B][SIZE="4"]STEPHEN CURRY TRIMMED CARD LIST:[/SIZE][/B]

[B][SIZE="3"]CROWN ROYALE USING SOCK: [/SIZE] [/B]
1. [B]2009 Crown Royale Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 286/399 #103 BGS 10 PRISTINE[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-crown-royale-stephen-curry-rc-1796597939[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1378386[/url]
[B]ALSO USE DIAMOND ON LEFT SIDE OF BOTTOM EDGE: [/B]
2. [B]2009 Crown Royale Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 387/399 #103 BGS 9.5 GEM MINT[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-crown-royale-rookie-auto-387-1872491178[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1593111[/url]
3. [B]2009 Crown Royale Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 233/399 #103 PSA 10 GEM MINT[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-stephen-curry-panini-crown-1817336813[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1396974[/url]
[B]ALSO USE DIAMOND ON LEFT SIDE OF BOTTOM EDGE: [/B]
4. [B]2009 Crown Royale Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 087/399 #103 BGS 9.5 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-panini-crown-royale-stephen-1820862986[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1456558[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]CROWN ROYALE USING VERTICAL ORNATE PATTEN AT INTERSECTION OF BACK BOTTOM BORDER: [/SIZE] [/B]
5. [B]2009 Crown Royale Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 181/399 #103 BGS 9.5 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-crown-royale-103-stephen-1796597598[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1384782[/url]
6. [B]2009 Crown Royale Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 011/399 #103 BGS 9.5 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-stephen-curry-rookie-autograph-402517920[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1435082[/url]
7. [B]2009 Crown Royale Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 045/399 #103 BGS 9.5 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-crown-royale-stephen-curry-1874924183[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1564258[/url]
8. [B]2009 Crown Royale Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 312/399 #103 BGS 9.5 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-crown-royale-rookie-auto-312-1872413993[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1549170[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]ABSOLUTE TOP RIGHT CORNER DAMAGE: [/SIZE] [/B]
9. [B]2009 Absolute Memorabilia Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO PATCH 022/499 BGS 10 PRISTINE [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-stephen-curry-absolute-auto-jsy-505599816[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1472153[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]ABSOLUTE USING SHOE POSITION W/ RESPECT TO BOTTOM EDGE ON REVERSE: [/SIZE][/B]
10. [B]2009 Absolute Memorabilia Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO PATCH 391/499 BGS 9.5 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-absolute-stephen-curry-rc-1808413124[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1564254[/url]
11. [B]2009 Absolute Memorabilia Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO PATCH 329/499 BGS 9.5 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-absolute-stephen-curry-rookie-1729474492[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1163639[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]COURT KINGS TOP EDGE USING BLAZERS PLAYER:[/B][/SIZE]
12. [B]2009 Panini Court Kings Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 097/649 #129 BGS 10 PRISTINE [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-stephen-curry-auto-court-kings-477101048[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1275919[/url]
13. [B]2009 Panini Court Kings Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 221/649 #129 BGS 10 PRISTINE [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-2009-10-court-kings-1755948359[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1176777[/url]
14. [B]2009 Panini Court Kings Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 172/649 #129 BGS 9.5 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-2009-10-panini-court-1810566307[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1378388[/url]
[B]ALSO LEFT AND RIGHT EDGES AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS:[/B]
15. [B]2009 Panini Court Kings Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 432/649 #129 BGS 9.5 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-panini-court-kings-auto-160290540[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-court-kings-stephen-curry-rookie-1870512913[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1564274[/url]
[B]ALSO USE TOP EDGE ON BACK:[/B]
16. [B]2009 Panini Court Kings Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 245/649 #129 PSA 10 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-panini-court-kings-stephen-1843058046[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1599668[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]COURT KINGS LEFT EDGE USING WHITE-SHIRTED PERSON: [/B] [/SIZE]
17. [B]2009 Panini Court Kings Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 416/649 #129 BGS 9.5 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/09-10-court-kings-basketball-129-1843879564[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1466312[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-auto-rookie-2009-10-1870985705[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]COURT KINGS LEFT EDGE USING WHITE NOTCH: [/SIZE][/B]
18. [B]2009 Panini Court Kings Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 171/649 #129 BGS 9.5 GEM MINT[/B]
[B]PRESENT 3X PRE-TRIMMING. MISSING 2X POST TRIMMING. [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-2009-10-panini-court-1731927784[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/09-10-stephen-curry-panini-court-243307574[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-court-kings-stephen-curry-291434465[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1200337[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-steph-curry-2009-10-panini-1851768234[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]COURT KINGS USING BOTTOM EDGE:[/B][/SIZE]
19. [B]2009 Panini Court Kings Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 537/649 #129 PSA 10 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-2009-10-panini-court-1786006329[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1303586[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]STUDIO & STUDIO SKYLINES CORNER/EDGE WEAR (FRONT AND/OR BACK): [/B][/SIZE]
20. [B]2009 Studio Skylines Signatures Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 78/99 #9 BGS 10 PRISTINE [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-panini-studio-stephen-curry-1808567177[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1496796[/url]
21. [B]2009 Studio Skylines Signatures Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 79/99 #9 BGS 10 PRISTINE [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/09-10-studio-skylines-stephen-curry-1782368890[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1456560[/url]
[B]ALSO USE WHITE ON SOCK, SPALDING LETTERS, BUILDINGS ON BACK: [/B]
22. [B]2009 Studio Skylines Signatures Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 71/99 #9 BGS 10 PRISTINE [/B]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1510912[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-2010-panini-studio-stephen-curry-1755906623[/url]
[B]ALSO USE WHITE ON SOCK. ALSO HAS RIGHT EDGE DING: [/B]
23. [B]2009 Studio Skylines Signatures Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 12/99 #9 BGS 10 PRISTINE [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-studio-skylines-stephen-curry-128861401[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1319618[/url]
24. [B]2009 Panini Studio Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 179/199 #129 BGS 9.5 GEM MT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2010-panini-studio-stephen-curry-464463687[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-panini-studio-stephen-curry-1873817520[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1564285[/url]
[url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-10-Stephen-Curry-Panini-Studio-Signatures-Rookie-RC-Auto-199-BGS-9-5-10-/163358959983?nordt=true&hash=item2608f3e96f%3Ag%3AP5EAAOSwxPNb4kCE&nma=true&si=WmoC0f2IsRnC03vJshaLWLf8gco%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/url]
[url]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/P5EAAOSwxPNb4kCE/s-l1600.jpg[/url]
25. [B]2009 Panini Studio Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 060/199 #129 BGS 9.5 GEM MT[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/09-10-panini-studio-rookie-autograph-1692388025[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1384814[/url]
[B]BOTTOM EDGE AND CORNER WEAR: [/B]
26. [B]2009 Panini Studio Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 011/199 #129 PSA 10 GEM MT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-2009-10-panini-studio-1839335201[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1510911[/url]
[B]EDGE DING ON ARM, ALSO USE WARRIORS LETTERS: [/B]
27. [B]2009 Studio Bronze Proof Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 185/199 #129 PSA 10 GEM MT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-studio-129-stephen-curry-1802737680[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1384793[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]STUDIO SKYLINES USING SPALDING LETTERS: [/B] [/SIZE]
28. [B]2009 Panini Studio Skylines Proof Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 103/199 #9 PSA 10 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-09-10-studio-skylines-1807722550[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1912699[/url]
29. [B]2009 Panini Studio Skylines Proof Stephen Curry ROOKIE 054/199 #9 PSA 9 MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-2009-10-panini-studio-1818561103[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1351986[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]LIMITED EDGE DAMAGE (REF. WORTHPOINT DESCRIPTION): [/B] [/SIZE]
30. 2009 Limited Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO PATCH 018/299 BGS 10 PRISTINE
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-panini-limited-stephen-curry-462329978[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1510909[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B] PRESTIGE #207 USING RIGHT EDGE: [/B][/SIZE]
31. [B]2009 Panini Prestige Bonus Shots Black Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 04/10 BGS 10 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-prestige-bonus-shots-stephen-1761571430[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1275987[/url]
32. [B]2009 Panini Prestige Bonus Shots Orange Stephen Curry RC 143/300 #207 PSA 10 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-2009-prestige-stephen-steph-1885467112[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1931770[/url]
33. [B]2009 Panini Prestige Draft Light Blue Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 401/999 PSA 10 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-panini-prestige-draft-picks-1846801681[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-2009-10-panini-prestige-1815691611[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1857009[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]PRESTIGE USING TOP EDGE DAMAGE ON BACK: [/B] [/SIZE]
34. [B]2009 Panini Prestige Light Blue Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 072/100 PSA 10 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-prestige-draft-picks-stephen-1738673031[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1275985[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]CERTIFIED USING CORNER-AREA ON BACK BOTTOM EDGE: [/SIZE][/B]
35. [B]2009 Certified Basketball Stephen Curry ROOKIE AUTO PATCH 026/399 BGS 9.5[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-2010-stephen-curry-certified-176-1849010970[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1466309[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]CERTIFIED REAR EDGE/CORNER DAMAGE: [/B] [/SIZE]
36. [B]2009 Certified Basketball Stephen Curry ROOKIE AUTO PATCH 197/399 BGS 9.5 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-certified-freshman-fabric-1873260625[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1579211[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]R&S DRESS FOR SUCCESS MAJOR DAMAGE: [/B] [/SIZE]
37. [B]2009 R&S Dress For Success Stephen Curry ROOKIE AUTO PATCH 17/25 BGS 9.5 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-stephen-curry-panini-rookies-1782780071[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-2009-10-panini-rookies-1726431005[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1510914[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]SP GAME USED ROOKIE EXCLUSIVE EDGE/CORNER DAMAGE: [/B] [/SIZE]
38. [B]2009 SP Game Used Exclusives Stephen Curry ROOKIE AUTO 059/100 BGS 9.5 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-stephen-curry-upper-deck-1731776970[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1163671[/url]
39. [B]2009 SP Game Used Exclusives Stephen Curry ROOKIE AUTO 061/100 PSA 10 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-sp-game-used-stephen-curry-rc-1761183711[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1370118[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"] TOPPS GOLD REAR EDGE/CORNER DAMAGE:[/SIZE][/B]
40. [B]2009 Topps Gold Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 1826/2009 #321 BGS 9 MINT[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-topps-gold-321-stephen-curry-1851787991[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-topps-gold-stephen-curry-rc-1820848318[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-2009-2010-topps-gold-1847523036[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1504421[/url]
41. [B]2009 Topps Gold Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 1789/2009 #321 PSA 10 GEM MINT[/B]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1608995[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-2009-topps-gold-rc-1789-1872811567[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1319624[/url]
42. [B]2009 Topps Gold Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 0349/2009 #321 PSA 10 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-topps-stephen-curry-rookie-card-1860113825[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1472012[/url]
43. [B]2009 Topps Gold Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 1916/2009 #321 PSA 9 MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-2009-10-topps-gold-1818417166[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1352028[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]ELITE REAR EDGE/CORNER DAMAGE: [/SIZE] [/B]
44. [B]2009 Donruss Elite Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 155/499 #166 BGS 9 MINT[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-donruss-elite-steph-stephen-1892827834[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1695893[/url]
45. [B]2009 Donruss Elite Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 489/499 #166 PSA 9 MINT[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-donruss-elite-stephen-curry-rc-1817337871[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1319610[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]PRESS PASS FUSION TOP RIGHT EDGE/CORNER DAMAGE: [/B][/SIZE]
NOTE: BOTH SOLD UNTRIMMED AT SAME TIME. NOW HAVE CONSECUTIVE PSA SERIAL NUMBERS.
46. [B]2009 Press Pass Fusion Timeless Talent Green Red Stephen Curry RC AUTO 41/50 PSA 10[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-press-pass-fusion-emerald-1802635967[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1384805[/url]
47. [B]2009 Press Pass Fusion Autographs Green Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 44/50 PSA 10[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-press-pass-fusion-emerald-1802635966[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1384804[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]TOPPS CHROME REFRACTOR REAR CORNER DAMAGE (CORNER ADJACENT TO CARD NUMBER): [/B][/SIZE]
48. [B]2009 Topps Chrome Refractor Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 270/500 #101 PSA 10 GEM[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-stephen-curry-topps-chrome-1844443044[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1570624[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]CONTENDERS TANDEMS REAR CORNER/EDGE DAMAGE: [/SIZE][/B]
49. [B]2009 Playoff Contenders Tandems Mullin Stephen Curry RC AUTO 05/10 PSA 10 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-stephen-curry-chris-mullin-1806992238[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1549196[/url]
[SIZE="3"][B]
UD DRAFT DRAFT CLASS TRIPLE EDGE WEAR: [/B][/SIZE]
50. [B]2009 UD Draft Class James Harden Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 59/60 PSA 10 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/huge-stephen-curry-rc-lot-auto-1800929846[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1895031[/url]
[B][SIZE="3"]
CLASSICS USING VARIOUS MARKS W/ RESPECT TO EDGES: [/SIZE][/B]
51. [B]2009 Panini Classics Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 191/499 #166 PSA 10 GEM MT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-rc-auto-191-498-2009-10-1809137856[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1396976[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-panini-classics-curry-rookie-1889432999[/url]
52. [B]2009 Panini Classics Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO 053/499 #166 BGS 10 PRISTINE [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-panini-classics-stephen-curry-1860186962[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1510904[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]NATIONAL TREASURES COLOSSAL EDGE DAMAGE:[/SIZE][/B]
53. [B]2009 National Treasures Colossal Stephen Curry RC AUTO PATCH 47/49 PSA 10 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-2010-national-treasures-colossal-1809138078[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1510910[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B](PWCC -> PROBSTEIN) TIMELESS TREASURES APPRENTICE RIGHT EDGE USING YELLOW-GREEN ORNATE DESIGN: [/B][/SIZE]
54. [B]2009 Timeless Treasures Apprentice Stephen Curry ROOKIE PATCH 36/50 PSA 10 [/B]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1287520[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-timeless-treasures-stephen-1929167348[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]BOWMAN '48 BLUE CORNER/EDGE DAMAGE:[/SIZE][/B]
55. [B]2009 Bowman '48 Blue Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 0525/1948 #106 PSA 10 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-bowman-48-blue-106-stephen-1819699507[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1429566[/url]
56. [B]2009 Bowman '48 Blue Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 0393/1948 #106 PSA 10 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/09-10-bowman-48-steph-stephen-curry-1806326228[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1384779[/url]
57. [B]2009 Bowman '48 Blue Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 1080/1948 #106 PSA 10 GEM MINT[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-bowman-steph-curry-rookie-106-1798854327[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1451227[/url]
58. [B]2009 Bowman '48 Blue Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 0790/1948 #106 PSA 10 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-bowman-106-stephen-curry-blue-rc-1824412287[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-bowman-48-blue-106-stephen-1836404151[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1451226[/url]
59. [B]2009 Bowman '48 Blue Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 1603/1948 #106 PSA 10 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-2010-bowman-48-blue-stephen-1862252755[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1549164[/url]
60. [B]2009 Bowman '48 Blue Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 1102/1948 #106 PSA 10 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-bowman-48-stephen-curry-106-1890840581[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1608935[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]ABSOLUTE STAR GAZING CORNER DAMAGE:[/SIZE][/B]
61. [B]2009 Absolute Memorabilia Star Gazing Materials Signatures Stephen Curry RC AUTO PATCH 22/25 PSA 10 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-panini-absolute-stephen-curry-1818713072[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1496786[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]SEASON UPDATE DUALS USING TEAM LOGOS: [/SIZE][/B]
[B]USE "O" IN CLIPPERS LOGO ON BACK:[/B]
62. [B]2009 Panini Season Update Duals Griffin Stephen Curry RC AUTO 40/49 PSA 10 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-blake-griffin-rookie-1876444288[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1593123[/url]
[B]USE "I" IN KINGS ON BACK:[/B]
63. [B]2009 Panini Season Update Duals Evans Stephen Curry RC AUTO 31/49 #5 PSA 10 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-signed-2009-10-panini-1809509359[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1894985[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]CERTIFIED POTENTIAL USING BOTTOM EDGE DAMAGE AND HEXAGONAL PATTERN: [/B] [/SIZE]
64. [B]2009 Panini Certified Potential Gold Stephen Curry ROOKIE 09/25 #27 PSA 10 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-card-2009-2010-1732642346[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1351989[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]PRESTIGE #230 USING EDGE WEAR: [/SIZE][/B]
65. [B]2009 Panini Prestige Light Blue Stephen Curry ROOKIE AUTO 098/100 SGC 98/10 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-09-panini-prestige-draft-1798576918[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1686198[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]PRESTIGE DRAFT USING TOP BORDER (CURRY'S HAT OR DOT PATTERN):[/B][/SIZE]
66. [B]2009 Panini Prestige Draft Class Stephen Curry RC AUTO BGS 10 PRISTINE SER#: 0006952508 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-panini-prestige-stephen-curry-rc-1840946503[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1496794[/url]
67. [B]2009 Panini Prestige NBA Draft Class Stephen Curry ROOKIE AUTO #7 PSA 10 SER#: 26085850 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-panini-prestige-draft-1818264582[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1351982[/url]
68. [B]2009 Panini Prestige NBA Draft Class Stephen Curry ROOKIE AUTO #7 PSA 10 SER#: 24245956 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/09-10-panini-prestige-rookie-auto-440539812[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1287488[/url]
69. [B]2009 Prestige NBA Draft Class Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO #7 BGS 10 BLACK LABEL SER#: 0009284642 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/stephen-curry-2009-10-draft-rookie-1759171027[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1389989[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]PANINI NEXT DAY USING LEFT EDGE: [/SIZE][/B]
70. [B]2009 Panini Next Day Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC AUTO #SCU PSA 10 GEM MINT SER#: 25885113 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-panini-next-day-rookie-1806341922[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1370107[/url]




[B][SIZE="4"]JAMES HARDEN TRIMMED CARD LIST:[/SIZE][/B]

[B][SIZE="3"]COURT KINGS USING TOP EDGE & TOP CORNERS:[/SIZE][/B]
1. [B]2009 Court Kings James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO 432/649 #145 BGS 10 PRISTINE[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/james-harden-2009-10-panini-court-1791027465[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1429578[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1636947[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]CROWN ROYALE USING VERTICAL ORNATE PATTEN AT INTERSECTION OF BACK BOTTOM BORDER:[/B] [/SIZE]
2. [B]2009 Crown Royale James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO 376/599 #103 BGS 10 PRISTINE [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-panini-crown-royale-james-1853649319[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1585230[/url]
3. [B]2009 Crown Royale James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO 468/599 #103 BGS 10 PRISTINE [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-james-harden-panini-crown-1850274937[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1549171[/url]
4. [B]2009 Crown Royale Die-Cut James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO 261/599 #104 BGS 9.5[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-crown-royale-harden-rc-auto-1857134379[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1472305[/url]
5. [B]2009 Crown Royale Die-Cut James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO 534/599 #104 BGS 9 MT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2010-james-harden-rc-auto-panini-408062608[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1491603[/url]
6. [B]2009 Crown Royale Die-Cut James Harden ROOKIE AUTO 208/599 #104 BGS 9.5 GEM [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-crown-royale-james-harden-1850274935[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1497287[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]CROWN ROYALE USING DIAMOND-SHOE INTERSECTION: [/B][/SIZE]
7. [B]2009 Crown Royale Die-Cut James Harden ROOKIE PSA/DNA 10 AUTO 048/599 PSA 10 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/james-harden-rc-auto-1912982103[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/james-harden-2009-10-crown-royale-rc-1922501958[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1857001[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]CLASSICS USING REAR BOTTOM LEFT CORNER AREA:[/B] [/SIZE]
8. [B]2009 Panini Classics James Harden ROOKIE PSA/DNA 10 AUTO 101/499 #163 PSA 10 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-panini-classics-rc-auto-101-1902672471[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1931767[/url]
9. [B]2009 Classics Basketball James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO 011/499 #163 BGS 9.5 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/james-harden-2009-2010-classics-rc-1893028448[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1815833[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]CLASSICS USING VARIOUS MARKS W/ RESPECT TO EDGES: [/B][/SIZE]
10. [B]2009 Panini Classics James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO 269/499 #163 PSA 10 GEM MT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-classics-james-harden-rookie-1855211838[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1491612[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]ELITE USING REAR EDGE WEAR: [/SIZE][/B]
11. [B]2009 Donruss Elite James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO 194/479 #163 PSA 10 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/james-harden-2009-donruss-elite-470784372[/url]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-09-10-james-harden-donruss-1858762835[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1646270[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]TOPPS CHROME REFRACTOR USING REAR CORNER WEAR: [/SIZE][/B]
12. [B]2009 Topps Chrome Refractor James Harden ROOKIE RC 152/500 #99 PSA 10 GEM MT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/james-harden-2009-10-topps-2009-10-1755226357[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1871404[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]TOPPS GOLD USING REAR EDGE DAMAGE: [/SIZE][/B]
13. [B]2009 Topps Gold James Harden ROOKIE RC 1617/2009 #319 PSA 10 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-topps-gold-james-harden-rc-1856234916[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1549211[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1608984[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]SP GAME USED USING CORNER & EDGE DAMAGE:[/B][/SIZE]
14. [B]2009 SP Game Used James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO 4/5 #118 PSA 10 GEM MINT [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-upper-deck-nba-sp-game-used-1855847844[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1593150[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]SP GAME USED ROOKIE EXCLUSIVE USING THREADS ON LEFT EDGE & BOTTOM LEFT CORNER DAMAGE: [/B][/SIZE]
15. [B]2009 SP Game Used Exclusive James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO 025/100 PSA 10 GEM [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/james-harden-2009-10-sp-game-used-1861128240[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1466330[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1549204[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]LIMITED USING BACK RIGHT EDGE GEOMETRY: [/SIZE][/B]
16. [B]2009 Panini Limited James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO PATCH 289/299 #153 PSA 10 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/09-10-limited-james-harden-rookie-504551248[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1593131[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]ROOKIES & STARS USING BOTTOM RIGHT EDGE AREA:[/B][/SIZE]
17. [B]2009 Panini Rookies & Stars James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO PATCH 404/449 PSA 10[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-rookies-stars-james-harden-539280023[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1593127[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]UD DRAFT USING BASKETBALL PATTERN AT TOP EDGE (FRONT & BACK): [/SIZE][/B]
18. [B]2009 Upper Deck Draft Edition James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO 403/499 PSA 10 GEM [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/james-harden-09-10-upper-deck-draft-1859127667[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1491645[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]PRESTIGE USING CRUSHED TOP RIGHT CORNER: [/SIZE][/B]
NOTE: I AM UNSURE IF THIS CARD HAS BEEN TRIMMED. REGARDLESS, I BELIEVE IT HAS BEEN SOMEHOW ALTERED.
19. [B]2009 Panini Prestige Light Blue James Harden ROOKIE AUTO 83/100 #203 PSA 9 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/james-harden-09-10-prestige-203-light-1869004774[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1815834[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]PRESTIGE DRAFT USING TOP RIGHT CORNER & BACK LEFT EDGE: [/B][/SIZE]
20. [B]2009 Prestige NBA Draft Class James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO #3 BGS 9.5 GEM Ser#: 0010013475[/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/james-harden-10-prestige-draft-auto-1863677201[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1608970[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]PRESTIGE DRAFT USING TOP EDGE DOTS & HAT: [/B][/SIZE]
21. [B]2009 Prestige NBA Draft Class James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO #3 PSA 10 GEM SER#: 27959756 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-prestige-nba-draft-class-1863072138[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1593124[/url]
22. [B]2009 Panini Prestige Draft Class James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO #3 BGS 9.5 SER#: 0009718875 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-10-prestige-draft-autograph-1858578397[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1491620[/url]

[B][SIZE="3"]PRESTIGE DRAFT USING TOP RIGHT CORNER: [/SIZE][/B]
23. [B]2009 Prestige NBA Draft Class James Harden ROOKIE RC AUTO #3 PSA 10 GEM SER#: 28584919 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2009-panini-prestige-james-harden-1825384613[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1608951[/url]

[SIZE="3"][B]PRESTIGE DRAFT USING BACK LEFT EDGE: [/B][/SIZE]
24 [B]2009 Panini Prestige Draft Class James Harden ROOKIE AUTO BGS 10 PRISTINE SER#: 0009766791 [/B]
[url]https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/panini-prestige-draft-class-rc-auto-1861274861[/url]
[url]https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1496793[/url]



[B][SIZE="4"]SELECTED STEPHEN CURRY TRIMMED CARD IMAGE COMPOSITES:[/SIZE][/B]

Example for Curry and Harden Crown Royale "Orate Pattern" detection:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/4h2yUTp.jpg[/IMG]

Selected composites of Currys #12-19:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/nAgJQze.jpg[/IMG]

Curry #37 (Had to make sure everyone could appreciate this train wreck):
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/TUxB8uB.jpg[/IMG]

Curry #51 and #52:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/awQNhOJ.jpg[/IMG]

Curry #54:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/ix7qfQK.jpg[/IMG]



[B][SIZE="4"]SELECTED JAMES HARDEN TRIMMED CARD IMAGE COMPOSITES:[/SIZE][/B]

Harden #6:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/jCzdwz6.jpg[/IMG]

Harden #10:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/JJysS7f.jpg[/IMG]

Harden #16:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/I1QYtT4.jpg[/IMG]

Harden #17:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/17OiZDa.jpg[/IMG]

Harden #18:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/BV34tbZ.jpg[/IMG]

Harden #24:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/kjwWRfx.png[/IMG]

eastbayak 05-15-2019 11:04 AM
This is absolute great information. Thank you so much for sharing!!

theLUCKYshow 05-15-2019 11:06 AM
Thanks again OP. I really am astonished by the numbers.

Im looking through my collection to see if I have any of the Hardens or Currys mentioned and I will update either way.

Edit: I dont own any of the cards mentioned above but I do own a BGS 10 Pristine Court Kings #d 263 that Im questioning and digging into.

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hxcmilkshake 05-15-2019 11:06 AM
Good.Lord.

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AlabamaSlamma 05-15-2019 11:16 AM
sweet jesus mother of god.

OP, you are a machine. thank you.

charly41 05-15-2019 11:16 AM
thanks OP for the excellent work you did :)! it's shocking to see how many cards are obviousely trimmed/altered and grading companies give them high-grades, how can it be !??

[QUOTE=theLUCKYshow;14672357]Thanks again OP. I really am astonished by the numbers.

Im looking through my collection to see if I have any of the Hardens or Currys mentioned and I will update either way.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]

superdan49 05-15-2019 11:17 AM
I figured you were working on something with modern basketball, but this is astonishing. Is it one particular trimmer at work here? Or multiple?

The Accountant 05-15-2019 11:20 AM
yeah... not buying this stuff anymore lol

frankie350 05-15-2019 11:21 AM
Incredible detective work OP.

My question is, when are we going to start looking at the grading companies that are letting these cards get by them and start requesting transparency on the grading process.

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corndog 05-15-2019 11:22 AM
And to think that these results are from a narrow sample size of players.

Astonishing work OP!

Scottish Punk 05-15-2019 11:24 AM
Sweet Christmas!! 70 Currys and 24 Hardens. So everything high end is trimmed to a degree. PWCC wouldn't have any business if they actually vetted all the trimmed cards away.

90sBBallCards 05-15-2019 11:25 AM
Impressive to say the least!
Findings are sad [emoji22]

Is it Time to Chalk this up under “This is y we can’t have nice things”?


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GeechQuest 05-15-2019 11:26 AM
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the27guy 05-15-2019 11:26 AM
OP, I don't know how much time you're spending doing this, but it's certainly a labor of love. Your skills are literally legendary at this point.

That last Harden image, if I'm not mistaken looks as if the trimmer caused a little damage to the edge in the process (the white towards the bottom).

I've said it before and I'll say it again.... I don't even care what the graders think of an edge grade at this point.... I just want them to perfectly measure the cards, report that measurement electronically and let me decide what I think of the card for myself.

no10pin 05-15-2019 11:28 AM
So, just two players, and just serial numbered and/or autographed cards nets 93 trimmed copies.

Anyone still trying to diminish the scope of this is absolutely blind or delusional.

Deadshot 05-15-2019 11:29 AM
What can we do to help? Track down the current owners? Sharing the thread is easy, but what's the end game and what's the next step?

superdan49 05-15-2019 11:33 AM
[I]If[/I] drastic changes don't happen:

RIP PWCC
RIP BGS
RIP PSA

jbarnett83 05-15-2019 11:35 AM
Great work OP! However I am confused, Don’t the grading companies measure the cards?

arashY 05-15-2019 11:37 AM
Nice work. Makes me want to stop buying any cards :o

Siberian13 05-15-2019 11:40 AM
Just know that a lot of you have trimmed/altered cards in your collections. Sad :(

pejc300 05-15-2019 11:43 AM
I just sent an e-mail to PSA CEO Steve Sloan. I am certain I will not receive a response, but I cannot in good conscience not reach out to the grading companies. I agree with others - PWCC is absolutely responsible for some of this mess, but we as a community have to make our voices heard with the grading companies. Howe can we do this best? How can we get them to respond?

pejc300 05-15-2019 11:46 AM
[QUOTE=superdan49;14672480][I]If[/I] drastic changes don't happen:

RIP PWCC
RIP BGS
RIP PSA[/QUOTE]

That's just the thing, I don't think it's RIP anyone because things will just continue. How can they not? We MUST get responses from these grading companies.

I am so thankful that my most expensive cards are not expensive due to their high grades, but their rarity. At this point, high grades are taking a back seat.

mrdallas 05-15-2019 11:47 AM
WOW> Great work as always 312. Can't wait for another PWCC tenet to defend this crap. Makes you think how many "Record' sales have been achieved through this type of fraud and deceit.

HarryLime 05-15-2019 11:47 AM
I can't imagine how long it took to put all of that together. You almost certainly won't be told this enough, but, thank you.

Arthur

Scottish Punk 05-15-2019 11:48 AM
[QUOTE=the27guy;14672448]
I've said it before and I'll say it again.... I don't even care what the graders think of an edge grade at this point.... I just want them to perfectly measure the cards, report that measurement electronically and let me decide what I think of the card for myself.[/QUOTE]

Preach on!! I have said the same thing. Just let me know if the card is short, those will be assumed trimmed for the most part and value goes down. Incentive goes down as well.


[QUOTE=superdan49;14672480][I]If[/I] drastic changes don't happen:

RIP PWCC
RIP BGS
RIP PSA[/QUOTE]

Lol, nice hyperbole!! Nothing is happening to BGS and PSA in the short term or medium term. They both can't keep up as it is, (especially PSA). PWCC may take a short term dip, but they will be fine as well. The hard truth is that only a small amount of people read these threads. And a smaller amount care of enough not to buy/grade cards. The best outcome we can all hope for is an improvement in the grading process that validates the size of the card. Once a card is in a PSA holder, all sins are forgiven and the label is now more important than the card.


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