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Deadshot 07-23-2019 03:42 PM

Board man gets a tracker - Kawhi Leonard 2012-13 NT RPA /199 tracker
 
[img]https://i.ibb.co/MC6c5Tr/Wax-museum-header.jpg[/img]

Let me start with some good news...unlike Anthony Davis' card from this set, I haven't found any patches that were swapped.

Some general notes/observations about this card:
[LIST][*]Kawhi wasn't as sought after right out of the gate in 2012 compared to a player like Anthony Davis[*]You won't see specific cards pulled on camera - Kawhi's card was a redemption. Some were redeemed at the 2013 National.[*]Cards direct from Panini were typically packed in a one-touch holder with clear tap over the actual magnetic portion.[*]The most common damage on these include little "cuts" or creases on the top corners of the patch window.[/LIST]
Anyway, I hope this free tool helps some of you out. Please help me fill in any information I'm missing!

[url]https://sites.google.com/view/waxmuseumpodcast/kawhi-leonard-rpa-199-tracker[/url]

superdan49 07-23-2019 11:02 PM

Nice work compiling all of these. Over time I think these trackers will become the definitive hobby resources for RPAs.

Deadshot 07-24-2019 05:16 AM

[QUOTE=superdan49;14873901]Nice work compiling all of these. Over time I think these trackers will become the definitive hobby resources for RPAs.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, Dan! I hope they help someone down the road

AussieCardMan 07-25-2019 09:18 PM

Nice work with this list man! Just sold the #162/199 one in Aus. It's in a bgs 9 holder

minnesotachill 07-25-2019 09:35 PM

I have #196/199

It currently is residing in a Quad 9.5 case


It was the very last one Panini had in stock. They gave it to me as a replacement for a Kevin Durant HRX Gold Redemption.

Deadshot 07-25-2019 10:49 PM

Thanks guys! Do you have pics of the cards you're referring to?

celtics 07-25-2019 11:25 PM

One more note on these cards is that the cards were in hand with Panini at the National that year in Chicago.

If you busted National Treasures and pulled the Kawhi RPA redemption you could bring it directly to the Panini booth and they would hand you the Kawhi NT RPA.

Kodiak10 08-08-2019 02:20 PM

Appreciate your hard work on this. While I don't own a Kwahi or AD I've followed these as well. More so on the AD.

National Treasure have been around for 10 years now. The game has changed from trimming cards to swapping out patches now. There is obviously big money in both if you can get away with it. Unlike a classic car, museum painting, or diamond ring there is enough expertise out there to expose a fake or altered product. Typically that doesn't go over well I assume with millionaire's.

I have a simple solution that can fix this remedy at the very least for the most expensive rpa type basketball/football products! In fact its something that I'm sure someone brought up 10-15 years ago. I'm sure Upper Deck and Panini has thought about for the last 10-15 years.

Take a picture of every RPA! Lets face it, the high end boxes our out of control! Dealers are fine with this. For the most part customers like the high end products. Why not reward both with a long lasting relationship with a picture database available for the public? If they happen to hold some back, who cares!! At least we can see what the card looks like. If they re create a card, update it in the database!! I'm surprised this hasn't come more to the forefront as people get burned. I won't be a high end card unless it's been verified; and I don't mean by BGS or PSA. There has to be more evidence than that. This will eventually come to the forefront and more exposure will surface. Heck look where we've come in the last 1-2 years.

Deadshot 08-08-2019 02:41 PM

I'd love for Panini to actually create the database. I think I remember them saying they would around 2014 and obviously that never came to be.

The good thing about 2012-onward is that a lot of these big products are being broken on camera. I've seen (and documented) several nice AD RPA pulled on camera. If I'm in the market for one, those would be the ones I pursue. Kawhi NT will be tougher because those were redemptions.

Deadshot 09-11-2019 03:21 PM

I don't see any obvious manipulation with this one (032/199), but I think all potential buyers should know it's history. Maybe one more crack and resubmit and they can get a 9.5? I guess that crease in the top right patch window is regenerating somehow.

[url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-13-National-Treasures-Kawhi-Leonard-RC-Patch-AUTO-199-BGS-9-AUTO-9/283610796380?hash=item420885515c:g:k0gAAOSwjp9deFQu[/url]

[img]https://i.ibb.co/0f0936Y/032-of-199-progression.jpg[/img]

ClipsandVols 09-11-2019 03:29 PM

[QUOTE=Deadshot;15028273]I don't see any obvious manipulation with this one (032/199), but I think all potential buyers should know it's history. Maybe one more crack and resubmit and they can get a 9.5? I guess that crease in the top right patch window is regenerating somehow.

[url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-13-National-Treasures-Kawhi-Leonard-RC-Patch-AUTO-199-BGS-9-AUTO-9/283610796380?hash=item420885515c:g:k0gAAOSwjp9deFQu[/url]

[img]https://i.ibb.co/0f0936Y/032-of-199-progression.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

Black label in no time!

Deadshot 09-11-2019 04:20 PM

Yep...the pattern hints that it will only take 2 more bumps!

drobfan8 09-11-2019 04:22 PM

Hmmmm. Maybe I should have bought one of these when I was in a San Antonio card shop back in 2015 for $400.

Seems like quite the price rise.

Deadshot 09-11-2019 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=drobfan8;15028464]Hmmmm. Maybe I should have bought one of these when I was in a San Antonio card shop back in 2015 for $400.

Seems like quite the price rise.[/QUOTE]

Never look back! :cry:

crazymj 09-11-2019 06:50 PM

I have a database of probably 60 of the 99 Brandon Jennings NT RPA... I’ll show it off when people cares...

SHowley2003 09-11-2019 07:47 PM

[QUOTE=Deadshot;15028453]Yep...the pattern hints that it will only take 2 more bumps![/QUOTE]

Wax on, wax off. Seems like someone know to target cards with surface issues vs. edge/ corner issues.

drobfan8 09-11-2019 08:20 PM

[QUOTE=Deadshot;15028796]Never look back! :cry:[/QUOTE]

Ha ha. So true

kenny3011 09-12-2019 12:04 AM

That top right window definitely still looks creased, I think they just lucky on resub

Also here was a pic of 162/199 in the graded holder

[url]https://i.imgur.com/gXzLRXv.jpg[/url]

minnesotachill 09-12-2019 06:07 AM

[QUOTE=Deadshot;15028273]I don't see any obvious manipulation with this one (032/199), but I think all potential buyers should know it's history. Maybe one more crack and resubmit and they can get a 9.5? I guess that crease in the top right patch window is regenerating somehow.

[url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-13-National-Treasures-Kawhi-Leonard-RC-Patch-AUTO-199-BGS-9-AUTO-9/283610796380?hash=item420885515c:g:k0gAAOSwjp9deFQu[/url]

[img]https://i.ibb.co/0f0936Y/032-of-199-progression.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

I owned this card when it was in an 8.5 holder.

The card has a small crease in the top right of the patch window.

Deadshot 09-12-2019 10:55 AM

Yeah I mentioned that in my first post but it's nice to have a first hand account. I think I have close ups on my PC at home if anyone needs to see them.

Boldstar6 09-12-2019 03:07 PM

Im registering mine 069/199. It has that stupid crease on the upper right patch window. I got mine either from Crazymj or Vu Pham's GB as a redemption.




[img]https://live.staticflickr.com/1881/29334700627_9798d8b90f_z.jpg[/img]

Deadshot 09-12-2019 03:22 PM

[QUOTE=Boldstar6;15031408]Im registering mine 069/199. It has that stupid crease on the upper right patch window. I got mine either from Crazymj or Vu Pham's GB as a redemption.[/QUOTE]

Awesome! Do you have a pic I can add?

EDIT: Awesome to add another...not about the crease

minnesotachill 09-12-2019 05:25 PM

[url=https://flic.kr/p/2heAPZM][img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48724310547_257a58f562_b.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/2heAPZM]IMG_1787[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/101172830@N03/]whiter_shayda_trash[/url], on Flickr

cardfund 09-12-2019 07:19 PM

Thanks for this!

Deadshot 09-12-2019 08:49 PM

Ahhh 196! Thank you!


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