Rank Top 10 Panini Brands
 

What do you guys think are the most popular Panini card brands right now? Here are my top 10.

1) National Treasures
2) Flawless
3) Immaculate
4) Prizm
5) Select
6) Mosaic
7) Black
8) Optic
9) Zenith
10) Spectra

Forgot about Select, but added above. Thanks Edreedballhawk.

[QUOTE=baseballcardfan;16525046]What do you guys think are the most popular Panini card brands right now? Here are my top 10.

1) National Treasures
2) Flawless
3) Immaculate
4) Prizm
5) Mosaic
6) Black
7) Optic
8) Zenith
9) Contenders
10) Spectra[/QUOTE]

Sheesh no Select?

My top 10 most Popular

National Treasures
Flawless
Immaculate
Impeccable
Contenders
Prizm
Select
Optic
Spectra
Mosaic

[QUOTE=Edreedballhawk;16525061]My top 10 most Popular

National Treasures
Flawless
Immaculate
Impeccable
Contenders
Prizm
Select
Optic
Spectra
Mosaic[/QUOTE]

What is Impeccable? Never heard of that one before. It sounds like a brand in the group of NT, Flawless and Immaculate.

[QUOTE=baseballcardfan;16525078]What is Impeccable? Never heard of that one before. It sounds like a brand in the group of NT, Flawless and Immaculate.[/QUOTE]

It's a really nice higher end product. Which has silver and gold bar cards that seem to be popular. Also the base cards look really nice with a canvas look.

Top Panini Football products that are preferred by not so deep pockets.
1. Contenders
2. Prizm
3. Optic
4. Select
5. Mosaic

Those are the only products that a priced realistic, when there is not crazy increases in price.

[QUOTE=baseballcardfan;16525046]What do you guys think are the most popular Panini card brands right now? Here are my top 10.

1) National Treasures
2) Flawless
3) Immaculate
4) Prizm
5) Select
6) Mosaic
7) Black
8) Optic
9) Zenith
10) Spectra

Forgot about Select, but added above. Thanks Edreedballhawk.[/QUOTE]


Solid list. Here’s mine:

1. Natty-can’t beat it
2. Flawless-nicer than NT probably but doesn’t quite carry the same cache
3. Select-Such a phenomenal product
4. Optic-Best bang for the buck in the entire line, most think it’s nicer than Prizm but it not grading as well holds it a small step below it perception wise
5. Spectra-great card stock, always great auto checklist, bright, flashy and fun
6. Immaculate-Nattys little brother, the collegiate version is especially great usually
7. Impeccable-Flawless little brother, not as sought after but very very nice, but it doesn’t hold the resale value as well as I’d hope
8. Prizm-Most sought after RC, holds great value, overrated and borderline ugly on the looks, but we don’t have tops chrome so this is what we are stuck with until it comes back one day
9. Gold Standard-beautiful cards, sticker autos hold it back a bit, but great RPAs, beautiful cards that are timeless
10. Mosaic-Prizm little brother, nice looking card, aside from surface issues they grade well, heavy on retired vets can be a negative, great parallel lineup

Black is so so nice, but they are almost ungradeable and will virtually all come out with some damage. It’s a great collectors card, but it can be a tough resale due to the extremely common damage issues, at least in today’s market where everything must be PSA 10 or the youngsters act like it’s garbage. Panini could fix this to some extent by using black card stock all the way through to make the damage less obvious.

Phoenix is honorable mention, the kids love it and it’s a guilty pleasure for a lot of the 35+ crowd. I think it could be the next line to really take off. I view it almost like a little brother line to Spectra.

[QUOTE=Rivalsjp;16525482]
8. Prizm-Most sought after RC, holds great value, [B]overrated and borderline ugly on the looks[/B], but we don’t have tops chrome so this is what we are stuck with until it comes back one day
9. Gold Standard-beautiful cards, sticker autos hold it back a bit, but great RPAs, [B]beautiful cards that are timeless[/B]
[/QUOTE]

Agree with most of your post, but think you have to flip this. Prizm is just photos of the players with colored borders. Simple with a focus on the players themselves, which is why I think a lot of people like it.

Gold Standard is hideous. It looks like a design from 20-30 years ago that tries way too hard to look premium. The design and fake, tacky gold look takes away from the player photography.

How did you manage to forget about Contenders? Your entire OP is invalid

1. Contenders
2. Prizm
3. NT

Nothing else even matters

My personal favorites:[LIST=1][*]Flawless[*]National Treasures[*]Contenders[*]Prizm[*]Optic[*]Select[*]Mosaic[*]Spectra[*]One[*]Impeccable[/LIST]

Cleanest Look: Flawless
RPA: National Treasures
On Card Auto: Contenders
Non-Auto Parallels: Prizm
Cheap Single Autos: One
Cheap Single Non-Autos: Select

Absolute is a solid product

Personally here’s mine

Certified
Absolute
National Treasures
Spectra
Contenders

[QUOTE=XFL2020;16525545]Agree with most of your post, but think you have to flip this. Prizm is just photos of the players with colored borders. Simple with a focus on the players themselves, which is why I think a lot of people like it.

Gold Standard is hideous. It looks like a design from 20-30 years ago that tries way too hard to look premium. The design and fake, tacky gold look takes away from the player photography.[/QUOTE]

To each his own, that’s why Panini has so many lines I suppose, different price points, different tastes, auto focused vs parallel focused, etc. I think Gold Standard is clean, looks great and I think Prizm is hideous, but different strokes. I understand many may disagree, but just my personal opinion on Prizm.

I do agree on player photography but to me Prizm isn’t great there either, has a blurry look to me. Optic does this pretty well which is why I rank it so highly. Honestly Luminance is the best photography set and probably the closest to TOpps Stadium Club but it doesn’t really hold a lot of value. I personally like it but it’s a budget, hobby only in between type of product. Just not marketed or placed well.

[QUOTE=DUCKanay;16525652]Cleanest Look: Flawless
RPA: National Treasures
On Card Auto: Contenders
Non-Auto Parallels: Prizm
Cheap Single Autos: One
Cheap Single Non-Autos: Select[/QUOTE]

Good list, though I’m not sure that Select and cheap belong in the same sentence. No it’s not priced like Natty or Flawless, but it ain’t priced like Prizm or Optic either usually and those are considered mid end lines. If we’re talking relative to Natty or Flawless then sure, but Select is going to be $1500+ for box this year. That ain’t cheap especially compared to many other Panini products.

[QUOTE=Rivalsjp;16525920]Good list, though I’m not sure that Select and cheap belong in the same sentence. No it’s not priced like Natty or Flawless, but it ain’t priced like Prizm or Optic either usually and those are considered mid end lines. If we’re talking relative to Natty or Flawless then sure, but Select is going to be $1500+ for box this year. That ain’t cheap especially compared to many other Panini products.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Select not cheap to bust, but cheap for singles (comparably to Prizm). I can get 2-3 Field Level silvers or 6+ silver Conoruses for a single silver Prizm. Quality, grading wise, seems to be better for Select too, they're not as off centered.

[QUOTE=Rivalsjp;16525911]To each his own, that’s why Panini has so many lines I suppose, different price points, different tastes, auto focused vs parallel focused, etc. I think Gold Standard is clean, looks great and I think Prizm is hideous, but different strokes. I understand many may disagree, but just my personal opinion on Prizm.

I do agree on player photography but to me Prizm isn’t great there either, has a blurry look to me. Optic does this pretty well which is why I rank it so highly. Honestly Luminance is the best photography set and probably the closest to TOpps Stadium Club but it doesn’t really hold a lot of value. I personally like it but it’s a budget, hobby only in between type of product. Just not marketed or placed well.[/QUOTE]

Luminance does have great photography, just wish it didn't have that weird filter on it. Optic might be the best. I think it's taken my top spot.

1. NT
2. Prizm
3. Flawless
4. Optic
5. Select
6. Immaculate
7. Phoenix
8. Limited
9. Origins
10. Rookies & stars

Why is contenders missing from many of these lists???!

[QUOTE=XFL2020;16528661]Luminance does have great photography, just wish it didn't have that weird filter on it. Optic might be the best. I think it's taken my top spot.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. That line has a lot of potential and I think it’s a good early release with a mix of college uni rookies and established NFL players. With a little work this line could do really well. The inserts on this product are really cool as well. Hope they invest a little more into it and it could be really be a pretty desirable product. It’s just sort of stuck in the middle of a number of categories currently.

How about the five worst?

1. Playoff-This is Score in pro unis but completely pointless. Score being the first out, heavy base, entry level has a niche, Playoff is pointless.
2. Playbook-This, Limited and Certified all kind of run together and this one is the worst.
3. Illusions-it’s more pointless and lacking an identity than anything. Not a bad looking product, but somebody tell me what part of the market wants this or what niche it is filling.
4. Legacy-it’s a fun rip but it’s so similar to Prestige in many ways. Prestige is retail and much more familiar to the casual collector. Just seems like they could take the best parts of each product and combine them into one and make a much stronger product that’d hold value better. Instead they’d rather sell two different hobby box sets. Also they are diarrhea brown.
5. Score- it’s cheap, ugly, boring and 99.9% worthless with the exception of a few autos and low numbered cards. However, panini has done a good job of placing this as the first release and not sugar coating what it is. Put this one anywhere but first and you’re gonna have a hard time finding buyers. Unlike the others on this list this has a necessary and established Place in the hobby to the point I almost feel bad for putting it on here. At the end of the day though it has virtually no resale value, is boring and the most entry level product.

Honorable mentions:

-Certified- I know it’s controversial and some love it if only for nostalgia but there is a reason the price on these plummeted below $200 some places and it took Panini a month to sell out of it on their website. Haven’t been many products that dramatically declined in price in terms of sealed wax but this one did. It’s not a coincidence. Sadly it seems to get worse every year instead of Panini improving it and reestablishing it’s place in the market.

-unparalleled-Just confusing. Is it Phoenix little brother? XR? Are there supposed to be no parallels or eleventy billion parallels? Why is this retail? Wouldn’t the football version of Revolution be better? It doesn’t look bad in all honesty. It’s just all over the place and seems completely pointless.

-plates and patches-cool concept, but they are trying to produce what feels high end at a budget price and it shows. Feels like Absolute, Certified and Rookies and Stars had a drunken three way and spit out a franken set. It takes both the best and worst of all of those sets. It’s like the girl in high school with a smoking body and jacked up teeth.

[QUOTE=roberth404;16525609]How did you manage to forget about Contenders? Your entire OP is invalid

1. Contenders
2. Prizm
3. NT

Nothing else even matters[/QUOTE]

Optic matters. It matters a ton. This is I’m assuming an oversight.

On Contenders no one hates it for sure but it feels tired and repetitive. The autos out of Hobby are nice but otherwise it is just mountains of base that is hard to distinguish year over year.

Autos are getting less desirable as a whole in the market. Shiny parallels are taking over. Do I think that’s forever? Probably Not and I don’t personally agree, but it’s just where the hobby is. I do think the market is in a place where people would rather Contenders have the contenders Optic design, less base and half the autos, but also half the checklist and have better odds at pulling higher quality autos.

It’s niche has always been the affordable auto set, now everything has autos. Getting autos isn’t that special anymore. I know I know, but they’re on card, right? Well there are quite a few choices for acquiring those as well compared to ten years ago. Additionally there is a large part of the market that thinks any sticker auto isn’t a real auto. There’s a smaller, albeit not that much smaller segment of the market that really could careless whether an auto is sticker or on card. They may say they care but they don’t care enough to pay much of a premium for on card. The ones that care pay the premium, the other half of the market are happy with their sticker auto. An auto is an auto to many people. I’m not saying I feel that way but I’m telling you why you aren’t seeing contenders on these lists and why people have a meh attitude towards it.

Contenders Optic is fresh and looks much better. Kill contenders optic and make that the contenders design and it’d be in everyone’s top five. Contenders Optic has hurt regular contenders. If Panini had just updated the design to this instead of creating an entirely new product to sell more hobby boxes to the breakers, contenders would be in everyone’s top five.

I just don’t think most people now view Contenders as all that exciting. People will be camping out for Optic this year and if you asked 10 people which product they’d rather have between Optic and Contenders, 8 would say Optic, which is why it was high on almost everyone’s list and contenders was not.

[QUOTE=DUCKanay;16528640]Yeah, Select not cheap to bust, but cheap for singles (comparably to Prizm). I can get 2-3 Field Level silvers or 6+ silver Conoruses for a single silver Prizm. Quality, grading wise, seems to be better for Select too, they're not as off centered.[/QUOTE]

Agreed there. Select is fantastic, no reason it should lag behind Prizm and frankly it’s cheaper than Optic in most cases as singles. Select is 100% the better long term play. There are far less of those printed and they are a much better card. Good chance in 10 years that Select far outprices Prizm but most people don’t have a long term view in this hobby anymore.

[QUOTE=Rivalsjp;16529347]How about the five worst?

1. Playoff-This is Score in pro unis but completely pointless. Score being the first out, heavy base, entry level has a niche, Playoff is pointless.
2. Playbook-This, Limited and Certified all kind of run together and this one is the worst.
3. Illusions-it’s more pointless and lacking an identity than anything. Not a bad looking product, but somebody tell me what part of the market wants this or what niche it is filling.
4. Legacy-it’s a fun rip but it’s so similar to Prestige in many ways. Prestige is retail and much more familiar to the casual collector. Just seems like they could take the best parts of each product and combine them into one and make a much stronger product that’d hold value better. Instead they’d rather sell two different hobby box sets. Also they are diarrhea brown.
5. Score- it’s cheap, ugly, boring and 99.9% worthless with the exception of a few autos and low numbered cards. However, panini has done a good job of placing this as the first release and not sugar coating what it is. Put this one anywhere but first and you’re gonna have a hard time finding buyers. Unlike the others on this list this has a necessary and established Place in the hobby to the point I almost feel bad for putting it on here. At the end of the day though it has virtually no resale value, is boring and the most entry level product.

Honorable mentions:

-Certified- I know it’s controversial and some love it if only for nostalgia but there is a reason the price on these plummeted below $200 some places and it took Panini a month to sell out of it on their website. Haven’t been many products that dramatically declined in price in terms of sealed wax but this one did. It’s not a coincidence. Sadly it seems to get worse every year instead of Panini improving it and reestablishing it’s place in the market.

-unparalleled-Just confusing. Is it Phoenix little brother? XR? Are there supposed to be no parallels or eleventy billion parallels? Why is this retail? Wouldn’t the football version of Revolution be better? It doesn’t look bad in all honesty. It’s just all over the place and seems completely pointless.

-plates and patches-cool concept, but they are trying to produce what feels high end at a budget price and it shows. Feels like Absolute, Certified and Rookies and Stars had a drunken three way and spit out a franken set. It takes both the best and worst of all of those sets. It’s like the girl in high school with a smoking body and jacked up teeth.[/QUOTE]

This is much better. Except it could be 35 worst. But props for getting the ball rolling.

Prizm - Most sought after cards. Retail and hobby both have value.
Optic - Same as Prizm. Highly sought after. Retail and hobby have value. On card autos.
Contenders - The Rookie Auto to have.
National Treasures - No retail. Getting insanely expensive but still have the RPA /99. It’s really the only redeemable thing left about a $2500 box with sticker autos.
Mosaic - Retail and Hobby. Basketball really propelled it to the forefront. Reasonable pricing, chrome and variations.
Select - Will never be in the same tier as Prizm and Optic.
Flawless - Great cards but becoming a niche product. Nothing unique about Flawless.
Contenders Optic - Will be second fiddle to both Contenders and Optic but still sought after.
Phoenix - The lower end of chrome cards. Nice cards but nothing outstanding.
Who cares.

NT
Contenders
Prizm
Contenders Optic
Flawless
Impeccable
Immaculate