Marvel Cards are going crazy.
 

Marvel MU 90 boxes are over $1600 now PSA 10s are selling for 1500-1700 wtf is happening.


[url]https://youtu.be/zXH1FSDo6CA[/url]

Same as in sportscards. New money wants PSA 10's. If it's shiny, even better.

I think it was Gary Vee who was pumping Marvel cards as the next big thing. Cards are hot all over, sports, Pokemom, even Star Wars with the prices of new releases. I think everyone is getting into different things and hoping it's the next hot thing, explains Fortnite cards too. I NEVER thought they'd be this big, but go look at the Fortnite thread, apparently Steve Aoki traded $20k+ and a sealed booster box of the first Pokemon TCG set for a PSA 10 Black Knight crystal shard. Big celebrities/influencers really make a change on the market.

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Time to get my marvel cards out i guess

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[QUOTE=NEOSportscards;16947380]Marvel MU 90 boxes are over $1600 now PSA 10s are selling for 1500-1700 wtf is happening.


[url]https://youtu.be/zXH1FSDo6CA[/url][/QUOTE]

This is not even remotely surprising and I won't be shocked until they pass 5k per box. This product is insanely nostalgic and was largely opened by kids who did not take care of it or threw it away by now. This was not really opened by middle aged enthusiasts who took good care of it. The pop reports are crazy crazy low. Further, Marvel had probably done a 40x in popularity since this set came out. As hard as that is to believe, please take a minute to think about it. If you have 30 collector ls who want gem versions of these cards, you already don't have enough supply. If you have 100 or 1000, look out. Just my two cents. Always love hearing from those who disagree

Wonder what they will think when they realize there's vintage 1966 Marvel cards? "Rookies" ;)

[QUOTE=SupermanBrandon;16947630]Wonder what they will think when they realize there's vintage 1966 Marvel cards? "Rookies" ;)[/QUOTE]

I don't know if its rookies as much as this was a huge set from their childhood and the gem mint versions add more scarcity and collectability.

There are millions of these cards mint in boxes buried in closets, comic books collections, nonsports collections, and even 90s baseball card collections. I remember when I was a kid these were in every baseball card shop in America, at a time when there were tens of thousands of card shops. At one point, there were 10 card shops in my tiny city alone, I think, not to mention the dozens of "dealers" at ever flea market.

Not a lot of people have bothered to submit them for grading, but if prices continue to be crazy, it wouldn't take long for thousands of PSA 10s to show up on the market. Even the first 1990 Marvel set wasn't obscure. It was marketed hard to every comic book and card shop out there, and they all ordered a ton.

I find full sets in binders and boxes fairly often at local card auctions. Some of the later Marvel sets and Marvel Masterpieces sets actually have much lower print runs as people started losing interest and pack prices started going up over time

1990s nostalgia is a thing, but people need to remember that these are by no means permanent price bumps. These things happen in a cycle. People reach an age where they are financially stable and start buying up collectibles from their youth. This goes on for a couple decades. Then, almost all at once, this same group of people start retiring, down-sizing, and selling off their collections. Prices shoot down dramatically, as newer generations don't want this stuff, they want the stuff from their own youth, which starts shooting up in value.

My parents are experiencing this right now. They collected things from their youth in the 1950s-60s in the 80s and nineties. When they went to sell off their collection in recent years, they discovered that many items were only worth a fraction of their 80s and nineties values.

This original "flagship" set sold through pretty well, obviously, as it was followed by sets in 91, 92, 93, and 94. It may not be true of the others with their likely steadily increasing print runs year-by-year, but I would say the vast, vast majority of the 1990 boxes were opened back then.

I bought a sealed box of the first Joe Jusko Marvel Masterpieces set at a card show for $25 maybe 5 years ago. How times have changed! I wish I had kept it sealed.

The printing presses had to be running overtime on these early Marvel sets since anything and everything were getting card sets at that time. I wouldn't be surprised if there were still sealed cases lurking out there. This seems like the equivalent of over produced "junk wax" from late 80s early 90s baseball suddenly going through the roof.

Some body is going to make a LOT of money off of this upswing.

[QUOTE=Rictor;16947911]There are millions of these cards mint in boxes buried in closets, comic books collections, nonsports collections, and even 90s baseball card collections. I remember when I was a kid these were in every baseball card shop in America, at a time when there were tens of thousands of card shops. At one point, there were 10 card shops in my tiny city alone, I think, not to mention the dozens of "dealers" at ever flea market.

Not a lot of people have bothered to submit them for grading, but if prices continue to be crazy, it wouldn't take long for thousands of PSA 10s to show up on the market. Even the first 1990 Marvel set wasn't obscure. It was marketed hard to every comic book and card shop out there, and they all ordered a ton.

I find full sets in binders and boxes fairly often at local card auctions. Some of the later Marvel sets and Marvel Masterpieces sets actually have much lower print runs as people started losing interest and pack prices started going up over time

1990s nostalgia is a thing, but people need to remember that these are by no means permanent price bumps. These things happen in a cycle. People reach an age where they are financially stable and start buying up collectibles from their youth. This goes on for a couple decades. Then, almost all at once, this same group of people start retiring, down-sizing, and selling off their collections. Prices shoot down dramatically, as newer generations don't want this stuff, they want the stuff from their own youth, which starts shooting up in value.

My parents are experiencing this right now. They collected things from their youth in the 1950s-60s in the 80s and nineties. When they went to sell off their collection in recent years, they discovered that many items were only worth a fraction of their 80s and nineties values.[/QUOTE]


I would not count on kid's cards from 30 years ago to be mint. I think under examination, you will be disappointed.

Marvel Cards are going crazy.
 

[QUOTE=Darth Smittyous;16948033]I bought a sealed box of the first Joe Jusko Marvel Masterpieces set at a card show for $25 maybe 5 years ago. How times have changed! I wish I had kept it sealed.

The printing presses had to be running overtime on these early Marvel sets since anything and everything were getting card sets at that time. I wouldn't be surprised if there were still sealed cases lurking out there. This seems like the equivalent of over produced "junk wax" from late 80s early 90s baseball suddenly going through the roof.

Some body is going to make a LOT of money off of this upswing.[/QUOTE]

1992 and 1993 Marvel Masterpieces boxes were at least numbered out of 350,000. Imagine something like 1990 or 1991 Topps boxes being numbered out of 350,000, not a chance. As far as Im aware, the production numbers of those junk wax sets arent known, but I wouldnt be surprised if 1990 Topps, even conservatively estimated, surpassed 1992 Marvel Masterpieces by at least a factor of 10. Even the 1994 Marvel Masterpieces and all the Marvel Universe boxes which were unnumbered, I cant see reaching anything near the baseball junk wax, although there is no question at all a lot of these boxes were made. A lot of these early marvel boxes were opened I imagine due to popularity.

The one thing you dont see on the market much at all (and this is going back years) is unopened cases of some of these 90s Marvel. The sporadic 1992,1993 Marvel Universe and Marvel Masterpieces cases come up, but you rarely if ever see cases of like 1990 Marvel Universe, 1994 Marvel Masterpieces, 1994 and 1995 Ultra X-men, 1995 Metal, 1994 and 1995 Flair etc. Whereas at anytime if one searched for 1987-1991 Topps baseball cases I feel like they'd find some for sale.

With Rictor on this one.

I vote this isnt going to last. Most comic readers from the 90's have boxes of this stuff. PSA 10 flood will bring the prices back down. Few people that thought "hmm let me send this .10 card in and get a PSA 10 and sell it for 100.00" started it.

I have always done well with Marvel cards. That market has always been strong IMHO

[QUOTE=Biohazarddfl;16947628]This product is insanely nostalgic and was largely opened by kids who did not take care of it or threw it away by now. This was not really opened by middle aged enthusiasts who took good care of it.[/QUOTE]

I couldn't disagree more. Back when these came out they were everywhere. My dad and his siblings/friends opened and traded them more than I did, and they all kept them in binders. This was during the era where trading cards exploded and were printed by the billions. EVERYBODY was opening as an investment and storing away, that's why you see so many people on places like FB Marketplace trying to sell 1990 Topps baseball sets for $100. They think because it's 30 years old it's super rare and valuable.

I'm with Rictor's assessment. It won't be long before more high grade copies start surfacing, possibly so many so quickly to the point where they will bottom out fast.

Just look at the Non-Sports forum here as of late. There are so many people that have never posted in here jumping on everything. Everybody is catching wind of the $$$$$$$$$ to be made.

[QUOTE=dd316;16948594]I couldn't disagree more. Back when these came out they were everywhere. My dad and his siblings/friends opened and traded them more than I did, and they all kept them in binders. This was during the era where trading cards exploded and were printed by the billions. EVERYBODY was opening as an investment and storing away, that's why you see so many people on places like FB Marketplace trying to sell 1990 Topps baseball sets for $100. They think because it's 30 years old it's super rare and valuable.

I'm with Rictor's assessment. It won't be long before more high grade copies start surfacing, possibly so many so quickly to the point where they will bottom out fast.

Just look at the Non-Sports forum here as of late. There are so many people that have never posted in here jumping on everything. Everybody is catching wind of the $$$$$$$$$ to be made.[/QUOTE]

This.

It will be interesting to see how many gems enter the market. The ink and centering is rough on these early 90's Impel sets - doesn't matter how well they were preserved.

I kept my collection in immaculate condition over decades of time, and now that my grading eye is tuned up, I can now see that less than 1% of it is gradable.

[QUOTE=dd316;16948594]I couldn't disagree more. Back when these came out they were everywhere. My dad and his siblings/friends opened and traded them more than I did, and they all kept them in binders. This was during the era where trading cards exploded and were printed by the billions. EVERYBODY was opening as an investment and storing away, that's why you see so many people on places like FB Marketplace trying to sell 1990 Topps baseball sets for $100. They think because it's 30 years old it's super rare and valuable.

I'm with Rictor's assessment. It won't be long before more high grade copies start surfacing, possibly so many so quickly to the point where they will bottom out fast.

Just look at the Non-Sports forum here as of late. There are so many people that have never posted in here jumping on everything. Everybody is catching wind of the $$$$$$$$$ to be made.[/QUOTE]

Do you personally have any? I would love to hear what you have, what you are sending, and what it grades

[QUOTE=Mahomie;16948751]It will be interesting to see how many gems enter the market. The ink and centering is rough on these early 90's Impel sets - doesn't matter how well they were preserved.

I kept my collection in immaculate condition over decades of time, and now that my grading eye is tuned up, I can now see that less than 1% of it is gradable.[/QUOTE]

Exactly! You aren't alone. And this is why there is so much prospecting. Also a brilliant point made earlier about how you don't see cases popping up, even at these prices. If you had a case and could get $2k a box, you'd probably be listing it.

[QUOTE=Biohazarddfl;16948776]Do you personally have any? I would love to hear what you have, what you are sending, and what it grades[/QUOTE]
I have my sets I collected. I'm not sending in anything for grading because I don't deal with graded cards.

[QUOTE=Biohazarddfl;16948784]Exactly! You aren't alone. And this is why there is so much prospecting. Also a brilliant point made earlier about how you don't see cases popping up, even at these prices. If you had a case and could get $2k a box, you'd probably be listing it.[/QUOTE]

I agree, Boxes may be laying around, and sealed will always be best.

I went through about 4 1990 MU sets that were in binders, and a 5000 count box of these cards. These are tough cards to grade, Need PSA 10. If PSA 9 prices were solid I would send in more. I have maybe 70 cards set aside for sending in. Granted I only want to grade the main characters ~15 of them. So I was not looking to grade a mint psa 10, Dr. Octopus.

I am also going to go through my other marvel masterpiece sets, universe etc to see if any main characters are worth grading.

It is sad some of the cards are easy to browning, especially if sitting in 5,000 ct boxes.

I think the Hype is good for this or any Marvel cards considering how much was printed., but the prices should settle and flatten. Cards are a great blast to the past, and PSA 10 are always PSA 10s.

My original sets are also in binders.
I'll scan the best 9 cards from the set, so we can take a look at a random batch.
I never looked at cards too closely when making sets.

I already made my money back many, many times over on the Impel/Skybox/Fleer era of Marvel cards that lasted from 1990-1998 as I was fortunate to be there to get it all, at retail or less, and got A LOT of it.
This 1990 set has actually been a $50ish set for some time now.

So, basically, this uptick, should I decide to sell any of what I still have, is gravy, rich, thick gravy. Whether the value holds or not, I'm glad to see this set getting big love.

I remember tearing those plastic packs open on release day. A lot of great stuff has followed, but 30 years on, 1990 Marvel Universe is still my favorite Marvel set.

Bought a bunch of bindered Marvel Impel Sets 1990-1993 with Holos for maybe $140ish just a few weeks/a month ago.....

Just looked up prices, i will make hundreds selling the holos/promos alone lol

Crazy market we are in right now ladies & gents

To think i only bought the lot for the Masterpieces and 1992 Sets :D

[QUOTE=NEOSportscards;16947380]Marvel MU 90 boxes are over $1600 now PSA 10s are selling for 1500-1700 wtf is happening.


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#@#@#@#@ son its $2500 per box now
its going to the moon with GME

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Thanks for the post. I loved opening these all those years ago. Took some digging but I found my complete set. Only have one of the holograms... I might get dinged slightly for centering.


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