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Has anyone tried this new grading company that doesnt seem to be as subjective as all the rest and uses what seems like a computer generated scanning program.
Cant find any sales of their graded cards.

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There’s been a few sales on eBay that went higher than I expected. It’ll be a while before they’ll be accepted like BGS/SGC, but so far they’re delivering on lead times by not accepting all submissions, they have a set amount they’ll accept each week to stay on time.

[QUOTE=kabrune2;16977328]There’s been a few sales on eBay that went higher than I expected. It’ll be a while before they’ll be accepted like BGS/SGC, but so far they’re delivering on lead times by not accepting all submissions, they have a set amount they’ll accept each week to stay on time.[/QUOTE]

How much are they paying you to pump their product?

The more REPUTABLE TPGs the better.

I have not been Impressed with their customer service. It took over 4 days to answer an email when they claim to have better service than the competitors and then they couldn’t answer my questions. Seemed very robotic. I should also mention that I tried to call them several times and no one ever answered and didn’t have a voicemail? Very odd...

My question is the pricing, if they are using technology to cut out some of the graders then why would it cost more? It seems like a good idea if you could pay 5-10 bucks for initial scan to see if a card is worth grading and then pay the higher amount to send it in, kind of like the quick scan autograph opinion.. if it was 10-15 bucks I would try it out

Why not?
 

[QUOTE=ArmyDC;16979091]My question is the pricing, if they are using technology to cut out some of the graders then why would it cost more? It seems like a good idea if you could pay 5-10 bucks for initial scan to see if a card is worth grading and then pay the higher amount to send it in, kind of like the quick scan autograph opinion.. if it was 10-15 bucks I would try it out[/QUOTE]

Why is everyone complaining about the pricing? We're talking about grading cards. We have had no problem paying PSA/BGS/SGC what they ask, and for years, they have not been able to meet their specified times.

HGA comes along with AI and a system that allows them to GUARANTEE their times. I'm going to try them out. What do you I have to lose? Absolutely NOTHING.

I send in 25 cards,
WORST case scenario, I get 25 cards slabbed. I'm going to submit with a few people, so my costs will be around $500, and I will get the cards back within 30 days. I have submitted tons of cards, so I feel that my experience will get me the normal grades of 9-10.
MIDDLE case scenario: If I were to send these cards into PSA, I wouldn't get them back until the NFL Season kicks off, when who knows what their values will be then.
BEST case scenario. I try out a new company, which based on the provided information, sounds really good. They use "Technology" to grade the cards, not people. I get the cards back before Opening Day of the 2021 MLB Season. I flip two of the cards to pay for my fees, and I re-evaluate my position.

I ask, what do I have to lose?

Also, toss in that you can actually choose the label types. Whether you want it to match the Team or match the Card. For example, I'm submitting a Bowman Chrome Alec Bohm Gold. I'm going to have the label match the Card, rather than the team. That should be cool. Submitting some 2018/19 Chrome Pinks. Pink labels should look sweet!

[QUOTE=messier2;16977380]How much are they paying you to pump their product?[/QUOTE]

How about you talk about what you know instead of taking out of your behind.

[QUOTE=Troutstanding;16984893]Why is everyone complaining about the pricing? We're talking about grading cards. We have had no problem paying PSA/BGS/SGC what they ask, and for years, they have not been able to meet their specified times.

HGA comes along with AI and a system that allows them to GUARANTEE their times. I'm going to try them out. [B]What do you I have to lose[/B]? Absolutely NOTHING.

I send in 25 cards,
WORST case scenario, I get 25 cards slabbed. I'm going to submit with a few people, so my costs will be around $500, and I will get the cards back within 30 days. I have submitted tons of cards, so I feel that my experience will get me the normal grades of 9-10.
MIDDLE case scenario: If I were to send these cards into PSA, I wouldn't get them back until the NFL Season kicks off, when who knows what their values will be then.
BEST case scenario. I try out a new company, which based on the provided information, sounds really good. They use "Technology" to grade the cards, not people. I get the cards back before Opening Day of the 2021 MLB Season. I flip two of the cards to pay for my fees, and I re-evaluate my position.

I ask, [B]what do I have to lose[/B]?

Also, toss in that you can actually choose the label types. Whether you want it to match the Team or match the Card. For example, I'm submitting a Bowman Chrome Alec Bohm Gold. I'm going to have the label match the Card, rather than the team. That should be cool. Submitting some 2018/19 Chrome Pinks. Pink labels should look sweet![/QUOTE]

Money? Seeing as there is a difference in selling price between a PSA 9 and SGC/BGS 9...and a greater drop to KSA and further to GAI/Gem...money is what you have to lose

[QUOTE=i4gotmyid;16986708]Money? Seeing as there is a difference in selling price between a PSA 9 and SGC/BGS 9...and a greater drop to KSA and further to GAI/Gem...money is what you have to lose[/QUOTE]

Not according to current sold listings. Look at what the HGA 9.5 Robert sold for compared to what the PSA 10 sells for at auction prices, not BIN/BO. I could grade and sell a Robert 5 different times through HGA before I get one back from PSA.

DISCLAIMER: No I have not submitted any to HGA but I will test them out IF i can get actually get a slot. I hear it is very difficult to actually submit cards. Sold out this week in about one minute. I hope they don't have to deal with bots taking up all the spots.

I’d take them a lot more seriously if they got the spelling right on the labels. I am pretty sure the “AI” on my word processor circa 1997 would’ve caught “saphire”. [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210214/903c5b5e515b1f607da7b52de99f7563.jpg[/IMG]


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Anyone figured out, or heard, what type of "AI" they are using?

Or is it just a marketing ploy?

Best I can tell, this is just GMA in a pretty package. How many employees do they have? Are they also located in a basement?

I've never use them but I just watched a video about how the customer enters exactly what the card is and I can see that is where the spelling of sapphire came from.

[QUOTE=rngrdanny22;16993544]Anyone figured out, or heard, what type of "AI" they are using?

Or is it just a marketing ploy?

Best I can tell, this is just GMA in a pretty package. How many employees do they have? Are they also located in a basement?[/QUOTE]

Adobe Illustrator?

What I have noticed is they haven’t developed a simple online database to search for information about a particular card, they have not published anything on their website about their grading standards, and there is no anti-counterfeiting technology for their slabs. I was hopeful that the QR code on the back would serve some purpose, but it looks like it just points to their website. We also know very little about the protection their slab provides against UV, moisture, etc.

Given all that I’m guessing they aren’t actively using services like Google Vision AI or Amazon Rekognition to support development of sophisticated neural networks for discerning the condition of sports cards.

They do have a modern label design that seems to be appealing to some. They also have spent a decent amount of time creating a social media presence.

[QUOTE=Iiicalypso;16992967]I’d take them a lot more seriously if they got the spelling right on the labels. I am pretty sure the “AI” on my word processor circa 1997 would’ve caught “saphire”. [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210214/903c5b5e515b1f607da7b52de99f7563.jpg[/IMG]


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I caught that too when I was looking at their cards on Ebay...I was also kinda stumped by the 10 centering grade, when I can see with my eyes that the right border is wider than the left...I would think a 10, using A.I., would mean 50/50...but then again, they don't have any grading info on their site that I am aware of

Here's another one...

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[url]https://twitter.com/trade_buy_sell/status/1361770752064782338[/url]

So, again, what is this "artificial intelligence" they are using?

The McGwire is visibly diamond cut and OC. Might be within 65/35 though just eye balling it. The corner looks jacked and the edges might have some chipping. I guess they also round 9.375 up and call it a 9.5. Doesn't seem right when you have two 9 grades.

Well, between the misspelling on Sapphire and that McGwire getting a 9.5, I guess I can close the book on trying to get a submission sent in the first 15 seconds they are available each week. I'm still hopeful, but those are major red flags if they are priding themselves on turnaround time and only accepting so many submissions each week to get it right.

Psa grading fake cards atleast they haven’t don’t a fake grade or trimmed yet. Psa is just awful and now u have to wait a year to get your cards back give me a break.

I think the grade is for the back of the card!!

[IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TbIAAOSwt9JgLBxy/s-l1600.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=KepCards;16995184]I caught that too when I was looking at their cards on Ebay...I was also kinda stumped by the 10 centering grade, when I can see with my eyes that the right border is wider than the left...I would think a 10, using A.I., would mean 50/50...but then again, they don't have any grading info on their site that I am aware of[/QUOTE]


In regards to the centering, they’ve stated on Facebook that they have their grading standard for centering set for 60/40, same as psa. If they get something 50/50, that is where the 10 and flawless grades come in. I can’t speak to your other concerns, but that’s what they said about that one.


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[QUOTE=alphaomegas;17002849]Psa grading fake cards atleast they haven’t don’t a fake grade or trimmed yet. Psa is just awful and now u have to wait a year to get your cards back give me a break.[/QUOTE]

Tell us how you really feel...

The seller took this turkey down......

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Maybe that corner damage may have occurred during encasement ;) and HGA's 9 centering standard is 70/30!