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KhalDrogo 03-01-2021 06:52 AM

PSA Complete Through Date (CTD) Tracker
 
This is something new and good! PSA has posted data on the oldest subs in-house for each level. The CTD is the day before the oldest open order that has been checked in to the PSA system. It should be interesting to see how this moves in the coming months. I am guessing that since the new group was willing to publish this, they feel pretty confident they are going to improve upon turnaround times.

March 1, 2021

Walk-Through: 24 Feb 2021
Super Express: 23 Feb 2021
Express: 7 Jan 2021
Regular: 1 Nov 2020
Economy: 2 Aug 2020
Value - Ultra Modern: 9 July 2020
Value - Modern: 30 June 2020
Value - Vintage: 10 July 2020
Value - TCG: 8 July 2020
Quarterly Specials: 30 June 2020

phdbeckett 03-01-2021 07:22 AM

Well, I have 2 Express and 1 super Express in line. I will let you know how those go.

xtnimot 03-01-2021 07:24 AM

[QUOTE=KhalDrogo;17054732]This is something new and good! PSA has posted data on the oldest subs in-house for each level. The CTD is the day before the oldest open order that has been checked in to the PSA system. It should be interesting to see how this moves in the coming months. I am guessing that since the new group was willing to publish this, they feel pretty confident they are going to improve upon turnaround times.

March 1, 2021

Walk-Through: 24 Feb 2021
Super Express: 23 Feb 2021
Express: 7 Jan 2021
Regular: 1 Nov 2020
Economy: 2 Aug 2020
Value - Ultra Modern: 9 July 2020
Value - Modern: 30 June 2020
Value - Vintage: 10 July 2020
Value - TCG: 8 July 2020
Quarterly Specials: 30 June 2020[/QUOTE]


Where is that located?

CheapThief 03-01-2021 07:25 AM

[QUOTE=xtnimot;17054759]Where is that located?[/QUOTE]


On the 'customer communication' page, just above all the blah blah blah about why they don't use a FIFO model.

letsgocapitals 03-01-2021 07:29 AM

[QUOTE=xtnimot;17054759]Where is that located?[/QUOTE]

Here you go... an actual link...

[url]https://www.psacard.com/communication[/url]

Transparency is a good thing!

Freshmaker 03-01-2021 07:29 AM

I kinda question the accuracy of that tracker. Do they really have a regular order entered Nov 1 still there? Those are taking 4-6 weeks currently


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KhalDrogo 03-01-2021 07:33 AM

[QUOTE=Freshmaker;17054768]I kinda question the accuracy of that tracker. Do they really have a regular order entered Nov 1 still there? Those are taking 4-6 weeks currently


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I'm sure they do. It's not always one grader doing the order. If someone sent in a 300 card Regular order with Pokemon, vintage football, ultra-modern basketball, and pre-war baseball, it may take awhile to work its way through.

I am most interested in seeing how far behind these times fall in proportion to the passing days. Hopefully they update the page daily.

Freshmaker 03-01-2021 07:49 AM

Yeah - it would be cool if there was a way to download the data and then track it. Obviously there’s not, but would be nice. Then we could graph the changes


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rcgdodge 03-01-2021 07:52 AM

wow, so my order that I sent out last October still has 6 more months to go.

That'll be over 1 year from mailing it out to having it back. Insane.

rwperu34 03-01-2021 08:10 AM

[QUOTE=Freshmaker;17054801]Yeah - it would be cool if there was a way to download the data and then track it. Obviously there’s not, but would be nice. Then we could graph the changes


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This data would take like four seconds to put in Excel. It's literally only 10 entries.

mcb0419 03-01-2021 08:15 AM

[QUOTE=rcgdodge;17054807]wow, so my order that I sent out last October still has 6 more months to go.

That'll be over 1 year from mailing it out to having it back. Insane.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't underestimate the impact that today's price changes will have on that. There has to be a turning point somewhere that makes it not worth paying $25 to grade a set of value modern cards like 2021 Topps base rookies, or 2020 Donruss football base rookies anymore. Maybe it wasn't at $15/card, but maybe it is different at $25/card

alphaomegas 03-01-2021 08:25 AM

[QUOTE=mcb0419;17054852]I wouldn't underestimate the impact that today's price changes will have on that. There has to be a turning point somewhere that makes it not worth paying $25 to grade a set of value modern cards like 2021 Topps base rookies, or 2020 Donruss football base rookies anymore. Maybe it wasn't at $15/card, but maybe it is different at $25/card[/QUOTE]

Are you stupid people will continue to send in junk. They just pass there fee into the customer. Prices going to the moon!!! I’ll be sending in thousands still probably every card I open and see.

CheapThief 03-01-2021 08:25 AM

[QUOTE=mcb0419;17054852]I wouldn't underestimate the impact that today's price changes will have on that. There has to be a turning point somewhere that makes it not worth paying $25 to grade a set of value modern cards like 2021 Topps base rookies, or 2020 Donruss football base rookies anymore. Maybe it wasn't at $15/card, but maybe it is different at $25/card[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Also, this should really slow down the amount of stuff that's been getting kicked to the front of the line via express and economy orders, which means they should be able to start making inroads on bulk.

phdbeckett 03-01-2021 08:26 AM

[QUOTE=rwperu34;17054836]This data would take like four seconds to put in Excel. It's literally only 10 entries.[/QUOTE]

Right. Just subtract the integer of today's date and then have a formula to calculate business days, and their posted dates.

alphaomegas 03-01-2021 08:36 AM

[QUOTE=CheapThief;17054889]Agreed. Also, this should really slow down the amount of stuff that's been getting kicked to the front of the line via express and economy orders, which means they should be able to start making inroads on bulk.[/QUOTE]

Screw that I pay express the big fee and I want it back. Pay to get rich in this market next time you pay the fee. Turn $100 raw card to 8k. I’ll keep paying the fees express.

KhalDrogo 03-01-2021 08:43 AM

[QUOTE=phdbeckett;17054892]Right. Just subtract the integer of today's date and then have a formula to calculate business days, and their posted dates.[/QUOTE]
Yes. I will plan to do this probably twice a month if they update at least that frequently.

ksemmel 03-01-2021 08:46 AM

Transparency is cool, however this data means nothing based off of this line, "The CTD is based on order entry date, which means the day the order was formally entered into the PSA system for authentication and grading."

Transparency would be when they actually receive the order in the mail. If it taken them 5 months to log in an order than this data is useless

rfgilles 03-01-2021 11:00 AM

[QUOTE=KhalDrogo;17054732]This is something new and good! PSA has posted data on the oldest subs in-house for each level. The CTD is the day before the oldest open order that has been checked in to the PSA system. It should be interesting to see how this moves in the coming months. I am guessing that since the new group was willing to publish this, they feel pretty confident they are going to improve upon turnaround times.

March 1, 2021

Walk-Through: 24 Feb 2021
Super Express: 23 Feb 2021
Express: 7 Jan 2021
Regular: 1 Nov 2020
Economy: 2 Aug 2020
Value - Ultra Modern: 9 July 2020
Value - Modern: 30 June 2020
Value - Vintage: 10 July 2020
Value - TCG: 8 July 2020
Quarterly Specials: 30 June 2020[/QUOTE]

It's a nice step, but undermined by the fact that orders aren't graded in the order that they are received. It also doesn't help that this data isn't front and center when a customer goes to submit.

xavieronly1 03-01-2021 11:13 AM

Regular: 1 Nov 2020

Are you sure the date is correct? I sent my "regular" order on Nov 15, 2020 and got back to me Dec 30, 2020.

Kuch86 03-01-2021 11:29 AM

Yeah, it's not a good way to gauge expected wait time.

It's just showing the last date every possible order at the given service level has been completed by.

KhalDrogo 03-01-2021 11:53 AM

[QUOTE=Kuch86;17055685]Yeah, it's not a good way to gauge expected wait time.

It's just showing the last date every possible order at the given service level has been completed by.[/QUOTE]
Internally, I’m sure they are looking at median and quartile times. This at least is a hard stop for people to look at. More info is always better.

TheHeel 03-01-2021 12:41 PM

FWIW, I have an ultra modern bulk sub that arrived on 7/23 and entered on 9/15. It is in Q2 as of last Thursday.

SleeperCards 03-01-2021 12:51 PM

[QUOTE=KhalDrogo;17054732]This is something new and good! PSA has posted data on the oldest subs in-house for each level. The CTD is the day before the oldest open order that has been checked in to the PSA system. It should be interesting to see how this moves in the coming months. I am guessing that since the new group was willing to publish this, they feel pretty confident they are going to improve upon turnaround times.

March 1, 2021

Walk-Through: 24 Feb 2021
Super Express: 23 Feb 2021
Express: 7 Jan 2021
Regular: 1 Nov 2020
Economy: 2 Aug 2020
Value - Ultra Modern: 9 July 2020
Value - Modern: 30 June 2020
Value - Vintage: 10 July 2020
Value - TCG: 8 July 2020
Quarterly Specials: 30 June 2020[/QUOTE]

I nominate you to post a weekly update :D

It's nice to see it officially instead of crowdsourcing it like we were in the other thread.

[QUOTE=KhalDrogo;17054952]Yes. I will plan to do this probably twice a month if they update at least that frequently.[/QUOTE]

I didn't read the entire thread obviously.

StlScott 03-01-2021 01:33 PM

[QUOTE=ksemmel;17054961]Transparency is cool, however this data means nothing based off of this line, "The CTD is based on order entry date, which means the day the order was formally entered into the PSA system for authentication and grading."

Transparency would be when they actually receive the order in the mail. If it taken them 5 months to log in an order than this data is useless[/QUOTE]


They are trying to make themselves look good by manipulating facts. This isnt about transparency. I totally agree with you.

rfgilles 03-01-2021 04:28 PM

[QUOTE=ksemmel;17054961]Transparency is cool, however this data means nothing based off of this line, "The CTD is based on order entry date, which means the day the order was formally entered into the PSA system for authentication and grading."

Transparency would be when they actually receive the order in the mail. If it taken them 5 months to log in an order than this data is useless[/QUOTE]

Or burying this information at the bottom of a Customer Communication page instead of on the submission landing page.

Does it bother anyone else that PSA doesn't even accurately represent their cases on the site? The cases are made to look black.


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