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Wolverine 03-30-2022 03:57 PM

Why the importance on staying with the same team?
 
Is it an OCD thing with fans or does it really make the player that much more of a legend if he stays with the same team his entire career?

Dodgerfan74 03-30-2022 03:59 PM

It does. Think Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken.
Current Clayton Kershaw

Wolverine 03-30-2022 04:03 PM

More of a legend with the fans of the team they stay with though? Ruth, Griffey, Mays, Ichiro & Aaron come to mind. Their careers don't seem diminished in the slightest by being with multiple teams.

BigL7370 03-30-2022 04:44 PM

It's a thing the older generation 'back in my day' passes onto the youth - a good company man who sticks in one spot for the entirety of his pro career.

I think in most cases it's up to the team whether that loyalty will be extended to a player - if they really wanted to keep a guy, they would.

rms13 03-30-2022 05:54 PM

Definitely a part of a bygone era. There is no loyalty on either side anymore so the odds of having players stay on a team for 20 years now are slim to none. Salary cap/luxury taxes also make it more impossible. As already pointed out there are plenty of legends that played for multiple teams. I think it helps legacy for guys that are not quite superstars but are local cult heroes. I’m a Red Sox fan and I think Pedroia playing his entire career in Boston helps his legacy among Red Sox fans. But Mookie will always be an all time Red Sox great and fan favorite even though he only played there a relatively short time because of how great he was and all he accomplished with the team.

doowopbruce 03-30-2022 05:59 PM

Babe Ruth played for 4 different teams. If it's good for the Babe it's okay with me.

mfw13 03-30-2022 07:09 PM

[QUOTE=Wolverine;18094895]Is it an OCD thing with fans or does it really make the player that much more of a legend if he stays with the same team his entire career?[/QUOTE]

I don't think it's staying with one team their whole career as much as it is staying with the team where they were most successful and/or staying with a team long enough to build up a strong base of support.

For example, even though they split time just about evenly between both teams,

Griffey Jr. (Mariners) > Griffey Jr. (Reds)
Pujols (Cardinals) > Pujols (Angels)
Will Clark (Giants) > Will Clark (Rangers/Orioles)
Wade Boggs (Red Sox) > Wade Boggs (Yankees/Rays)

People couldn't care less about non-Mariners Ichiro stuff....

It's all about the team where you were most successful/most loved....

pewe 03-30-2022 07:13 PM

Completing a successful career with a team certainly seems to help in the lore and long term popularity of some players:
-- Jeter
-- Ortiz
-- Ripken Jr.
-- etc.

dizzydolse 03-30-2022 07:18 PM

[QUOTE=pewe;18095335]Completing a successful career with a team certainly seems to help in the lore and long term popularity of some players:
-- Jeter
-- Ortiz
-- Ripken Jr.
-- etc.[/QUOTE]

You love Jeter

MoreToppsPlease 03-30-2022 07:22 PM

Sometimes a player moving around a lot makes him seem disloyal or greedy.

awz50 03-30-2022 07:23 PM

[QUOTE=Dodgerfan74;18094901]It does. Think Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken.
Current Clayton Kershaw[/QUOTE]

Current is yadi and waino

rms13 03-30-2022 07:36 PM

[QUOTE=pewe;18095335]Completing a successful career with a team certainly seems to help in the lore and long term popularity of some players:
-- Jeter
-- Ortiz
-- Ripken Jr.
-- etc.[/QUOTE]


Ortiz didn’t play his entire career in Boston.

rms13 03-30-2022 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=MoreToppsPlease;18095355]Sometimes a player moving around a lot makes him seem disloyal or greedy.[/QUOTE]


Not in the modern world. How many fans would turn down a job offer with 20% salary increase out of loyalty to their current employer?

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pewe 03-30-2022 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=rms13;18095391]Ortiz didn’t play his entire career in Boston.[/QUOTE]


Completing a long successful career in a city, and going out on a high note is the key… not whether the player ever was on another team for a short period of time early in their career.


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ThoseBackPages 03-30-2022 07:52 PM

[QUOTE=pewe;18095335]Completing a successful career with a team certainly seems to help in the lore and long term popularity of some players:
-- Jeter
-- Ortiz
-- Ripken Jr.
-- etc.[/QUOTE]

Ortiz was with Minnesota

ThoseBackPages 03-30-2022 07:53 PM

its cool, but when the GOATs move, it makes it OK in my book

pewe 03-30-2022 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=rms13;18095403]Not in the modern world. How many fans would turn down a job offer with 20% salary increase out of loyalty to their current employer?[/QUOTE]


Maybe depends on the industry, but I certainly see potential candidates dinged because they move job to job rapidly. It’s hard to get a job in the most attractive / desirable companies when acting that way as an employee.

Sure you can earn more, but hate your job, colleagues, product, customers, and company. Sounds like a bad life choice, to me. And that has certainly shaped where I work and $ / lifestyle trade offs.


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pewe 03-30-2022 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;18095444]Ortiz was with Minnesota[/QUOTE]


He completed a long successful career in Minnesota???


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ThoseBackPages 03-30-2022 07:56 PM

[QUOTE=pewe;18095453]He completed a long successful career in Minnesota???


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started there, then switched teams.

rms13 03-30-2022 07:59 PM

[QUOTE=pewe;18095451]Maybe depends on the industry, but I certainly see potential candidates dinged because they move job to job rapidly. It’s hard to get a job in the most attractive / desirable companies when acting that way as an employee.

Sure you can earn more, but hate your job, colleagues, product, customers, and company. Sounds like a bad life choice, to me. And that has certainly shaped where I work and $ / lifestyle trade offs.


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One of my former bosses told me he is skeptical of anyone that stays in a job for more than 2 years because it makes them seem like they’re not desirable candidates by other companies

pewe 03-30-2022 07:59 PM

[QUOTE=dizzydolse;18095344]You love Jeter[/QUOTE]


Millions of fans agree :)!


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pewe 03-30-2022 08:14 PM

Why the importance on staying with the same team?
 
[QUOTE=rms13;18095466]One of my former bosses told me he is skeptical of anyone that stays in a job for more than 2 years because it makes them seem like they’re not desirable candidates by other companies[/QUOTE]


I guess it might depend on the talent you are hiring, but it is pretty hard to build and scale and optimize a successful platform in only two years. Whether you are in a LOB or are a business owner.

I’ve seen this being important for both junior and senior roles you are hiring for.

Instead, this sounds like the classic behavior of a manager who has limited confidence and likes to hire B-quality candidates that are unlikely to outshine him. He’s at risk of having a low performing team :(


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pewe 03-30-2022 08:45 PM

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;18095458]started there, then switched teams.[/QUOTE]


So… my statement still stands on good footing? Completing a long successful career in a city can endear a player to a fan base?


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asujbl 03-30-2022 08:50 PM

Is it an OCD thing with fans? That may be the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen typed on a computer


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