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Metsfan1991 08-04-2022 06:05 AM

Justin Fields Thread
 
Very optimistic about Justin’s future with a new coach and offensive cordinator. Last year the coaching utilized his biggest strength in running the RPO 2% of the time! How absolutely insane!

Card wise it seems some of his stuff is overpriced, some under, but I personally think Justin has more upside then anyone in the class.

Anyone in here collect fields or have any predictions on his growth? It’s only training camp so far but he has been described as ‘dazzling’.


Thanks all!

Dave

starfox 08-04-2022 07:45 AM

Fields is good, but his team is not. Years of having so few draft picks is still hindering this team. It's still early, but Fields should prove his worth well before it's time to exercise or decline the team's fifth year option.

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Grid 08-04-2022 08:01 AM

That was Nagy beuing Nagy. Mitch has put him on blast plenty for forcing his QBs to play his game. Instead of designing a game plan to fit the strengths of his QBs.

It seems the new regime is going to cater to what Justin does best.

I wouldn't say I am sold on him, but he does have talent.

jplarson 08-04-2022 08:31 AM

[QUOTE=Grid;18343905]That was Nagy beuing Nagy. Mitch has put him on blast plenty for forcing his QBs to play his game. Instead of designing a game plan to fit the strengths of his QBs.[/QUOTE]

Really is a shame Nagy couldn't get out of his own way.

As a Bears fan I'm hoping he does great for us. As a collector I've picked up low end inserts and base cards for the hobby enjoyment but certainly no major money.

Grid 08-04-2022 10:41 AM

[QUOTE=jplarson;18343944]Really is a shame Nagy couldn't get out of his own way. [/QUOTE]

Yup. I know Ryan Pace got blown up as the GM. But the moves he made to build the team were mostly solid. His biggest mistake, was handing the team over to Nagy. Who just refused to do anything except push his own agenda.

Pace got Mitch, who I still think is talented. Before Nagy went Nagy, Mitch made the Pro Bowl by playing his game as a rookie. Nagy ruined that.

Pace knew Aikeem Hicks from back when he was with the Saints. Adding Hicks was a great move.

Pace drafted Roquan, and got us Mack. Picked Eddie Jackson and Cohen in the 4th round, which was a great value. And he brought in Allen Robinson and Robert Quinn.

If Pace would have just promoted Fangio to HC, let him turn over the reigns for offense to someone not named Nagy. And let Pace continue adding talent. It would have been a completely different team.

Soxrule111 08-04-2022 10:53 AM

I hope Im wrong, but I think Fields is trash. Will be traded after the season and the Bears Draft a New QB Top 3

exospheer 08-04-2022 11:07 AM

[QUOTE=Grid;18344201]Yup. I know Ryan Pace got blown up as the GM. But the moves he made to build the team were mostly solid. His biggest mistake, was handing the team over to Nagy. Who just refused to do anything except push his own agenda.

Pace got Mitch, who I still think is talented. Before Nagy went Nagy, Mitch made the Pro Bowl by playing his game as a rookie. Nagy ruined that.

Pace knew Aikeem Hicks from back when he was with the Saints. Adding Hicks was a great move.

Pace drafted Roquan, and got us Mack. Picked Eddie Jackson and Cohen in the 4th round, which was a great value. And he brought in Allen Robinson and Robert Quinn.

If Pace would have just promoted Fangio to HC, let him turn over the reigns for offense to someone not named Nagy. And let Pace continue adding talent. It would have been a completely different team.[/QUOTE]

Disagree with Pace. He overvalued some players and overpaid in terms of draft capital to get them. Overall his 1st and 2nd round picks were awful.

Fields is going to be great IMO. Has the right mentality and all the talent needed to succeed. People with his amount of talent and work ethnic usually excel unless something freaky happens.

Soxrule111 08-04-2022 11:14 AM

[QUOTE=exospheer;18344247]Disagree with Pace. He overvalued some players and overpaid in terms of draft capital to get them. Overall his 1st and 2nd round picks were awful.

Fields is going to be great IMO. Has the right mentality and all the talent needed to succeed. People with his amount of talent and work ethnic usually excel unless something freaky happens.[/QUOTE]

Have you watched any Bears Games Start to Finish that Fields Played in? I have not gotten the Right Mentality to Succeed at all from him.

jplarson 08-04-2022 11:16 AM

[QUOTE=Soxrule111;18344218]I think Fields is trash. [/QUOTE]

I don't know many QBs who would have succeeded in that offense with that playcalling and personnel last year.

Grid 08-04-2022 11:19 AM

[QUOTE=exospheer;18344247]Disagree with Pace. He overvalued some players and overpaid in terms of draft capital to get them. Overall his 1st and 2nd round picks were awful.

Fields is going to be great IMO. Has the right mentality and all the talent needed to succeed. People with his amount of talent and work ethnic usually excel unless something freaky happens.[/QUOTE]

I totally get people being so down on Pace. But he was building a team to win now. And that is what happens. You pay the stars, and you trade picks for players that can help you win now.

Once he moved on from John Fox, the team was 12-4 and lost a heart breaker in the playoffs. Everything was set, except for Nagy tanking the team.

Once that happened, and Mitch regressed, everything Pace did became a negative because the money was then wasted.

jplarson 08-04-2022 11:36 AM

[QUOTE=Soxrule111;18344264]Have you watched any Bears Games Start to Finish that Fields Played in? I have not gotten the Right Mentality to Succeed at all from him.[/QUOTE]

Have you watched any Bears games start to finish that Fields played that didn't involve Nagy?

I'm not ready to toss the dude in the trash heap. Maybe he does turn out, maybe he doesn't. Let's see what a different manager does for his productivity.

Grid 08-04-2022 11:47 AM

[QUOTE=jplarson;18344332]Have you watched any Bears games start to finish that Fields played that didn't involve Nagy?

I'm not ready to toss the dude in the trash heap. Maybe he does turn out, maybe he doesn't. Let's see what a different manager does for his productivity.[/QUOTE]

Thats exactly where I am on this. Nagy ran the 2017 Chiefs offense, when he got there in 2018. He let Mitch be Mitch, and Mitch went to the Pro Bowl and had his best year in the league.

Nagy went full Nagy in 2019, and Mitch's numbers nosedived, as Nagy made him a drop back and read QB. Even though he played in more games, his rushing yards and rushing TD's were cut in half. And he no longer extended plays with his legs.

I wont judge Fields with just a year under Nagy to go on. Nagy didnt want Fields, Pace did. And Pace forced Nagy to play him for the most part. Its like Nagy wanted to destroy the team out of spite.

Metsfan1991 08-04-2022 12:07 PM

Pump it up!

Zach Wilson is apparently being outperformed by Joe Flacco while fields is “dazzling”.

majestik101 08-04-2022 01:02 PM

If he was on any other team, I'd probably be more optimistic about his future. Chicago is Quarterback Purgatory

Grid 08-04-2022 02:02 PM

[QUOTE=majestik101;18344541]If he was on any other team, I'd probably be more optimistic about his future. Chicago is Quarterback Purgatory[/QUOTE]

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Siberian13 08-04-2022 03:39 PM

Hope he does well so azzjublees can finally celebrate a Buckeye QB in the pros

jplarson 08-04-2022 03:55 PM

[QUOTE=Siberian13;18344928]Hope he does well so azzjublees can finally celebrate a Buckeye QB in the pros[/QUOTE]

But that would leave Cleveland as the sole proprietor of the hit nightclub Quarterback Purgatory.

Truly a rock and a hard place conundrum for him :/

Siberian13 08-04-2022 04:05 PM

[QUOTE=jplarson;18344975]But that would leave Cleveland as the sole proprietor of the hit nightclub Quarterback Purgatory.

Truly a rock and a hard place conundrum for him :/[/QUOTE]

Deshaun will be starting soon to help ease his Brownie QB pain. Could be a good next few years for him.

exospheer 08-04-2022 04:47 PM

[QUOTE=Soxrule111;18344264]Have you watched any Bears Games Start to Finish that Fields Played in? I have not gotten the Right Mentality to Succeed at all from him.[/QUOTE]

Yes...

Hard work, the ability to not be gun shy and leadership. Not sure what mentality you are looking for in a QB, but he has shown glimpses of all of those things. He needs to work on slowing the game down and football work, but I think he can overcome it. As others have said, the thing holding him back is the Bears.

jmcca170 08-04-2022 10:38 PM

[QUOTE=Soxrule111;18344264]Have you watched any Bears Games Start to Finish that Fields Played in? I have not gotten the Right Mentality to Succeed at all from him.[/QUOTE]


Go watch the Steelers game again


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Metsfan1991 08-08-2022 04:33 PM

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To the moon!!!!!


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To the moon again!!!!!!!


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asujbl 08-08-2022 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=Siberian13;18344928]Hope he does well so azzjublees can finally celebrate a Buckeye QB in the pros[/QUOTE]

Wait until Stroud goes #1

thenwhatjk 08-08-2022 04:45 PM

Be cool if he signed his contenders

Siberian13 08-08-2022 04:49 PM

[QUOTE=thenwhatjk;18352237]Be cool if he signed his contenders[/QUOTE]

I wouldn’t even risk a redemption from Panini at this point. Even if he’s your PC guy.


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