Did WhatNot Open a FAKE 1986-87 Fleer Basketball Box at The National?
 

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Thoughts?

Sure seems like it. Thats brutal.

cesspool

crazy stuff

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

I think he's spot on. Someone had about $40k worth of 86-87 fleer cards and a used box with the wrappers and turned it into $100k.

Wait, you mean someone who said they knew what they were doing was exaggerating? In the sports card industry? No, say it ain't so! Can't be!

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[QUOTE=gottagitdemjs;18357661]If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

I think he's spot on. Someone had about $40k worth of 86-87 fleer cards and a used box with the wrappers and turned it into $100k.[/QUOTE]

$168,000

This is ugly and not a good take for the hobby. Questions: where did the box come from, is the BBCE wrapping original or home made, did BBCE actually authenticate the box, and etc.

[QUOTE=gododgersfan;18357988]This is ugly and not a good take for the hobby. Questions: where did the box come from, is the BBCE wrapping original or home made, did BBCE actually authenticate the box, and etc.[/QUOTE]

Now way that not one of them opening the packs didn't know something was off pulling Johnson after Johnson, consecutive numbering, and in alphabetical order. I really would like to know who all was involved in the entire thing and how much they did or didn't know before hand. Very Very bad look.

If you subscribe to that theory, guess they got the good and bad boxes mixed up.

Uh oh…

[url]https://youtu.be/vL33mtprMZY[/url]

[QUOTE=sethc1020;18358068]Now way that not one of them opening the packs didn't know something was off pulling Johnson after Johnson, consecutive numbering, and in alphabetical order. I really would like to know who all was involved in the entire thing and how much they did or didn't know before hand. Very Very bad look.[/QUOTE]

It was a really odd box. When I saw the first pack, my first thought it was no good. It seemed like it had the correct cards that would typically be in that pack, however they did not alternate like they should. They were grouped together alphabetically instead. Maybe that's happened before, but I've never seen that type of sequencing in the packs.

It's normally something like:

Kellogg
Williams
Jordan
Williams
Johnson

Instead it was Kellogg/Jordan/Johnson then a separate group with the W's.

It's not unusual to have multiple cards in a pack with the last name Johnson. It's just odd that they were all in a row instead of each Johnson being separated by another card.

[QUOTE=sethc1020;18358068]Now way that not one of them opening the packs didn't know something was off pulling Johnson after Johnson, consecutive numbering, and in alphabetical order. I really would like to know who all was involved in the entire thing and how much they did or didn't know before hand. Very Very bad look.[/QUOTE]

I also kinda thought it was strange when Packman was pulling doubles in the same pack.

BBCE keeps on failing. Scary the blind trust so many have put in that greedy fat pig.

this hobby is constant entertainment

[QUOTE=cruiserdaddy7;18358148]BBCE keeps on failing. Scary the blind trust so many have put in that greedy fat pig.[/QUOTE]

Especially since it seems he authenticates packs for PSA which opens a huge can of worms for them, in my insignificant opinion. .

[QUOTE=Aardvark;18358162]Especially since it seems he authenticates packs for PSA which opens a huge can of worms for them, in my insignificant opinion. .[/QUOTE]

There have been issues with his authenticated packs through PSA before as well. Probably not an isolated mistake.

I would not feel great about sitting on "sealed" wax of any high value product right now.

[QUOTE=JAMSC;18358116]Uh oh…

[url]https://youtu.be/vL33mtprMZY[/url][/QUOTE]

:eek:

Things are about to get interesting

#hobbystrong
#growingthehobby

lmao

[QUOTE=JAMSC;18358116]Uh oh…

[url]https://youtu.be/vL33mtprMZY[/url][/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=gododgersfan;18357988]This is ugly and not a good take for the hobby. Questions: where did the box come from, is the BBCE wrapping original or home made, did BBCE actually authenticate the box, and etc.[/QUOTE]

Looking at the wrapping, the one Goldin sold, appears to be the same box that BBCE authenticated.

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I didn't watch the break or follow it, but how many Jordan rc's did they pull out of the box? I guess even if they pulled a couple the person faking the box could have replaced the original ones pulled with lesser quality copies (off center, bad corners, etc...).