Joe Montana’s best QB of all time
 

Dan Marino, who played 17 seasons with the Miami Dolphins, never won a championship, but Montana gives him the nod for "best" quarterback of all time.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-legend-joe-montana-reveals-best-quarterback-all-time[/url]

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Wow! Not only is he the GOAT QB (20th century division) but he's also the most modest and humble QB of all time. Montana just keeps racking up accolades!

Jennifer Montana I believe stated that Joe Montana was the greatest quarterback of all time. The accolades are pouring in. Didn’t the Priest at the campus of Notre Dame call Joe, Saint Montana, the Best in the Bay ?

Best passer of all time does not equal the best quarterback of all time

Mutually exclusive

If you read the article, Montana delineates between "Best" and "Greatest".

"Greatest" refers to career achievements.

"Best" refers to physical talent.

I can absolutely listen to an argument that Dan Marino is one of the all time great physical talents to play QB. And I'd agree that he was a better physical talent than Montana.

Now, Greatest? By this definition, nobody that I know of is saying Marino was the greatest.

Warren Moon is right up there with Marino.

[QUOTE=tjforce;19024143]If you read the article, Montana delineates between "Best" and "Greatest".

"Greatest" refers to career achievements.

"Best" refers to physical talent.

I can absolutely listen to an argument that Dan Marino is one of the all time great physical talents to play QB. And I'd agree that he was a better physical talent than Montana.

Now, Greatest? By this definition, nobody that I know of is saying Marino was the greatest.[/QUOTE]
Just like Rodgers (-1 ring)

Forty F'in Niners.

No.....

Just someone saying nice things about another person. No mean.

Montana isn't going to say. "I was better than him."

[QUOTE=Boo;19024069]Dan Marino, who played 17 seasons with the Miami Dolphins, never won a championship, but Montana gives him the nod for "best" quarterback of all time.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-legend-joe-montana-reveals-best-quarterback-all-time[/url]

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Poor Dolphins/Marino fans

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Mahomies are super angry right now.

[QUOTE=BostonNut;19024616]Mahomies are super angry right now.[/QUOTE]

Wake me up when Mahomes passes Aikman first. Right now he's Eli Manning but loses to Brady in Super Bowls.

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[QUOTE=jplarson;19024846]Wake me up when Mahomes passes Aikman first. Right now he's Eli Manning but loses to Brady in Super Bowls.

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Terry Bradshaw is the OG.

4 SBs and country music swagger. Two things Mahomes can only dream of.

[QUOTE=jplarson;19024846]Wake me up when Mahomes passes Aikman first. Right now he's Eli Manning but loses to Brady in Super Bowls.

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What years did Aikman and Eli win their NFL MVP Awards? Being a game manager on a stacked team doesn't equate to being a great QB.

[QUOTE=rats60;19025053]Being a game manager on a stacked team doesn't equate to being a great QB.[/QUOTE]

Brady couldn't win it all with the most stacked roster of all time and Mahomes failed at least twice with stacked rosters.

This isn't the argument that you think it is.

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;19025071]Brady couldn't win it all with the most stacked roster of all time and Mahomes failed at least twice with stacked rosters.

This isn't the argument that you think it is.[/QUOTE]

Yeah but Mahomes had a terrible Oline and Chris Jones jumped offside.


So his SBWar is still 4.

Maybe Joe meant that Marino is the most athletic he's ever seen when he said "best". Marino isn't even in the top 15 of "best" quarterbacks of all time. I don't know what ol' Joe was smoking when he invoked Marino's name in between sips of room temperature Guiness.

I will take Montana's word. One of the greatest qb's in history said Marino is one of the best. I would tend to believe someone that actually played in the nfl at the highest level more than people who havent.

[QUOTE=JeremyNick;19025091]So his SBWar is still 4.[/QUOTE]

SBWar would be the ultimate pumper stat.

You've unlocked the hobby killswitch.

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;19025215]SBWar would be the ultimate pumper stat.

You've unlocked the hobby killswitch.[/QUOTE]

I can't patent it.

It's the mental juju Mahomies sprinkle on every situation in which the expected outcome of a Mahomes play, game or season is not realized.

He's never thrown an int, lost a game or not won the SB (when adjusted for hypeflation)

[QUOTE=JeremyNick;19025250]I can't patent it.

It's the mental juju Mahomies sprinkle on every situation in which the expected outcome of a Mahomes play, game or season is not realized.

He's never thrown an int, lost a game or not won the SB (when adjusted for hypeflation)[/QUOTE]

How many SBWars are we allowed to credit QBs with each season?

Did Hurts, Allen, and Burrow each earn 1 SBWar last season?

Did Mahomes earn a SBWar of 2 for his dominant 2018 season?

Marino and Rodgers maybe the two most talented QB's to ever play the game. But both have way underperformed in the post-season with only 1 ring between them. But both will be thought of as top 5-10 QB's all time. You don't need to have a bunch of rings to be great. Look at Bradshaw he has a bunch of rings but no one will ever say he's a top 10 QB.

The sheer willful amnesia by people pretending that Brady wasn't slapped with the "game manager" rap for the first half of his career is astounding.

[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;19025253]How many SBWars are we allowed to credit QBs with each season?

Did Hurts, Allen, and Burrow each earn 1 SBWar last season?

Did Mahomes earn a SBWar of 2 for his dominant 2018 season?[/QUOTE]

Burrow had a -1 SBWar for his SB loss, despite having a completely decimated Oline.

Mahomes had a +2 SBWar for his SB loss because he had a completely decimated Oline.

Allen has a -3 SBWar because he lost to Mahomes in the AFCC game when he didn't get the ball in OT

Mahomes has a +2 SBWar because he did not get the ball in OT of the AFCC game

The formula becomes apparent the more you listen to the arguments.

[QUOTE=majestik101;19025160] Marino isn't even in the top 15 of "best" quarterbacks of all time.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=TheFrenzy;19025268]The sheer willful amnesia by people pretending that Brady wasn't slapped with the "game manager" rap for the first half of his career is astounding.[/QUOTE]

The one that always gets me is when people try to compare Mahomes last 5 years with Brady's first 5 years (as a starter) and try to say that Brady was better. Mahomes was absolutely better over those stretches.

Now, compare with Brady's run from 2014-2018 when he won 3 Super Bowls, 2 Super Bowl MVPs, 1 MVP, 2 MVP runner ups, you have a much better argument.

Brady from 2014-18 was better than Brady 2001-2005, and that shouldn't be at all controversial.