Old Collection Found! - Mantle, Paige, Mays, Jackie ++
 

Long story short…
Was on Facebook marketplace and saw someone selling a “pile” of 1989 UD low series packs. $1 each. Looked at who was selling and realized it is a coworker of mine. It was just listed so I told her to take down the post and let me help her sell those for much more than the $1 she wanted. While on the phone she said she had some old cards that she wanted to sell that were her dads. 1st pic was a box of 1989 Donruss singles. Next pic was this…

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Then this…
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Then…

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Before she sent more I called her back and asked her if she knew the value of what she had. She mentioned that she knew they had some value but really not sure. I told her to send me a pic of all of the cards in the box if possible…

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Yep, there is a 53 Mantle in there along with some other really great cards!

We talked for a while and I talked her in to putting $$ into grading these before she put them up for sale.

Saying that, what do you guys suggest for vintage. I see arguments being made for SGC as well as obviously PSA.

Thanks for any thoughts. This is a huge deal for them as her mom could really use the money!

Finally…if I didn’t see the post for the 89 UD packs, these cards were probably going into their garage sale this weekend!


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Sounds like she is looking to grade then immediately sell?

PSA. Best ROI. No other option should be considered.

no common cards?

as much as PSA would get the most money in return, SGC will be cheaper and faster

I think I would have a Fred Sanford style heart attack if someone sent me that picture.

You might could suggest grading just one card ‘express’ then selling it quickly to fund the whole project. Or just generally consider grading turn-around times, etc., and various realities of selling the cards slowly/singly vs. consignors, auction house, etc. Plenty of threads here with the +/- laid out.

[QUOTE=MiamiMarlinsFan;19507960]Sounds like she is looking to grade then immediately sell?



PSA. Best ROI. No other option should be considered.[/QUOTE]When people say this, they incorrectly assume a grade for grade equivalence. What happens when your card gets a PSA 3 but gets an SGC 5? That could make a big difference.

I don't say that to suggest SGC, but to suggest it's not as simple as telling someone to always go with PSA for ROI. Each card and condition must be evaluated individually in light of expected grade from each company. For instance, PSA tends to be more forgiving in vintage with centering. And since grade often means less with vintage collectors than eye appeal (unless we are talking high grade where the registry comes into play), these things must be considered when choosing a grading company for vintage. And as TBP points out, grading fees is part of the ROI equation. Upcharges come hard at lower values with PSA than SGC, which can cut into profits.

[QUOTE=base set;19507978]I think I would have a Fred Sanford style heart attack if someone sent me that picture.

You might could suggest grading just one card ‘express’ then selling it quickly to fund the whole project. Or just generally consider grading turn-around times, etc., and various realities of selling the cards slowly/singly vs. consignors, auction house, etc. Plenty of threads here with the +/- laid out.[/QUOTE]

You may also want to send just one in first to verify authenticity of these cards. Kind of a crazy collection for someone to just have around unaware of the value.

[QUOTE=MiamiMarlinsFan;19507993]You may also want to send just one in first to verify authenticity of these cards. Kind of a crazy collection for someone to just have around unaware of the value.[/QUOTE]


I have no doubt of authenticity. I have been buying and selling cards for 35+ years and have lots of experience with vintage. What I haven’t really done much of is grade cards.

Yes, she wants to grade and then sell right away. I think her mom is in need of the money

Thanks for the info so far from everyone!


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Go with the company known for grading vintage over possible ROI. I mean after all she was going to sell them for $1. SGC all the way

[QUOTE=OhioLawyerF5;19507991]When people say this, they incorrectly assume a grade for grade equivalence. What happens when your card gets a PSA 3 but gets an SGC 5? That could make a big difference.

I don't say that to suggest SGC, but to suggest it's not as simple as telling someone to always go with PSA for ROI. Each card and condition must be evaluated individually in light of expected grade from each company. For instance, PSA tends to be more forgiving in vintage with centering. And since grade often means less with vintage collectors than eye appeal (unless we are talking high grade where the registry comes into play), these things must be considered when choosing a grading company for vintage. And as TBP points out, grading fees is part of the ROI equation. Upcharges come hard at lower values with PSA than SGC, which can cut into profits.[/QUOTE]

I don’t think OP is interested in putting that level of fine detail work in.

[QUOTE=michaeltgraham;19507996]I have no doubt of authenticity. I have been buying and selling cards for 35+ years and have lots of experience with vintage. What I haven’t really done much of is grade cards.

Yes, she wants to grade and then sell right away. I think her mom is in need of the money

Thanks for the info so far from everyone!


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Congrats then! These cards will sell for a lot of money whether you use SGC or PSA.

Do you have a pic of the back of that Jackie?

[QUOTE=MiamiMarlinsFan;19507993]You may also want to send just one in first to verify authenticity of these cards. Kind of a crazy collection for someone to just have around unaware of the value.[/QUOTE]

I would go with a “sometimes” on that. A friend of mine with zero cards experience asked me about an Aaron rookie “found” at a benefit auction for just $20, where no other cards were present. I told him the most realistic outcome by far was that it was a reprint. No harm no foul, the point of the exercise was to pay someone’s medical bills via donated items to bid on. So his son now owns a handsome Aaron RC reprint to admire and they kicked down $20 to help someone. No one knew who anonymously donated it into a drop box.

That many similar vintage in one place though, is like the complete inverse of what I just described.

you didn't rip her off and get them for pennies on the dollar? What's wrong with you man?

[QUOTE=MiamiMarlinsFan;19508008]I don’t think OP is interested in putting that level of fine detail work in.[/QUOTE]How can you make that assumption? OP came here and started a thread for specific advice. Seems like you assume OP isn't interested in putting in work to maximize profit just to support the advice you gave, which was lazy and potentially bad advice. :coffee: Remember, I was responding to your post that said "no other option should be considered." It's irrelevant what type of effort OP wants to put in when I was countering your inaccurate claim.

[QUOTE=OhioLawyerF5;19508037][B]How can you make that assumption?[/B] OP came here and started a thread for specific advice. Seems like you assume OP isn't interested in putting in work to maximize profit just to support the advice you gave, which was lazy and potentially bad advice. :coffee: Remember, I was responding to your post that said "no other option should be considered." It's irrelevant what type of effort OP wants to put in when I was countering your inaccurate claim.[/QUOTE]

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Yes, she wants to grade and then sell right away. I think her mom is in need of the money
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Dude… chill out. I stand by what I said. I have my advice, you’re welcomed to give yours. If you want a debate, go find whitmm or one of your other buddies on here who enjoy jibber jabber.

[QUOTE=MiamiMarlinsFan;19508013]Congrats then! These cards will sell for a lot of money whether you use SGC or PSA.[/QUOTE]


I am excited to see them and get her some good $$$$. It’s a Great family.


I will post some better pics tonight after she drops them off to me


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You baseball boys are wild

[QUOTE=OhioLawyerF5;19508037]How can you make that assumption? OP came here and started a thread for specific advice. Seems like you assume OP isn't interested in putting in work to maximize profit just to support the advice you gave, which was lazy and potentially bad advice. :coffee: Remember, I was responding to your post that said "no other option should be considered." It's irrelevant what type of effort OP wants to put in when I was countering your inaccurate claim.[/QUOTE]

Do you post anything that isn't directly or indirectly insulting someone? Or saying they were wrong/correcting them?

Great stuff OP. I hope whichever option she chooses works out for her.

[QUOTE=MiamiMarlinsFan;19508057]Dude… chill out. I stand by what I said. I have my advice, you’re welcomed to give yours. If you want a debate, go find whitmm or one of your other buddies on here who enjoy jibber jabber.[/QUOTE]Dude, I gave a detailed response to the OP, as requested. I just happened to contradict your one sentence response. Maybe you need to chill out. You were the one who came at me saying OP didn't care enough to utilize my advice. It's weird how you think anyone who contradicts you needs to chill out. If you had just let my post go, I never would have replied. But you didn't. It contradicted you, so you had to give me some lame excuse for why OP doesn't care. If you don't enjoy debate, stop replying to me. Because if you do, I will respond. I'm perfectly chill, thanks.

I had a nearly identical situation with a co-worker who found 40-45 pre-war cards in PSA 2-6 condition. I sent one to SGC to verify authenticity and then waited for a vintage bulk submission special to PSA, just invoiced my co-worker for doing it. I think the most important thing to convey to your friend is that there is no rush, this is found money, sure sell it if you want to or maybe piece it out but unless they're in dire straits you want to be smart about maximizing return on something like this.

Is she hot? Do we even know?

[QUOTE=awz50;19508098]Do you post anything that isn't directly or indirectly insulting someone? Or saying they were wrong/correcting them?[/QUOTE]Troll someone else. I posted a thoughtful post to OP with useful information. I was then told OP didn't want detailed advice. And I'm the one being insulting? That's crazy.

Funny, I don't see you being helpful to OP. Just attacking me. :coffee:

A few of the auction houses will handle grading and selling. She’ll make less due to the commission, but depending on her appetite for the process it might be worth considering.

[QUOTE=michaeltgraham;19508072]I am excited to see them and get her some good $$$$. It’s a Great family.


I will post some better pics tonight after she drops them off to me


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Super cool of you to be helping them out. Good luck on the sales.