Roger Maris HOF
 

Im sure this has been brought up before...But,why isnt Maris in the hall of fame?Makes no sense

1 epic season and another great season is not enough. There are certain names that are will live on in baseball like Maris, Larsen, Bobby Thompson, and Tommy John. Of those players, Tommy John should be the one in for his stats and his relevant name in the hobby with his surgery.

Denny McLain is another name that is similar to Maris. Had maybe one of the greatest pitching seasons in MLB history with 31 wins, getting both the Cy Young and MVP. Followed that up with another Cy Young.

[QUOTE=katho;19817609]Im sure this has been brought up before...But,why isnt Maris in the hall of fame?Makes no sense[/QUOTE]

Same career WAR as Chili Davis.

Didn't do enough in his entire career.

Peak seasons were great, though.

[QUOTE=hammertime;19817622]Same career WAR as Chili Davis.[/QUOTE]
And just shy of Baines, per Baseball Ref, 38.8 v. 38.3

he should be!

While I don't think he did enough to be in the hall, his legend lives on here in Fargo.

My grandpa worked with Roger's dad for a few years before Rudy retired. My aunt has a picture of Roger, Rudy, My grandpa, and my father when he was in 1st or 2nd grade. Pretty cool...to me anways.

Just not on the same level as legends like Freddie Lindstrom, Ross Youngs, Ray Schalk and Harold Baines

It makes a lot of sense why he is not in.

Higher WAR then Harold, still not a HOFer

Willie Randolph pisses over all these guys in WAR. and I think Giancarlo Stanton just passed Brett Gardner. WAR is fun.

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By the numbers it will never show he deserves to be in... However you can't tell the story of baseball without Roger Maris and because of this I wouldn't have a problem with him being elected one day.... Simple opinion

I know there has to be players that were inducted with similar stats as Rogers.Im going to go look them up....Thanks for all the answers and FWIW I think Denny Mcclain should have been inducted also

They should change the name from Hall of Fame to Hall of Stats since that's all that matters.

That said. His stats weren't good enough.

It is kinda wild when you look at his career numbers. That one year just explodes off the page.

[QUOTE=katho;19817609]Im sure this has been brought up before...But,why isnt Maris in the hall of fame?Makes no sense[/QUOTE]

It is surprising he hasn’t made it. When he was still alive, Mickey Mantle was a pretty big Maris advocate. But Maris didn’t appear on a Veteran’s Committee ballot until 1994 and the Mick would be gone a year later. With Hack Wilson being in the Hall of Fame I always assumed Maris was going to be a shoo-in. Wilson got in because he owned the single season RBI record while Maris owned the most important single season record. 40 years ago, it seemed obvious the single season HR holder was also getting in. Of all candidates before Maris, only 1 with 40%+ of the BBWAA vote hasn't gotten in & only 1 with a top 5 finish hasn't. (Now there are 6) He’s one of a very small list of players who got 40%+ on the BBWAA ballot not to eventually make it…yet.

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[QUOTE=Onions;19817656]While I don't think he did enough to be in the hall, his legend lives on here in Fargo.

My grandpa worked with Roger's dad for a few years before Rudy retired. My aunt has a picture of Roger, Rudy, My grandpa, and my father when he was in 1st or 2nd grade. Pretty cool...to me anways.[/QUOTE]

I was excited to see the Roger Maris Museum when I moved into the area. I put the address into Google but was saddened when I saw they built a mall on top of where it once was.

Later, while shopping at said mall, I realized that it's actually in the mall next to a nail salon and a Best Buy. It's small but nicely done.

[QUOTE=ottobord;19817699]Higher WAR then Harold, still not a HOFer[/QUOTE]

HOF voters don't care about WAR.

[QUOTE=rats60;19817866]HOF voters don't care about WAR.[/QUOTE]

Not true at all. The only reason certain players got voted in was because of WAR -- Mike Mussina, Scott Rolen, Joe Mauer, and Todd Helton.

On the flip side, Fred McGriff didn't get voted in because of his relatively low WAR.

He absolutely belongs in the hall of fame. He did something notable. It made him famous. That should be the parameter.

But the hall of fame isn't actually the hall of fame, it's the lifetime achievement award. Which is what they should call it.

[QUOTE=Blamo;19817917]He absolutely belongs in the hall of fame. He did something notable. It made him famous. That should be the parameter.

But the hall of fame isn't actually the hall of fame, it's the lifetime achievement award. Which is what they should call it.[/QUOTE]

Maris along with other famous baseball moments are represented well in the museum, just not in the hall of plaques. Interesting though most people are shocked to find that Maris isn't a Hofer.

Okay, it makes little sense to respond to a "why isn't Maris in the Hall of Fame" by falling back on WAR, which wasn't a thing when Maris was around.

Yes, he had the two other-worldly seasons, and was solid in a few more. But he was largely cooked by the time he hit 30. As such, his career numbers fall short: 1300 hits / 275 home runs / 850 RBIs (not to mention a .260 batting average), only four All-Star seasons... From that perspective, he's basically Raul Mondesi.

He also hit the HOF ballot at a terrible time - literally on the same one as Mickey Mantle (and 15 others who've now been sent to Cooperstown). His numbers pale in comparison to Mantle, and even players such as Eddie Matthews, who took five turns to get the call.

(I also can't speak about the relationship with the media. He was famously not as outgoing as Mantle. Don't know if there was acrimony).

It's not an apples-to-apples comparison, but I'm sort of reminded of Denny McClain the pitcher. He had two years as the greatest pitcher on the planet, but such a short career.

He'll, of course, always have a spot in baseball lore. Just like so many others. Hall of very good. Hall of Legends. And that should be good enough.

Maris was basically a one-year wonder.

Well, he had maybe a three-year stretch of being an elite slugger. But if you take away his ‘61 season, then nobody even knows who he is.


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there are some clowns in the hobby that think Aaron Judge is the single season Home Run King because he hit 62 home runs in one season.

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;19818014]there are some clowns in the hobby that think Aaron Judge is the single season Home Run King because he hit 62 home runs in one season.[/QUOTE]how great is that?

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