Is it over for Jordan Lawlar?
 

The once heralded prospect was optioned down to AAA yesterday.

His career numbers in the majors: 4-50, ba .080, 0 hr, 0 rbi, including an 0-19 total appearance in 2025.

Is his hobby career toast - does a AAAA player really make the cut in today’s extremely competitive and instant gratification environment?

[QUOTE=hermanotarjeta;19919584]The once heralded prospect was optioned down to AAA yesterday.

His career numbers in the majors: 4-50, ba .080, 0 hr, 0 rbi, including an 0-19 total appearance in 2025.

Is his hobby career toast - does a AAAA player really make the cut in today’s extremely competitive and instant gratification environment?[/QUOTE]


I’m not gonna write off a 22yr old kid as 4A.
As far as hobby, in my newbie experience every year ya’ll gravitate to the next big thing, and most severely underwhelm.

1st tier hobby potential is prolly toast
He’ll need a massive post hype push to become relevant again. Unfortunately, like many other top guys who initially fail, his cards started off so high it will take a lot of market adjustment(falling prices) to make him worth a buying risk for a rebound. Generally speaking from how these play out in the last 5-8 years there will be a lot of early bag holders propping up auction prices and hitting the hopium pipe rather than truly dumping and letting him go at big losses.
There are too many other productive players at more reasonable prices to pursue to interest me.
The guy who has been blocking him(Perdomo)is dirt cheap, seems to be developing nicely at the plate and is a big part of the team too.

will never hobby make it.

Corbin is on life support and you think this guy will be better?

[QUOTE=hermanotarjeta;19919584]The once heralded prospect was optioned down to AAA yesterday.

His career numbers in the majors: 4-50, ba .080, 0 hr, 0 rbi, including an 0-19 total appearance in 2025.

Is his hobby career toast - does a AAAA player really make the cut in today’s extremely competitive and instant gratification environment?[/QUOTE]

I am beginning to think that this up-back-up is much more common than being called -up and staying in the MLB. Many of these young men are stars and are not used to failing. Baseball, as we all know, is to such a large part a mental game. Learning how to deal with a slump, how to shake off an error etc.-comes only with experience and time I believe.

[QUOTE=Galileo77;19919619]I am beginning to think that this up-back-up is much more common than being called -up and staying in the MLB. Many of these young men are stars and are not used to failing. Baseball, as we all know, is to such a large part a mental game. Learning how to deal with a slump, how to shake off an error etc.-comes only with experience and time I believe.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, the hobby has no patience for time.

Every year there are 30+ new generational first rounders to chase.

anybody that thought a diamondbacks prospect was going to be a hobby star needs to have their head checked

[QUOTE=boxbuster7;19919623]anybody that thought a diamondbacks prospect was going to be a hobby star needs to have their head checked[/QUOTE]

By a jumbo jet!

[QUOTE=hermanotarjeta;19919625]By a jumbo jet![/QUOTE]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo!!!!!

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;19919609]will never hobby make it.

Corbin is on life support and you think this guy will be better?[/QUOTE]

Great point.

I can’t see anyone else surpassing Corbin on the hobby meter in Arizona and he’s already set on forgotten!

What did his base PSA 10 BCA peak at?

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;19919626]WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo!!!!![/QUOTE]

TBP gets it!

Oh wow. $850-$900. And still selling for over $100.

At least find something more fun to piss your money away on.

[QUOTE=KhalDrogo;19919636]Oh wow. $850-$900. And still selling for over $100.

At least find something more fun to piss your money away on.[/QUOTE]

That was during the pandemic too.

Not too shabby!

[QUOTE=hermanotarjeta;19919645]That was during the pandemic too.

Not too shabby![/QUOTE]
Sold a green auto on release weekend for $1500…i remember laughing at how fast it went at that number

[QUOTE=jbriskin05;19919648]Sold a green auto on release weekend for $1500…i remember laughing at how fast it went at that number[/QUOTE]

Man, raw chrome autos out of breaks must have sold for around $300-$500 in 2021, I believe. At least that was the going rate for the top dawgs.

You people are crazy. Are you seriously telling me that if he comes back up and hits .350 with 45 HR every year for the next 10 years with 60+ WAR by 32 years old that he won't be a hobby superstar?

This site is nuts, and so is this phantom concept of "the hobby" you all refer to.

The fact is that nobody is hobby dead at 22, no matter what their hype was or how bad they were at 21 or 22. They are young enough to put together a career that could absolutely put them in the hobby pantheon.

I don't think Lawler will be that guy, but saying no matter what he does he's already hobby irrelevant is just stupid.

[QUOTE=OhioLawyerF5;19919660]You people are crazy. Are you seriously telling me that if he comes back up and hits .350 with 45 HR every year for the next 10 years with 60+ WAR by 32 years old that he won't be a hobby superstar?

This site is nuts, and so is this phantom concept of "the hobby" you all refer to.

The fact is that nobody is hobby dead at 22, no matter what their hype was or how bad they were at 21 or 22. They are young enough to put together a career that could absolutely put them in the hobby pantheon.

I don't think Lawler will be that guy, but saying no matter what he does he's already hobby irrelevant is just stupid.[/QUOTE]

What are the chances Lawlar actually puts up those gaudy numbers, even since the day he was drafted?

Come on, you’ve been in this game too long to think that way.

19 at bats

lmao

[QUOTE=boxbuster7;19919675]19 at bats

lmao[/QUOTE]

50 career at bats.

4 hits total.

0 rbi.

Zero.

$500 raw chrome auto at peak.

It’s over, boxy.

Over.

Sincerely,

Spencer Torkelman

Reid Brignac 2.0

People saying his hobby status is dead are all holding on to Bichette, Vlad, Robert, etc.
i remember for about 5-6 years people kept saying Correa was still young enough to maintain the hype in the hobby. Of course the scandal with Houston was his death nail, but people held out hope he’d fulfill the hobby prophecy bestowed on him.

NO ONE saw Judge coming at 26 and doing what he has done. No one. This site particular writes off any prospect or rookie debuting post 25 as hobby lepers. It’s ludicrous. I agree with another post that said if Lawlar comes back even at 24 and is a stud, he will definitely create hobby frenzy.

Many “big” hobby names have peaks and valleys the past decade. People now are so easy to let go of Bobby Witt Jr. yet hype for Caglione is off the charts and the kid hasn’t seen MLB pitchers yet.
There are lots of minor league HOFers.


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will never forget

[QUOTE=hermanotarjeta;19919674]What are the chances Lawlar actually puts up those gaudy numbers, even since the day he was drafted?



Come on, you’ve been in this game too long to think that way.[/QUOTE]Completely irrelevant to my point. But thanks for trying.

If the chance is greater than 0.00%, then I am right.

My comment was specifically directed at those who said it's too late to become a superstar no matter what he does.

What were the chances Aaron Judge would do it when he was 22?

Like I said (if you had bothered to read), I don't think Lawler is that guy. But to say no matter what he does he will be hobby irrelevant is stupid.

[QUOTE=jhssketchcards;19919691]People saying his hobby status is dead are all holding on to Bichette, Vlad, Robert, etc.
i remember for about 5-6 years people kept saying Correa was still young enough to maintain the hype in the hobby. Of course the scandal with Houston was his death nail, but people held out hope he’d fulfill the hobby prophecy bestowed on him.

NO ONE saw Judge coming at 26 and doing what he has done. No one. This site particular writes off any prospect or rookie debuting post 25 as hobby lepers. It’s ludicrous. I agree with another post that said if Lawlar comes back even at 24 and is a stud, he will definitely create hobby frenzy.

Many “big” hobby names have peaks and valleys the past decade. People now are so easy to let go of Bobby Witt Jr. yet hype for Caglione is off the charts and the kid hasn’t seen MLB pitchers yet.
There are lots of minor league HOFers.


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The big difference between the performance of judge and Lawlar cards is that judge started out as a $10 auto and Lawlar was a $400 auto.

Being hobby dead essentially means never seeing your initial hyped peak prices again.

Sure, Lawlar could be serviceable. Even sort of good, but never $400 chrome auto good again, ever.

That’s what I mean by hobby dead.