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fulltritty 07-28-2025 11:59 AM

Guardians reliever Emmanuel Clase placed on paid leave amid MLB's sports betting inve
 
Guardians reliever Emmanuel Clase placed on paid leave amid MLB's sports betting investigation

[URL="https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/guardians-reliever-emmanuel-clase-placed-on-paid-leave-amid-mlbs-sports-betting-investigation/"]https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/guardians-reliever-emmanuel-clase-placed-on-paid-leave-amid-mlbs-sports-betting-investigation/[/URL]

Bosoxfan5990 07-28-2025 12:00 PM

These guys are idiots.

boxbuster7 07-28-2025 12:22 PM

wow...out for a month

NYRE2PECT 07-28-2025 12:25 PM

Won't be the last...it's too prevalent now.

Bosoxfan5990 07-28-2025 12:29 PM

[QUOTE=NYRE2PECT;19974010]Won't be the last...it's too prevalent now.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure it's any different than it was before.

The difference is they're able to track trends and data with legalized betting, compared to having to do undercover stings with your local bookie...

NYBBFAN 07-28-2025 12:32 PM

RIP my fantasy team.

Soxrule111 07-28-2025 12:33 PM

Not to defend him as I didnt read the information.

I do feel bad that they can be suspended for betting on other sports if they use the apps at the team location. I dont think they should be suspended in those instances, but I also have no problem with a clear hard line.

JRX 07-28-2025 12:41 PM

[QUOTE=Bosoxfan5990;19974021]I'm not sure it's any different than it was before.

The difference is they're able to track trends and data with legalized betting, compared to having to do undercover stings with your local bookie...[/QUOTE]

Actually it is because now there's instant betting / prop bets on next pitches. Previously there was a several hour delay between bet and result. Nobody was taking action that so and so would throw certain pitches.

Archangel1775 07-28-2025 12:43 PM

The spotlight is going to be on all these dumb prop bets. Could you imagine an organized gambling ring take advantage of this? There is so much they can conspire to do to shift Division races or series if the MLB is just arbitrarily suspending players based on prop bets.They can get into players inner circles(friends or family members) by slyly recruiting them. Yes, that's some Hollywood sh*t but they got some smart people.

awz50 07-28-2025 12:51 PM

Silly.

JRX 07-28-2025 12:54 PM

[QUOTE=Archangel1775;19974038]The spotlight is going to be on all these dumb prop bets. Could you imagine an organized gambling ring take advantage of this? There is so much they can conspire to do to shift Division races or series if the MLB is just arbitrarily suspending players based on prop bets.They can get into players inner circles(friends or family members) by slyly recruiting them. Yes, that's some Hollywood sh*t but they got some smart people.[/QUOTE]

The legal ones already take advantage of them. They have a huge vig on prop aka sucker bets.

seanbros55 07-28-2025 12:58 PM

I bet this was from 2023 when I drafted him in the fourth round and he SUCKED to start the season, and I ended up dropping him in June and then he was NASTY for the rest of the year.

fulltritty 07-28-2025 01:34 PM

More information on ESPN's article. The Guardians don't expect anyone else to be impacted. :D

[URL="https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45843304/sources-guardians-emmanuel-clase-leave-gambling-probe"]https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45843304/sources-guardians-emmanuel-clase-leave-gambling-probe[/URL]

mossoholic 07-28-2025 01:36 PM

[QUOTE=Archangel1775;19974038][B]The spotlight is going to be on all these dumb prop bets.[/B] Could you imagine an organized gambling ring take advantage of this? There is so much they can conspire to do to shift Division races or series if the MLB is just arbitrarily suspending players based on prop bets.They can get into players inner circles(friends or family members) by slyly recruiting them. Yes, that's some Hollywood sh*t but they got some smart people.[/QUOTE]

All these dumb prop bets used to have a very low limits. Why legalized books wouldn't have low limits in place for this stuff makes no sense. It should basically be irrelevant if it's fixed or not when the most you can win is a few hundred bucks. Anything that you could get inside info on, wrestling, award shows, whats happening in a movie or tv show, bizarre props, props on non elite players, etc. Most of those were capped at $50-$100. It's been so long but when they used to allow you to bet in football what the next play would be run or pass again something with a very low limit. Even when I wanted to bet Kobe's points in his last game I don't think you could bet anything more than a few hundred bucks. Why these books would be dumb enough to take thousands of dollars of wagers from one person on a next pitch or some type of pitcher prop is just stupid.

SaveMeTheGum 07-28-2025 02:20 PM

Am I the only one that doesn't care if gamblers get cheated?

OhioLawyerF5 07-28-2025 02:24 PM

[QUOTE=SaveMeTheGum;19974138]Am I the only one that doesn't care if gamblers get cheated?[/QUOTE]

I don't think the concern is that gamblers get cheated. It's that players are fixing the outcomes of games.

JRX 07-28-2025 02:48 PM

The leagues are actively promoting in game wagering, what did they think would happen.

mfw13 07-28-2025 03:01 PM

[QUOTE=Soxrule111;19974026]Not to defend him as I didnt read the information.

I do feel bad that they can be suspended for betting on other sports if they use the apps at the team location. I dont think they should be suspended in those instances, but I also have no problem with a clear hard line.[/QUOTE]

The problem is that ANY type of gambling debt make you vulnerable.....doesn't make a difference what sport the debt is from.

If player A loses 100K betting on the NFL, and his bookie says that he will clear the debt if the player hits the batter with the first pitch he throws or if he attempts to bunt on the first pitch he sees as a hitter, then the player has negatively impacted the integrity of the game.

auctionjmm 07-28-2025 03:20 PM

[QUOTE=JRX;19974167]The leagues are actively promoting in game wagering, what did they think would happen.[/QUOTE]

Certainly not that a 20 million dollar closer would need to bet in-game to help himself or a friend.

asujbl 07-28-2025 03:22 PM

I don’t believe it. He doesn’t even play for the Browns

OhioLawyerF5 07-28-2025 03:23 PM

[QUOTE=auctionjmm;19974198]Certainly not that a 20 million dollar closer would need to bet in-game to help himself or a friend.[/QUOTE]People don't only do bad things if they are poor or need money.

JRX 07-28-2025 03:24 PM

[QUOTE=auctionjmm;19974198]Certainly not that a 20 million dollar closer would need to bet in-game to help himself or a friend.[/QUOTE]

He's not making 20M

mrmojorisin71 07-28-2025 03:25 PM

Of course this is how the Yankees got to the WS FINALLY. Clase serving em up ��������

Promethius88 07-28-2025 03:27 PM

What if pro athletes are participating in card breaks? Is that considered gambling in the eyes of leagues yet?

auctionjmm 07-28-2025 03:34 PM

[QUOTE=JRX;19974205]He's not making 20M[/QUOTE]

Emmanuel Clase signed a five-year, $20,000,000 contract with the Cleveland Guardians on April 2, 2022, which included a $2,000,000 signing bonus.

Not that it even matters. They promote alcohol at games too but we aren't worried about closers showing up drunk in the 9th inning. It's such a poor excuse to use.


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