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aro13 · 01-15-2016, 02:00 PM

The year Jordan elected to play baseball the Bulls won 55 games with Pippen being their best player. The year before with Jordan they won 57. Pippen was a great player with or without Michael.

I think Havlicek and most other players from the past are highly under-rated today in comparison to modern players. Other then Dr. J, who I think is not close to being as good as Elgin Baylor. I respect Dr. J's game and he is a legend but he could not shoot outside of 15 to 17 feet and his defense was not outstanding. He was not a big time rebounder or passer.

As for LeBron versus Bird, it is amazing how so many people are quick to dismiss Bird today.

Other then driving to the basket (if you allow travelling each time) playing man-to-man defense, and being more athletic what is LeBron better at then Bird? Bird is a better shooter, a significantly better free throw shooter, better in the post, a better passer, and a better rebounder. Bird is a much better team defender (because he actually knows the fundamentals of the game), and he makes his teammates better, more so then probably any player to take the floor in the history of the game other then Magic Johnson and Bill Russell.

01-15-2016, 02:00 PM	#95
aro13 Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 972	Small Forwards The year Jordan elected to play baseball the Bulls won 55 games with Pippen being their best player. The year before with Jordan they won 57. Pippen was a great player with or without Michael. I think Havlicek and most other players from the past are highly under-rated today in comparison to modern players. Other then Dr. J, who I think is not close to being as good as Elgin Baylor. I respect Dr. J's game and he is a legend but he could not shoot outside of 15 to 17 feet and his defense was not outstanding. He was not a big time rebounder or passer. As for LeBron versus Bird, it is amazing how so many people are quick to dismiss Bird today. Other then driving to the basket (if you allow travelling each time) playing man-to-man defense, and being more athletic what is LeBron better at then Bird? Bird is a better shooter, a significantly better free throw shooter, better in the post, a better passer, and a better rebounder. Bird is a much better team defender (because he actually knows the fundamentals of the game), and he makes his teammates better, more so then probably any player to take the floor in the history of the game other then Magic Johnson and Bill Russell.