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Originally Posted by rcmb3220
Straw men everywhere!
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This thread is fantastic! I'm certainly enjoying reading the debate (what are we debating again?).
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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans
So any leadoff hitter that gets hit in the 1st inning should result in an automatic pitcher ejection? A protected class of players? (Like QB's)
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No, but...
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Originally Posted by jswest18
No and you chose to ignore my entire argument for the sake of this statement which was not at all what I was implying. You're a smart guy. You know that's not what I was saying. I was being specific to this scenario.
The climate has changed in MLB and their are more rules policing intentional hits and retaliation. Twenty-five years ago, an NL pitcher hits Acuna in this exact same scenario, he knows he's going to get thrown at his next at bat. The other team knows they will because there were no pre-pitch warnings and no automatic ejections for retaliation and no future suspensions handed down for the pitcher. You're argument that the game would take care of itself doesn't hold true as much any longer and certainly not in this situation.
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"Urena is the fourth starting pitcher in the live-ball era to hit the only batter he faced in a game, according to ESPN Stats & Information data. (Bob Shaw in 1965, Scott Elarton in 2001 and John Lackey in 2009 were the first three.) All four were ejected from the game." from
ABC News release So a pitcher that beans the first batter faced has always been ejected. For at least 53 years.
I still want an explanation as to why the Braves manager was ejected before Urena.